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163. NO. Maybe if he stayed out of it
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  -Whether you support Obama or Hillary, lets agree to one thing: LAY OFF BILL CLINTON!!! DiamondJay  Feb-08-08 11:02 PM   #0 
  - No. He wrecked the party and has no legacy that lasted beyond two years after he left office.  Radical Activist   Feb-08-08 11:06 PM   #1 
  - Rad. Go ahead and vote for McCain we don't care just get out  bellasgrams   Feb-08-08 11:24 PM   #40 
  - We're not down to the unfortunate choice between McCain and Hillary yet.  Radical Activist   Feb-08-08 11:25 PM   #42 
     - maybe Ch will be a candidate  DiamondJay   Feb-08-08 11:26 PM   #45 
     - You know who the best friend of the Green Party is?  Radical Activist   Feb-08-08 11:31 PM   # 
        - Deleted message  Name removed   Feb-08-08 11:34 PM   #59 
           - hey hey hey nothing wrong with idealism  DiamondJay   Feb-08-08 11:36 PM   #65 
           - yes  Sebass1271   Feb-08-08 11:41 PM   #75 
           - I saw the reality that the Democratic Party  Radical Activist   Feb-08-08 11:45 PM   #82 
           - There's nothing politically realistic  Radical Activist   Feb-08-08 11:41 PM   #76 
           - I'm being realistic about what happened politically.  Radical Activist   Feb-08-08 11:39 PM   #69 
           - I'm telling you how to keep the Democratic Party strong.  Radical Activist   Feb-08-08 11:48 PM   #86 
              - You don't try to keep your party  Sebass1271   Feb-09-08 12:22 AM   #121 
                 - Blind cult-like obedience to a leader  Radical Activist   Feb-09-08 12:26 AM   #129 
     - the repugs are holding back their volumes of anti Hillary stuff for if she gets the nomination  WillYourVoteBCounted   Feb-09-08 12:16 AM   #114 
        - they've already done that over the last 15 years  DiamondJay   Feb-09-08 12:20 AM   #119 
  - AMEN, thanks to Billary, we lost congress, which means you can't do shi# n/t  WillYourVoteBCounted   Feb-09-08 12:12 AM   #110 
  - prove it, that THEY were the reason.  DiamondJay   Feb-09-08 12:20 AM   #118 
  - Bill Clinton in many polls' comes in as one of the top 5 best President  surfermaw   Feb-09-08 11:46 AM   #168 
  - Bill brought us NAFTA. The full ramifications of that were not felt until years later  Windy   Feb-08-08 11:07 PM   #2 
  - how about the 22 million other jobs?  DiamondJay   Feb-08-08 11:13 PM   #10 
  - Oh those tech bubble jobs? Gee how could I forget!  Windy   Feb-08-08 11:18 PM   #27 
  - "Bubble jobs" -- about ONE MILLION  Pigwidgeon   Feb-09-08 12:23 AM   #123 
  - Jobs at Walmart and McDonalds?  Radical Activist   Feb-08-08 11:26 PM   #44 
     - you don't think the Reagan/Bush years  paulk   Feb-08-08 11:35 PM   #62 
     - Its true that Clinton continued the same neoliberal trade policies  Radical Activist   Feb-08-08 11:51 PM   #90 
     - YOUR CHE AND COMMUNISM WILL  Sebass1271   Feb-08-08 11:36 PM   #64 
     - YOUR ALL CAPS WILL MAKE YOUR ARGUMENT MORE COMPELLING  Radical Activist   Feb-08-08 11:59 PM   #101 
     - Seabass ... chill a little  Pigwidgeon   Feb-09-08 12:26 AM   #128 
        - Maybe...  Sebass1271   Feb-09-08 12:41 AM   #138 
     - Rad, you don't know what you are talking about  CaptJasHook   Feb-08-08 11:47 PM   #84 
     - So NAFTA was good for American labor?  Radical Activist   Feb-08-08 11:55 PM   #92 
        - Still don't get it do you?  CaptJasHook   Feb-09-08 12:04 AM   #105 
           - Globalization isn't a force of nature.  Radical Activist   Feb-09-08 12:10 AM   #109 
              - I admire your idealism  CaptJasHook   Feb-09-08 12:19 AM   #117 
     - coudl che bring em back?  DiamondJay   Feb-09-08 09:46 AM   #153 
        - stick to the issue  Pat Cakes   Feb-09-08 11:32 AM   #164 
  - o Bush Sr. brougth it  DiamondJay   Feb-08-08 11:23 PM   #39 
  - Clinton could have killed it.  Radical Activist   Feb-08-08 11:27 PM   #47 
  - For a very short 2 years  CaptJasHook   Feb-08-08 11:50 PM   #88 
     - Including the two years when NAFTA passed.  Radical Activist   Feb-08-08 11:57 PM   #97 
        - Candidates for President have always made promises they couldn't keep  CaptJasHook   Feb-09-08 12:13 AM   #111 
           - Those advisors also told him  Radical Activist   Feb-09-08 12:16 AM   #112 
              - You think progressive policies would have been passed?  CaptJasHook   Feb-09-08 12:30 AM   #131 
                 - YOu know what i dont'  Sebass1271   Feb-09-08 12:36 AM   #135 
                 - I'm angry too  CaptJasHook   Feb-09-08 12:51 AM   #144 
                 - cmon it was not clinton's fault  DiamondJay   Feb-09-08 12:37 AM   #136 
                 - Bullshit  CaptJasHook   Feb-09-08 12:43 AM   #141 
                 - The '94 takeover happened  Radical Activist   Feb-09-08 12:43 AM   #140 
                    - how about the GOP lead in the polls the whole year  DiamondJay   Feb-09-08 12:48 AM   #142 
                    - Jesus, I forgot about the F**in commercial.  CaptJasHook   Feb-09-08 12:53 AM   #145 
                    - Maybe  CaptJasHook   Feb-09-08 12:49 AM   #143 
                       - Clinton had a progressive populist platform  Radical Activist   Feb-09-08 12:55 AM   #146 
                          - I don't want to belittle you. Don't be paranoid.  CaptJasHook   Feb-09-08 12:57 AM   #147 
                             - Ok  Radical Activist   Feb-09-08 01:04 AM   #148 
                                - I'm not a Hillary supporter  CaptJasHook   Feb-09-08 01:09 AM   #150 
  - Agree  Sebass1271   Feb-08-08 11:39 PM   #72 
     - The Democratic Party is doing better today because of Bush backlash.  Radical Activist   Feb-09-08 12:24 AM   #124 
     - he replaced it with balanced budgets and prosperity  DiamondJay   Feb-09-08 12:28 AM   #130 
        - Carter had decent budgets  Radical Activist   Feb-09-08 12:36 AM   #134 
     - Welcome to DU, Sebass1271  WesDem   Feb-09-08 10:13 AM   #159 
  - I wonder if SOME would challenge yourself to go without Clinton bashing for, say 2  rodeodance   Feb-08-08 11:30 PM   #51 
  - Many expansions to NAFTA occurred outside of the orignial  sjdnb   Feb-09-08 12:24 AM   #125 
  - Oh, and he lost the Dem majority in the House after 60 years.  heraldsqure   Feb-08-08 11:07 PM   #3 
  - Don't forget that he okayed the bombing of civilian targets in Serbia  sidwill   Feb-08-08 11:08 PM   # 
  - and called off his guy Suharto... just a little late for a lot of East Timorese. nt  Whisp   Feb-08-08 11:13 PM   #11 
  - how about the lebanon barracks of 83, the kuwaiti embassy  DiamondJay   Feb-08-08 11:14 PM   #12 
     - who's defending reagan and bush? nt  heraldsqure   Feb-08-08 11:15 PM   #17 
        - you are.  DiamondJay   Feb-08-08 11:18 PM   #25 
           - My opinion is, he was bad on a lot of things.  heraldsqure   Feb-08-08 11:19 PM   #32 
  - You can't criticize him for the first attack on the WTC. It was his 38th day in office.  milkyway   Feb-08-08 11:32 PM   #56 
     - EXACTLY THAT WAS WHAT I WAS LOOKING FOR  DiamondJay   Feb-08-08 11:34 PM   #58 
     - But it is the same excuse Bush used, right?  heraldsqure   Feb-08-08 11:44 PM   #80 
        - 9 months>30 days  DiamondJay   Feb-08-08 11:55 PM   #93 
        - There's a big difference between 38 days and about 250 days. You really think  milkyway   Feb-08-08 11:56 PM   #95 
  - Fuck bil clinton and the strangulatin'  zidzi   Feb-08-08 11:08 PM   #4 
  - And I say fuck all these Clinton hating posts!  buff2   Feb-08-08 11:11 PM   #7 
  - I say the clintons fucking  zidzi   Feb-09-08 03:51 PM   #170 
  - Same to you and the rest of your repukian brethren  mtnsnake   Feb-08-08 11:30 PM   #53 
  - EXCELLENT THREAD!  buff2   Feb-08-08 11:09 PM   #5 
  - You're bound to get a flock of freepers-in-obama- clothing pecking  The_Casual_Observer   Feb-08-08 11:11 PM   #6 
  - I think you summed it all up.........  buff2   Feb-08-08 11:14 PM   #13 
  - anyone who critisizes Bill Clinton is a freeper, huh? Read the DU rules /nt  still_one   Feb-08-08 11:19 PM   #31 
  - spoken like a true cultist. Can't even admit Clinton's fucked up strategy hurt our party  cryingshame   Feb-08-08 11:15 PM   #18 
  - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Feb-08-08 11:16 PM   #20 
  - electoral vote average buddy.  DiamondJay   Feb-08-08 11:20 PM   #33 
  - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Feb-08-08 11:17 PM   #22 
  - who are you to call anyone who critisizes "bill clinton" a freeper?  still_one   Feb-08-08 11:18 PM   #26 
  - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Feb-08-08 11:19 PM   #29 
  - the freeper in democratic clothing was bill clinton  Radical Activist   Feb-08-08 11:34 PM   #61 
     - people? you mean fringe people  DiamondJay   Feb-08-08 11:35 PM   #63 
        - and many democrats.  Radical Activist   Feb-08-08 11:49 PM   #87 
           - 85% of democrats...DONT think so  DiamondJay   Feb-08-08 11:52 PM   #91 
  - I Voted For Bill But I Thought He Did More For The  lligrd   Feb-08-08 11:12 PM   #8 
  - I Voted For Bill But I Thought He Did More For The  lligrd   Feb-08-08 11:12 PM   #9 
  - Tell that to those who sufferred under his welfare reform act  still_one   Feb-08-08 11:14 PM   #14 
  - I'd much rather leave Bill Clinton to history myself.  newmajority   Feb-08-08 11:14 PM   #15 
  - No. As long as he interjects himself into this primary, he's fair game.  sparosnare   Feb-08-08 11:15 PM   #16 
  - Nope!  angie_love   Feb-08-08 11:15 PM   #19 
  - So.......any criticism of Obama.......  buff2   Feb-08-08 11:19 PM   #30 
     - Um did you see his freeper thread? It was appalling.  angie_love   Feb-08-08 11:22 PM   #35 
        - I didn't see the thread  buff2   Feb-08-08 11:23 PM   #38 
           - It's better you didn't  Kittycat   Feb-08-08 11:37 PM   #68 
  - he was an embarassment and some of us remember ...  ursi   Feb-08-08 11:16 PM   #21 
  - fuck you  Sebass1271   Feb-08-08 11:59 PM   #100 
  - I would very much like that. But it won't happen.  robbedvoter   Feb-08-08 11:17 PM   #23 
  - If he's going to enter the current campaign fray ...  frazzled   Feb-08-08 11:18 PM   #24 
  - No, Bill Clinton and his Mighty SMARMY DLC smear machine are holding OUR PARTY hostage.  ShortnFiery   Feb-08-08 11:19 PM   #28 
  - whow--just imagine if a few pledged for one week not to hit on Bill. Think anyone can?  rodeodance   Feb-08-08 11:20 PM   #34 
  - And just imagine if that narcissist could stay out of the public arena for one week...  mitchum   Feb-09-08 09:55 AM   #155 
  - Do you mean  ProSense   Feb-08-08 11:22 PM   #36 
  - what a great POST!!  Sebass1271   Feb-08-08 11:22 PM   #37 
  - Bullshit  thevoiceofreason   Feb-08-08 11:24 PM   #41 
  - but not his presidency  DiamondJay   Feb-08-08 11:25 PM   #43 
     - I'm good with that  thevoiceofreason   Feb-08-08 11:30 PM   #52 
  - i know, people laying on him was what got us into trouble in the first place  Magic Rat   Feb-08-08 11:27 PM   #46 
  - Whatever, dude  zulchzulu   Feb-08-08 11:28 PM   #48 
  - Clinton Galvanized The Repulican Party...  JimGinPA   Feb-08-08 11:36 PM   #66 
     - maybe because he was their first real threat in almost 20 years  DiamondJay   Feb-08-08 11:39 PM   #70 
        - yeap  Sebass1271   Feb-09-08 12:04 AM   #104 
        - Why? They were afraid he wouldn't carry their water quickly enough?  mitchum   Feb-09-08 09:57 AM   #157 
  - Hear hear!!  mtnsnake   Feb-08-08 11:28 PM   #49 
  - No way!  Obamaniac   Feb-08-08 11:29 PM   #50 
  - Bill, Hillary, and the DLC brought this party back from the brink of oblivion.  JohnBreauxDemocrat   Feb-08-08 11:31 PM   #54 
  - WTF!?! Bill and Hill brought us the DLC which took *our* party to the corporate leaning right.  ShortnFiery   Feb-08-08 11:39 PM   #71 
  - In defense of corporations, I know people with AIDS who depend on these big  JohnBreauxDemocrat   Feb-08-08 11:41 PM   #77 
  - Don't go there. "In defense of corporations" NO, corporations prevent GENERIC drugs that can treat  ShortnFiery   Feb-08-08 11:48 PM   #85 
  - thats too far  DiamondJay   Feb-08-08 11:58 PM   #99 
     - Disagree. The DLC did not hold a gun to Bush's head and say invade Iraq and tap the phones.  JohnBreauxDemocrat   Feb-08-08 11:59 PM   #102 
        - they DID tell dems it was expedient to vote for it  DiamondJay   Feb-09-08 12:01 AM   #103 
           - I don't recall reading that in the "Press" section of their web page.  JohnBreauxDemocrat   Feb-09-08 12:17 AM   #115 
              - but back in 02  DiamondJay   Feb-09-08 12:25 AM   #127 
  - or we could still be the soft on crime party and welfare party  DiamondJay   Feb-09-08 12:16 AM   #113 
  - Hey look everybody! It's "Al From Democrat", back with a new alias!  newmajority   Feb-08-08 11:51 PM   #89 
     - Is that a Democrat from Alabama?  JohnBreauxDemocrat   Feb-08-08 11:55 PM   #94 
        - No, Al's not a Democrat at all. Neither was John Breaux.  newmajority   Feb-09-08 12:04 AM   #106 
           - Excuse me, but Senator Breaux most certainly is a Democrat.  JohnBreauxDemocrat   Feb-09-08 12:07 AM   #108 
              - Oh, I know what he called himself  newmajority   Feb-09-08 12:18 AM   #116 
                 - What is bad about Mrs. Landrieu  JohnBreauxDemocrat   Feb-09-08 12:21 AM   #120 
  - Great post! I agree 100%.  Auntie Bush   Feb-08-08 11:31 PM   #55 
  - HOW WOULD THE B. CLINTON HATERS EXIST? WHAT WOULD THEY  rodeodance   Feb-08-08 11:32 PM   #57 
  - So, if you type in all capitals, does that mean you are a little miffed?!?  ShortnFiery   Feb-08-08 11:34 PM   #60 
  - the responses on this thread illustrate why no one out in the  paulk   Feb-08-08 11:37 PM   #67 
  - we need some discipline  DiamondJay   Feb-08-08 11:40 PM   #73 
  - Yes Karl Rove has some news reels of "DISCIPLINE" but they're hard to understand  ShortnFiery   Feb-08-08 11:45 PM   #81 
  - So tell me paulk, what's your excuse for "slumming with us?"  ShortnFiery   Feb-08-08 11:40 PM   #74 
  - there are a few people on this site whose opinions  paulk   Feb-08-08 11:57 PM   #98 
     - Too funny, you trash an ENTIRE message board, then reverse yourself to say "a few"  ShortnFiery   Feb-09-08 12:06 AM   #107 
        - LOL  paulk   Feb-09-08 09:55 AM   #156 
  - yeah. i am seriously wondering of exiting  rodeodance   Feb-08-08 11:41 PM   #78 
  - Amen to that, paulk  mtnsnake   Feb-08-08 11:47 PM   #83 
  - He isn't at fault for 94 I agree, but he didn't save the Dem party  LeviathanCrumbling   Feb-08-08 11:43 PM   #79 
  - I agree with you on that one!  CaptJasHook   Feb-08-08 11:57 PM   #96 
  - Bill's a big boy.  Unbowed   Feb-09-08 12:23 AM   #122 
  - I disagree with the Clintons on basic philosophy of governance  Jed Dilligan   Feb-09-08 12:25 AM   #126 
  - You have not responded to the one issue that our party overlooks but  grantcart   Feb-09-08 12:34 AM   #132 
  - i think its actually rather forgotten  DiamondJay   Feb-09-08 12:39 AM   #137 
     - my point is that just because the democrats do not bring it up  grantcart   Feb-09-08 01:58 AM   #152 
  - When Bill stops acting like that nutbag  48percenter   Feb-09-08 12:35 AM   #133 
  - That's some pretty stunning revisionist history.  Political Heretic   Feb-09-08 12:42 AM   #139 
  - Thank god! There ARE still sane people on DU.  pirhana   Feb-09-08 01:06 AM   #149 
  - I will lay off Bill when he lays off Obama. n/t  MiltonF   Feb-09-08 01:11 AM   #151 
  - FUCK BILL CLINTON...I despise that tool more than I do his wife  mitchum   Feb-09-08 09:49 AM   #154 
  - Back when offshoring was in its infancy... times have changed.  HypnoToad   Feb-09-08 09:59 AM   #158 
  - we must never forget  kcdoug1   Feb-09-08 11:16 AM   #160 
  - yea cuz they appointed Thomas, OConnor, Scalia, Rehnquist and Kennedy  DiamondJay   Feb-09-08 11:45 AM   #167 
  - He was the best Republican president we have ever had! nt  Quixote1818   Feb-09-08 11:20 AM   #161 
  - NO, Bill and Hill are a team...  tokenlib   Feb-09-08 11:24 AM   #162 
  - NO. Maybe if he stayed out of it  BrentTaylor   Feb-09-08 11:25 AM   #163 
  - SINCE THE CLINTON LOANED THEMSELVES $5 MILL & WON'T RELEASE FINANCIALS....  mod mom   Feb-09-08 11:40 AM   #165 
  - Under Clinton "White House Had Ended System of Checking Foreign Guests"  mod mom   Feb-09-08 11:42 AM   #166 
  - I'll lay off Bill when he stops running for President n/t  alteredstate   Feb-09-08 11:51 AM   #169 
 

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