| 41. the truth about what? |
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tell me, what issues is Obama winning the republicans with?
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| -What is being learned tonight: Obama Is Not Seen As A Democrat |
berni_mccoy |
Feb-12-08 07:28 PM |
#0 |
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Keep telling yourself that. NT |
MADem |
Feb-12-08 07:30 PM |
#1 |
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You must feel like |
BrentTaylor |
Feb-12-08 09:31 PM |
#50 |
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???? |
MADem |
Feb-12-08 09:56 PM |
#52 |
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Come on, you want some Obama fever. |
Voltaire99 |
Feb-13-08 05:10 AM |
#95 |
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Obama Fever!!! Obama Fever!!!Obama Fever!!!! |
polpilot |
Feb-13-08 07:24 AM |
#106 |
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Bizarre... |
niceypoo |
Feb-13-08 02:49 PM |
#178 |
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If America ends up lowering that fever with McCain ice, don't cry to me. NT |
MADem |
Feb-13-08 01:51 PM |
#167 |
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From what I've heard, |
Patchuli |
Feb-13-08 06:57 PM |
#191 |
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Overconfidence is dangerous. |
MADem |
Feb-13-08 07:25 PM |
#194 |
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I was an Edwards supporter |
Patchuli |
Feb-13-08 07:26 PM |
#195 |
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Brent Taylor, we definitely will keep an eye on you in GE. |
ACanadianLiberal |
Feb-13-08 11:18 AM |
#137 |
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Distasting? |
BushDespiser12 |
Feb-13-08 11:36 AM |
#141 |
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Agree 100% berni |
shadowknows69 |
Feb-12-08 07:31 PM |
#2 |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Feb-12-08 07:32 PM |
#3 |
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The cult meme is getting old. |
backscatter712 |
Feb-12-08 07:33 PM |
#9 |
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Sorry if the truth hurts you. Oh well..not my problem. The truth normally does hurt people engaged |
journalist3072 |
Feb-12-08 07:34 PM |
#13 |
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The truth that hurts you is learning your candidate isn't what America wants. |
berni_mccoy |
Feb-12-08 07:35 PM |
#16 |
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Try to go one day without being a flaming hypocrite. |
Forkboy |
Feb-13-08 04:29 PM |
#184 |
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That's why he's on my ignore list. n/t |
L0oniX |
Feb-13-08 06:06 PM |
#188 |
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... |
sniffa |
Feb-13-08 06:07 PM |
#189 |
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But not half as old as the meme meme. n/t |
QC |
Feb-12-08 07:35 PM |
#14 |
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hey man, this a better kool aid |
boricua79 |
Feb-12-08 07:42 PM |
#24 |
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! |
Usrename |
Feb-12-08 11:41 PM |
#66 |
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Sorry, but I can't say the same for you. |
Auntie Bush |
Feb-13-08 02:25 PM |
#176 |
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He's not polarizing is what it means. Hillary, sorry, is a polarizing candidate |
Roland99 |
Feb-12-08 07:32 PM |
#4 |
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Obama Is Very Polarizing Within DU and Democratic Ranks |
Crisco |
Feb-13-08 06:36 AM |
#102 |
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WTF are you talking about? What right wing talking points exactly? |
DWilliamsamh |
Feb-13-08 11:00 AM |
#133 |
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You are so correct. |
DURHAM D |
Feb-13-08 11:48 AM |
# |
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Oh, yes! I agree! |
peacock |
Feb-13-08 12:14 PM |
#146 |
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What it seems it not necessarily the truth. |
Sonnenschein |
Feb-13-08 02:41 PM |
#177 |
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Well, she deserves every bit of it. Time to dump the DLC! |
Roland99 |
Feb-13-08 10:09 PM |
#199 |
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You've never heard of raiding the other party's primary? n/t |
QC |
Feb-12-08 07:32 PM |
#5 |
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Reading DU, it seems like no one has. |
citizen_jane |
Feb-12-08 07:47 PM |
#34 |
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It's an old, old game: vote en masse in the other party's primary |
QC |
Feb-12-08 07:49 PM |
#37 |
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It's why naive folks are so THRILLED that their candidate got WAY MORE VOTES than the GOP combined!! |
MADem |
Feb-12-08 10:01 PM |
#53 |
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So, when Obama wins, it's because of crossover votes, but when Clinton wins, she just won? |
EffieBlack |
Feb-13-08 07:03 AM |
#104 |
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Clinton is WINNING blue states. Not states where this sort of |
MADem |
Feb-13-08 01:50 PM |
#166 |
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"New Rules" |
EffieBlack |
Feb-13-08 04:48 PM |
#185 |
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We'll see what happens in November. |
MADem |
Feb-13-08 05:10 PM |
#187 |
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with all due respect.... |
RazBerryBeret |
Feb-13-08 12:18 PM |
#147 |
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Excuse me? WTF does our PRIMARY system have to do with |
MADem |
Feb-13-08 01:46 PM |
#165 |
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Exactly. This is the November scenario I fear. |
libbygurl |
Feb-13-08 02:14 PM |
#172 |
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So are you claiming that Obama isn't inspiring people |
dansolo |
Feb-13-08 05:01 PM |
#186 |
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Why don't you try reading what I write, and stop trying to suggest what I "claim." |
MADem |
Feb-13-08 07:28 PM |
#196 |
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sorry 2 B confusing... |
RazBerryBeret |
Feb-13-08 11:16 PM |
#201 |
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We Alaska Democrats used to do it up here all the time. |
Blue_In_AK |
Feb-12-08 10:15 PM |
#59 |
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Are they ALL so naive, or have some raided DU as well as our primaries? |
Jim Sagle |
Feb-12-08 10:51 PM |
#61 |
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I think it's the latter. n/t |
QC |
Feb-12-08 11:23 PM |
#63 |
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They're not naive, they're blinded by HOPE! |
TheDebbieDee |
Feb-12-08 11:34 PM |
#64 |
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It's both. Just like in the election> Some mess things up, others blindly follow |
robbedvoter |
Feb-13-08 05:33 AM |
#99 |
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Agreed. nt |
libbygurl |
Feb-13-08 02:15 PM |
#173 |
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But |
miceelf |
Feb-13-08 04:48 AM |
#88 |
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You act as if the results |
GMFORD |
Feb-13-08 01:31 PM |
#161 |
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Maybe the media's playing that game, |
femmedem |
Feb-12-08 09:09 PM |
#45 |
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And when Rush and Hannity tell those folks to hold their noses and vote McCain, they will. NT |
MADem |
Feb-12-08 10:02 PM |
#54 |
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oh, they won't even hold their noses |
Skittles |
Feb-13-08 04:40 AM |
#85 |
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But Rush's people didn't vote for Obama |
9119495 |
Feb-13-08 11:11 AM |
#134 |
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And you know that, how? NT |
MADem |
Feb-13-08 01:43 PM |
#163 |
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And you can't see this, why? |
9119495 |
Feb-13-08 06:25 PM |
#190 |
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This is SOP. I can't believe you've never heard of it. |
MADem |
Feb-13-08 08:08 PM |
#198 |
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AHEM |
9119495 |
Feb-14-08 08:00 AM |
#202 |
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It helps, you know, to READ what people write. You have not, by your answer. |
MADem |
Feb-14-08 12:59 PM |
#204 |
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You sure about that? When hordes of Repubs are registering as Dems in the primaries? |
libbygurl |
Feb-13-08 02:16 PM |
#174 |
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My concerns exactly... |
susankh4 |
Feb-13-08 04:18 AM |
#83 |
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To be sincere, I don´t know |
peacock |
Feb-13-08 12:19 PM |
#148 |
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I was in line to vote surrounded by Republicans at my precinct |
kaygore |
Feb-13-08 07:20 PM |
#192 |
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He's a Shape Shifter |
OzarkDem |
Feb-12-08 07:32 PM |
#6 |
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Reagan is a million miles from one of Obama's "heroes" |
Capn Sunshine |
Feb-12-08 07:42 PM |
#25 |
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Privatizing Social Security |
OzarkDem |
Feb-13-08 04:47 AM |
#87 |
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LOL |
miceelf |
Feb-13-08 04:50 AM |
#89 |
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Check his economic advisors |
OzarkDem |
Feb-13-08 04:59 AM |
#92 |
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Right |
miceelf |
Feb-13-08 05:23 AM |
#97 |
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He shifted to the shape of the Democratic frontrunner in just a few weeks. |
cottonseed |
Feb-12-08 07:55 PM |
#39 |
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You think republicans want the same things we want? |
Beaverhausen |
Feb-12-08 07:32 PM |
#7 |
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Evidently: |
Bluebear |
Feb-12-08 07:34 PM |
#12 |
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I honestly don't get it |
Beaverhausen |
Feb-12-08 07:38 PM |
#19 |
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Compromise on gays & women, Compromise on healthcare. Compromise on Iraq... |
Bluebear |
Feb-12-08 07:40 PM |
#22 |
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and all that compromise will get us nowhere |
Beaverhausen |
Feb-12-08 07:41 PM |
#23 |
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You are CONFUSING compromise with showing the other side that our way is the way |
berni_mccoy |
Feb-12-08 08:06 PM |
#40 |
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the truth about what? |
Beaverhausen |
Feb-12-08 08:16 PM |
#41 |
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The truth is that Americans who call themselves Republicans are realizing |
berni_mccoy |
Feb-12-08 08:24 PM |
#43 |
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Just like Bush |
CatnHat |
Feb-13-08 12:08 AM |
#70 |
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Please don't compare Obama to Shrub |
Chisox08 |
Feb-13-08 01:13 PM |
#159 |
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i agree Cat! |
bpeale |
Feb-13-08 01:55 PM |
#170 |
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This is the same memo we've been getting for over 20 years |
rpannier |
Feb-13-08 06:04 AM |
#100 |
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OMG, now I see. |
juajen |
Feb-12-08 08:36 PM |
#44 |
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You won't be able to do it with an attitude of anger and bitterness... and that is why many |
berni_mccoy |
Feb-12-08 09:28 PM |
#46 |
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United democracy? He can't even unite our PARTY. |
nonconformist |
Feb-13-08 01:16 AM |
#80 |
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Yet when the republikkans are angry and spiteful they got those |
rpannier |
Feb-13-08 08:14 AM |
#111 |
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That's not what he is doing, though. He's triangulating, without specifics, |
MADem |
Feb-12-08 10:06 PM |
#56 |
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Can you honestly tell me you've tried to read his policies. |
berni_mccoy |
Feb-12-08 11:22 PM |
#62 |
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I've read his stuff and listened to his stump speech a dozen or more times. |
MADem |
Feb-13-08 12:04 AM |
#68 |
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"he's triangulating, without specifics" now that would be a trick!, |
rodeodance |
Feb-13-08 12:10 AM |
#71 |
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LOL @triangulating |
miceelf |
Feb-13-08 04:52 AM |
#90 |
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OMG..... |
BlackVelvet04 |
Feb-13-08 12:19 AM |
#74 |
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What did JFK achieve legislatively? |
jackson_dem |
Feb-13-08 05:01 AM |
#93 |
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Hey hey bluebear, |
mahina |
Feb-13-08 02:20 AM |
#81 |
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I am now reserving the right .... |
susankh4 |
Feb-13-08 04:20 AM |
#84 |
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Oops... here's the active link: |
susankh4 |
Feb-13-08 06:26 AM |
#101 |
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he doesn't want to compromise on gays, he wants them deprogrammed! |
bpeale |
Feb-13-08 01:54 PM |
#169 |
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here's obama's goals |
bpeale |
Feb-13-08 01:53 PM |
#168 |
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No, they don't |
OzarkDem |
Feb-12-08 07:39 PM |
#20 |
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Apparently so |
lastliberalintexas |
Feb-12-08 10:08 PM |
#58 |
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Yeah, the Republicans are all going to roll over and give Obama what he wants |
BuffyTheFundieSlayer |
Feb-12-08 10:15 PM |
#60 |
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Yes. That's just how magical he is! |
Harvey Korman |
Feb-13-08 08:00 PM |
#197 |
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Yes |
dmesg |
Feb-13-08 10:27 AM |
#129 |
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kick for a good analysis. |
Bread and Circus |
Feb-12-08 07:33 PM |
#8 |
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no analysis in OP--lots of stringing together of phases-part bible,part founding farther. ect |
rodeodance |
Feb-13-08 12:07 AM |
#69 |
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Off to the greatest page with you. k&r |
LeviathanCrumbling |
Feb-12-08 07:33 PM |
#10 |
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Obama is the best candidate we've run in eons. |
Magic Rat |
Feb-12-08 07:33 PM |
#11 |
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tell the truth; you'd never even heard of him a year ago, had you? nt |
VotesForWomen |
Feb-13-08 12:54 AM |
#79 |
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I'm pretty sure since at least 2004 |
sniffa |
Feb-13-08 05:05 AM |
#94 |
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I'm a Chicagoan, and have known about him for years. |
grace0418 |
Feb-13-08 10:16 AM |
#126 |
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yep, glad to see this... |
meow mix |
Feb-12-08 07:35 PM |
#15 |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Feb-12-08 07:37 PM |
#17 |
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Don't kid yourself. |
smiley_glad_hands |
Feb-12-08 07:38 PM |
#18 |
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Good call... |
BeatleBoot |
Feb-12-08 07:42 PM |
#26 |
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at this point in time, you must realize the for some people... |
islandmkl |
Feb-12-08 07:39 PM |
#21 |
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The Chorus of Cynics is screaming tonight LOL! |
berni_mccoy |
Feb-12-08 07:45 PM |
#29 |
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I sure don't see him as a Democrat. |
jlake |
Feb-12-08 07:43 PM |
#27 |
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Agreed! nt |
Raine |
Feb-12-08 07:43 PM |
#28 |
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He's seen as a LEADER. That's why he's such a huge hit. |
TheWraith |
Feb-12-08 07:45 PM |
#30 |
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Kennedy liberal? Not so much. eom |
greyghost |
Feb-12-08 07:51 PM |
#38 |
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a hit?--like a rock star--no thanks. We need someone who can help solve a whole |
rodeodance |
Feb-13-08 12:12 AM |
#72 |
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well said |
mopinko |
Feb-12-08 07:45 PM |
#31 |
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well said |
mopinko |
Feb-12-08 07:45 PM |
#32 |
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I agree. He has transcended the D v. R paradigm, and it's huge. |
TexasObserver |
Feb-12-08 07:46 PM |
#33 |
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transending to where? to what? I really do not know. |
rodeodance |
Feb-13-08 12:15 AM |
#73 |
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transcending to a far better world out there... |
QC |
Feb-13-08 12:22 AM |
#76 |
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Nominated. |
H2O Man |
Feb-12-08 07:47 PM |
#35 |
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Partisans: if you sip their drink it is fine wine, all other's is kool aide. |
elocs |
Feb-12-08 07:48 PM |
#36 |
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Obama marginalized himself |
CatnHat |
Feb-13-08 11:03 PM |
#200 |
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K&R! Obama's ability to unite is exactly what America needs. |
backscatter712 |
Feb-12-08 08:23 PM |
#42 |
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Obama Republicans? |
krabigirl |
Feb-12-08 10:05 PM |
#55 |
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Yeah. Obama Republicans. |
backscatter712 |
Feb-12-08 10:07 PM |
#57 |
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impressions |
bpeale |
Feb-13-08 02:09 PM |
#171 |
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He will be the greatest U.S. president - the transformational president! |
yeswecan08 |
Feb-12-08 09:30 PM |
#47 |
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I'm also having problems seeing Obama as a black man. I see him as just a man. |
Wizard777 |
Feb-12-08 09:31 PM |
#48 |
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Right, but eventually.... |
Altec |
Feb-12-08 09:31 PM |
#49 |
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Far left, my ASS. Back to Freeperville with you. |
Jim Sagle |
Feb-12-08 11:37 PM |
#65 |
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berni_mccoy, I like you. |
David Zephyr |
Feb-12-08 09:31 PM |
#51 |
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As do I, I have no horse in this race but it long past due to have someone who embodies hope |
buzzard |
Feb-12-08 11:58 PM |
#67 |
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It's easy to talk about unity when the fight against the Republicans hasn't even started |
jasonkrueger |
Feb-13-08 12:21 AM |
#75 |
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So, if you are a candidate that doesn't want to bond with Republicans |
BlueStateGirl |
Feb-13-08 12:23 AM |
#77 |
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"I'm a uniter, not a divider." - W. how many times will people fall for this tripe? nt |
VotesForWomen |
Feb-13-08 12:53 AM |
#78 |
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Junior never brought the constituencies together that Obama is. |
sfexpat2000 |
Feb-13-08 02:26 AM |
#82 |
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Agree -- Dubya never pulled it all together. Consensus appeal is not his |
Old Crusoe |
Feb-13-08 07:57 AM |
#110 |
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That may be half of Obama's appeal. |
sfexpat2000 |
Feb-13-08 11:42 AM |
#142 |
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I just hope he lives up to the rhetoric. |
shaniqua6392 |
Feb-13-08 04:44 AM |
#86 |
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Obama's first coming. Some interesting questions related to comments here: |
rodeodance |
Feb-13-08 04:56 AM |
#91 |
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This is what I have been afraid of. |
shaniqua6392 |
Feb-13-08 05:21 AM |
#96 |
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And, this is a good thing now? Bookmarked! Viva el bipartisanship! No wonder Daschle is in it too! |
robbedvoter |
Feb-13-08 05:25 AM |
#98 |
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With Pelosi in the wings too. |
Rockholm |
Feb-13-08 06:58 AM |
#103 |
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I think you've nailed it there. |
Ian_rd |
Feb-13-08 07:21 AM |
#105 |
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Down with the democratic party! let's dismantle it and embrace or brothers GOP! |
robbedvoter |
Feb-13-08 07:25 AM |
#107 |
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You must have responded to my post by accident ... |
Ian_rd |
Feb-13-08 07:33 AM |
#109 |
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Obama is the first candidate of the New Republican-Democrat Party. |
MethuenProgressive |
Feb-13-08 07:27 AM |
#108 |
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True that! I am voting Democrat in Novemeber - one way or another |
robbedvoter |
Feb-13-08 08:56 AM |
#115 |
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You are so Right (pun intended) |
jjr |
Feb-13-08 08:18 AM |
#112 |
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Some of you are effing nuts. eom |
smiley_glad_hands |
Feb-13-08 08:19 AM |
#113 |
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So how are long-time Democrats/advocates going to feel |
Horse with no Name |
Feb-13-08 08:21 AM |
#114 |
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He won't. He's going to show Republican voters why a non-Republican Judge would be better |
berni_mccoy |
Feb-13-08 09:33 AM |
#117 |
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You don't KNOW that. Neither do I. You can expect after ALL of his |
Horse with no Name |
Feb-13-08 09:49 AM |
#119 |
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He's already shown Republicans that a Democratic President could be a great choice for them |
berni_mccoy |
Feb-13-08 09:57 AM |
#121 |
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So let me get this straight |
Horse with no Name |
Feb-13-08 10:09 AM |
#123 |
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I think it's more like... |
backscatter712 |
Feb-13-08 10:21 AM |
#128 |
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What it is |
Horse with no Name |
Feb-13-08 10:35 AM |
#130 |
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Let me give the choices we have. |
backscatter712 |
Feb-13-08 11:12 AM |
#135 |
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How is that working out for the GLBT community? |
Horse with no Name |
Feb-13-08 11:15 AM |
#136 |
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I don't know about you, but I have no intention of throwing the GLBT community under the bus. |
backscatter712 |
Feb-13-08 11:18 AM |
#138 |
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Not with the likes of McClurkin lurking. n/t |
Horse with no Name |
Feb-13-08 11:27 AM |
#140 |
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I used to doubt this fact, seing how GOP-ers are, but now I realized you are right: |
robbedvoter |
Feb-13-08 10:15 AM |
#125 |
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It's good you got all the new friends - GOP, indies - you won't need Hillary's voters |
robbedvoter |
Feb-13-08 08:58 AM |
#116 |
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He's got her voters too. Don't confuse crossover with switching sides. |
berni_mccoy |
Feb-13-08 09:34 AM |
#118 |
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Problem is - her voters are democrats, wanting to vote democratic - not bipartisan |
robbedvoter |
Feb-13-08 10:14 AM |
#124 |
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If she doesn't want indie and repub voters then she will never win. |
berni_mccoy |
Feb-13-08 12:41 PM |
#154 |
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Indie, GOP voters only corssed over to mess up our primary - they'll vote GOP |
robbedvoter |
Feb-13-08 01:28 PM |
#160 |
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Now THAT's some great Koolaide. Is that the Conspiracy flavor? |
berni_mccoy |
Feb-13-08 01:31 PM |
#162 |
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No, that's the REALITY. Repubs are NOT naive, |
libbygurl |
Feb-13-08 03:33 PM |
#182 |
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It's certainly working on me. |
QC |
Feb-13-08 09:49 AM |
#120 |
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The irony of your divisive post eludes you. |
berni_mccoy |
Feb-13-08 10:02 AM |
#122 |
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You want a "far left" perspective. Here's one: |
jaybeat |
Feb-13-08 12:27 PM |
#150 |
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some of them are former Edwards supporters |
hfojvt |
Feb-13-08 10:49 AM |
#132 |
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Obama should run as an Independent |
publicatlarge |
Feb-13-08 10:21 AM |
#127 |
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you are so right. |
Laura PackYourBags |
Feb-13-08 10:36 AM |
#131 |
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I can't wait to see the look on your smug little face |
tbl92666 |
Feb-13-08 11:19 AM |
#139 |
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For change we need more Dems in Senate&House so why did... |
Oskie |
Feb-13-08 11:48 AM |
#143 |
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WOOHOO>....the center has moved --OBAMA IS A CENTRIST!!!!!! |
happygoluckytoyou |
Feb-13-08 12:02 PM |
#144 |
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Maybe that's the key. |
backscatter712 |
Feb-13-08 12:29 PM |
#151 |
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Good luck! |
peacock |
Feb-13-08 12:11 PM |
#145 |
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I find it surprising that the same people that want our Dems to stand strong against |
pirhana |
Feb-13-08 12:19 PM |
#149 |
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"makes it no secret that he is willing to reach out to the repugs." You're confusing Obama with |
ProSense |
Feb-13-08 12:34 PM |
#152 |
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It seems hard for the Clinton supporters to get this. Maybe because Clinton caved on so much |
berni_mccoy |
Feb-13-08 12:39 PM |
#153 |
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Are you insulting Bill Clinton's presidency? |
pirhana |
Feb-13-08 12:44 PM |
#156 |
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Bill Bradley on |
ProSense |
Feb-13-08 12:48 PM |
#157 |
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all I see is ignore- |
pirhana |
Feb-13-08 12:42 PM |
#155 |
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It's too bad. They have a great point. |
berni_mccoy |
Feb-13-08 12:57 PM |
#158 |
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Sees Clearly |
Feb-13-08 01:45 PM |
#164 |
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He's all things to everyone - even the Repubs like him (not), so... |
libbygurl |
Feb-13-08 02:23 PM |
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Appealing to those outside your base isn't naive, it's practical. n/t |
sfexpat2000 |
Feb-13-08 03:04 PM |
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And do you seriously think those Repubs-turned-Dems will vote for him, too, in |
libbygurl |
Feb-13-08 03:30 PM |
#181 |
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Yes, they will and you couldn't sell me water in the desert. |
sfexpat2000 |
Feb-13-08 03:38 PM |
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Yes, in Virginia they will |
kaygore |
Feb-13-08 07:23 PM |
#193 |
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No, Obama is a way for 'moderates' to avoid admitting they fucked us twice |
sampsonblk |
Feb-13-08 03:10 PM |
#180 |
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Sorry, but I'm not feeling the hope. |
LWolf |
Feb-14-08 08:08 AM |
#203 |