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Sun Feb-17-08 12:11 PM
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| 10. they could hold a caucus. That they won't, speaks volumes. |
| -Not even Solomon could figure out a solution to this FL - MI dilemma. |
kentuck |
Feb-17-08 12:01 PM |
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Either they re-vote or nothing. |
yourout |
Feb-17-08 12:04 PM |
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That is putting yourself in a box... |
kentuck |
Feb-17-08 12:06 PM |
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Absolutely |
HockeyMom |
Feb-17-08 12:21 PM |
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If Hillary gets the nomination because of FL delegates... |
madfloridian |
Feb-17-08 12:05 PM |
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Well, none of the candidates campaigned in FL... |
kentuck |
Feb-17-08 12:08 PM |
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True... But A Whole Lot Of Democrats... |
WillyT |
Feb-17-08 12:17 PM |
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Are you saying..? |
kentuck |
Feb-17-08 12:19 PM |
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Apparently... They Hunt !!! |
WillyT |
Feb-17-08 12:34 PM |
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Of course we should ignore that fact. She was ok with the rules... |
madfloridian |
Feb-17-08 12:19 PM |
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But it's not just about Hillary.. |
kentuck |
Feb-17-08 12:22 PM |
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You are ignoring the fact that FL and MI knew the consequences of their decision |
earthlover |
Feb-17-08 12:19 PM |
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But Florida's decision was made by their Republican legislature... |
kentuck |
Feb-17-08 12:23 PM |
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Kentuck, I have respected you a lot. But that is just not true. |
madfloridian |
Feb-17-08 12:25 PM |
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Yes, the vast majority of Democrats agreed with the Repubs... |
kentuck |
Feb-17-08 12:27 PM |
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No, I just posted a pesky fact for you.....it was introduced by a Democrat. |
madfloridian |
Feb-17-08 12:35 PM |
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Thanks for the clarification... |
kentuck |
Feb-17-08 12:37 PM |
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They lied about the party and its chairman. All the way. They openly defied.. |
madfloridian |
Feb-17-08 12:39 PM |
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Open defiance of the "rules"? |
kentuck |
Feb-17-08 12:40 PM |
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Yes, choosing a nominee with one state having the power... |
madfloridian |
Feb-17-08 12:46 PM |
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You mean like IA and NH?? |
kentuck |
Feb-17-08 12:48 PM |
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You are just getting silly now and ignoring pesky facts. |
madfloridian |
Feb-17-08 01:01 PM |
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LOL !!! - Yes !!! |
WillyT |
Feb-17-08 01:14 PM |
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I would never try to "bait you", madfloridian... |
kentuck |
Feb-17-08 01:21 PM |
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Ring (D-FL): “I hear that a lot, that I was duped by the Republicans. No one duped me.” |
Emit |
Feb-17-08 12:28 PM |
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So, how does that change the equation? |
kentuck |
Feb-17-08 12:30 PM |
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They broke the rules after repeated warnings by Dean and the DNC |
madfloridian |
Feb-17-08 12:37 PM |
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"If the delegates count and Hillary is the nominee, she will not be legit." |
kentuck |
Feb-17-08 12:39 PM |
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There are technically NO delegates right now from Florida. |
madfloridian |
Feb-17-08 01:58 PM |
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I would think most courts would rule in favor of the voters... |
kentuck |
Feb-17-08 02:11 PM |
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No, they have already ruled that parties have an absolute right to determine who their nominee is |
stevenleser |
Feb-17-08 02:38 PM |
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Do you have a link or article about that? |
kentuck |
Feb-17-08 02:45 PM |
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No, that is not true. Here is the ruling from the Supreme Court. |
madfloridian |
Feb-17-08 04:37 PM |
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Thanks....so there is a precedent. |
kentuck |
Feb-17-08 05:01 PM |
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Actually Obama ran TV ads... said he couldn't pull them.. but they have now been pulled in my state |
cd3dem |
Feb-17-08 12:52 PM |
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He checked with t he Dem authorities |
tabatha |
Feb-17-08 01:03 PM |
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he said he was unable to pull them... but he can do it in my state after the fact... |
cd3dem |
Feb-17-08 01:51 PM |
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"The Dem authorities"? |
MonkeyFunk |
Feb-17-08 02:32 PM |
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Hillary only got a few delegates more than half, so |
Ravy |
Feb-17-08 12:11 PM |
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I think she won by about 400,000 votes?? |
kentuck |
Feb-17-08 12:15 PM |
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Right, but I think she only got 108 out of 210 delegates. |
Ravy |
Feb-17-08 12:23 PM |
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I thought she got more... |
kentuck |
Feb-17-08 12:24 PM |
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I'll bet Obama is hoping to win so big it won't matter. |
AtomicKitten |
Feb-17-08 12:07 PM |
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That is the plan. |
kentuck |
Feb-17-08 12:09 PM |
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The gap has been closed in TX. |
tekisui |
Feb-17-08 12:11 PM |
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a decisive win would take all the air out of the ugly ClintonCo has tee'd up |
AtomicKitten |
Feb-17-08 12:14 PM |
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A new Primary cannot happen, it's an impossibilty. A new caucus would be costly. |
tekisui |
Feb-17-08 12:10 PM |
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I am pretty sure they could sit it out if they wished. |
Ravy |
Feb-17-08 12:13 PM |
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Pledged delegates can change after the first vote, not for the first vote. |
tekisui |
Feb-17-08 12:14 PM |
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Sure they can. And have. |
Ravy |
Feb-17-08 12:21 PM |
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they could hold a caucus. That they won't, speaks volumes. |
cryingshame |
Feb-17-08 12:11 PM |
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Obama wins by large enough margins that seating them makes little difference |
CreekDog |
Feb-17-08 12:13 PM |
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Another Solution... |
WillyT |
Feb-17-08 12:13 PM |
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That is a possibility... |
kentuck |
Feb-17-08 12:18 PM |
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Now You'd Have To Go To madfloridian For That Information... |
WillyT |
Feb-17-08 12:33 PM |
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It does appear that the Democrats in FL were very enthusiastic... |
kentuck |
Feb-17-08 12:35 PM |
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Solomon would cut each state in half |
whistle |
Feb-17-08 12:16 PM |
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My Solution as an Obama supporter. |
writes3000 |
Feb-17-08 12:18 PM |
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Obama was not on the ballot in Michigan... |
kentuck |
Feb-17-08 12:21 PM |
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Ha! Good point. |
writes3000 |
Feb-17-08 12:23 PM |
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NO BIBLICAL REFERENCES ON DU!1!1 SERIES! STOP preeeaching! nt |
Truth Hurts A Lot |
Feb-17-08 12:34 PM |
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actually solomon had the answer give each party half of the delegations |
grantcart |
Feb-17-08 12:36 PM |
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Sure he could. Around 90% would be satisfied with new caucuses |
stevenleser |
Feb-17-08 12:38 PM |
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Do you live in Michigan or Florida? |
Bread and Circus |
Feb-17-08 12:41 PM |
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No, I do not... |
kentuck |
Feb-17-08 12:42 PM |
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I am native to Michigan and currently reside in Michigan. I pay thousands of dollars of taxes here.. |
Bread and Circus |
Feb-17-08 01:40 PM |
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I think the MI election is different from Florida's... |
kentuck |
Feb-17-08 01:48 PM |
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How in hell can you consider Florida's election real either? Let me ask you a few simple questions: |
Bread and Circus |
Feb-17-08 02:25 PM |
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Did I say Florida's election was "real" or legitimate? |
kentuck |
Feb-17-08 02:52 PM |
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I meant it more rhetorically than directed at you. |
Bread and Circus |
Feb-17-08 03:27 PM |
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Well, do you think that people cannot empathize or sympathize with |
stevenleser |
Feb-17-08 12:43 PM |
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Simple: they broke the rules, so they get no vote on the candidate |
PurityOfEssence |
Feb-17-08 12:44 PM |
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That sounds like such a stern government-type warning... |
kentuck |
Feb-17-08 12:47 PM |
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They had plenty of time to attempt to get the rules changed |
PurityOfEssence |
Feb-17-08 10:18 PM |
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Simple: no vote for the nominee, votes on party policy, planks, etc. |
PurityOfEssence |
Feb-17-08 12:51 PM |
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Interesting. |
kentuck |
Feb-17-08 12:57 PM |
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Not just a penalty, a HUGE penalty |
PurityOfEssence |
Feb-17-08 05:48 PM |
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We ignore most voters in most states every primary season, |
billyoc |
Feb-17-08 01:00 PM |
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No, but Solomon would consider ALL of the relevent policies: |
Umbram |
Feb-17-08 01:06 PM |
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You answer your own question |
matt819 |
Feb-17-08 01:27 PM |
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The 1,400,000 voters in FL did not break the "rules"... |
kentuck |
Feb-17-08 01:31 PM |
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Who said life was fair? |
matt819 |
Feb-17-08 09:09 PM |
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FL and MI should not be a deciding factor in determining the nominee, but |
stahbrett |
Feb-17-08 01:32 PM |
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I'm an Obama supporter, but seat them (counting the "uncommitted"s) |
dmesg |
Feb-17-08 01:52 PM |
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You, my good man, must make up your mind before the Kentucky contest. |
David Zephyr |
Feb-17-08 03:26 PM |
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Solomon would order that the responsible Democrats in both states be cut in half, which I like. |
TexasObserver |
Feb-17-08 04:57 PM |
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For Michigan... |
hayu_lol |
Feb-17-08 05:36 PM |
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Nonsense. Hillary cheated. Others didn't. She can't benefit from cheating. |
TexasObserver |
Feb-17-08 06:02 PM |
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This is why I feel that FL ballots should be redone...my personal story... |
jab105 |
Feb-17-08 05:43 PM |
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Bill Nelson says "absolutely not" to do-over. |
madfloridian |
Feb-17-08 06:00 PM |
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