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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-16-08 12:55 PM
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10. It allows the states to participate in the convention on the platform etc
It makes their power meaningless and that is what makes it just. States will not have an incentive to buck the rules in the future.
It will take away the animosity that would be harmful in the general election.
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  -The solution for MI and FL is easy and just grantcart  Feb-16-08 12:45 PM   #0 
  - But BOTH candidates agreed to disenfranchise FL and MI voters.  Billy Burnett   Feb-16-08 12:49 PM   #1 
  - It will only hurt the democrats in the general election. My solution heals  grantcart   Feb-16-08 12:50 PM   #4 
     - Hold on. It was the agreement by the 2 candidates.  Billy Burnett   Feb-16-08 12:52 PM   #6 
        - No it was not an agreement between the 2 candidates  WilyWondr   Feb-16-08 01:16 PM   #28 
           - They were repug legislatures that moved the dates.  Billy Burnett   Feb-16-08 01:29 PM   #34 
           - Wow. Are you serious?  WilyWondr   Feb-16-08 01:54 PM   #40 
           - Nope. Dem. Senator Bill Nelson sued the Dem. Party over it. He lost. Case closed. nt  indie_ana_500   Feb-17-08 10:23 AM   #45 
           - My head spins whenever I consider the MI FL thing  truedelphi   Feb-16-08 01:36 PM   #36 
              - Mine too, but splitting the vote in half might be worse.  Billy Burnett   Feb-16-08 01:45 PM   #38 
                 - There are usually no good or easy solutions  truedelphi   Feb-16-08 01:48 PM   #39 
  - it's a great idea...  lisa58   Feb-16-08 12:49 PM   #2 
  - Then don't count them at all.  Billy Burnett   Feb-16-08 12:50 PM   #3 
     - Is exactly the type of compromises that conventions have done  grantcart   Feb-16-08 12:53 PM   #8 
        - Really? I'm looking for representation.  Billy Burnett   Feb-16-08 12:56 PM   #12 
  - If they do anything with the delegates, that would probably make  Vinca   Feb-16-08 12:50 PM   #5 
  - Why conjure up a delegate count? Its just too repug a move for me.  Billy Burnett   Feb-16-08 01:00 PM   #16 
     - I agree.  Vinca   Feb-16-08 01:08 PM   #23 
  - Isn't a mathematical divide essentially meaningless?  IDemo   Feb-16-08 12:52 PM   #7 
  - Right. Its a complete Diebold-like fabricated vote count.  Billy Burnett   Feb-16-08 12:54 PM   #9 
  - It allows the states to participate in the convention on the platform etc  grantcart   Feb-16-08 12:55 PM   #10 
     - States might have moved dates, but the candidates in question agreed to the party rules.  Billy Burnett   Feb-16-08 01:05 PM   #21 
        - The candidates did not agree with it they pledged not to participate in any  grantcart   Feb-16-08 01:08 PM   #24 
           - Huh?  Billy Burnett   Feb-16-08 01:22 PM   #32 
              - your sentence in the post reads as if the candidates agreed to moving the date.  grantcart   Feb-16-08 01:28 PM   #33 
                 - Thanks. Fixed it.  Billy Burnett   Feb-16-08 01:32 PM   #35 
                    - ah yes makes sense now  grantcart   Feb-16-08 02:08 PM   #42 
  - Works for me  rocknation   Feb-16-08 12:55 PM   #11 
  - How does it 'recognize' voters?  Billy Burnett   Feb-16-08 01:02 PM   #19 
     - It recognizes that the voters voted,  rocknation   Feb-17-08 10:15 AM   #44 
  - Dumb and pointless symbolic gestures mean nothing  Tarc   Feb-16-08 12:56 PM   #13 
  - Doesnt counting them now just increase the total number needed to win the nomination?  DJ13   Feb-16-08 12:57 PM   #14 
  - yes but a revote would do exactly the opposit - give the states that  grantcart   Feb-16-08 01:01 PM   #17 
     - The states might have moved dates, but it was the party that ruled on them.  Billy Burnett   Feb-16-08 01:12 PM   #25 
     - Ya Know GC, You Just Sold Me On It !!!  WillyT   Feb-16-08 02:07 PM   #41 
  - Yeah I can go for that, if they can't re-run it offcially split if fair.  cooolandrew   Feb-16-08 12:58 PM   #15 
  - The number of delegates maybe should be cut by half, then distributed according to the vote.  Skip Intro   Feb-16-08 01:02 PM   #18 
  - there was no election to split in half  grantcart   Feb-16-08 01:05 PM   #20 
     - Agreed to by the candidates, and endorsed by every other primary voter for either of them.  Billy Burnett   Feb-16-08 01:07 PM   #22 
     - There was an election, the DNC just may tell those voters they don't matter.  Skip Intro   Feb-16-08 01:17 PM   #29 
  - The solution was decided upon last year  WilyWondr   Feb-16-08 01:13 PM   #26 
  - You must be an Obama supporter.  juajen   Feb-16-08 01:15 PM   #27 
  - The solution was decided before the primary took place  WilyWondr   Feb-16-08 01:18 PM   #30 
  - Since there was no campaign there was no winner and as of today  grantcart   Feb-16-08 01:19 PM   #31 
  - Don't bother. It's too late now.  Notorious Bohemian   Feb-16-08 01:39 PM   #37 
  - Its not too late for the general election  grantcart   Feb-16-08 06:19 PM   #43 
  - Have the elected Democratic officials of each state...  Pryderi   Feb-17-08 10:30 AM   #46 

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