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maddiejoan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-10-08 03:19 PM
Response to Reply #65
68. This is insane
IWR did not authorize Bush's invasion --in fact Bush ignored the criteria of the IWR and invaded anyway.


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  -I suppose too that this is a lie... (Clinton vs Obama) Popol Vuh  Feb-10-08 02:18 PM   #0 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Feb-10-08 02:20 PM   #1 
  - So anything critical of your candidate is dismissed as "Freeper Spam" and deserves to be alerted ?  DJ13   Feb-10-08 02:24 PM   #5 
  - No  maddiejoan   Feb-10-08 02:25 PM   #7 
  - ah well maddie look into the rules  fenriswolf   Feb-10-08 02:27 PM   #15 
  - Rules? What Rules! Maddie Don't Need No Stinking Rules!  IndieLeft   Feb-10-08 03:15 PM   #63 
  - Obama = Nostradamus! He nailed it. Plus Obama's speech was 9 days b4 the IWR vote  bushmeat   Feb-10-08 02:57 PM   #51 
  - Where does he implore the Senate not to vote on it?  maddiejoan   Feb-10-08 03:07 PM   #58 
     - Maddie, facts are facts.  IndieLeft   Feb-10-08 03:17 PM   #65 
        - This is insane  maddiejoan   Feb-10-08 03:19 PM   #68 
           - YES it did. And we all know it.  IndieLeft   Feb-10-08 03:22 PM   #70 
           - You are defending Bush  maddiejoan   Feb-10-08 03:24 PM   #71 
              - Did I mention Bush? I don't think so.  IndieLeft   Feb-10-08 03:28 PM   #76 
              - Distort much?  maddiejoan   Feb-10-08 03:34 PM   #85 
                 - I don't think I'm supposed to say who it was  IndieLeft   Feb-10-08 03:38 PM   #89 
                 - Was it you?  maddiejoan   Feb-10-08 03:44 PM   #94 
                    - Um, No Maddie, I'm still here.  IndieLeft   Feb-10-08 03:45 PM   #97 
                       - then your friend was a transphobe  maddiejoan   Feb-10-08 03:48 PM   #100 
                          - No, he's not. He's really not.  IndieLeft   Feb-10-08 03:52 PM   #103 
                          - Wow! Just wow!  Popol Vuh   Feb-10-08 04:07 PM   #112 
                             - He made a comment about anne coulter  IndieLeft   Feb-10-08 04:08 PM   #113 
                             - OMG that is nothing  Popol Vuh   Feb-10-08 04:17 PM   #117 
                             - The person started with a transphobic 'bait'  maddiejoan   Feb-10-08 04:16 PM   #116 
                                - I don't beleive he did.  IndieLeft   Feb-10-08 04:20 PM   #118 
                                - He was given ample opportunity  maddiejoan   Feb-10-08 04:23 PM   #120 
                                - That's not true...  IndieLeft   Feb-10-08 04:29 PM   #124 
                                - Since I wasn't there  Popol Vuh   Feb-10-08 04:25 PM   #121 
                                   - I find that use  maddiejoan   Feb-10-08 04:27 PM   #123 
                                   - Self Delete  IndieLeft   Feb-10-08 04:31 PM   #126 
                                   - Ah geez, another one who doesn't get it  BuffyTheFundieSlayer   Feb-10-08 07:55 PM   #136 
                                   - Trust me, it was taken out of context.  IndieLeft   Feb-10-08 04:31 PM   #125 
                                   - Based on what my experience  Popol Vuh   Feb-10-08 04:41 PM   #128 
                 - So you think she was right to vote for the IWR?  IndieLeft   Feb-10-08 03:39 PM   #91 
                    - I don't live in a black and white world  maddiejoan   Feb-10-08 03:45 PM   #96 
                       - OMG! You admit it. Thank YOU! But I have a question.  IndieLeft   Feb-10-08 03:50 PM   #101 
                       - Clinton HAS admitted it was a bad vote.  maddiejoan   Feb-10-08 03:55 PM   #105 
                          - Her constituents were wrong.  IndieLeft   Feb-10-08 04:04 PM   #109 
                             - Then you would be happy  maddiejoan   Feb-10-08 04:05 PM   #110 
                                - NO, I don't think she would.  IndieLeft   Feb-10-08 04:11 PM   #114 
                                   - It worked so well for Kerry in the GE  maddiejoan   Feb-10-08 04:14 PM   #115 
                                   - Kerry was an idiot. I voted for the war before I voted against it...  IndieLeft   Feb-10-08 04:23 PM   #119 
                                   - Kerry never said that  karynnj   Feb-10-08 07:35 PM   #133 
                       - Understandable how?  Popol Vuh   Feb-10-08 04:49 PM   #129 
                          - blah blah blah  maddiejoan   Feb-10-08 08:49 PM   #138 
              - And you all notice, Maddie WILL NOT defend Clinton... just attacks Obama  IndieLeft   Feb-10-08 03:31 PM   #79 
                 - and you notice  maddiejoan   Feb-10-08 03:33 PM   #82 
                    - So you are saying she was right? Right to authorize the IWR?  IndieLeft   Feb-10-08 03:35 PM   #86 
                       - I said  maddiejoan   Feb-10-08 03:38 PM   #88 
                          - NO, that is NOT what they were voting for.  IndieLeft   Feb-10-08 03:42 PM   #93 
                             - IF certain criteria was met  maddiejoan   Feb-10-08 03:46 PM   #99 
                                - We do agree on that. Bush IS the consumate War Criminal.  IndieLeft   Feb-10-08 03:54 PM   #104 
                                   - Do you see how  maddiejoan   Feb-10-08 03:58 PM   #106 
                                      - No, I don't diminish his responsibility in this at all.  IndieLeft   Feb-10-08 04:07 PM   #111 
                                      - "When you blame the Democrats who voted IWR --you lessen Bush's crime."  Straight Shooter   Feb-10-08 07:50 PM   #135 
           - Denial is not just a river in Egypt....  enough already   Feb-10-08 03:34 PM   #84 
              - It's unbelievable, isn't it?  IndieLeft   Feb-10-08 03:44 PM   #95 
  - more rule breaking, eh?  Elrond Hubbard   Feb-10-08 04:26 PM   #122 
  - It's only Freeper Spam if you don't support Hillary.  IndieLeft   Feb-10-08 03:14 PM   #62 
  - awe c'mon maddie, its from the horses mouth.  fenriswolf   Feb-10-08 02:24 PM   #6 
     - it's edited BS with a Bernard Herrman soundtrack  maddiejoan   Feb-10-08 02:25 PM   #10 
     - Spam?  Popol Vuh   Feb-10-08 02:54 PM   #46 
     - Why not post a real comparison  maddiejoan   Feb-10-08 02:56 PM   #48 
        - You saying that video showing  Popol Vuh   Feb-10-08 03:06 PM   #57 
           - I'm saying it's edited  maddiejoan   Feb-10-08 03:07 PM   #59 
              - I'll give you  Popol Vuh   Feb-10-08 03:21 PM   #69 
              - Obama never denounced the IWR vote  maddiejoan   Feb-10-08 03:26 PM   #73 
                 - I'm sorry, but did he not come out against it before the vote?  IndieLeft   Feb-10-08 03:29 PM   #78 
                 - I guess  maddiejoan   Feb-10-08 03:32 PM   #81 
                 - NO, there is no guessing. He DID come out and speak against it.  IndieLeft   Feb-10-08 03:40 PM   #92 
                 - How does one 'understand' someone voting to kill hundreds of thousands of innocents?  enough already   Feb-10-08 07:10 PM   #132 
                 - see my post #107 nt  mopinko   Feb-10-08 04:03 PM   #108 
                 - So now he's suppose to actually "denounce"  Popol Vuh   Feb-10-08 03:37 PM   #87 
                    - Considering  maddiejoan   Feb-10-08 03:50 PM   #102 
              - Here you go Maddie... Unedited FULL SPEECH... All of it.  IndieLeft   Feb-10-08 03:26 PM   #74 
     - Maddie, we've all seen the whole clip.  IndieLeft   Feb-10-08 03:18 PM   #67 
     - Maddie does have a point,  spokane   Feb-10-08 02:40 PM   #33 
     - I think if Clinton supporters would admit she bares SOME responsibility...  IndieLeft   Feb-10-08 03:33 PM   #83 
        - I was actually responding to  spokane   Feb-10-08 03:38 PM   #90 
     - Actually, it's from the other end of the horse.  11 Bravo   Feb-10-08 02:44 PM   #38 
  - It's the truth. Kick.  Bonobo   Feb-10-08 02:21 PM   #2 
  - At the very least  Popol Vuh   Feb-10-08 02:24 PM   #4 
  - It's juvenile BS  maddiejoan   Feb-10-08 02:30 PM   #20 
     - It Is Not BS At All  lligrd   Feb-10-08 02:32 PM   #26 
     - Then you don't understand the vote  maddiejoan   Feb-10-08 02:36 PM   #30 
        - She knew damn well Bush's intent...  ingac70   Feb-10-08 02:41 PM   #34 
        - Bush would have invaded  maddiejoan   Feb-10-08 02:43 PM   #36 
           - Then she didn't need to authorize that with her vote.  ingac70   Feb-10-08 02:51 PM   #42 
              - IWR was an effort to keep the inspectors in  maddiejoan   Feb-10-08 02:53 PM   #44 
                 - And an authorization to use force.  ingac70   Feb-10-08 02:55 PM   #47 
                    - IF certain criteria was met  maddiejoan   Feb-10-08 02:57 PM   #50 
                       - That was in the failed Levin Amendment...  ingac70   Feb-10-08 03:00 PM   #53 
                          - I'm not comfortable  maddiejoan   Feb-10-08 03:03 PM   #55 
                             - The IWR gave him permission..  ingac70   Feb-10-08 03:10 PM   #60 
                             - Bush didn't meet that criteria  maddiejoan   Feb-10-08 03:15 PM   #64 
                                - Hillary might get somewhere if she tried to used that argument...  ingac70   Feb-10-08 03:24 PM   #72 
                                   - Then I should be her campaign manager  maddiejoan   Feb-10-08 03:26 PM   #75 
                                      - Call her up...  ingac70   Feb-10-08 03:28 PM   #77 
                             - That's not what it did.  IndieLeft   Feb-10-08 04:38 PM   #127 
        - You Mean, Then She Didn't Understand The Vote  lligrd   Feb-10-08 02:44 PM   #37 
     - So what you are saying is:  Popol Vuh   Feb-10-08 02:50 PM   #40 
        - I think the video  maddiejoan   Feb-10-08 02:54 PM   #45 
           - Full story?  Popol Vuh   Feb-10-08 03:00 PM   #54 
              - Play her full speech on the Senate floor  maddiejoan   Feb-10-08 03:05 PM   #56 
                 - I already read it and saw it.  Popol Vuh   Feb-10-08 03:11 PM   #61 
                    - IWR was not a vote to go to War  maddiejoan   Feb-10-08 03:17 PM   #66 
  - K&R.  ingac70   Feb-10-08 02:23 PM   #3 
  - All who think Bush started his Iraq war only becuase Clinton voted for IWR are fooling themselves.  MethuenProgressive   Feb-10-08 02:25 PM   #8 
  - Did anybody say Bush started his Iraq war  Popol Vuh   Feb-10-08 02:27 PM   #16 
  - No, Clinton wasn't the only one who voted for the illegal bullshit war.  newmajority   Feb-10-08 02:28 PM   #17 
  - To be fair, not just Clinton voted for it...  PassingFair   Feb-10-08 02:40 PM   #32 
  - Obama's words.  NightWatcher   Feb-10-08 02:25 PM   #9 
  - where does he denounce  maddiejoan   Feb-10-08 02:27 PM   #14 
  - a couple paragraphs down  NightWatcher   Feb-10-08 02:32 PM   #25 
  - Doesn't answer my question  maddiejoan   Feb-10-08 02:35 PM   #29 
     - So your point is that Hillary trusted Bush to do the right thing?  enough already   Feb-10-08 09:09 PM   #139 
  - got that backwards. obama's speech- 10-02. iwr vote, 10-11  mopinko   Feb-10-08 02:49 PM   #39 
     - No  maddiejoan   Feb-10-08 02:53 PM   #43 
        - no, that speech was given on 10-02-2002  mopinko   Feb-10-08 04:00 PM   #107 
        - i see you still have not corrected yourself.  mopinko   Feb-11-08 12:24 PM   #141 
  - Why does he continue to vote to FUND this "dumb war"?  uberblonde   Feb-10-08 05:45 PM   #130 
     - I myself addressed that earlier  Popol Vuh   Feb-10-08 06:12 PM   #131 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Feb-10-08 02:26 PM   #11 
  - Yep, that slice of truth sums it up nicely.  AtomicKitten   Feb-10-08 02:26 PM   #12 
  - Obama = Nostradamus? Almost scary how accurately he nailed Iraq.  jmg257   Feb-10-08 02:26 PM   #13 
  - K & R  Debi   Feb-10-08 02:29 PM   #18 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Feb-10-08 02:29 PM   #19 
  - That's just plain baremetal contrast - sums it all up. -nt  democrat2thecore   Feb-10-08 02:30 PM   #21 
  - Dumb Wars - Perfect  lligrd   Feb-10-08 02:30 PM   #22 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Feb-10-08 02:31 PM   #23 
  - Thank you for posting this link  ayeshahaqqiqa   Feb-10-08 02:32 PM   #24 
  - Thank you  Popol Vuh   Feb-10-08 02:35 PM   #28 
     - I know you to be a person of honor  ayeshahaqqiqa   Feb-10-08 02:56 PM   #49 
        - Thank you ayeshahaqqiqa  Popol Vuh   Feb-10-08 03:46 PM   #98 
  - K&R!  Hepburn   Feb-10-08 02:34 PM   #27 
  - "Disarm or be disarmed" versus a Rationale Statement of Opposition. K&R  K Gardner   Feb-10-08 02:38 PM   #31 
  - Another video...  ingac70   Feb-10-08 02:42 PM   #35 
  - "Squawk! I'm A Parrot!" "Squawk! IWR IWR" "Squawk! She Voted She Voted IWR IWR" "Squawk"  ElsewheresDaughter   Feb-10-08 02:50 PM   #41 
  - Why does video of Hillary hate Hillary?!  TexasObserver   Feb-10-08 03:00 PM   #52 
  - K and R  Quixote1818   Feb-10-08 03:32 PM   #80 
  - OUCH. I never saw that  BrentTaylor   Feb-10-08 07:40 PM   #134 
  - HA! She says, "Well Tim, let's put this in context" and the video tunes out.  Skip Intro   Feb-10-08 07:55 PM   #137 
     - And?  Popol Vuh   Feb-10-08 11:47 PM   #140 
 

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