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Leopolds Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-14-08 05:25 PM
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I Ask Again, Where's the FISA Stickie Thread? Why Won't DU/Admins Take a Stand?
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Edited on Thu Feb-14-08 06:07 PM by Leopolds Ghost
They did for Alito filibuster, they did not when Alito overturned Brown v. Board of Education
(largely because the deed was done.) They did on Katrina, they did not on the issue of Dems
voting to destroy New Orleans public housing (largely because half of all DUers supported
demolition, so there is and was no consensus on fighting the issue.)

Now we have a bill in the House, passed the Senate, which will:

** Make existing FISA laws permanent.

** Allow the NSA to legitimize its currently illegal "black op"
program at Fort Meade (which does not officially exist yet)

** Authorizes Bush and future Presidents to extend roving wiretaps to ALL US Citizens
using long distance carriers for phone or e-mail, without a warrant, and filter the
citizen communications, again without a warrant, for evidence (keywords)
in connexion with "terrorist" or domestic radicalization (the filter is word-based,
like Google -- so, NSA will dragnet all citizen communications for words like "terror"
and "bomb" among others) as long as it is related to an existing investigation
against a non-US citizen target.

(this is what Hitler did to Germany's mail, BTW.)

** Exempt the federal government from seeking any warrant
(including a FISA warrant) for wiretapping in connection
with "terrorist or domestic radicalization" surveillance

** Legalize warrantless wiretapping permanently and ex post facto

** remove any rationale for impeachment by endorsing Bush's crimes

** Permanently immunize telecoms for cooperating with the NSA
in illegal roving wiretaps of ALL US citizens using long
distance carriers

SO, DU Admins, where's the beef? Your customers are clearly distracted (by the primaries)
and will remain so as long as the teevee and Google News refuse to highlight this story
(save for Kieth Olbermann.)

A stickie thread is needed or there will be NO organized DU response and this bill WILL pass. Where's the stickie thread?

Or is DU embarassed of civil libertarians and does not want to be seen
as "defending terrorists" in an election year? Hmm?

Where's the stickie thread? Where's the OFFICIAL DU ALERT thread?

Either you guys are serious about constitutional issues,
or this is just a site for paid politicos to bash up on each other
and distract the American populace while this bill is being passed.

Rate it up if you agree.

I will ask on GD and GD: Politics until I get an answer.
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