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I have told about this before but I will tell it again. I am the political chair for 2 different DFA groups here. One of the groups trains grassroots campaign workers. The other groups sponsors events. Claire McCaskill's staff told one of my groups that she would not have won this city in her 2006 election without the work and support of our group members. We are not the most powerful political group in town, but we are a player. About a year ago, we were contacted by the local reps from the Obama campaign. They have been coming to our monthly meetings ever since. A few months after the Obama people contacted us, the Edwards group contacted us. Then Kucinich. And Dodd. And Richardson. By this past September, all of those campaigns had approached both of my groups and regularly send reps to our meetings and events.
I am also active in my local county and congressional district Democratic party groups. All of the above mentioned campaigns have come to at least one (usually more) of our meetings and handed out literature and tried to sell us on their candidate.
EXCEPT HILLARY.
We have a Kennedy dinner here every November. This year, all of the campaigns were there with literature and they were each given a few minutes to speak.
HILLARY'S CAMPAIGN WAS A NO SHOW.
I can sort of understand Hillary's campaign avoiding DFA. It is a very progressive organization and Hillary seems to be appealing to the moderate and conservative wing of the party. But it makes ZERO sense that her campaign would ignore the Democratic party here.
Hillary finally opened an office here. I called and asked if they wanted to come to our DFA meeting and bring literature and maybe speak for a few minutes. Their response stunned me. I have been doing this for years now and it was the first time a campaign wasn't thrilled to hear a political group wanted more information and wanted them to come speak to our members. Hillary's campaign wanted me to sign up and send volunteers to THEM. They are just too busy to come talk to US. I said but you can sign up as many volunteers as you can get at our meetings, and network with the most active grassroots activists in the area. But no, they couldn't trouble themselves to come meet with us. The person I talked to didn't even ask for my name or contact info, which spoke volumes about their interest in me or my groups.
Bill Clinton was here a few weeks ago. I went to hear him speak and they asked for my name and phone number at the door. The next day I got a phone call from a Hillary campaign worker asking me for a donation or to volunteer. I said thanks for the call but I am supporting John Edwards. The campaign worker asked why did I go to a Hillary campaign event and give my name and number if I didn't support Hillary. I explained I went to hear Bill Clinton speak and they asked for my info at the door. And the worker said "BUT IT WAS A HILLARY CAMPAIGN EVENT!" I said I know but I am supporting Edwards at this time. And the worker HUNG UP ON ME.
I see this same arrogant attitude in many of Hillary's supporters here. DUers I used to like and respect have turned into Hillary activists who are demanding my loyalty because . . . well I guess because she is HILLARY.
A few days after Kucinich dropped out, I was contacted by both Edwards and Obama's people here asking for my support. Hillary didn't call me. The day after Edwards dropped out, the Obama campaign called me and not only asked me to volunteer but asked me to lend my talents and experience to the local campaign. No I am not that important but it sure meant a lot to me that they thought I could actually contribute something to the group.
Hillary has yet to call since the campaign worker hung up on me. Well I did get a robo call that went out to all of the members of my union. But no personal contact.
I know this is only one metropolitan area and DU is only one of many discussion boards. But more and more I sense this arrogant 'you are with us or you are against us' attitude from the Hillary camp that is more reflective of Republican party politics than Democratic groups and candidates. It certainly is not very progressive.
I see far more 'do as we say, not what you think is right' coming from the Hillary campaign. There is an arrogance in her campaign which seems to grow as she drops in the polls and the delegate count. Instead of focusing on issues and Hillary's stance, and giving us a REASON to support her, we are criticized for not swallowing her as our next great savior.
So rather than being persuaded to worship at the altar of Obama, I can honestly say his campaign EARNED my support. Since there is very little difference in the platforms of our two candidates, I honestly could have been persuaded to go either way when Edwards dropped out, especially when Hillary changed her rhetoric about the war. No I have never been a big fan of Hillary but I could have been won over. If they had tried. My best friend is a Hillary supporter as are most of my co-workers. So that's how I came to be an Obama supporter. No magic, no cultish attitude, no promises. Just a few phone calls asking for my help and treating me like I mattered. If Hillary tried that, she might not see her numbers dropping at this time.
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| -Why I am an Obama supporter now |
proud2Blib |
Feb-17-08 07:31 PM |
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Cool. But I didn't matter to Obama, that's why I can't support him. |
Bluebear |
Feb-17-08 07:34 PM |
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I understand perfectly why you feel as you do |
proud2Blib |
Feb-17-08 07:38 PM |
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Everyone but Obama |
Bluenorthwest |
Feb-18-08 08:08 AM |
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So you're saying that it's ok for a candidate to treat other people badly? |
yardwork |
Feb-18-08 10:16 AM |
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"With the choice between Hillary and Barack, a lot of us are going to have to compromise somewhat... |
delt664 |
Feb-18-08 10:33 AM |
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No I understand why he made the choice that he did |
proud2Blib |
Feb-18-08 10:56 AM |
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So some human rights are more important than others? |
yardwork |
Feb-18-08 11:00 AM |
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So I should choose gay rights over the war? |
proud2Blib |
Feb-18-08 11:22 AM |
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Obama and Hillary have exactly the same voting record on the war. |
yardwork |
Feb-18-08 11:30 AM |
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And which one has closer ties to the military industrial complex? |
proud2Blib |
Feb-18-08 11:36 AM |
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I'm disappointed in both of them. I supported Kucinich, then Biden, then Edwards. |
yardwork |
Feb-18-08 12:51 PM |
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This is how the DNC acted before Dr. Dean took over....Terry McAuliffe's |
loudsue |
Feb-18-08 01:25 PM |
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it saddens me to read these posts. |
mopinko |
Feb-17-08 07:49 PM |
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If it does not represent Obama's feelings, he has to do but one thing: |
Bluebear |
Feb-17-08 09:45 PM |
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he has spoken out, and you know it. |
mopinko |
Feb-17-08 11:33 PM |
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Obama's pretty press release cannot be reconciled with the ugly actions of his campaign. |
Bluebear |
Feb-18-08 06:11 AM |
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you do not understand obama. acceptance, which you claim |
mopinko |
Feb-18-08 11:02 AM |
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Here we go again. He didn't "work with" someone who disagreed with him. |
Bluebear |
Feb-18-08 06:37 PM |
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well, i know i won't convince you |
mopinko |
Feb-18-08 09:59 PM |
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ok, i said i would drop it, but i want to say one more thing. |
mopinko |
Feb-18-08 10:52 PM |
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If he said that |
Bluenorthwest |
Feb-18-08 08:13 AM |
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Are you Obama? If not, how do you know it doesn't represent his feelings? |
yardwork |
Feb-18-08 10:19 AM |
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you apparently do not know his record. |
mopinko |
Feb-18-08 10:55 AM |
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What was the outcome of Obama's legislation? |
yardwork |
Feb-18-08 10:59 AM |
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Condescending |
democrat_nanny |
Feb-18-08 07:52 PM |
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i'm not being condescending. i am trying to be as respectful |
mopinko |
Feb-18-08 10:04 PM |
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Still a problem for me but I still support Obama... |
Baby Snooks |
Feb-18-08 01:25 AM |
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Bluebear |
yourguide |
Feb-18-08 07:46 AM |
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Your analogy does not work. |
Jamastiene |
Feb-18-08 07:53 AM |
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My point is |
yourguide |
Feb-18-08 08:02 AM |
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Very telling post. Thanks, proud2Blib. |
Oregonian |
Feb-17-08 07:35 PM |
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It's really sad |
proud2Blib |
Feb-17-08 07:40 PM |
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This is what you get with Entitlement candidates. |
ErnestoG |
Feb-17-08 07:53 PM |
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from what I've read and saw on the TV news shows this am, your experience is not surprising. |
Bread and Circus |
Feb-17-08 07:45 PM |
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You'd think she knew enough about campaigning than to depend on bad advice |
proud2Blib |
Feb-17-08 07:50 PM |
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Thanks for that full story |
WesDem |
Feb-17-08 07:46 PM |
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That's Great News! |
zidzi |
Feb-17-08 07:49 PM |
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I don't think our state DFA has endorsed anyone yet |
proud2Blib |
Feb-17-08 07:51 PM |
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her rep at our party endorsement meeting was like |
mopinko |
Feb-17-08 07:47 PM |
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Very well written, supportive statement |
zidzi |
Feb-17-08 07:48 PM |
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That's about the most unusual Obama graphic I have seen |
proud2Blib |
Feb-17-08 07:52 PM |
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It goes well with the sig |
zidzi |
Feb-17-08 08:17 PM |
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Sounds like you're blaming Hillary for things that she herself would be pissed to know about. |
Rageneau |
Feb-17-08 07:50 PM |
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I don't know her but I would like to think she would be concerned |
proud2Blib |
Feb-17-08 07:54 PM |
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She made the exact same mistake in 1993 with health care. She kicked out the grass roots |
John Q. Citizen |
Feb-17-08 08:12 PM |
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I have noticed, right here at DU, that Hillary's campaign seems to attract arrogant people |
earthlover |
Feb-17-08 08:17 PM |
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I have been surprised by some of the DUers who are supporting her |
proud2Blib |
Feb-17-08 08:57 PM |
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It's Not Just At DU |
NikolaC |
Feb-18-08 10:27 AM |
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Call me arrogant |
Demo5 |
Feb-18-08 11:56 AM |
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Clinton is running a top-down campaign. |
Tatiana |
Feb-17-08 07:51 PM |
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Yes it is wrong to ignore the grassroots |
proud2Blib |
Feb-17-08 08:03 PM |
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Good -- you made this into its own thread! K&R nt |
Yael |
Feb-17-08 07:57 PM |
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Great post, proud, and thank you for sharing! It's too bad you were |
babylonsister |
Feb-17-08 08:00 PM |
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And I am sure we will jump up and work for Hillary if she gets the nomination |
proud2Blib |
Feb-17-08 08:06 PM |
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I voted Obama as well (In kcmo) |
GoPsUx |
Feb-17-08 08:04 PM |
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What a gorgeous picture! nt |
babylonsister |
Feb-17-08 08:07 PM |
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You should get involved with DFA! |
proud2Blib |
Feb-17-08 08:07 PM |
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I know ..I know |
GoPsUx |
Feb-17-08 08:18 PM |
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DFHA is having an event next Sat |
proud2Blib |
Feb-17-08 08:41 PM |
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Let me ask a question of you |
DaDooRonRon |
Feb-17-08 08:11 PM |
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Both are now saying they will begin to bring our troops home as soon as they are in office |
proud2Blib |
Feb-17-08 08:47 PM |
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"Begin" |
DaDooRonRon |
Feb-17-08 10:09 PM |
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So who are you going to support? |
proud2Blib |
Feb-17-08 10:25 PM |
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To answer the first part |
DaDooRonRon |
Feb-18-08 09:35 AM |
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No the movement isn't dead! |
proud2Blib |
Feb-18-08 10:53 AM |
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Really? |
DaDooRonRon |
Feb-18-08 11:05 AM |
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The ones who get elected are the ones who have the power to end the war |
proud2Blib |
Feb-18-08 11:20 AM |
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But they won't use it!!!! |
DaDooRonRon |
Feb-18-08 11:36 AM |
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Walking away from it won't change anything |
proud2Blib |
Feb-18-08 12:14 PM |
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I see your point |
DaDooRonRon |
Feb-18-08 01:05 PM |
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Nice rant, but I don't see how it applies to the reality of the election in November. |
krkaufman |
Feb-18-08 12:08 AM |
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I have a choice between many candidates |
DaDooRonRon |
Feb-18-08 09:21 AM |
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You *may* vote for Elmer Fudd. |
krkaufman |
Feb-18-08 09:49 AM |
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And who would have thought a pro wrestler would be governor? |
DaDooRonRon |
Feb-18-08 10:56 AM |
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Then you're either misinterpreting what I said, or intentionally obfuscating. |
krkaufman |
Feb-18-08 12:52 PM |
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The election process offers numerous choices |
DaDooRonRon |
Feb-18-08 01:04 PM |
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"Validity" has nothing to do with it. Pragmatism does. |
krkaufman |
Feb-18-08 01:12 PM |
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And you realize by making this "pragmatic" choice you ensure that |
DaDooRonRon |
Feb-18-08 07:57 PM |
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Can't you answer a simple question...? |
krkaufman |
Feb-19-08 11:05 PM |
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This may at least partially answer your very good question. |
John Q. Citizen |
Feb-18-08 01:45 AM |
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Ah, I like David a lot |
DaDooRonRon |
Feb-18-08 10:46 AM |
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Dean part of the mainstream???? |
dansolo |
Feb-18-08 08:11 PM |
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As you may know, I'm also supporting Obama over Hillary. |
John Q. Citizen |
Feb-17-08 08:25 PM |
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Here! Here! |
proud2Blib |
Feb-17-08 08:49 PM |
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I also think your piece (OP) is extremely worthy of that use n/t |
I Vote In Pittsburgh |
Feb-17-08 09:41 PM |
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K&R |
WolverineDG |
Feb-17-08 08:32 PM |
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This isn't entirely true |
eridani |
Feb-17-08 08:32 PM |
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I am glad to hear that about your local campaign |
proud2Blib |
Feb-17-08 08:52 PM |
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I have just became an Obama supporter also. |
Fox Mulder |
Feb-17-08 08:44 PM |
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I'm just happy you made your decision. |
David Zephyr |
Feb-17-08 08:47 PM |
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It is like 68, that's very true |
proud2Blib |
Feb-17-08 08:53 PM |
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Good POINT..It will be |
zidzi |
Feb-17-08 08:54 PM |
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Absolutely inspiring, Proud2b.. so happy to hear from you ! And glad to |
K Gardner |
Feb-17-08 08:57 PM |
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What a wonderful post, proud! |
protect our future |
Feb-17-08 09:16 PM |
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Of course I will be there |
proud2Blib |
Feb-18-08 12:10 AM |
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You rock, proud! n/t |
protect our future |
Feb-18-08 06:36 PM |
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Thanks for a thoughtful and informative post. |
TexasObserver |
Feb-17-08 09:34 PM |
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K & R |
ellisonz |
Feb-17-08 09:35 PM |
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Wow !!! - Excellent Post !!! - K & R !!! |
WillyT |
Feb-17-08 09:40 PM |
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Excellent post AND thread. K&R n/t |
Laurab |
Feb-17-08 11:05 PM |
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We've had 8 years of arrogance and hubris... |
AZBlue |
Feb-17-08 11:13 PM |
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Correction - 16 years |
dansolo |
Feb-18-08 08:13 PM |
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Hey, I'm proud to be liberal, too! Glad to hear you're going to support Obama. |
Major Hogwash |
Feb-17-08 11:43 PM |
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I'm voting for Obama cuz ... |
demonsweat |
Feb-18-08 12:10 AM |
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he such an inspiration! |
demonsweat |
Feb-18-08 12:19 AM |
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You such a troll! |
Redstone |
Feb-18-08 12:59 AM |
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LOL |
proud2Blib |
Feb-18-08 05:00 PM |
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Hillary spent $5 million on one staffer. Obama spent $20 million on thousands. |
joshcryer |
Feb-18-08 01:44 AM |
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Poor judgment IS an issue. (nt) |
woolldog |
Feb-18-08 03:40 AM |
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And there is very little difference between them on most issues |
proud2Blib |
Feb-18-08 04:51 PM |
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The reason you didn't get a call is that it isn't |
grantcart |
Feb-18-08 01:49 AM |
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Welcome to team Obama. We'll get you some coffee anything else we can do for you just ask. = ) |
cooolandrew |
Feb-18-08 02:11 AM |
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thank you, proud2Blib |
sonias |
Feb-18-08 02:12 AM |
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I saw a post somewhere that pointed out the Poll threads |
intaglio |
Feb-18-08 02:48 AM |
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What an honor |
proud2Blib |
Feb-18-08 04:55 PM |
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Our local Democratic organization was shunned by both |
liberal N proud |
Feb-18-08 06:04 AM |
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Are you in a March 4th state? |
alteredstate |
Feb-18-08 06:19 AM |
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Ohio |
liberal N proud |
Feb-18-08 06:23 AM |
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They probably don't have any available staff members to send to your forum. |
alteredstate |
Feb-18-08 06:46 AM |
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One line of yours speaks volumes |
DeeDeeNY |
Feb-18-08 07:20 AM |
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I really get the sense that the Clinton's are out of touch with the party base |
Geek_Girl |
Feb-18-08 09:09 AM |
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this isn't uncommon |
Ahmed |
Feb-18-08 09:23 AM |
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Who is least like Bush?? |
Maineman |
Feb-18-08 11:44 AM |
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Obama or third party |
greengestalt |
Feb-18-08 12:40 PM |
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Oh Please ROFLMAO!!!!!!!!!! |
OPERATIONMINDCRIME |
Feb-18-08 12:41 PM |
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I couldn't have until she changed her stance on withdrawl from Iraq |
proud2Blib |
Feb-18-08 04:49 PM |
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K&r. |
Kurovski |
Feb-18-08 01:14 PM |
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I had to wade through the literature from the Obama campaign... |
puebloknot |
Feb-18-08 03:24 PM |
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I have no idea how widespread this phenomenon is... |
Orsino |
Feb-18-08 04:23 PM |
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So you're basing your choice for President on... |
democrat_nanny |
Feb-18-08 05:44 PM |
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No, not me, |
proud2Blib |
Feb-18-08 06:22 PM |
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Smarmy, smarmy, smarmy... |
democrat_nanny |
Feb-18-08 07:40 PM |
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The real republican world? |
proud2Blib |
Feb-18-08 07:51 PM |
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Life long Democrat |
democrat_nanny |
Feb-18-08 07:56 PM |
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And, it looks like I did know what DFA is... |
democrat_nanny |
Feb-18-08 07:46 PM |
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You've been here 10 days |
proud2Blib |
Feb-18-08 07:55 PM |
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No doubt in my mind there are Dean supporters here... |
democrat_nanny |
Feb-18-08 08:02 PM |
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You started this exchange by insulting ME |
proud2Blib |
Feb-18-08 08:04 PM |
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I agree. Last week, there was a post from an Iowa resident regarding why Obama |
muntrv |
Feb-18-08 06:34 PM |
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What should be more important in making a choice? |
poomie123 |
Feb-18-08 08:25 PM |
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Hope it works out for you. |
Horse with no Name |
Feb-19-08 11:07 PM |
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Was wondering if you saw this little nugget |
Horse with no Name |
Feb-20-08 05:45 PM |
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. |
CorpGovActivist |
Feb-21-08 02:19 AM |
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Your post really demonsrates the efiicacy of |
mythyc |
Feb-21-08 02:57 AM |
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