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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-15-08 03:57 PM
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54. It's true some states don't count, but parts of those states do count
Unfortunately from your avatar, I can see that the part of your state that you are in...does not count. Moving on... :yoiks:
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  -Clinton says she does NOT view Ohio as a MUST-WIN. mod mom  Feb-15-08 03:20 PM   #0 
  - oh dear, you mean Ohioans don't know they have to vote for Hillary?  JackORoses   Feb-15-08 03:21 PM   #1 
  - Do they not count pre-emptively this time. Now that would be bold. -nt  NMMatt   Feb-15-08 03:23 PM   #4 
  - "She must have gotten wind of the turn-outs"  DJ13   Feb-15-08 03:22 PM   #2 
  - Probably figures it's Easier to go after Super-Dels than real voters...  sloppyjoe25s   Feb-15-08 04:38 PM   #78 
  - Wow... she better win Ohio  NMMatt   Feb-15-08 03:22 PM   #3 
  - Do you know if this has ever  zidzi   Feb-15-08 03:26 PM   #14 
  - No  NMMatt   Feb-15-08 03:42 PM   #37 
  - Thanks, that was  zidzi   Feb-15-08 03:47 PM   #44 
  - 1968  RUMMYisFROSTED   Feb-15-08 04:34 PM   #74 
  - 1984 - Mondale over Hart  dansolo   Feb-15-08 07:12 PM   #88 
     - Yeah, that didn't  zidzi   Feb-15-08 10:55 PM   #105 
  - yep --- you summed it up well!...n/t  RiverStone   Feb-15-08 03:37 PM   #32 
  - This is probably just her expectations-lowering spin  NJSecularist   Feb-15-08 03:24 PM   #5 
  - I'd be absolutely floored if she doesn't win Ohio. I put this one in  Kahuna   Feb-15-08 06:32 PM   #87 
     - I wouldn't.  NJSecularist   Feb-15-08 09:35 PM   #98 
        - Demographics almost exactly the same as Missouri.  ORDem   Feb-15-08 09:37 PM   #99 
           - Yup.  NJSecularist   Feb-15-08 09:43 PM   #101 
  - Move The Goalpost!!!  JimGinPA   Feb-15-08 03:24 PM   #6 
  - Even Carville said she HAS to win OH and TX or it's over. I'm sure most people believe that, too,  jenmito   Feb-15-08 03:27 PM   #17 
  - It's nearly 2 months between Mar 4 (OH/TX) and April 22nd in PA.  ellisonz   Feb-15-08 08:25 PM   #92 
  - Are you new to politics? It's called lowering expectations.  Kerry2008   Feb-15-08 03:24 PM   #7 
  - It's called, she's in real trouble.  Political Heretic   Feb-15-08 03:26 PM   #12 
  - I hope so..nothing better  zidzi   Feb-15-08 03:27 PM   #16 
  - If she's lowering expectations now, then I expect she's lost. Just this week her campaign claimed  John Q. Citizen   Feb-15-08 03:30 PM   #22 
  - glub glub glub  Iktomiwicasa   Feb-15-08 03:37 PM   #33 
  - Please cite an example of Obama lowering expectations..  tridim   Feb-15-08 03:31 PM   #24 
  - Obama's been doing quite the opposite  jgraz   Feb-15-08 03:46 PM   #42 
     - Every time I see a "But Obama does it too" post I ask for a cite  tridim   Feb-15-08 04:09 PM   #61 
        - It was true after Super Tues.  sad_one   Feb-15-08 04:56 PM   #80 
  - Then why did Clinton lackey Carville call it a must win?  mod mom   Feb-15-08 03:33 PM   #26 
  - you can't lower expectations, when those same expectations are your only hope  JackORoses   Feb-15-08 03:35 PM   #29 
  - No but she can get more out of a victory if she does -nt  NMMatt   Feb-15-08 03:45 PM   #40 
  - the only way for her to get anything is for her to get 60%. Anything less and she is finished.  JackORoses   Feb-15-08 03:50 PM   #48 
     - She has to win AND beat the spread..  tridim   Feb-15-08 04:17 PM   #66 
  - oh no  sad_one   Feb-15-08 05:24 PM   #83 
  - But  quakerboy   Feb-15-08 05:48 PM   #85 
  - From Deep Red Cincinnati-700+ Volunteers show up for Obama w short notice:  mod mom   Feb-15-08 03:42 PM   #36 
  - That is FANTASTIC!!!!  hogwyld   Feb-15-08 04:29 PM   #70 
  - Not this low  CreekDog   Feb-15-08 03:50 PM   #49 
  - ONE day for Obama's ground game and she's allready backpeddling.  cottonseed   Feb-15-08 04:21 PM   #67 
  - If she lowers the expectations much lower, they will declare her campaign dead and pull the plug.  Major Hogwash   Feb-15-08 04:32 PM   #72 
  - It's too late for that  southern_dem   Feb-15-08 04:34 PM   #73 
  - Carville was right (for once)  BeyondGeography   Feb-15-08 03:25 PM   #8 
  - True. Very true. She loses either one, and she's done. She's probably done anyway.  TexasObserver   Feb-15-08 03:29 PM   #20 
  - she couldnt find it on a map  mkultra   Feb-15-08 03:25 PM   # 
  - Good god....  ALiberalSailor   Feb-15-08 03:32 PM   # 
  - I wonder how much and how often  hogwyld   Feb-15-08 04:31 PM   #71 
     - You can tell she's done a good deal of work on herself...  Mother Of Four   Feb-15-08 08:21 PM   #91 
  - She can so find it on a map, but that's what she pays Mark Penn to do  CreekDog   Feb-15-08 03:53 PM   #51 
  - My gods.... this is becoming dellusional.  Political Heretic   Feb-15-08 03:25 PM   #9 
  - "None!" "What I need is  zidzi   Feb-15-08 03:31 PM   #23 
  - Wait for them to say they don't need pledged delegates --they will win on the second ballot  CreekDog   Feb-15-08 03:55 PM   #52 
  - Of course. She's counting on those super delegates.  bunnies   Feb-15-08 03:25 PM   #10 
  - Her internal poll numbers show her losing.  Radical Activist   Feb-15-08 03:25 PM   #11 
  - Lowering expectations, again? I thought this was a 'must-win' state.  babylonsister   Feb-15-08 03:26 PM   #13 
  - "Everybody in politics lies, but they do it with such ease, its troubling.  jefferson_dem   Feb-15-08 03:27 PM   #15 
  - Ohioans must not count either.  Skidmore   Feb-15-08 03:28 PM   #18 
  - It's true some states don't count, but parts of those states do count  CreekDog   Feb-15-08 03:57 PM   #54 
  - Read as;  SoFlaJet   Feb-15-08 03:28 PM   #19 
  - oh dear, the preemptive excuse machine is already turned to "on".  Lerkfish   Feb-15-08 03:29 PM   #21 
  - Heeeere we go!  BlueDogDemocratNH   Feb-15-08 03:32 PM   #25 
  - We saw this movie about a month ago...  ALiberalSailor   Feb-15-08 03:33 PM   #27 
  - Tin Soldiers and Hillary's coming.  TexasObserver   Feb-15-08 03:34 PM   #28 
  - Can you say "bunker mentality"?  jefferson_dem   Feb-15-08 03:36 PM   #31 
  - Has Obama said he views Ohio as a "must win" in order to knock Hillary out?  jackson_dem   Feb-15-08 03:36 PM   #30 
  - That doesn't even make any sense  EmperorHasNoClothes   Feb-15-08 03:46 PM   #41 
     - Only Obamites say that  jackson_dem   Feb-15-08 04:36 PM   #76 
        - She needs an average of 57% in every one of those states to win  EmperorHasNoClothes   Feb-15-08 05:47 PM   #84 
  - Jesus Christ, they're making my head spin  WesDem   Feb-15-08 03:40 PM   #34 
  - They must have sprayed "Obama gas" over the crowd.  elixir   Feb-15-08 03:41 PM   #35 
  - I guess so, because Clinton gas makes you not worry about things  CreekDog   Feb-15-08 03:59 PM   #57 
  - So, should we just ask the super delegates now if they want to make her the nominee?  JVS   Feb-15-08 03:43 PM   #38 
  - Hmmmmmm......  Hepburn   Feb-15-08 03:45 PM   #39 
  - This is why insignificance is so useful  CreekDog   Feb-15-08 03:46 PM   #43 
  - Senator Clinton says winning nomination not viewed as a must in winning the nomination  CreekDog   Feb-15-08 03:48 PM   #45 
  - Sadly, that's pretty close to the truth  jgraz   Feb-15-08 03:49 PM   #47 
  - No kidding, is Karl Rove their advisor or what?  harun   Feb-15-08 04:00 PM   #58 
  - Hahahahahaha - post of the day!  Major Hogwash   Feb-15-08 04:36 PM   #75 
  - She clearly plans to try the MI/FL/Superdelegate strategy  jgraz   Feb-15-08 03:48 PM   #46 
  - maybe she is`t fit for command  madrchsod   Feb-15-08 03:53 PM   #50 
  - But it is. Everyone knows TX and OH are must wins.  loveangelc   Feb-15-08 03:55 PM   #53 
  - This is big news. Maybe you should post this again?!!!  elixir   Feb-15-08 03:57 PM   #55 
  - Her Campaign's internals must be very bad n/t  intaglio   Feb-15-08 03:59 PM   #56 
  - My Thoughts Exactly  DrFunkenstein   Feb-15-08 04:16 PM   #65 
  - Well, there you go. Ohio doesn't count. Michigan and Florida, however...  Yael   Feb-15-08 04:00 PM   #59 
  - This means Hillary knows Obama will run strong in OH  Botany   Feb-15-08 04:09 PM   #60 
  - What??!!  Yurem2008   Feb-15-08 04:14 PM   #64 
     - I live in Ohio  Botany   Feb-15-08 04:23 PM   #68 
  - Is this Clinton-speak for "Ohio is not a 'signifcant' state"?  David Zephyr   Feb-15-08 04:12 PM   #62 
  - Hillary better vote Obama. If anyone needs hope...  cottonseed   Feb-15-08 04:14 PM   #63 
  - Add Ohio to Clinton's "doesn't count" list. Sorry, Buckeyes. nt  Vinca   Feb-15-08 04:25 PM   #69 
  - Keep moving those goalposts, Hilly!  AtomicKitten   Feb-15-08 04:37 PM   #77 
  - Gee, she doesn't want to indulge in silly media slang terms for the election process...  shenmue   Feb-15-08 04:39 PM   #79 
  - sounds like the bottom is falling out....  nomorewhopper   Feb-15-08 04:57 PM   #81 
  - I think her words are much better than the Misleading OP and opening paragraph:  rodeodance   Feb-15-08 05:20 PM   #82 
  - Hillary is desperate now  workinclasszero   Feb-15-08 06:11 PM   #86 
  - I tell you what....  Jazzgirl   Feb-15-08 07:42 PM   #89 
  - she thinks she can win over the super D's and steal this thing...  Az_lefty   Feb-15-08 08:07 PM   #90 
  - does the truth matter at all to you? She doesn't see the state as a 'firewall'  bigtree   Feb-15-08 08:30 PM   #93 
  - I used the entire quote from the article " in the OP. Maybe she should get Carville  mod mom   Feb-15-08 09:24 PM   #94 
     - media gossip on a TV show that a minority of Americans, much less voters, watch  bigtree   Feb-15-08 09:27 PM   #95 
     - Keith Olbermann is a media gossip?  mod mom   Feb-15-08 09:33 PM   #97 
        - He's been bashing Clinton lately and pumping up Obama  bigtree   Feb-15-08 09:39 PM   #100 
        - If you actually watched last night instead of speculated you would have heard  mod mom   Feb-16-08 08:51 AM   #106 
           - I watched. My OPINION stands. Shove it with your attempts to marginalize that opinion  bigtree   Feb-16-08 09:10 AM   #111 
        - The mighty oak has fallen.  KAZ   Feb-15-08 09:45 PM   #102 
           - His celebrity bashing is crap too. He's a bore when he finishes with Bush and the republicans  bigtree   Feb-15-08 09:50 PM   #104 
              - He is not just ranting against the GOP but the Dems who are working as enablers.  mod mom   Feb-16-08 08:54 AM   #107 
                 - He has some good and some bad on the program. THAT's critical thinking  bigtree   Feb-16-08 09:08 AM   #110 
                    - I have found very little to disagree with Keith-it doesn't mean I am void of critical  mod mom   Feb-16-08 11:53 AM   #113 
     - oH YeaH, About that lie in the headline . . . NOwhere does she say Ohio's not a MUST-WIN  bigtree   Feb-15-08 09:46 PM   #103 
        - "Sen. Hillary Clinton last night said she does not view Ohio as a must-win firewall to keep..."  mod mom   Feb-16-08 08:55 AM   #108 
           - THAT'S NOT A QUOTE FROM HER. HER STATEMENT SAY NOTHING OF THE KIND.  bigtree   Feb-16-08 09:06 AM   #109 
              - then take it up w the Reporter, Joe Hallet, who quoted her. He was there -were you?  mod mom   Feb-16-08 11:48 AM   #112 
  - of course its not she got the last 3 wins and all the Momentum NM, FL and MI  Moh96   Feb-15-08 09:30 PM   #96 

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