Tom Rinaldo
(1000+ posts)
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Mon Feb-11-08 09:56 AM
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| Rules are Rules - and I'll respect them |
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The DNC has rules regarding their decision about Michigan and Florida, and they also have rules that say how to appeal their rulings on Michigan and Florida. Each State decided in advance how they would choose their delegates to the Democratic Convention - some use caucuses and some use primaries. Super Delegates were given a role in our nominating convention decades ago by the DNC, and there are ways for Democrats, working through our own State parties, to alter or reverse that decision. Up until now no one made any real effort to do so.
Some activists have a real problem with the influence Super Delegates will have in picking our nominee. Some have a real problem with the influence multiple caucuses, that do not use secret ballots and which are only open for a few fixed hours for voters to participate in, will have in picking our nominee. And it is tragic if the voters in Florida and Michigan end up having no say in who our nominee is. No doubt however that is decided it will be controversial.
But we are selecting our nominee using sets of rules that all parties to this process knew in advance. If we don't like 'em we should work to change 'em, but these are the rules we have now. In the case of Michigan and Florida the ultimate jury is still out, but at some point a decision will be made.
Whoever wins the Democratic nomination will have done so playing by the rules as written. I will fully support our Democratic nominee, even if I don't fully respect some of the rules that may help him or her win that nomination.
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Rules are Rules - and I'll respect them |
Tom Rinaldo |
Feb-11-08 09:56 AM |
#0 |

Well said. We are a country of laws (and rules) |
EmperorHasNoClothes |
Feb-11-08 10:02 AM |
#1 |

Good post, Tom. We need to take a serious look at the use of caucuses. |
chimpymustgo |
Feb-11-08 10:06 AM |
#2 |
 
My own half baked idea for Michigan and Florida |
Tom Rinaldo |
Feb-11-08 10:13 AM |
#3 |

Ok Tom, Heres a question for ya....... |
spokane |
Feb-11-08 12:12 PM |
#26 |

My feelings about Florida are stronger than my feelings about Michigan |
Tom Rinaldo |
Feb-11-08 12:40 PM |
#28 |

I'm not aware of Washington's primary |
spokane |
Feb-11-08 01:11 PM |
#34 |

I don't think Washington's primary results should change the delegates |
Tom Rinaldo |
Feb-11-08 01:18 PM |
#35 |

I'm really torn on this |
theHandpuppet |
Feb-11-08 10:14 AM |
#4 |

Yes |
malletgirl02 |
Feb-11-08 10:14 AM |
#5 |

Sorry, you miss the point.... |
suston96 |
Feb-11-08 10:15 AM |
#6 |
 
And your non-blind partisan solution is...? |
chimpymustgo |
Feb-11-08 10:19 AM |
#8 |
 
Try that again with specifics please |
Tom Rinaldo |
Feb-11-08 10:23 AM |
#9 |

You are supporting what is good for your candidate....nothing wrong with that... |
suston96 |
Feb-11-08 10:37 AM |
#15 |

Since I am supporting Clinton |
Tom Rinaldo |
Feb-11-08 10:52 AM |
#18 |

If all the states could set the dates for their own primaries, we would |
Arkansas Granny |
Feb-11-08 10:57 AM |
#19 |

Terrific....then that will easily lead to a national primary (elimination) day/weekend. |
suston96 |
Feb-11-08 11:11 AM |
#24 |

No more Jimmy Carters under a system like that |
Tom Rinaldo |
Feb-11-08 11:57 AM |
#25 |

A guy in Texas decided to run for office with a promise that he would spend not a nickel..... |
suston96 |
Feb-11-08 12:32 PM |
#27 |

Every previously elected Democrat who declares for President |
Tom Rinaldo |
Feb-11-08 12:44 PM |
#29 |

I agree. |
Sparkly |
Feb-11-08 10:19 AM |
#7 |

I agree with everything, except I would include the Michigan/Florida |
pampango |
Feb-11-08 10:25 AM |
#10 |
 
I understand about Florida and Michigan |
Tom Rinaldo |
Feb-11-08 10:30 AM |
#12 |

I realize that the convention can decide whom to seat |
pampango |
Feb-11-08 10:42 AM |
#16 |

Sorry for being redundant..but. Trying to make a point about Obama's stand |
indimuse |
Feb-11-08 10:26 AM |
#11 |
 
I really was trying to keep the actual candidates out of this discussion |
Tom Rinaldo |
Feb-11-08 10:34 AM |
#14 |

The FL and MI delegates should NOT be seated if there isn't a re-vote. |
Tatiana |
Feb-11-08 10:33 AM |
#13 |

We live in a nation of laws. |
ozone_man |
Feb-11-08 10:50 AM |
#17 |
 
In my own case I am not pleased with the role played by caucuses |
Tom Rinaldo |
Feb-11-08 11:10 AM |
#23 |

If only |
abburdlen |
Feb-11-08 11:01 AM |
#20 |

Yes, rules are rules. You change them before or after, not during. |
elocs |
Feb-11-08 11:02 AM |
#21 |

Well done, Tom. I agree, this will play out according to the rules. I do believe that caucuses |
elixir |
Feb-11-08 11:03 AM |
#22 |

I agree in general, although I would prefer... |
incapsulated |
Feb-11-08 12:51 PM |
#30 |

I think that if the popular vote and the supers are much at odds, |
Jed Dilligan |
Feb-11-08 12:54 PM |
#31 |

I agree with you on that |
Tom Rinaldo |
Feb-11-08 12:56 PM |
#32 |

Self Delete. Double post n/t |
Tom Rinaldo |
Feb-11-08 12:56 PM |
#33 |