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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 06:20 PM
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53. I don't care about politics, people who cast votes MUST have them counted
Is this a democracy or not? Even a 4 year old could understand that. I personally don't care who wins in the end, much, but votes cast must be counted. I think we all learned that unalterable fact from campaign 2000.

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  -Obama on MI and FL - Even my 6 Year Old Understands it's not Fair RamboLiberal  Feb-15-08 05:40 PM   #0 
  - I FULLY agree with Obama's 6 year old. n/t  nomorewhopper   Feb-15-08 05:40 PM   #1 
  - gee i think Obama forgets he said this..and did this ..breaking rules ok for obama?  flyarm   Feb-15-08 07:23 PM   #108 
     - it says "presumptive" nominee...  nomorewhopper   Feb-15-08 07:42 PM   #122 
  - Apparently population size negates the fact they broke the rules for Hillary supporters.  GarbagemanLB   Feb-15-08 05:41 PM   #2 
  - Obama was for seating the delegates before he was against it. "Obama Vows To 'Do What's Right'"  goldcanyonaz   Feb-15-08 05:43 PM   #3 
  - When? Do you have a link to prove your claim?  EmperorHasNoClothes   Feb-15-08 05:44 PM   #4 
  - here is a link and what Obama said after the dnc imposed the sanctions in Florida..  flyarm   Feb-15-08 08:07 PM   #133 
  - proof? probably not, I know the Clintons aren't big on facts  LordJFT   Feb-15-08 05:44 PM   #5 
  - bullshit. he never supported using them in determining the nominee  JackORoses   Feb-15-08 05:46 PM   #7 
  - It's remarks like that that lessen any credibility you 'might' have left. Pls.  babylonsister   Feb-15-08 05:52 PM   #12 
  - He said he would seat them.  joshcryer   Feb-15-08 05:55 PM   #13 
  - I did, and thanks for your judging my credibility.  goldcanyonaz   Feb-15-08 05:56 PM   #15 
     - I said about a month ago that the *only* situation where they weren't seated was if Obama didn't...  joshcryer   Feb-15-08 05:59 PM   #18 
     - How dare you! He's a Saint.  goldcanyonaz   Feb-15-08 06:01 PM   #22 
     - Thanks for the link, but from September? Things do have a habit  babylonsister   Feb-15-08 07:08 PM   #102 
  - a 6 yr old has more sense than Hillary and some of her supporters - Heres one!  GoldieAZ49   Feb-15-08 07:32 PM   #112 
     - You no likey my linky?  goldcanyonaz   Feb-15-08 07:36 PM   #117 
     - You're one all right, a BO supporter with the sense of a six year old.  dogman   Feb-15-08 08:16 PM   #136 
        - Take it up with the STATE officials  GoldieAZ49   Feb-15-08 08:38 PM   #139 
           - Yes, because if certain states disenfranchise certain voters it's no problem.  dogman   Feb-15-08 08:44 PM   #140 
  - Yep, I agree.. the rules were well known long ago as to what would happen...  LakeSamish706   Feb-15-08 05:44 PM   #6 
  - it would be unfair to Floridians as well - many didn't bother to vote - knowing it wouldn't count.  peacebird   Feb-15-08 05:48 PM   #8 
     - and yet  MonkeyFunk   Feb-15-08 05:49 PM   #9 
        - A 6 yr old has more sense than Hillary and some of her supporters - Heres one!  GoldieAZ49   Feb-15-08 07:32 PM   #111 
  - More hyperbole from Obama.  MethuenProgressive   Feb-15-08 05:50 PM   #10 
  - I agree with Sasha Obama!  VolcanoJen   Feb-15-08 05:50 PM   #11 
  - Why isn't that little girl wearing a helmet?  LisaM   Feb-15-08 06:09 PM   #33 
  - Uh, a helmet on bumper cars?  ButterflyBlood   Feb-15-08 06:52 PM   #91 
     - Well, yeah. Heck, little kids even wear them on tricycles  LisaM   Feb-15-08 07:04 PM   #99 
  - That's a great picture. She's having a blast with Daddy!  JBoy   Feb-15-08 06:48 PM   #88 
  - I'm Not Weighing In On MI. But One Would Have The Critical Thinking Ability Of A 6 Yr Old, To Think  OPERATIONMINDCRIME   Feb-15-08 05:56 PM   #14 
  - What they don't like is that Obama wasn't allowed to be on the ground to buy votes.  joshcryer   Feb-15-08 05:57 PM   #16 
  - Funniest Thing To Me, Is That You Don't Hear Any Of The 1.7 Million Voters Running To The Press And  OPERATIONMINDCRIME   Feb-15-08 06:00 PM   #21 
  - And how many renters stayed home because they have no property tax and were told  Yael   Feb-15-08 06:04 PM   #26 
     - Damned If I Care.  OPERATIONMINDCRIME   Feb-15-08 06:08 PM   #29 
        - Double 2004.  joshcryer   Feb-15-08 06:09 PM   #32 
           - Yup.  OPERATIONMINDCRIME   Feb-15-08 06:11 PM   #37 
  - No different from what Hillary would have done  NeedleCast   Feb-15-08 06:15 PM   #41 
     - It just shows that they are both the same side of the coin.  joshcryer   Feb-15-08 06:19 PM   #49 
  - Let's elect a President with NO CAMPAIGN  sandnsea   Feb-15-08 06:10 PM   #36 
  - The Only Lack Of Integrity Is In Denying 1.7 Legitimate Voters Their Voice.  OPERATIONMINDCRIME   Feb-15-08 06:17 PM   #45 
     - They don't know what the hell happend  sandnsea   Feb-15-08 06:37 PM   #76 
        - Here's A Clue For Ya: Over 90% Of Voters Probably Don't Go To Any Campaign Events.  OPERATIONMINDCRIME   Feb-15-08 06:55 PM   #95 
           - A campaign is a lot more than an event  sandnsea   Feb-15-08 07:17 PM   #104 
              - Same Tired Old 'Name Recognition' Argument. C'mon Now, What Is This, A Year Ago?  OPERATIONMINDCRIME   Feb-15-08 07:31 PM   #110 
                 - That's what makes it a campaign  sandnsea   Feb-15-08 07:45 PM   #124 
                    - Why Am I Not Surprised That You Couldn't Quite Comprehend The Points In My Post.  OPERATIONMINDCRIME   Feb-15-08 08:10 PM   #135 
                       - You know what  sandnsea   Feb-15-08 08:28 PM   #138 
  - BUT-were they rushing out solely to vote in a presidential primary...  QuestionAll   Feb-15-08 06:15 PM   #43 
  - It is unfair to disenfranchise people. Obama needs to understand why we are the DEMOCRATIC Party  jackson_dem   Feb-15-08 05:58 PM   #17 
  - Let's see her win after she pisses off the African American  RamboLiberal   Feb-15-08 06:04 PM   #25 
  - The DNC could give uncommitted to Obama. Obama chose to take his name off the ballot...  joshcryer   Feb-15-08 06:08 PM   #31 
  - Why are you Clinton people so afraid of doing another vote?  RamboLiberal   Feb-15-08 06:12 PM   #38 
  - I'd be happy for a do-over, but that's changing the rules, something Obama supporters didn't want.  joshcryer   Feb-15-08 06:21 PM   #55 
  - That is like asking for the Super Bowl to played again in New England  jackson_dem   Feb-15-08 06:29 PM   #66 
     - True, he has the momentum that changes the whole dynamic. It *would* be like Hillary...  joshcryer   Feb-15-08 06:33 PM   #72 
  - Dupe - self delete  RamboLiberal   Feb-15-08 06:12 PM   #39 
  - But it shouldn't. Many of those votes were for Edwards  jackson_dem   Feb-15-08 06:27 PM   #61 
     - Edwards dropped out so they'd broker the uncommitteds to whoever he endorsed.  joshcryer   Feb-15-08 06:28 PM   #65 
  - Racist blackmail from the Obama camp. A sign of what is to come at the convention?  jackson_dem   Feb-15-08 06:24 PM   #60 
  - who's being disenfranchised? certainly not MI or FL voters...  QuestionAll   Feb-15-08 06:17 PM   #46 
  - They knew which is why they came out in record numbers?  joshcryer   Feb-15-08 06:22 PM   #56 
     - or perhaps there were other issues/races on the ballots?  QuestionAll   Feb-15-08 08:09 PM   #134 
  - This, and the threat to use SDs to subvert the voters is really  ORDem   Feb-15-08 06:37 PM   #77 
  - A 6 yr old has more sense than Hillary and some of her supporters - Heres one!  GoldieAZ49   Feb-15-08 07:34 PM   #113 
  - But, team clinton does not  zidzi   Feb-15-08 05:59 PM   #19 
  - All I can say is this whole thing with SD and MI/FL is a friggin mess....  LakeSamish706   Feb-15-08 05:59 PM   #20 
  - So Obama thinks like a six year old?  dogman   Feb-15-08 06:02 PM   #23 
  - No his 6 year old has more common sense than  RamboLiberal   Feb-15-08 06:04 PM   #27 
  - I take it you did not vote in MI or FL.  dogman   Feb-15-08 06:10 PM   #35 
     - You know what - if my state legislature was so stupid to screw  RamboLiberal   Feb-15-08 06:15 PM   #42 
        - If your state legislature is dominated by GOPers, it probably is stupid.  dogman   Feb-15-08 06:27 PM   #63 
  - A 6 yr old has more sense than Hillary and some of her supporters - Heres one!  GoldieAZ49   Feb-15-08 07:35 PM   #115 
     - See post 136.  dogman   Feb-15-08 08:17 PM   #137 
  - I agree. Obama and his supporters have the logic of a 6 year old.  jlake   Feb-15-08 06:02 PM   #24 
  - And some of you Clinton supporters are like toddlers  RamboLiberal   Feb-15-08 06:05 PM   #28 
  - A 6 yr old has more sense than Hillary and some of her supporters - Heres one!  GoldieAZ49   Feb-15-08 07:35 PM   #116 
  - I'm confident that, in the end, all the votes cast will be counted  Cronus Protagonist   Feb-15-08 06:08 PM   #30 
  - I hope it doesn't come to Obama not seating them.  joshcryer   Feb-15-08 06:10 PM   #34 
     - Even the Democratic leadership can see the future if they refuse to count votes  Cronus Protagonist   Feb-15-08 06:16 PM   #44 
        - The DNC knows that if they give Clinton the nom with FL and MI  RamboLiberal   Feb-15-08 06:17 PM   #47 
           - If they give either candidate the nomination without a plurality of the votes...  joshcryer   Feb-15-08 06:20 PM   #52 
           - I don't care about politics, people who cast votes MUST have them counted  Cronus Protagonist   Feb-15-08 06:20 PM   #53 
              - And people who didn't cast votes cause they were assured  RamboLiberal   Feb-15-08 06:23 PM   # 
                 - Oh yeah, record turnouts really represent people who believed their votes didn't count.  joshcryer   Feb-15-08 06:27 PM   #62 
                 - They succumbed to political influence, and I agree they should get to vote  Cronus Protagonist   Feb-15-08 07:39 PM   #118 
  - There goes Barack, pimping his daughter for political gain.  MethuenProgressive   Feb-15-08 06:14 PM   #40 
  - To bad you can't be suspended! I never said that about the word pimp - Shows your character!!!!!!!  1776Forever   Feb-15-08 06:19 PM   #50 
  - DAMN.  joshcryer   Feb-15-08 06:23 PM   #57 
  - DU's Obamas supported and defended the use of that phrase, so it must be OK.  MethuenProgressive   Feb-15-08 06:31 PM   #68 
     - You argue like a child.  DS1   Feb-15-08 06:39 PM   #78 
     - Did I forget the smiley?  MethuenProgressive   Feb-15-08 06:52 PM   #92 
     - Ignored has that habit  sniffa   Feb-15-08 06:54 PM   #94 
     - You were just trying to be "hip", Don't they have a sense of humor?  Hoof Hearted   Feb-15-08 06:39 PM   #79 
        - "Kicking Republican Ass," is a great sig line photo  MethuenProgressive   Feb-15-08 06:51 PM   #89 
           - .  Hoof Hearted   Feb-15-08 07:46 PM   #125 
  - That you wallow in THEIR mud does not make wallowing acceptable.  rinsd   Feb-15-08 07:18 PM   #105 
  - This is a gimmy to me! How can we allow BUSH rules in the Presidency again???  1776Forever   Feb-15-08 06:17 PM   #48 
  - No  MonkeyFunk   Feb-15-08 06:41 PM   #81 
  - Clinton did not force Obama to remove his name from the ballot. That was his choice.  MichiganVote   Feb-15-08 06:20 PM   #51 
  - His and Biden's, Dodd's, Edward's but not HRC - Hmm - Even after she had signed up to do it!  1776Forever   Feb-15-08 06:23 PM   #58 
  - Don't forget Kucinich!  joshcryer   Feb-15-08 06:31 PM   #69 
  - None of them signed up to  MonkeyFunk   Feb-15-08 06:43 PM   #84 
  - Edwards, Biden and Obama requested their names be removed from the ballot.  MichiganVote   Feb-15-08 06:47 PM   #87 
  - Edwards, Biden, Richardson, and Kucinich made the same choice as Obama...  Bicoastal   Feb-15-08 06:23 PM   #59 
     - That the pledge didn't require them to remove their name from the ballot?  joshcryer   Feb-15-08 06:32 PM   #70 
     - Yeah, and Bush went into Iraq because Iraqis were clamoring for freedom.  Bicoastal   Feb-15-08 06:34 PM   #73 
        - No, by removing your name from a ballot you are essentially saying "I am not represented."  joshcryer   Feb-15-08 06:36 PM   #75 
           - That would be true ONLY if the candidates had been allowed to campaign in those states!  Bicoastal   Feb-15-08 06:43 PM   #82 
              - So the fuck what? People can vote how they chose.  joshcryer   Feb-15-08 06:44 PM   #85 
                 - You are correct., of course  Cronus Protagonist   Feb-15-08 07:41 PM   #120 
     - Kucinich left his name on the ballot. Even after the others removed their names...  MichiganVote   Feb-15-08 06:51 PM   #90 
  - THIS JUST IN: Hillary Clinton to appear as a contestant on hit TV Game show...  Bicoastal   Feb-15-08 06:21 PM   #54 
  - he just lost my vote  DrDan   Feb-15-08 06:28 PM   #64 
  - He thought he'd run away with it Feb 5th, so he wasn't worried about having to disenfranchise...  joshcryer   Feb-15-08 06:30 PM   #67 
  - Hello from Kearney Dr. Dan! GO HUSKERS!  Hoof Hearted   Feb-15-08 06:41 PM   #80 
     - Hey Kearney  DrDan   Feb-15-08 07:18 PM   #106 
        - I'm in for that.  Hoof Hearted   Feb-15-08 07:50 PM   #127 
  - correct me if I'm wrong  AJH032   Feb-15-08 06:33 PM   #71 
  - Obama's "logic" is just politics. He has no problem disenfranchising voters.  joshcryer   Feb-15-08 06:35 PM   #74 
  - This just in: Obama to voters - fuck you. Even my six year old knows you don't count.  Hoof Hearted   Feb-15-08 06:43 PM   #83 
  - It'd be different if he was never for seating them, but he was. He flip flops here.  joshcryer   Feb-15-08 06:45 PM   #86 
  - She got that right  ButterflyBlood   Feb-15-08 06:53 PM   #93 
  - Even my 6 Year Old Understands it's not Fair  Clinton Crusader   Feb-15-08 07:01 PM   #96 
  - ahh yoo hoo ohhh Obama... remember when you said this? and you broke the rules in Fla???  flyarm   Feb-15-08 07:02 PM   #97 
  - Wow! Owned!  joshcryer   Feb-15-08 07:06 PM   #100 
  - It makes no difference really,  1awake   Feb-15-08 07:03 PM   #98 
  - Yep, I expect her to step down by March 5th. But the smears will continue until then, sadly.  joshcryer   Feb-15-08 07:07 PM   #101 
     - What makes me mad is  1awake   Feb-15-08 07:17 PM   #103 
  - Exactly, isnt that one of the first life lessons children learn  Hill_YesWeWill   Feb-15-08 07:20 PM   #107 
  - The 6 yr old has more sense than Hillary and some of her supporters  GoldieAZ49   Feb-15-08 07:30 PM   #109 
  - Oh, my. Is Obama "pimping out" his daughter?  carlotta   Feb-15-08 07:34 PM   #114 
  - Great, can he explain it to me?  cbayer   Feb-15-08 07:39 PM   #119 
  - please make this it's own post. it is a great explanation to what happened in FL  MassDemm   Feb-15-08 07:54 PM   #128 
     - I have but it is being massively ignored. Here is link.  cbayer   Feb-15-08 07:57 PM   #129 
     - And yes, it appears she is. Feel free to start thread with link. nt.  cbayer   Feb-15-08 07:59 PM   #130 
  - Oh c'mon. What a load of nonsense. His 6 year old??  Beausoir   Feb-15-08 07:42 PM   #121 
  - Rules Are Rules - Doesn't Matter Who Said What nt  lligrd   Feb-15-08 07:43 PM   #123 
  - To paraphrase JFK.  Ronnie   Feb-15-08 07:50 PM   #126 
  - Pretty sure that's what fascist dictators say about rigged elections too.  Political Heretic   Feb-15-08 08:01 PM   #132 
  - Six year olds unite!  Political Heretic   Feb-15-08 08:00 PM   #131 
 

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