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Rules are Rules - and I'll respect them
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The DNC has rules regarding their decision about Michigan and Florida, and they also have rules that say how to appeal their rulings on Michigan and Florida. Each State decided in advance how they would choose their delegates to the Democratic Convention - some use caucuses and some use primaries. Super Delegates were given a role in our nominating convention decades ago by the DNC, and there are ways for Democrats, working through our own State parties, to alter or reverse that decision. Up until now no one made any real effort to do so.

Some activists have a real problem with the influence Super Delegates will have in picking our nominee. Some have a real problem with the influence multiple caucuses, that do not use secret ballots and which are only open for a few fixed hours for voters to participate in, will have in picking our nominee. And it is tragic if the voters in Florida and Michigan end up having no say in who our nominee is. No doubt however that is decided it will be controversial.

But we are selecting our nominee using sets of rules that all parties to this process knew in advance. If we don't like 'em we should work to change 'em, but these are the rules we have now. In the case of Michigan and Florida the ultimate jury is still out, but at some point a decision will be made.

Whoever wins the Democratic nomination will have done so playing by the rules as written. I will fully support our Democratic nominee, even if I don't fully respect some of the rules that may help him or her win that nomination.
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  Rules are Rules - and I'll respect them Tom Rinaldo  Feb-11-08 09:56 AM   #0 
   Well said. We are a country of laws (and rules)  EmperorHasNoClothes   Feb-11-08 10:02 AM   #1 
   Good post, Tom. We need to take a serious look at the use of caucuses.  chimpymustgo   Feb-11-08 10:06 AM   #2 
   My own half baked idea for Michigan and Florida  Tom Rinaldo   Feb-11-08 10:13 AM   #3 
      Ok Tom, Heres a question for ya.......  spokane   Feb-11-08 12:12 PM   #26 
         My feelings about Florida are stronger than my feelings about Michigan  Tom Rinaldo   Feb-11-08 12:40 PM   #28 
            I'm not aware of Washington's primary  spokane   Feb-11-08 01:11 PM   #34 
               I don't think Washington's primary results should change the delegates  Tom Rinaldo   Feb-11-08 01:18 PM   #35 
   I'm really torn on this  theHandpuppet   Feb-11-08 10:14 AM   #4 
   Yes  malletgirl02   Feb-11-08 10:14 AM   #5 
   Sorry, you miss the point....  suston96   Feb-11-08 10:15 AM   #6 
   And your non-blind partisan solution is...?  chimpymustgo   Feb-11-08 10:19 AM   #8 
   Try that again with specifics please  Tom Rinaldo   Feb-11-08 10:23 AM   #9 
      You are supporting what is good for your candidate....nothing wrong with that...  suston96   Feb-11-08 10:37 AM   #15 
         Since I am supporting Clinton  Tom Rinaldo   Feb-11-08 10:52 AM   #18 
         If all the states could set the dates for their own primaries, we would  Arkansas Granny   Feb-11-08 10:57 AM   #19 
            Terrific....then that will easily lead to a national primary (elimination) day/weekend.  suston96   Feb-11-08 11:11 AM   #24 
               No more Jimmy Carters under a system like that  Tom Rinaldo   Feb-11-08 11:57 AM   #25 
                  A guy in Texas decided to run for office with a promise that he would spend not a nickel.....  suston96   Feb-11-08 12:32 PM   #27 
                     Every previously elected Democrat who declares for President  Tom Rinaldo   Feb-11-08 12:44 PM   #29 
   I agree.  Sparkly   Feb-11-08 10:19 AM   #7 
   I agree with everything, except I would include the Michigan/Florida  pampango   Feb-11-08 10:25 AM   #10 
   I understand about Florida and Michigan  Tom Rinaldo   Feb-11-08 10:30 AM   #12 
      I realize that the convention can decide whom to seat  pampango   Feb-11-08 10:42 AM   #16 
   Sorry for being redundant..but. Trying to make a point about Obama's stand  indimuse   Feb-11-08 10:26 AM   #11 
   I really was trying to keep the actual candidates out of this discussion  Tom Rinaldo   Feb-11-08 10:34 AM   #14 
   The FL and MI delegates should NOT be seated if there isn't a re-vote.  Tatiana   Feb-11-08 10:33 AM   #13 
   We live in a nation of laws.  ozone_man   Feb-11-08 10:50 AM   #17 
   In my own case I am not pleased with the role played by caucuses  Tom Rinaldo   Feb-11-08 11:10 AM   #23 
   If only  abburdlen   Feb-11-08 11:01 AM   #20 
   Yes, rules are rules. You change them before or after, not during.  elocs   Feb-11-08 11:02 AM   #21 
   Well done, Tom. I agree, this will play out according to the rules. I do believe that caucuses  elixir   Feb-11-08 11:03 AM   #22 
   I agree in general, although I would prefer...  incapsulated   Feb-11-08 12:51 PM   #30 
   I think that if the popular vote and the supers are much at odds,  Jed Dilligan   Feb-11-08 12:54 PM   #31 
      I agree with you on that  Tom Rinaldo   Feb-11-08 12:56 PM   #32 
      Self Delete. Double post n/t  Tom Rinaldo   Feb-11-08 12:56 PM   #33 
 

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