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LulaMay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-09-08 02:27 PM
Response to Reply #181
197. Thank you....We're taught that it's the 'natural order' of things, and that we should comply.
It's a hard thing for women to shake off....especially because we live with men, love men in our lives. It is INCREDIBLY difficult to think of them as part of the group that has oppressed us. It's hard to challenge the men, our loved ones, to face their own sexism when it pops up, and to change, to speak up to other men. Many women live with a man who it is near impossible to take that risk with, and no woman likes it when her husband or boyfriend gets upset or defensive with her, angry, if we point it out to them.

Sometimes you'd just rather go to bed and get a decent night sleep. :)
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  -It's about time people started talking about SEXISM. The media & HRC, liberal SILENCE LulaMay  Feb-08-08 09:01 PM   #0 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Feb-08-08 09:02 PM   #1 
  - go crawl back into your cave.  Maine-ah   Feb-08-08 09:06 PM   #6 
  - You should see how NBC treats women who work there  neutron   Feb-08-08 09:16 PM   #29 
  - Zucker sucks. nt  femrap   Feb-08-08 10:28 PM   #116 
  - Pardon me, I want front row  sheelz   Feb-09-08 11:38 AM   #180 
  - What an astute comment. Women will not 'get over' being treated like garbage.  LulaMay   Feb-08-08 09:08 PM   #9 
  - Sweetie baby honey pie, I think you're in the wrong party. n/t  LandOLincoln   Feb-08-08 09:10 PM   #14 
     - deleted....  femrap   Feb-08-08 10:29 PM   #117 
  - Good post - but I think you meant to credit mediamatters.org  spooky3   Feb-08-08 09:02 PM   #2 
  - Yes, thank you. I donated money to them today.  LulaMay   Feb-08-08 09:11 PM   #17 
  - Obama and his minions are getting alot of traction out...  AX10   Feb-08-08 09:04 PM   #3 
  - I am with you there.  DURHAM D   Feb-08-08 09:06 PM   #7 
     - He is a goose stepper  AngryAmish   Feb-08-08 09:26 PM   #54 
  - To quote my mother: "What's up with this, it's like women are some kind of aliens that came from  BleedingHeartPatriot   Feb-08-08 09:04 PM   #4 
  - I like your mom's style. :)  LulaMay   Feb-08-08 10:20 PM   #111 
  - Yes, she is awesome. nm  Alamom   Feb-09-08 05:08 AM   #171 
  - As a woman myself...  ingac70   Feb-08-08 09:05 PM   #5 
  - Exactly - war is not a feminist principle.  heraldsqure   Feb-08-08 09:07 PM   #8 
  - If you have a problem with her voting record, so be it.  Sparkly   Feb-08-08 09:08 PM   #10 
  - That's not a voting record, that's dead women and children. nt  heraldsqure   Feb-08-08 09:11 PM   #15 
     - Fine, you feel that way, does that mean you accept sexism? nt  MassDemm   Feb-09-08 03:21 PM   #203 
  - You are changing the subject. Do you approve of sexism? Because she is being attacked with it.  LulaMay   Feb-08-08 09:10 PM   #13 
  - Nope. But it's less of an issue than the killing of women and children.  heraldsqure   Feb-08-08 09:11 PM   #16 
  - SEXISM has EVERYTHING to do with the KILLING of women and children. That's how important it is.  LulaMay   Feb-08-08 09:13 PM   #20 
  - So you're saying Hillary is a sexist? nt  heraldsqure   Feb-08-08 09:14 PM   #24 
  - Sexism is not as bad as a govt policy of bombing women and children  heraldsqure   Feb-08-08 09:37 PM   #70 
     - You are changing the subject. Criticizing her politics...okay, calling her daughter a whore is not  LulaMay   Feb-08-08 11:03 PM   #138 
     - What is your point  never_get_over_it   Feb-09-08 10:31 AM   #177 
  - Did you vote for John Kerry?  BlackVelvet04   Feb-08-08 09:23 PM   #45 
     - the primary was over by the time it got to NY  heraldsqure   Feb-08-08 09:35 PM   #65 
        - Funny how one can compromise one's principles when it suits them. n/t  BlackVelvet04   Feb-08-08 09:38 PM   #72 
        - I couldn't vote for an alternative in the primary then.  heraldsqure   Feb-08-08 09:41 PM   #78 
        - Then you voted for someone who supported the war...  BooScout   Feb-09-08 05:36 AM   #174 
  - She isn't being attacked for her gender...  ingac70   Feb-08-08 09:15 PM   #27 
     - When she's attacked for her voting record, fine.  Sparkly   Feb-08-08 09:18 PM   #33 
     - Its the voting record AND the fact that she's just plain not LIKEABLE to  K Gardner   Feb-08-08 09:23 PM   #44 
     - And most of these people bitching about the IWR vote VOTED FOR JOHN KERRY......fucking hypocrits.  BlackVelvet04   Feb-08-08 09:24 PM   #48 
        - Well, I remember a lot of arguing about that, too.  Sparkly   Feb-08-08 09:25 PM   #52 
        - I'm sure her vote for Kyl/Lieberman...  ingac70   Feb-08-08 09:27 PM   #60 
     - Well, at least she didn't vote "present"  Darth_Kitten   Feb-09-08 11:07 AM   #178 
        - The warmongering road is so much better...  ingac70   Feb-09-08 11:34 AM   #179 
  - Obama has had the exact same record as Hillary on iraq since joining the senate  billbuckhead   Feb-08-08 09:26 PM   #53 
     - But he spoke out against the war even though he didn't have to.  heraldsqure   Feb-08-08 09:39 PM   #74 
  - I see. So it's okay for David Schuster to imply that  LandOLincoln   Feb-08-08 09:09 PM   #11 
  - Shuster was pointing out that until Hillary was in trouble Chelsea wasn't part of the campaign  heraldsqure   Feb-08-08 10:30 PM   #118 
  - No, he was calling her a whore and her mother and father pimps. That's why HE'S GONE.  LulaMay   Feb-08-08 11:18 PM   #149 
  - deleted...  femrap   Feb-08-08 10:33 PM   #119 
  - If you think she's being placed on a pedestal, you're not listening to anything in the media.  LulaMay   Feb-08-08 09:09 PM   #12 
  - The pedestal she is placed on...  ingac70   Feb-08-08 09:12 PM   #18 
  - and obama funds that very same war....  BlackVelvet04   Feb-08-08 09:25 PM   #51 
  - And you're saying the same to  femrap   Feb-08-08 10:34 PM   #120 
  - Bottom Line, men wont vote for women period  UALRBSofL   Feb-08-08 09:19 PM   #38 
     - I'm a man and I will vote for her.  CaptJasHook   Feb-08-08 10:45 PM   #128 
     - My husband and sons voted for her. We need progressive men who speak out, thank you.  LulaMay   Feb-08-08 11:04 PM   #139 
        - I know more than a few. So take heart.  CaptJasHook   Feb-08-08 11:12 PM   #141 
           - Thank you.  LulaMay   Feb-08-08 11:19 PM   #150 
     - this is absolutely true, at least to a degree. many men believe that god and nature intended them to  VotesForWomen   Feb-09-08 01:35 PM   #185 
  - Yeah, damn her for not being perfect......  BlackVelvet04   Feb-08-08 09:20 PM   #41 
  - Hillary is a warmongering asshole...  ingac70   Feb-08-08 09:44 PM   #84 
  - I bet you voted for John Kerry.....  BlackVelvet04   Feb-08-08 09:22 PM   #43 
  - No, I did not vote...  ingac70   Feb-08-08 09:43 PM   #82 
  - Then you are truly an asshole.  femrap   Feb-08-08 10:39 PM   #123 
     - I don't vote for warmongers.  ingac70   Feb-08-08 11:24 PM   # 
     - Boy you are right. Wonder how not voting in 2004 is working out for em. Talk about blood on their  kikiek   Feb-09-08 08:32 AM   #175 
  - Her war votes are horrible  Mojorabbit   Feb-08-08 09:57 PM   #91 
  - But another DUer told me she'd end the Iraq war to pay for the healthcare initiatives  HypnoToad   Feb-08-08 09:37 PM   #69 
  - The OP is not about people who criticize her for her policies or voting record.  pnwmom   Feb-09-08 03:25 PM   #205 
  - Oh lordy.. as SOUTHERN hardworking women, my friends and family and I are ALL  K Gardner   Feb-08-08 09:13 PM   #19 
  - amen.  skooooo   Feb-08-08 09:13 PM   #22 
  - Then you are turning a blind eye to how you, we are treated.  LulaMay   Feb-08-08 09:14 PM   #25 
  - Errr.. I'm treated just FINE. I earn a substantial living and am highly respected in my field, have  K Gardner   Feb-08-08 09:19 PM   #39 
     - Are you in a male-dominated or gender-neutral field?  spooky3   Feb-08-08 09:34 PM   #63 
     - Because I've been able to "make it" as a professional.. I'm questioned about the "gender" of "my  K Gardner   Feb-08-08 09:39 PM   #75 
        - I am asking you whether you are in a male-dominated field or a gender  spooky3   Feb-08-08 09:42 PM   #80 
        - Are you even remotely aware that as a Level One Trauma Nurse I work with mostly men? Or are you  K Gardner   Feb-08-08 10:02 PM   #95 
           - "Male-dominated" refers to the gender of the incumbents who hold  spooky3   Feb-08-08 10:34 PM   #121 
        - but you were perfectly content to put your southern woman label on your sleeve just a few posts ago  Donnachaidh   Feb-08-08 10:39 PM   #122 
     - You see yourself in a vaccum, separate from being a woman. We are insulted every day.  LulaMay   Feb-08-08 09:50 PM   #88 
     - Deleted message  Name removed   Feb-08-08 10:05 PM   #98 
        - Do you have a point? I can withstand being attacked for speaking out.  LulaMay   Feb-08-08 10:24 PM   #114 
        - there's that FEIGNED outrage again.  Donnachaidh   Feb-08-08 10:41 PM   #124 
     - Bully for you.  alarimer   Feb-09-08 03:29 PM   #207 
  - But any slight against Barack Obama is still racist, right?  readmoreoften   Feb-08-08 09:18 PM   #37 
  - Well, lots of southern women have very low expectations for women....  BlackVelvet04   Feb-08-08 09:26 PM   #56 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Feb-08-08 09:35 PM   #64 
     - She's not my hero....  BlackVelvet04   Feb-08-08 09:40 PM   #76 
  - yeah, and you were screaming racism a little while ago, weren't you? nt  VotesForWomen   Feb-09-08 01:34 PM   #184 
  - I'm not going to "get over it" until it's STOPS.  pnwmom   Feb-09-08 03:27 PM   #206 
  - BRAVO! Our party was progressive about women until a woman ran for President.  goldcanyonaz   Feb-08-08 09:13 PM   #21 
  - It's amazing.  Sparkly   Feb-08-08 09:14 PM   #26 
  - Same with Trek until Capt. Janeway. The shit she takes on Trek boards is amazing.  MookieWilson   Feb-08-08 09:18 PM   #36 
  - At least Kirk never turned into a lizard.  hedgehog   Feb-08-08 09:22 PM   #42 
  - It really hasn't been that progressive about women  OzarkDem   Feb-09-08 03:56 PM   #212 
  - Your post has good points but I am offended by your claim that I have been silent about  AlinPA   Feb-08-08 09:14 PM   #23 
  - Tell me where the liberal community has been very vocal about this. Vocal as they should be.  LulaMay   Feb-08-08 09:17 PM   #30 
  - IMO, the argument  tyne   Feb-08-08 09:17 PM   #31 
     - Why don't you visit mediamatters.org  spooky3   Feb-08-08 09:27 PM   #61 
     - Have you heard of Stockholm Syndrome? We have been victimized, but we are POWERFUL.  LulaMay   Feb-08-08 09:35 PM   #66 
  - if Hillary isn't the candidate who come out with the nomination  Bluerthanblue   Feb-08-08 09:15 PM   #28 
  - That is ridiculous. You are refusing to acknowledge that sexism has an effect, unlike racism?  LulaMay   Feb-08-08 09:18 PM   #34 
     - no I'm refusing to let a very capable powerful person play  Bluerthanblue   Feb-08-08 09:31 PM   #62 
        - She does not play a victim. She ignores the media sexism. She is powerful.  LulaMay   Feb-08-08 09:38 PM   #73 
           - then why do you encourage us to do any different?  Bluerthanblue   Feb-08-08 09:49 PM   #86 
              - It is POWERFUL to confront sexism, it is weak, built of fear, to deny it exists.  LulaMay   Feb-08-08 09:52 PM   #90 
                 - I don't deny that when you address a wrong you will be met with  Bluerthanblue   Feb-08-08 10:08 PM   #103 
  - All I can say to this is  sniffa   Feb-08-08 09:17 PM   #32 
  - I'm an Obama supporter and I emailed MSNBC about Schuster's remark.  thecatburgler   Feb-08-08 09:18 PM   #35 
  - Women do not have to identify themselves as feminists to believe in themselves, to want equality.  LulaMay   Feb-08-08 09:26 PM   #55 
  - So those 2 women are feminist? Sorry, don't think so.  thecatburgler   Feb-08-08 09:38 PM   #71 
     - That was not the content of my remark. I am talking about women in general.  LulaMay   Feb-08-08 10:00 PM   #93 
        - They're not.  thecatburgler   Feb-08-08 10:07 PM   #99 
           - You are missing the point. Women are turning out to vote, for her, in numbers never seen.  LulaMay   Feb-08-08 10:12 PM   #106 
  - And good for you. So did I. :)  LulaMay   Feb-08-08 09:27 PM   #59 
  - If someone shouted "shine my shoes" at Obama, I think it would have raised a stink, rightfully so.  MookieWilson   Feb-08-08 09:20 PM   #40 
  - Thank you!!  Sparkly   Feb-08-08 09:24 PM   #49 
  - Everyone in the media chuckled over the iron my shirt remarks  ruggerson   Feb-08-08 09:27 PM   #57 
  - Sexism is still acceptable in America. Racism is hardly acceptable at all. That is the difference,  McCamy Taylor   Feb-08-08 09:23 PM   #46 
  - Make a racist comment, get fired. Make a sexist comment, get laughs. nt  MookieWilson   Feb-08-08 09:41 PM   #79 
  - Halleluliah!  ruggerson   Feb-08-08 09:24 PM   #47 
  - What's wrong with being sexy?  AngryAmish   Feb-08-08 09:24 PM   #50 
  - I always use that line. Grrr.  Bonobo   Feb-08-08 09:27 PM   #58 
     - IF you only would have told me...  AngryAmish   Feb-08-08 10:08 PM   #102 
  - The only people making it a sexist issue are the sexists.  HypnoToad   Feb-08-08 09:35 PM   #67 
  - You have no point. Your response is irrational and defensive, without substance.  LulaMay   Feb-08-08 09:42 PM   #81 
  - And the only ones making an 'issue' (ie; protest) of racism are who then, racists?  LulaMay   Feb-08-08 09:44 PM   #83 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Feb-08-08 09:35 PM   #68 
  - Another astute comment. Perhaps you are sexist or haven't dealt with it....likely I'd say.  LulaMay   Feb-08-08 09:40 PM   #77 
  - YES!  susanr516   Feb-08-08 09:45 PM   #85 
  - I agree!  goldcanyonaz   Feb-08-08 09:50 PM   #87 
  - I guess y'all missed the T-shirts people were wearing  UALRBSofL   Feb-08-08 09:50 PM   #89 
     - No, I haven't seen that  susanr516   Feb-08-08 10:22 PM   #113 
  - There are millions of gender-based abuses for me to get angry over  Jed Dilligan   Feb-08-08 09:59 PM   #92 
  - When she is attacked for being a woman, it is an attack on all women.  LulaMay   Feb-08-08 10:02 PM   #96 
     - I don't buy into all the gymnastics people do  Jed Dilligan   Feb-08-08 10:08 PM   #104 
     - would you say the same about the attacks on Ann coulter?  Whisp   Feb-08-08 10:44 PM   #127 
        - She is a bigot, maybe mentally ill, but I don't like sexist jokes that she looks like a man, etc..  LulaMay   Feb-08-08 10:52 PM   #133 
           - that's the only right answer there is.  Whisp   Feb-08-08 11:07 PM   #140 
  - If she wanted to be taken seriously  riverwalker   Feb-08-08 10:01 PM   #94 
  - She IS being taken seriously. That's why she's being attacked so vehemently.  LulaMay   Feb-08-08 10:07 PM   #100 
  - Agreed.. just look at this thread and the OP berating women who don't  K Gardner   Feb-08-08 10:07 PM   #101 
  - I have not berated anybody. I am responding with points, not name calling.  LulaMay   Feb-08-08 10:14 PM   #108 
  - That is so wrong  UALRBSofL   Feb-08-08 10:09 PM   #105 
  - Pretty tough to battle when Women are still contributing to the problem.  mzmolly   Feb-08-08 10:03 PM   #97 
  - Would you blame minorities for racism? No matter how they reacted to it as individuals?  LulaMay   Feb-08-08 10:18 PM   #110 
     - I don't see minorities contribute to racism in the manner I see women contribute to this problem.  mzmolly   Feb-08-08 10:21 PM   #112 
        - It's called blaming the victim. Women live with men, love men, our situation makes solidarity hard  LulaMay   Feb-08-08 10:43 PM   #126 
           - I disagree.  mzmolly   Feb-08-08 10:51 PM   #132 
              - Then you do not see sexism in the same light as racism.  LulaMay   Feb-08-08 10:53 PM   #134 
                 - Sure I do. I just don't see minorities contributing to racism and defending racism as  mzmolly   Feb-08-08 11:21 PM   # 
                    - What about my pointing out the differences in our situations? Living with and loving men  LulaMay   Feb-09-08 01:08 AM   #169 
                       - What I've said is that the "onus" is upon us all.  mzmolly   Feb-09-08 02:09 PM   #191 
                          - Again, that is like blaming black people 4 racism. And, excuse me, but women are slaves still  LulaMay   Feb-09-08 02:16 PM   #195 
                             - Sorry women are "free" to vote, work, own property, etc. We have equal rights under the law.  mzmolly   Feb-09-08 02:39 PM   #198 
                                - No, there is NO ERA, no guarantee of equal rights, and women are still enslaved  LulaMay   Feb-09-08 03:15 PM   #199 
                                - Anyone who has read my posts here on sexism  mzmolly   Feb-09-08 03:53 PM   #210 
                                - AND the rights we have won are due to brave women who acknowledge and fight sexism.  LulaMay   Feb-09-08 03:17 PM   #201 
                                   - Which brings us back to the original point I made in this thread.  mzmolly   Feb-09-08 03:54 PM   #211 
  - Uh  miceelf   Feb-08-08 10:13 PM   #107 
  - cicada  ElsewheresDaughter   Feb-08-08 10:14 PM   #109 
  - K and R....great post, Lula May. nt  femrap   Feb-08-08 10:26 PM   #115 
  - Can you imagine someone screaming "shine my shoes" at BO? but "Iron my shrit" at HC was OK  adapa   Feb-08-08 10:42 PM   #125 
  - I like Robin Morgan so much. Thanks. nt  LulaMay   Feb-08-08 10:45 PM   #129 
  - there is no doubt that sexism is alive and well.  Whisp   Feb-08-08 10:51 PM   #131 
  - Yet Kerry got a pass on IWR  UALRBSofL   Feb-08-08 11:13 PM   #143 
     - is Kerry in the race?  Whisp   Feb-08-08 11:16 PM   #146 
  - And, of course, that's worse than bombing women and children.  heraldsqure   Feb-08-08 10:59 PM   #137 
     - It is not ok to use war as an excuse to attack her w sexism/ it is the root of much violence & war.  LulaMay   Feb-08-08 11:12 PM   #142 
     - I'm not "attacking her with sexism"; I'm objecting to a feminist defense of her  heraldsqure   Feb-08-08 11:17 PM   #147 
     - PS- You are making a repetitive red herring.  LulaMay   Feb-08-08 11:14 PM   #144 
        - Bombs aren't red herrings, they're bombs. nt  heraldsqure   Feb-08-08 11:17 PM   #148 
  - ANY criticism of hillary is sexist !!!!!!  HuffleClaw   Feb-08-08 10:46 PM   #130 
  - That's right! Mark Penn says so and Media-Matters put that mean ole' tweety bird in his place!  ShortnFiery   Feb-08-08 10:56 PM   #135 
  - Red herring. Criticizing her politics, actions isn't sexist, but calling her daughter a whore is.  LulaMay   Feb-08-08 10:58 PM   #136 
  - Misquoting is below you. He called her parents "Pimping her" plus she's 27 years old.  ShortnFiery   Feb-08-08 11:16 PM   #145 
     - What is a woman who is 'pimped' called? Schuster is GONE because it was so offensive.  LulaMay   Feb-08-08 11:22 PM   #153 
     - PS- That's pretty silly to imply it was okay to call her parents pimps!  LulaMay   Feb-08-08 11:26 PM   #156 
  - No, but some critcism of Hillary HAS been sexist, nt  CaptJasHook   Feb-08-08 11:22 PM   #152 
  - No. Only the "tears" and the "claws" ones. The IWR&al ones are legit.  robbedvoter   Feb-08-08 11:24 PM   #154 
  - Agreed. I wasn't aware of the depth of my feelings on this. The more they kick  robbedvoter   Feb-08-08 11:21 PM   #151 
  - I think a lot of women feel that way, and the Dem men should pay attention.  LulaMay   Feb-08-08 11:24 PM   #155 
  - I call bullshit. The liberal community is supposed to defend HIllary? Who's being sexist?  sparosnare   Feb-08-08 11:30 PM   #157 
  - Where have you been? She has been called a bitch, now a pimp, implying her daughters a whore.  LulaMay   Feb-08-08 11:35 PM   #158 
  - Calling BS on sexism, no matter what woman is attacked, is speaking up 4 all women  LulaMay   Feb-08-08 11:37 PM   #159 
  - So, whore, slut bitch are the only accepted sexist attacks in your book?  robbedvoter   Feb-08-08 11:40 PM   #160 
     - No, unfortunately there are too many to list them all.  LulaMay   Feb-08-08 11:51 PM   #162 
  - I'm also offended by the words "Bitch", "Witch" for Hillary  pathansen   Feb-08-08 11:51 PM   #161 
  - Maybe it's Clinton's fault? Isn't everything usually blamed on him?  Life Long Dem   Feb-08-08 11:52 PM   #163 
  - It's NOT EVER "The Clintons' Fault" - Like "The Bushes" it's always someone ELSE who is to blame.  ShortnFiery   Feb-08-08 11:54 PM   #164 
     - Can you make a point, backed up with facts, instead of simple accusations?  LulaMay   Feb-09-08 12:01 AM   #165 
     - I want to see Hillary stand up to the networks on this one!  Life Long Dem   Feb-09-08 12:06 AM   #166 
        - She isn't stupid. It is better for her to not to respond. It's up to us to protest.  LulaMay   Feb-09-08 12:16 AM   #167 
           - It just doesn't look good when Obama's name is even mentioned.  Life Long Dem   Feb-09-08 12:28 AM   #168 
              - Yah  miceelf   Feb-09-08 04:57 AM   #170 
  - Hillary will win  hill08   Feb-09-08 05:24 AM   #172 
  - is voting for Obama sexist?  thesubstanceofdreams   Feb-09-08 05:28 AM   #173 
  - Is a vote for Hillary racist? I didn't say that. I said women will feel stomped on..  LulaMay   Feb-09-08 02:09 PM   #192 
  - I think it's wrong to assume criticism of Hillary must be inherently sexist.  grace0418   Feb-09-08 10:01 AM   #176 
  - Don't skew my arguement. I said she is being slammed with sexism.  LulaMay   Feb-09-08 01:51 PM   #189 
     - I agree that nobody should be throwing sexist terms around, just as nobody  grace0418   Feb-09-08 02:08 PM   #190 
        - Women HAVE been turning out 'en masse' to vote for her, and our party is taking that 4 granted.  LulaMay   Feb-09-08 02:12 PM   #193 
           - SOME women have. I haven't. Nor have any of my female friends. That's my point.  grace0418   Feb-09-08 03:58 PM   #213 
  - Thank you for articulating this  Annces   Feb-09-08 11:45 AM   #181 
  - Thank you....We're taught that it's the 'natural order' of things, and that we should comply.  LulaMay   Feb-09-08 02:27 PM   #197 
  - ANOTHER LAME ASS SEXISM POST  nomad1776   Feb-09-08 12:41 PM   #182 
  - You just don't want to admit sexism exists......  Darth_Kitten   Feb-09-08 01:14 PM   #183 
  - More like hypocrisy exists  nomad1776   Feb-09-08 09:08 PM   #220 
  - If you don't admit sexism exists, is being uasd against HRC, YOU'RE SEXIST.  LulaMay   Feb-09-08 01:47 PM   #186 
  - ROFLMAO!  nomad1776   Feb-09-08 09:06 PM   #219 
  - By the way, very astute LAME ASS post. I'm so scared of your loud name calling!  LulaMay   Feb-09-08 01:48 PM   #188 
     - Don't like names act in an appropriate manner  nomad1776   Feb-09-08 09:05 PM   #218 
  - As a woman myself  OzarkDem   Feb-09-08 01:47 PM   #187 
  - Hillary's opposition is not about sexism  Capn Sunshine   Feb-09-08 02:13 PM   #194 
  - Don't skew my arguement. I said she is being slammed with sexism. Criticize her politics is legit.  LulaMay   Feb-09-08 02:21 PM   #196 
  - It's time Hillaryites started talking about warrantless wiretapping  Leopolds Ghost   Feb-09-08 03:16 PM   #200 
  - Why? Because you don't want to talk about sexism? GO VOLUNTEER AT A WOMENS SHELTER  LulaMay   Feb-09-08 03:20 PM   #202 
  - Because DLC Dems are about to legalize wiretapping, NOT rape or ban abortion  Leopolds Ghost   Feb-09-08 04:04 PM   #215 
  - Post about her politics if you want, but be honest enough to respond to THIS TOPIC.  LulaMay   Feb-09-08 03:21 PM   #204 
     - I'M REALLY GETTING SICK OF THIS SEXISM AND ABUSE. This is why Dems will lose women voters.  LulaMay   Feb-09-08 03:33 PM   #208 
     - This anger was a big part of Hillarys win in NH-  adapa   Feb-09-08 03:48 PM   #209 
     - I am not sexist towards Clinton... marriage as a path to political power for women is problematic.  Leopolds Ghost   Feb-09-08 04:07 PM   #216 
  - Women presidents/prime ministers are not always wonderful  bambino   Feb-09-08 04:03 PM   #214 
  - Word. Thank G0d for digbysblog, feministing, pamshouseblend.com, etc.  greeneyedboy   Feb-09-08 06:33 PM   #217 
 

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