babylonsister
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Wed Feb-13-08 09:23 PM
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| 19. Obama is less of a risk than HC. And McCain is really not that |
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beloved, especially among conservatives if you've been paying attention. The rethugs have the best of a bad lot with him. The thinking ones know what's happened in the past few years has been a disaster. Unless the election is rigged again, I just don't see McCain winning.
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| -Kerry had a 6% lead over Bush in March 2004 |
hill08 |
Feb-13-08 09:09 PM |
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There is NO COMPARISON between 2004 and now. People woke up |
babylonsister |
Feb-13-08 09:14 PM |
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Some people seem to think Hillary is running against Kerry! n/t |
ProSense |
Feb-13-08 09:15 PM |
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Where Do You Live |
abluelady |
Feb-13-08 09:17 PM |
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I live in TX, and yes, there are still some supporters out there, but they |
babylonsister |
Feb-13-08 09:20 PM |
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I'm An Old Lady |
abluelady |
Feb-13-08 09:28 PM |
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OK, but think about this. How many republicans are actually aware |
babylonsister |
Feb-13-08 09:33 PM |
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I Have To Share A Story With You |
abluelady |
Feb-13-08 09:37 PM |
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This AM on Cspans WA journal, 2 texas Repub voters called in..... |
DB1 |
Feb-13-08 09:47 PM |
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Thanks for sharing that, it's encouraging! nt |
babylonsister |
Feb-13-08 09:50 PM |
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that's not been my experience |
griffi94 |
Feb-13-08 09:42 PM |
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In Austin? I'm surprised. I'm in Houston, and there are far less than there |
babylonsister |
Feb-13-08 09:45 PM |
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what part of houston are you in |
griffi94 |
Feb-13-08 10:06 PM |
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We thought the same thing in 04 |
Freida5 |
Feb-13-08 09:17 PM |
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The difference is DEAN building party infrastructure McAuliffe let stay in collapse |
blm |
Feb-13-08 09:58 PM |
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If you believe that people woke up |
hill08 |
Feb-13-08 09:20 PM |
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Obama is less of a risk than HC. And McCain is really not that |
babylonsister |
Feb-13-08 09:23 PM |
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Sure they have. |
AX10 |
Feb-13-08 09:21 PM |
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Oh dear. Do you really think Bush is that unpopular? |
jlake |
Feb-13-08 09:23 PM |
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I don't think it, every poll I've seen in the past year+ shows how |
babylonsister |
Feb-13-08 09:24 PM |
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He's up at 35% nationally, and the way that those people are distributed still |
jlake |
Feb-13-08 09:26 PM |
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35%, wow, impressive. nt |
babylonsister |
Feb-13-08 09:30 PM |
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It's alot of people. |
jlake |
Feb-13-08 09:32 PM |
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2 out of 3 don't; THAT'S a lot of people. nt |
babylonsister |
Feb-13-08 09:37 PM |
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Yes, and I am glad that 2/3 or people have woken up - but |
jlake |
Feb-13-08 09:40 PM |
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yep |
griffi94 |
Feb-13-08 09:45 PM |
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I just don't understand... |
stillcool47 |
Feb-13-08 09:30 PM |
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No, Rove is so yesterday. It's the genius of Obama and his campaign, |
babylonsister |
Feb-13-08 09:35 PM |
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It is an amazing time... |
stillcool47 |
Feb-13-08 10:01 PM |
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But They Give McCain a Pass on All of That Because the MSM Says He's a "Maverick" |
AndyTiedye |
Feb-13-08 09:27 PM |
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McCain is all the rethugs have. He was the 'best' of a horrid bunch |
babylonsister |
Feb-13-08 09:40 PM |
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Yet, nothing substinative happens to Bush & Co. |
sjdnb |
Feb-13-08 09:39 PM |
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For a change, I'm with you. I fault the Congress for so much, but |
babylonsister |
Feb-13-08 09:44 PM |
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Wrong on so many levels I don't know where to begin |
thecatburgler |
Feb-13-08 09:17 PM |
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Can you honestly say that |
hill08 |
Feb-13-08 09:21 PM |
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People knew about his anti-war activism, POW work, and BCCI investigations |
thecatburgler |
Feb-13-08 09:24 PM |
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You are either... |
YvonneCa |
Feb-13-08 09:40 PM |
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If you think that the Repubs won't be 100 times worse |
Frances |
Feb-13-08 09:23 PM |
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Well I guess we just shouldn't run a candidate then. |
thecatburgler |
Feb-13-08 09:26 PM |
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It sounds as though you have the attitude |
Frances |
Feb-14-08 10:07 AM |
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Thank you... |
YvonneCa |
Feb-13-08 09:39 PM |
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here's that clip of Kerry on Cheers.... |
Magic Rat |
Feb-13-08 09:59 PM |
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And Dukakis was over 10 points ahead of the first Bush |
Frances |
Feb-13-08 09:20 PM |
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Kerry won the election in 2004 - would probably have been larger then 6%- |
KaryninMiami |
Feb-13-08 09:21 PM |
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all these articles |
hill08 |
Feb-13-08 09:23 PM |
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Why do they mean nothing? n/t |
YvonneCa |
Feb-13-08 09:42 PM |
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because winning a poll |
griffi94 |
Feb-13-08 09:49 PM |
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Clinton's DNC machine made sure 2004 was lost for ANY Dem. Kerry won and RNC stole it |
blm |
Feb-13-08 09:45 PM |
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So Hillary will lose by 10 points and Obama has a 50/50 shot? |
Tweed |
Feb-13-08 09:21 PM |
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If Clinton gets the nomination, it will be 2004 all over again but worse. |
GarbagemanLB |
Feb-13-08 09:22 PM |
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That's the whole point! She ISN'T holding her own! |
Bicoastal |
Feb-13-08 09:22 PM |
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Obama is a flavor of the month |
hill08 |
Feb-13-08 09:29 PM |
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I didn't know... |
YvonneCa |
Feb-13-08 09:44 PM |
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well, at least he wasn't...ahem...losing |
NormaR |
Feb-13-08 09:23 PM |
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She's not been vetted, there's plenty more out there. |
heraldsqure |
Feb-13-08 09:23 PM |
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and how about Obama, you want to talk about vetting |
theaxe7 |
Feb-13-08 09:25 PM |
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Not even close. Unless you want to offer some support that I'm not aware of... |
heraldsqure |
Feb-13-08 09:27 PM |
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dude, by November... |
theaxe7 |
Feb-13-08 09:30 PM |
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yer right |
griffi94 |
Feb-13-08 09:53 PM |
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remember we all thought the war would be a big issue in 2004 |
theaxe7 |
Feb-13-08 09:23 PM |
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I think you're wrong. It will be a defining issue between McCain and |
babylonsister |
Feb-13-08 09:36 PM |
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Of course polls can change... |
NMMatt |
Feb-13-08 09:23 PM |
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By the way... |
NMMatt |
Feb-13-08 09:27 PM |
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Heh, Kerry probably had a 6% lead over Bush when the election was stolen. |
1620rock |
Feb-13-08 09:28 PM |
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All true |
OzarkDem |
Feb-13-08 09:28 PM |
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But wouldn't you prefer... |
NMMatt |
Feb-13-08 09:33 PM |
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No, because the unknown candidate will quickly become known |
OzarkDem |
Feb-13-08 09:35 PM |
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Which is Obama |
NMMatt |
Feb-13-08 09:44 PM |
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no |
griffi94 |
Feb-13-08 10:01 PM |
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I agree that national polls between Obama vs McCain mean shit right now |
NJSecularist |
Feb-13-08 09:31 PM |
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Obama won't run out of money, and is not running against an incumbent |
stahbrett |
Feb-13-08 09:37 PM |
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Obama's campaign isn't ran by B-0fer-b Shrum either |
NJSecularist |
Feb-13-08 09:41 PM |
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The difference is a DNC that has rebuilt party infrastructure in states long collapsed |
blm |
Feb-13-08 09:55 PM |
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Plus a candidate who created his own infrastructure from scratch in many states (eom) |
stahbrett |
Feb-13-08 10:11 PM |
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heh...with a few wise men who put their existing networks at his disposal. |
blm |
Feb-13-08 10:24 PM |
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Kerry won. DNCs weakened infrastructure allowed RNC to steal it for Bush. |
blm |
Feb-13-08 09:42 PM |
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Have a heart... |
YvonneCa |
Feb-13-08 09:45 PM |
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Smooches back at you, kiddo. ;) |
blm |
Feb-13-08 09:54 PM |
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this is`t 2004 |
madrchsod |
Feb-13-08 09:46 PM |
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Exactly |
NMMatt |
Feb-13-08 09:50 PM |
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But Kerry won.. |
Webster Green |
Feb-13-08 09:59 PM |
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McCain isn't near the candidate Bush was |
BrentTaylor |
Feb-13-08 10:08 PM |
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