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Reply #75: You sound as if you are part of some conspiracy, as if you have inside information. Well, [View All]

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75. You sound as if you are part of some conspiracy, as if you have inside information. Well,
Edited on Mon Feb-18-08 06:49 AM by John Q. Citizen
what is it?

Is Hill in a conspiracy with the Repos and losing 10 states in a row as well as the the popular vote on purpose to set Obama up for a giant November fall and 40 more years in the wilderness for the Democratic Party and especially the left in the Democratic Party and beyond?

Or do you figure george isn't going anywhere and will do to some major national emergency declaration?

Or are you just super afraid of the awful, horrible, mean rotten, Norquist? And his rotting friends?

See us Obama voters? We're not afraid of Norquist. Every time he talks, we don't tremble. We don't stop contesting states, counties, cities, towns, neighborhoods, streets or people because we gave up.

That's a lesson Clinton never learned, apparently, don't cede power to the opposition. Five elections and 3 primaries of the 17 state strategy. Ceding turf is not a winner. Just as she never learned how to move the grass roots. She's great as far as dealing with corporate movers and shakers, corporate consultants, and corporate lobbyists. That's been her whole life.

But we have a candidate who actually worked in the grass roots and understands the grass roots and is actually able to move the grass roots. Plus he can talk to any and every CEO that Hill can.

It scares the fuck out of people like Norquist, because they were supposed to do that with the fundies, the Dems weren't supposed to do that; But they got McCain and the fundies dislike McCain almost as much as they dislike Hill, and some of the fundies even like Obama anyway.

They can shoot Obama, but other than that he's gonna kick their ass. Just like he's kicking old ready on day 1's, ass. She's ready on day one to have her ass kicked by a guy who has a facility available to him that she just doesn't have available to her. And Obama has enough sense to know not to cede power to the opposition by just walking away and turning your back on vast areas of people, policy, and communication.

And once Obama has put Hill out of her misery come March, then he will turn his attention to McCain, and once again, quietly, methodically, and undeniably he will take him apart.

I think Norquist is more afraid of Obama than Obama is afraid of Norquist. That's what the threats and bluster is about. And I think Norquist has very good reason to be afraid of Obama.
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   by the time dems and O know what hit them, it will be too late. nt  VotesForWomen   Feb-18-08 03:44 AM   #56 
   You sound as if you are part of some conspiracy, as if you have inside information. Well,  John Q. Citizen   Feb-18-08 06:36 AM   #75 
   Good luck with all that. n/t  girl gone mad   Feb-18-08 03:59 AM   #58 
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   The RW will have gotten what it wants with Obama as the Dem candidate: President McCain.  CyberPieHole   Feb-18-08 04:00 AM   #60 
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         It's not a protest vote. It will be a protest non~vote...  CyberPieHole   Feb-18-08 04:44 PM   #81 
   This guy is in Chile, he can't vote in our election anyway so who cares.  angie_love   Feb-18-08 05:49 AM   #72 
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   obama is a lousy debater  amborin   Feb-18-08 06:25 AM   #74 
   LMAO....McCain is a horrible debater.  BrentTaylor   Feb-18-08 04:44 PM   #82 
   Perspective.  jefferson_dem   Feb-18-08 06:39 AM   #76 
   Silly.  Occam Bandage   Feb-18-08 04:48 PM   #84 
 

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