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102. Obama Is Very Polarizing Within DU and Democratic Ranks
In case you haven't noticed, there is a wide swath of people who are royally pissed off that BO is attacking fellow Dems via RW talking points.

Maybe someday you and other Obama supporters will get it.
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  -What is being learned tonight: Obama Is Not Seen As A Democrat berni_mccoy  Feb-12-08 07:28 PM   #0 
  - Keep telling yourself that. NT  MADem   Feb-12-08 07:30 PM   #1 
  - You must feel like  BrentTaylor   Feb-12-08 09:31 PM   #50 
     - ????  MADem   Feb-12-08 09:56 PM   #52 
     - Come on, you want some Obama fever.  Voltaire99   Feb-13-08 05:10 AM   #95 
        - Obama Fever!!! Obama Fever!!!Obama Fever!!!!  polpilot   Feb-13-08 07:24 AM   #106 
        - Bizarre...  niceypoo   Feb-13-08 02:49 PM   #178 
        - If America ends up lowering that fever with McCain ice, don't cry to me. NT  MADem   Feb-13-08 01:51 PM   #167 
           - From what I've heard,  Patchuli   Feb-13-08 06:57 PM   #191 
              - Overconfidence is dangerous.  MADem   Feb-13-08 07:25 PM   #194 
                 - I was an Edwards supporter  Patchuli   Feb-13-08 07:26 PM   #195 
     - Brent Taylor, we definitely will keep an eye on you in GE.  ACanadianLiberal   Feb-13-08 11:18 AM   #137 
        - Distasting?  BushDespiser12   Feb-13-08 11:36 AM   #141 
  - Agree 100% berni  shadowknows69   Feb-12-08 07:31 PM   #2 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Feb-12-08 07:32 PM   #3 
  - The cult meme is getting old.  backscatter712   Feb-12-08 07:33 PM   #9 
  - Sorry if the truth hurts you. Oh well..not my problem. The truth normally does hurt people engaged  journalist3072   Feb-12-08 07:34 PM   #13 
  - The truth that hurts you is learning your candidate isn't what America wants.  berni_mccoy   Feb-12-08 07:35 PM   #16 
  - Try to go one day without being a flaming hypocrite.  Forkboy   Feb-13-08 04:29 PM   #184 
     - That's why he's on my ignore list. n/t  L0oniX   Feb-13-08 06:06 PM   #188 
     - ...  sniffa   Feb-13-08 06:07 PM   #189 
  - But not half as old as the meme meme. n/t  QC   Feb-12-08 07:35 PM   #14 
  - hey man, this a better kool aid  boricua79   Feb-12-08 07:42 PM   #24 
     - !  Usrename   Feb-12-08 11:41 PM   #66 
     - Sorry, but I can't say the same for you.  Auntie Bush   Feb-13-08 02:25 PM   #176 
  - He's not polarizing is what it means. Hillary, sorry, is a polarizing candidate  Roland99   Feb-12-08 07:32 PM   #4 
  - Obama Is Very Polarizing Within DU and Democratic Ranks  Crisco   Feb-13-08 06:36 AM   #102 
  - WTF are you talking about? What right wing talking points exactly?  DWilliamsamh   Feb-13-08 11:00 AM   #133 
  - You are so correct.  DURHAM D   Feb-13-08 11:48 AM   # 
  - Oh, yes! I agree!  peacock   Feb-13-08 12:14 PM   #146 
  - What it seems it not necessarily the truth.  Sonnenschein   Feb-13-08 02:41 PM   #177 
     - Well, she deserves every bit of it. Time to dump the DLC!  Roland99   Feb-13-08 10:09 PM   #199 
  - You've never heard of raiding the other party's primary? n/t  QC   Feb-12-08 07:32 PM   #5 
  - Reading DU, it seems like no one has.  citizen_jane   Feb-12-08 07:47 PM   #34 
  - It's an old, old game: vote en masse in the other party's primary  QC   Feb-12-08 07:49 PM   #37 
  - It's why naive folks are so THRILLED that their candidate got WAY MORE VOTES than the GOP combined!!  MADem   Feb-12-08 10:01 PM   #53 
  - So, when Obama wins, it's because of crossover votes, but when Clinton wins, she just won?  EffieBlack   Feb-13-08 07:03 AM   #104 
  - Clinton is WINNING blue states. Not states where this sort of  MADem   Feb-13-08 01:50 PM   #166 
     - "New Rules"  EffieBlack   Feb-13-08 04:48 PM   #185 
        - We'll see what happens in November.  MADem   Feb-13-08 05:10 PM   #187 
  - with all due respect....  RazBerryBeret   Feb-13-08 12:18 PM   #147 
     - Excuse me? WTF does our PRIMARY system have to do with  MADem   Feb-13-08 01:46 PM   #165 
        - Exactly. This is the November scenario I fear.  libbygurl   Feb-13-08 02:14 PM   #172 
        - So are you claiming that Obama isn't inspiring people  dansolo   Feb-13-08 05:01 PM   #186 
        - Why don't you try reading what I write, and stop trying to suggest what I "claim."  MADem   Feb-13-08 07:28 PM   #196 
        - sorry 2 B confusing...  RazBerryBeret   Feb-13-08 11:16 PM   #201 
  - We Alaska Democrats used to do it up here all the time.  Blue_In_AK   Feb-12-08 10:15 PM   #59 
  - Are they ALL so naive, or have some raided DU as well as our primaries?  Jim Sagle   Feb-12-08 10:51 PM   #61 
  - I think it's the latter. n/t  QC   Feb-12-08 11:23 PM   #63 
  - They're not naive, they're blinded by HOPE!  TheDebbieDee   Feb-12-08 11:34 PM   #64 
  - It's both. Just like in the election> Some mess things up, others blindly follow  robbedvoter   Feb-13-08 05:33 AM   #99 
     - Agreed. nt  libbygurl   Feb-13-08 02:15 PM   #173 
  - But  miceelf   Feb-13-08 04:48 AM   #88 
  - You act as if the results  GMFORD   Feb-13-08 01:31 PM   #161 
  - Maybe the media's playing that game,  femmedem   Feb-12-08 09:09 PM   #45 
  - And when Rush and Hannity tell those folks to hold their noses and vote McCain, they will. NT  MADem   Feb-12-08 10:02 PM   #54 
     - oh, they won't even hold their noses  Skittles   Feb-13-08 04:40 AM   #85 
     - But Rush's people didn't vote for Obama  9119495   Feb-13-08 11:11 AM   #134 
        - And you know that, how? NT  MADem   Feb-13-08 01:43 PM   #163 
        - And you can't see this, why?  9119495   Feb-13-08 06:25 PM   #190 
           - This is SOP. I can't believe you've never heard of it.  MADem   Feb-13-08 08:08 PM   #198 
              - AHEM  9119495   Feb-14-08 08:00 AM   #202 
                 - It helps, you know, to READ what people write. You have not, by your answer.  MADem   Feb-14-08 12:59 PM   #204 
        - You sure about that? When hordes of Repubs are registering as Dems in the primaries?  libbygurl   Feb-13-08 02:16 PM   #174 
  - My concerns exactly...  susankh4   Feb-13-08 04:18 AM   #83 
  - To be sincere, I dont know  peacock   Feb-13-08 12:19 PM   #148 
  - I was in line to vote surrounded by Republicans at my precinct  kaygore   Feb-13-08 07:20 PM   #192 
  - He's a Shape Shifter  OzarkDem   Feb-12-08 07:32 PM   #6 
  - Reagan is a million miles from one of Obama's "heroes"  Capn Sunshine   Feb-12-08 07:42 PM   #25 
  - Privatizing Social Security  OzarkDem   Feb-13-08 04:47 AM   #87 
     - LOL  miceelf   Feb-13-08 04:50 AM   #89 
        - Check his economic advisors  OzarkDem   Feb-13-08 04:59 AM   #92 
           - Right  miceelf   Feb-13-08 05:23 AM   #97 
  - He shifted to the shape of the Democratic frontrunner in just a few weeks.  cottonseed   Feb-12-08 07:55 PM   #39 
  - You think republicans want the same things we want?  Beaverhausen   Feb-12-08 07:32 PM   #7 
  - Evidently:  Bluebear   Feb-12-08 07:34 PM   #12 
  - I honestly don't get it  Beaverhausen   Feb-12-08 07:38 PM   #19 
     - Compromise on gays & women, Compromise on healthcare. Compromise on Iraq...  Bluebear   Feb-12-08 07:40 PM   #22 
     - and all that compromise will get us nowhere  Beaverhausen   Feb-12-08 07:41 PM   #23 
     - You are CONFUSING compromise with showing the other side that our way is the way  berni_mccoy   Feb-12-08 08:06 PM   #40 
        - the truth about what?  Beaverhausen   Feb-12-08 08:16 PM   #41 
        - The truth is that Americans who call themselves Republicans are realizing  berni_mccoy   Feb-12-08 08:24 PM   #43 
           - Just like Bush  CatnHat   Feb-13-08 12:08 AM   #70 
           - Please don't compare Obama to Shrub  Chisox08   Feb-13-08 01:13 PM   #159 
           - i agree Cat!  bpeale   Feb-13-08 01:55 PM   #170 
           - This is the same memo we've been getting for over 20 years  rpannier   Feb-13-08 06:04 AM   #100 
        - OMG, now I see.  juajen   Feb-12-08 08:36 PM   #44 
        - You won't be able to do it with an attitude of anger and bitterness... and that is why many  berni_mccoy   Feb-12-08 09:28 PM   #46 
           - United democracy? He can't even unite our PARTY.  nonconformist   Feb-13-08 01:16 AM   #80 
           - Yet when the republikkans are angry and spiteful they got those  rpannier   Feb-13-08 08:14 AM   #111 
        - That's not what he is doing, though. He's triangulating, without specifics,  MADem   Feb-12-08 10:06 PM   #56 
        - Can you honestly tell me you've tried to read his policies.  berni_mccoy   Feb-12-08 11:22 PM   #62 
        - I've read his stuff and listened to his stump speech a dozen or more times.  MADem   Feb-13-08 12:04 AM   #68 
        - "he's triangulating, without specifics" now that would be a trick!,  rodeodance   Feb-13-08 12:10 AM   #71 
           - LOL @triangulating  miceelf   Feb-13-08 04:52 AM   #90 
        - OMG.....  BlackVelvet04   Feb-13-08 12:19 AM   #74 
        - What did JFK achieve legislatively?  jackson_dem   Feb-13-08 05:01 AM   #93 
     - Hey hey bluebear,  mahina   Feb-13-08 02:20 AM   #81 
     - I am now reserving the right ....  susankh4   Feb-13-08 04:20 AM   #84 
     - Oops... here's the active link:  susankh4   Feb-13-08 06:26 AM   #101 
     - he doesn't want to compromise on gays, he wants them deprogrammed!  bpeale   Feb-13-08 01:54 PM   #169 
     - here's obama's goals  bpeale   Feb-13-08 01:53 PM   #168 
  - No, they don't  OzarkDem   Feb-12-08 07:39 PM   #20 
  - Apparently so  lastliberalintexas   Feb-12-08 10:08 PM   #58 
  - Yeah, the Republicans are all going to roll over and give Obama what he wants  BuffyTheFundieSlayer   Feb-12-08 10:15 PM   #60 
  - Yes. That's just how magical he is!  Harvey Korman   Feb-13-08 08:00 PM   #197 
  - Yes  dmesg   Feb-13-08 10:27 AM   #129 
  - kick for a good analysis.  Bread and Circus   Feb-12-08 07:33 PM   #8 
  - no analysis in OP--lots of stringing together of phases-part bible,part founding farther. ect  rodeodance   Feb-13-08 12:07 AM   #69 
  - Off to the greatest page with you. k&r  LeviathanCrumbling   Feb-12-08 07:33 PM   #10 
  - Obama is the best candidate we've run in eons.  Magic Rat   Feb-12-08 07:33 PM   #11 
  - tell the truth; you'd never even heard of him a year ago, had you? nt  VotesForWomen   Feb-13-08 12:54 AM   #79 
     - I'm pretty sure since at least 2004  sniffa   Feb-13-08 05:05 AM   #94 
     - I'm a Chicagoan, and have known about him for years.  grace0418   Feb-13-08 10:16 AM   #126 
  - yep, glad to see this...  meow mix   Feb-12-08 07:35 PM   #15 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Feb-12-08 07:37 PM   #17 
  - Don't kid yourself.  smiley_glad_hands   Feb-12-08 07:38 PM   #18 
  - Good call...  BeatleBoot   Feb-12-08 07:42 PM   #26 
  - at this point in time, you must realize the for some people...  islandmkl   Feb-12-08 07:39 PM   #21 
  - The Chorus of Cynics is screaming tonight LOL!  berni_mccoy   Feb-12-08 07:45 PM   #29 
  - I sure don't see him as a Democrat.  jlake   Feb-12-08 07:43 PM   #27 
  - Agreed! nt  Raine   Feb-12-08 07:43 PM   #28 
  - He's seen as a LEADER. That's why he's such a huge hit.  TheWraith   Feb-12-08 07:45 PM   #30 
  - Kennedy liberal? Not so much. eom  greyghost   Feb-12-08 07:51 PM   #38 
  - a hit?--like a rock star--no thanks. We need someone who can help solve a whole  rodeodance   Feb-13-08 12:12 AM   #72 
  - well said  mopinko   Feb-12-08 07:45 PM   #31 
  - well said  mopinko   Feb-12-08 07:45 PM   #32 
  - I agree. He has transcended the D v. R paradigm, and it's huge.  TexasObserver   Feb-12-08 07:46 PM   #33 
  - transending to where? to what? I really do not know.  rodeodance   Feb-13-08 12:15 AM   #73 
     - transcending to a far better world out there...  QC   Feb-13-08 12:22 AM   #76 
  - Nominated.  H2O Man   Feb-12-08 07:47 PM   #35 
  - Partisans: if you sip their drink it is fine wine, all other's is kool aide.  elocs   Feb-12-08 07:48 PM   #36 
  - Obama marginalized himself  CatnHat   Feb-13-08 11:03 PM   #200 
  - K&R! Obama's ability to unite is exactly what America needs.  backscatter712   Feb-12-08 08:23 PM   #42 
  - Obama Republicans?  krabigirl   Feb-12-08 10:05 PM   #55 
  - Yeah. Obama Republicans.  backscatter712   Feb-12-08 10:07 PM   #57 
  - impressions  bpeale   Feb-13-08 02:09 PM   #171 
  - He will be the greatest U.S. president - the transformational president!  yeswecan08   Feb-12-08 09:30 PM   #47 
  - I'm also having problems seeing Obama as a black man. I see him as just a man.  Wizard777   Feb-12-08 09:31 PM   #48 
  - Right, but eventually....  Altec   Feb-12-08 09:31 PM   #49 
  - Far left, my ASS. Back to Freeperville with you.  Jim Sagle   Feb-12-08 11:37 PM   #65 
  - berni_mccoy, I like you.  David Zephyr   Feb-12-08 09:31 PM   #51 
  - As do I, I have no horse in this race but it long past due to have someone who embodies hope  buzzard   Feb-12-08 11:58 PM   #67 
  - It's easy to talk about unity when the fight against the Republicans hasn't even started  jasonkrueger   Feb-13-08 12:21 AM   #75 
  - So, if you are a candidate that doesn't want to bond with Republicans  BlueStateGirl   Feb-13-08 12:23 AM   #77 
  - "I'm a uniter, not a divider." - W. how many times will people fall for this tripe? nt  VotesForWomen   Feb-13-08 12:53 AM   #78 
  - Junior never brought the constituencies together that Obama is.  sfexpat2000   Feb-13-08 02:26 AM   #82 
     - Agree -- Dubya never pulled it all together. Consensus appeal is not his  Old Crusoe   Feb-13-08 07:57 AM   #110 
        - That may be half of Obama's appeal.  sfexpat2000   Feb-13-08 11:42 AM   #142 
  - I just hope he lives up to the rhetoric.  shaniqua6392   Feb-13-08 04:44 AM   #86 
  - Obama's first coming. Some interesting questions related to comments here:  rodeodance   Feb-13-08 04:56 AM   #91 
     - This is what I have been afraid of.  shaniqua6392   Feb-13-08 05:21 AM   #96 
  - And, this is a good thing now? Bookmarked! Viva el bipartisanship! No wonder Daschle is in it too!  robbedvoter   Feb-13-08 05:25 AM   #98 
  - With Pelosi in the wings too.  Rockholm   Feb-13-08 06:58 AM   #103 
  - I think you've nailed it there.  Ian_rd   Feb-13-08 07:21 AM   #105 
  - Down with the democratic party! let's dismantle it and embrace or brothers GOP!  robbedvoter   Feb-13-08 07:25 AM   #107 
     - You must have responded to my post by accident ...  Ian_rd   Feb-13-08 07:33 AM   #109 
  - Obama is the first candidate of the New Republican-Democrat Party.  MethuenProgressive   Feb-13-08 07:27 AM   #108 
  - True that! I am voting Democrat in Novemeber - one way or another  robbedvoter   Feb-13-08 08:56 AM   #115 
  - You are so Right (pun intended)  jjr   Feb-13-08 08:18 AM   #112 
  - Some of you are effing nuts. eom  smiley_glad_hands   Feb-13-08 08:19 AM   #113 
  - So how are long-time Democrats/advocates going to feel  Horse with no Name   Feb-13-08 08:21 AM   #114 
  - He won't. He's going to show Republican voters why a non-Republican Judge would be better  berni_mccoy   Feb-13-08 09:33 AM   #117 
     - You don't KNOW that. Neither do I. You can expect after ALL of his  Horse with no Name   Feb-13-08 09:49 AM   #119 
        - He's already shown Republicans that a Democratic President could be a great choice for them  berni_mccoy   Feb-13-08 09:57 AM   #121 
           - So let me get this straight  Horse with no Name   Feb-13-08 10:09 AM   #123 
           - I think it's more like...  backscatter712   Feb-13-08 10:21 AM   #128 
              - What it is  Horse with no Name   Feb-13-08 10:35 AM   #130 
                 - Let me give the choices we have.  backscatter712   Feb-13-08 11:12 AM   #135 
                    - How is that working out for the GLBT community?  Horse with no Name   Feb-13-08 11:15 AM   #136 
                       - I don't know about you, but I have no intention of throwing the GLBT community under the bus.  backscatter712   Feb-13-08 11:18 AM   #138 
                          - Not with the likes of McClurkin lurking. n/t  Horse with no Name   Feb-13-08 11:27 AM   #140 
           - I used to doubt this fact, seing how GOP-ers are, but now I realized you are right:  robbedvoter   Feb-13-08 10:15 AM   #125 
  - It's good you got all the new friends - GOP, indies - you won't need Hillary's voters  robbedvoter   Feb-13-08 08:58 AM   #116 
  - He's got her voters too. Don't confuse crossover with switching sides.  berni_mccoy   Feb-13-08 09:34 AM   #118 
     - Problem is - her voters are democrats, wanting to vote democratic - not bipartisan  robbedvoter   Feb-13-08 10:14 AM   #124 
        - If she doesn't want indie and repub voters then she will never win.  berni_mccoy   Feb-13-08 12:41 PM   #154 
           - Indie, GOP voters only corssed over to mess up our primary - they'll vote GOP  robbedvoter   Feb-13-08 01:28 PM   #160 
              - Now THAT's some great Koolaide. Is that the Conspiracy flavor?  berni_mccoy   Feb-13-08 01:31 PM   #162 
                 - No, that's the REALITY. Repubs are NOT naive,  libbygurl   Feb-13-08 03:33 PM   #182 
  - It's certainly working on me.  QC   Feb-13-08 09:49 AM   #120 
  - The irony of your divisive post eludes you.  berni_mccoy   Feb-13-08 10:02 AM   #122 
  - You want a "far left" perspective. Here's one:  jaybeat   Feb-13-08 12:27 PM   #150 
  - some of them are former Edwards supporters  hfojvt   Feb-13-08 10:49 AM   #132 
  - Obama should run as an Independent  publicatlarge   Feb-13-08 10:21 AM   #127 
  - you are so right.  Laura PackYourBags   Feb-13-08 10:36 AM   #131 
  - I can't wait to see the look on your smug little face  tbl92666   Feb-13-08 11:19 AM   #139 
  - For change we need more Dems in Senate&House so why did...  Oskie   Feb-13-08 11:48 AM   #143 
  - WOOHOO>....the center has moved --OBAMA IS A CENTRIST!!!!!!  happygoluckytoyou   Feb-13-08 12:02 PM   #144 
  - Maybe that's the key.  backscatter712   Feb-13-08 12:29 PM   #151 
  - Good luck!  peacock   Feb-13-08 12:11 PM   #145 
  - I find it surprising that the same people that want our Dems to stand strong against  pirhana   Feb-13-08 12:19 PM   #149 
  - "makes it no secret that he is willing to reach out to the repugs." You're confusing Obama with  ProSense   Feb-13-08 12:34 PM   #152 
     - It seems hard for the Clinton supporters to get this. Maybe because Clinton caved on so much  berni_mccoy   Feb-13-08 12:39 PM   #153 
     - Are you insulting Bill Clinton's presidency?  pirhana   Feb-13-08 12:44 PM   #156 
        - Bill Bradley on  ProSense   Feb-13-08 12:48 PM   #157 
     - all I see is ignore-  pirhana   Feb-13-08 12:42 PM   #155 
        - It's too bad. They have a great point.  berni_mccoy   Feb-13-08 12:57 PM   #158 
  - @ =  Sees Clearly   Feb-13-08 01:45 PM   #164 
  - He's all things to everyone - even the Repubs like him (not), so...  libbygurl   Feb-13-08 02:23 PM   #175 
  - Appealing to those outside your base isn't naive, it's practical. n/t  sfexpat2000   Feb-13-08 03:04 PM   #179 
     - And do you seriously think those Repubs-turned-Dems will vote for him, too, in  libbygurl   Feb-13-08 03:30 PM   #181 
        - Yes, they will and you couldn't sell me water in the desert.  sfexpat2000   Feb-13-08 03:38 PM   #183 
        - Yes, in Virginia they will  kaygore   Feb-13-08 07:23 PM   #193 
  - No, Obama is a way for 'moderates' to avoid admitting they fucked us twice  sampsonblk   Feb-13-08 03:10 PM   #180 
  - Sorry, but I'm not feeling the hope.  LWolf   Feb-14-08 08:08 AM   #203 
 

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