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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-04-08 10:58 AM
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72. Same thing. 2 spheres of influence. Soldiers of the main actors are mere surrogates
By himself, Kerry wouldn't have been able to knock Gore from the race.
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  -Washington Post: Obama benefits from biased "blowout coverage" bidenista  Feb-04-08 09:20 AM   #0 
  - Thanks for posting. This is quite an interesting article, although we've seen the  Alamom   Feb-04-08 09:25 AM   #1 
  - Coverage like that is worth millions of dollars.  avaistheone1   Feb-04-08 09:26 AM   #2 
  - The next followup question would be WHY?  Tellurian   Feb-04-08 09:31 AM   #3 
     - Caroline never knew her father?? Try telling HER that. What a shameless and nasty shill of a post.  K Gardner   Feb-04-08 09:32 AM   #4 
     - Of course she never knew him. Are you daft?  Tellurian   Feb-04-08 09:50 AM   #24 
        - She knew him as a child knows a father  karynnj   Feb-04-08 10:04 AM   #54 
           - I believe you misread the second half of Tellurian's post. Why wld Caroline align herself w/ MSM..  elixir   Feb-04-08 10:15 AM   #59 
              - I read it right - I simply disagree that they  karynnj   Feb-04-08 11:14 AM   #75 
     - Because Obama is the best candidate the Democrats have run in decades.  Occam Bandage   Feb-04-08 09:34 AM   #5 
     - Far better than Gore, or Clark ...and the MSM just always LOVES good candidates.non?  robbedvoter   Feb-04-08 09:40 AM   #13 
     - I think so, yes. The question was why the Kennedys endorsed Obama, not  Occam Bandage   Feb-04-08 09:44 AM   #19 
     - Same reason he endorsed Kerry + the power struggle in the party. The rest  robbedvoter   Feb-04-08 09:51 AM   #27 
     - Conspiratorial sour grapes. nt  Occam Bandage   Feb-04-08 09:54 AM   #35 
        - We may or we may not see reality confirm that. I'd rather we don't  robbedvoter   Feb-04-08 09:57 AM   #43 
           - Or so you desperately hope.  Occam Bandage   Feb-04-08 09:58 AM   #45 
     - The MSM backs the best and most recent story, nothing more. They have no moral compunction becuase  elixir   Feb-04-08 10:16 AM   #62 
     - Well, then based on your negative reasoning, our best candidate ...  krkaufman   Feb-04-08 09:52 AM   #32 
     - Obama is a media creation.. nothing more.. and comparing him to JFK is a denial of reality....  Tellurian   Feb-04-08 09:59 AM   #46 
        - No. Obama creates media coverage. It must seem bizarre to a supporter of someone  Occam Bandage   Feb-04-08 10:08 AM   #57 
           - Hillary has a record to stand on...Obama stands on a resume of non-accomplishments and thin air!  Tellurian   Feb-04-08 12:06 PM   #78 
     - blind, love struck Caroline  LowerManhattanite   Feb-04-08 09:45 AM   #21 
        - If Caroline can equate Obama to her father...then she's off her rocker!  Tellurian   Feb-04-08 09:51 AM   #28 
           - I think she knows both better than you do.  Occam Bandage   Feb-04-08 09:54 AM   #37 
           - And now, she's mentally ill...  LowerManhattanite   Feb-04-08 09:58 AM   #44 
           - I'm just glad I have whoever this putz is on ignore. nt  thecatburgler   Feb-04-08 10:04 AM   #51 
           - Caroline explained, at her endorsement of Obama..  Tellurian   Feb-04-08 10:04 AM   #53 
           - Do you know Obama better than she does?  karynnj   Feb-04-08 10:13 AM   #58 
           - Agreed. That's just like equating Humpin' Henry Hyde's marriage  desi   Feb-04-08 10:35 AM   #70 
  - So are you saying Obama has worked the MSM better than Hillary? And...  sfam   Feb-04-08 09:36 AM   #6 
  - no, i'm not saying that. read the article  bidenista   Feb-04-08 09:38 AM   #8 
  - Obama didn't "work" the MSM - MSM is working the voters - manipulating our  robbedvoter   Feb-04-08 09:42 AM   #16 
  - more and more--the biased coverage for Obama is coming out. The sheepies just lap it up.  rodeodance   Feb-04-08 09:52 AM   #30 
  - "he gave them the keys to Camelot." HA HA--guess Fairy Tales are full swing in the  rodeodance   Feb-04-08 09:50 AM   #26 
     - I always wondered where Teddy kept those keys and why did he never use them  robbedvoter   Feb-04-08 09:52 AM   #31 
     - What exactly do you think Kennedy said in his endorsement? Deal with it.  sfam   Feb-04-08 09:53 AM   #33 
        - he gave him the fairy tale that never was.  rodeodance   Feb-04-08 01:12 PM   #79 
  - K&R!  William769   Feb-04-08 09:38 AM   #7 
  - here's another good observation:  robbedvoter   Feb-04-08 09:38 AM   #9 
  - Two notes.  Occam Bandage   Feb-04-08 09:43 AM   #17 
  - The MSM is setting...  AX10   Feb-04-08 07:52 PM   #86 
  - Huh. So Obama is much better at controlling the media narrative than Hillary.  Occam Bandage   Feb-04-08 09:38 AM   #10 
  - He never had to control it  leftynyc   Feb-04-08 09:54 AM   #38 
     - He does make it seem effortless. Hallmark of a talented politician. Hillary is hamfisted  Occam Bandage   Feb-04-08 09:55 AM   #41 
        - No talent involved by Obama when msm does the kid glove approach when  rodeodance   Feb-04-08 10:02 AM   #50 
           - Nothing happens by happenstance in politics. Obama's playing them like a piano.  Occam Bandage   Feb-04-08 10:04 AM   #52 
              - I hope I'll miss the part where the piano eats the pianist. I trully do!  robbedvoter   Feb-04-08 11:02 AM   #74 
  - The reason is that the nation has been waiting for a new JFK since JFK was killed  Dems Will Win   Feb-04-08 09:39 AM   #11 
  - Hillary had a stranglehold of the media for months  NJSecularist   Feb-04-08 09:40 AM   #12 
  - Hillary never got favorable coverage - Obama love=Hillary hate (that never changed)  robbedvoter   Feb-04-08 09:44 AM   #18 
  - Col. Kurtz on DU: Just when I think I've seen it all.  chascarrillo   Feb-04-08 09:40 AM   #14 
  - You mean, as opposed to every other media whore quoted in support of Obama  robbedvoter   Feb-04-08 09:45 AM   #20 
  - No. In conjunction with.  chascarrillo   Feb-04-08 09:48 AM   #23 
  - How Rovian of you--kill the messenger.  rodeodance   Feb-04-08 09:54 AM   #36 
     - It's somehow "Rovian" of me to ridicule a right-wing media pundit?  chascarrillo   Feb-04-08 07:46 PM   #85 
  - It is expected that the Democratic Party establishment will support Hillary Clinton  Apollo11   Feb-04-08 09:41 AM   #15 
  - Hog wash! Kennedy's are establishment. They along with MSM  Little Star   Feb-04-08 09:50 AM   #25 
     - I was just saying why Kennedys endorsing Obama gets media coverage.  Apollo11   Feb-04-08 09:56 AM   #42 
  - Suggesting a different frame for this...  Duke Newcombe   Feb-04-08 09:48 AM   #22 
  - Kurtz...  LowerManhattanite   Feb-04-08 09:51 AM   #29 
  - That's an ad-hominem attack  Summerza   Feb-04-08 06:43 PM   #84 
  - It was a big deal because it was assumed that the Kennedy's would endorse Clinton. The story wasn't  RoadRage   Feb-04-08 09:54 AM   #34 
  - Exactly!!! n/t  sfam   Feb-04-08 09:55 AM   #40 
  - Assumed by whom? kerry already endorsed Obama - and we knew the rivalry  robbedvoter   Feb-04-08 09:59 AM   #47 
  - What rivalry? By all accounts they are very close. Talk about revisionism! Forget the MSM,  sfam   Feb-04-08 10:01 AM   #49 
  - DU has been abuzz with speculations - "Clinton didn't help Kerry in 2004 because  robbedvoter   Feb-04-08 10:16 AM   #60 
     - We are talking about Kennedy and Clinton, not Kerry and Clinton n/t  sfam   Feb-04-08 10:18 AM   #65 
        - Same thing. 2 spheres of influence. Soldiers of the main actors are mere surrogates  robbedvoter   Feb-04-08 10:58 AM   #72 
  - Kennedy and Clinton are fairly close friends. You're simply making up "facts."  Occam Bandage   Feb-04-08 10:05 AM   #55 
  - By "We" you must mean you & a friend? Because I certainly knew of NO  RoadRage   Feb-04-08 10:16 AM   #63 
     - Find me a kerry supporter from 2004 supporting Hillary (even temporarily, before  robbedvoter   Feb-04-08 10:20 AM   #68 
        - My post doesn't discuss Kerry at all - only Kennedy. NT  RoadRage   Feb-04-08 11:35 AM   #77 
  - Although there were clues that he was not enthusiastic about HRC even before 2007  karynnj   Feb-04-08 10:20 AM   #67 
     - Thank you for the honest contribution. The signs were there for anyone paying attention  robbedvoter   Feb-04-08 11:00 AM   #73 
  - Face it, the corporate Media get to chose the POTUS-voters are a mear formailty  adapa   Feb-04-08 09:54 AM   #39 
  - Every. Single. Time. Eliminated progressive candidates, and now try toget rid of  robbedvoter   Feb-04-08 10:18 AM   #66 
  - It is a double edged sword. [see NH] nt  mckeown1128   Feb-04-08 10:01 AM   #48 
  - Interesting analysis - I'm feeling more and more what John hinted at last week  Politicub   Feb-04-08 10:06 AM   #56 
  - Hell, even the CNN poll which shows the race tightening  bigtree   Feb-04-08 10:16 AM   #61 
  - So, suddenly Kurts is the Media Oracle  NoBorders   Feb-04-08 10:17 AM   #64 
  - I have a dream -of a PR machine. Like political photoshop  guruoo   Feb-04-08 10:26 AM   #69 
  - looks like a good meal there. nt  bidenista   Feb-04-08 10:39 AM   #71 
     - Here's the pre PR machine image:  guruoo   Feb-04-08 11:29 AM   #76 
  - Very interesting.  avrdream   Feb-04-08 06:22 PM   #80 
  - Howard Kurtz has talent  Summerza   Feb-04-08 06:23 PM   #81 
  - the media is about as phoney as the voting computers in Ohio  cd3dem   Feb-04-08 06:25 PM   #82 
  - So where was this moaning about "blowout coverage" back before NH?  high density   Feb-04-08 06:30 PM   #83 
  - Nice to see that I'm not the only one noticing the BS Obama coverage. n/t  Stand and Fight   Feb-05-08 03:03 AM   #87 

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