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41. In terms of jobs, of which nothing else is possible, where do both candidates stand?
Edited on Thu Feb-14-08 06:12 PM by HypnoToad
Or McCain.

What if everyone is being played as chumps?

Does being productive? Do people matter? Or shall we all don name tags with labels on them?
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  -The true progressive in the race: Hillary Clinton on LGBT support. jlake  Feb-14-08 05:40 PM   #0 
  - one barometer is not the only way to gauge the weather...  islandmkl   Feb-14-08 05:42 PM   #1 
  - Your are operating under wrong presumptions.  jlake   Feb-14-08 05:44 PM   #3 
  - The only presumption is that she gave her support to the George Bush  rhett o rick   Feb-14-08 05:48 PM   #6 
     - And Obama gave his support to McClurkin - so you see why I don't trust  jlake   Feb-14-08 05:52 PM   #9 
     - He isnt a Super Delegate  DGoldman1212   Feb-14-08 05:56 PM   #12 
     - What the Hell does bing a superdelegate or not have to do with giving  jlake   Feb-14-08 05:57 PM   #15 
     - Let me see supporting the IWAR and killing a million vs. supporting a nitwit. hmm how would i decide  rhett o rick   Feb-14-08 06:11 PM   #39 
     - Oh, so we wouldn't have gone to war except for Hillary?  MagsDem   Feb-14-08 05:56 PM   #13 
        - It is their way of changing the subject because they KNOW that BO was wrong!  avrdream   Feb-14-08 06:06 PM   #30 
        - But she sold us out by supporting bush/cheney. How much lower can you get than to vote with bush/  rhett o rick   Feb-14-08 06:30 PM   #61 
        - Read my lips, the point is simple, she is guilty of giving her support to Bush and Cheney.  rhett o rick   Feb-14-08 06:14 PM   #46 
        - See, changing the subject again!  avrdream   Feb-14-08 06:31 PM   #65 
           - The war is irrelevant? you are sick. And by the way, I don't give a good  rhett o rick   Feb-14-08 06:44 PM   #73 
              - I forgot to mention the cluster bombs that don't go off until a child picks them up. But you go  rhett o rick   Feb-14-08 06:46 PM   #74 
        - Don't you know? Hillary rode into Baghdad on a tank, hooting and hollering...  nonconformist   Feb-14-08 06:52 PM   #78 
           - Make fun if you must. But I live it when she voted to support Bush. She supported the worst  rhett o rick   Feb-14-08 07:29 PM   #82 
  - tht measure, as in obama votes to support and fund war? nt  msongs   Feb-14-08 05:58 PM   #18 
  - Tell Hillary to distance herself  DGoldman1212   Feb-14-08 05:42 PM   #2 
  - He also pushed thru NAFTA and supported the WTO. There are lots of reasons  rhett o rick   Feb-14-08 05:46 PM   #4 
     - Ditto  DGoldman1212   Feb-14-08 05:47 PM   #5 
  - thanks for posting this  ExtraGriz   Feb-14-08 05:49 PM   #7 
  - One interaction versus years of support for DOMA?  Spider Jerusalem   Feb-14-08 05:49 PM   #8 
  - Hillary never supported DOMA  MagsDem   Feb-14-08 05:55 PM   #11 
  - She's using a noted homophobe on her campaign trail.  Bornaginhooligan   Feb-14-08 05:57 PM   #14 
  - At least she isn't THE noted homophobe like Obama is on his  MagsDem   Feb-14-08 06:09 PM   #36 
     - Sure she is.  Bornaginhooligan   Feb-14-08 06:11 PM   #40 
        - Try again....  MagsDem   Feb-14-08 06:13 PM   #44 
  - ...  Spider Jerusalem   Feb-14-08 05:58 PM   #17 
     - Cut the crap -- here's her statement on DOMA  MagsDem   Feb-14-08 06:06 PM   #31 
        - Sure, she says that NOW...  Spider Jerusalem   Feb-14-08 06:10 PM   #37 
           - I don't have to do research -- I was there  MagsDem   Feb-14-08 06:12 PM   #42 
              - This isn't just about her votes in the Senate.  Spider Jerusalem   Feb-14-08 06:16 PM   #49 
                 - She didn't have one in 1996. I told you, I was there  MagsDem   Feb-14-08 06:28 PM   #59 
                    - Yes, she did.  Spider Jerusalem   Feb-14-08 06:30 PM   #63 
                       - Deleted message  Name removed   Feb-14-08 06:42 PM   #72 
                          - I'm not going to give you the response you deserve.  Spider Jerusalem   Feb-14-08 06:49 PM   #76 
  - I'm going to need a link to her "support of DOMA"  jlake   Feb-14-08 05:58 PM   #16 
     - Here:  Bornaginhooligan   Feb-14-08 06:00 PM   #21 
  - Hill is the only trustworthy candidate on GLBT issues  jackson_dem   Feb-14-08 05:55 PM   #10 
  - Kerry submitted first senate gay protection bill EVER in 80s and you trash him.  blm   Feb-14-08 05:59 PM   #19 
  - I am not trashing Kerry. Our choices are OBAMA or HILLARY... why is this so hard to understand?  jlake   Feb-14-08 06:00 PM   #20 
  - You attacked Kerry for his efforts and praised Hillary who did NOTHING in the senate.  blm   Feb-14-08 06:01 PM   #22 
     - I did not attack Kerry. I said he didn't get anything done. And again, I ask  jlake   Feb-14-08 06:02 PM   #24 
        - It's YOUR perspective, jlake - you have no sense of proportion and show little grasp  blm   Feb-14-08 06:06 PM   #29 
           - Well, Obama sure doesn't have a grasp on anything.  jlake   Feb-14-08 06:07 PM   #32 
              - Mainly because of poor reporting and spin and uninformed young activists who don't  blm   Feb-14-08 06:13 PM   #45 
  - you speak the truth  AtomicKitten   Feb-14-08 06:02 PM   #23 
  - Do you know the difference between a "Report" and a "Fact" or "Bill" and "Hillary"  jlake   Feb-14-08 06:03 PM   #25 
     - I know you don't.  AtomicKitten   Feb-14-08 06:04 PM   #27 
     - Ever hear Hillary take Bill to task publicly for his anti-gay moves?  blm   Feb-14-08 06:09 PM   #34 
        - I never fucking trashed Kerry. I am done with your flippant attitude towards me.  jlake   Feb-14-08 06:13 PM   #43 
           - YOU SAID THIS: "Hillary has done so much for gays...Kerry didn't accomplish shit"  blm   Feb-14-08 06:25 PM   #54 
              - Yes, that is not trashing him, but a fact. I am not saying he didn't try -- but  jlake   Feb-14-08 06:30 PM   #60 
                 - What did Hillary ACCOMPLISH? Kerry brought gay issues INTO the senate - THAT IS AN ACCOMPLISHMENT  blm   Feb-14-08 06:32 PM   #67 
                    - I'm through talking about Kerry. He is not a choice, so it is a moot point.  jlake   Feb-14-08 06:33 PM   #68 
                       - It was useful to show you know very little about the actual subject matter at hand.  blm   Feb-14-08 06:39 PM   #69 
                          - You are absolutely disconnected from reality. Kerry is NOT involved in this.  jlake   Feb-14-08 06:41 PM   #71 
                             - Bill is more involved than McClurkin and Bill DID screw over Kerry on GAY ISSUES he  blm   Feb-14-08 07:02 PM   #79 
  - Kerry, Clinton's, Obama on gay rights  MagsDem   Feb-14-08 06:24 PM   #52 
     - BULL> He didn't do it because it was safe in 93 and 96. He submitted FIRST EVER gay protection bill  blm   Feb-14-08 06:31 PM   #64 
        - Chill -- I voted for him  MagsDem   Feb-14-08 06:51 PM   #77 
           - He won. RNC stole that election and DNC let them do it.  blm   Feb-14-08 07:50 PM   #84 
  - Yeah. That must be why she's against gay marriage.  bunnies   Feb-14-08 06:03 PM   #26 
  - Obama may offer "a set of rights" ..... and his actions speak pretty clearly  jlake   Feb-14-08 06:05 PM   #28 
  - And you base that on one event...  DGoldman1212   Feb-14-08 06:10 PM   #38 
  - He never apologized. And his "basic set or rights" is a seperate, and oft repeated line.  jlake   Feb-14-08 06:14 PM   #47 
     - So dramatic...  DGoldman1212   Feb-14-08 06:18 PM   #51 
     - his set of rights is not seperate. Unless you're hung up on a word.  bunnies   Feb-14-08 06:28 PM   #57 
  - Yep - you nailed it  MagsDem   Feb-14-08 06:28 PM   #58 
  - I believe Hillary on LGBT rights  maddiejoan   Feb-14-08 06:08 PM   #33 
  - No she isn't  MagsDem   Feb-14-08 06:25 PM   #56 
  - K&R  BuffyTheFundieSlayer   Feb-14-08 06:09 PM   #35 
  - In terms of jobs, of which nothing else is possible, where do both candidates stand?  HypnoToad   Feb-14-08 06:11 PM   #41 
  - K&R.  Beausoir   Feb-14-08 06:15 PM   #48 
  - Instead of embracing the lesser of two evils,  no name no slogan   Feb-14-08 06:18 PM   #50 
  - Donnie McClurkin, gospel singer, is NOTHING like the KKK...  NorthernSpy   Feb-14-08 06:24 PM   #53 
     - And that would be the logical conclusion to McClurkin's rhetoric.  jlake   Feb-14-08 06:25 PM   #55 
     - melodrama  NorthernSpy   Feb-14-08 06:30 PM   #62 
     - No, it's not melodrama.  jlake   Feb-14-08 06:32 PM   #66 
     - Bill's decisions IN THE BULLY PULPIT effected gays more than any 100 McClurkins.  blm   Feb-14-08 07:43 PM   #83 
     - Oh, and here is a clip to this "Gospel Singer"  jlake   Feb-14-08 06:40 PM   #70 
        - It is terrible. But the million dead in Iraq is much worse. Think about it. nm  rhett o rick   Feb-14-08 06:48 PM   #75 
           - I've thought about it....  MagsDem   Feb-14-08 07:10 PM   #80 
              - I wish you the best. nm  rhett o rick   Feb-14-08 07:26 PM   #81 
 

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