You are viewing an obsolete version of the DU website which is no longer supported by the Administrators. Visit The New DU.
Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login

Reply #27: That number was for all IT -- info technology [View All]

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion: Presidential (Through Nov 2009) Donate to DU
Dogmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 06:45 PM
Response to Reply #17
27. That number was for all IT -- info technology
I might even be on the low side, but it's still in the right ballpark. It was widely quoted as "one million jobs".

There were certainly business failures under Clinton. That's par for the course. But people assume it was all NAFTA under Clinton, and it wasn't. "Capital formation" was strong, it was becoming more distributed, and people had more credit. This led to the Real Estate boom, but not because of Clinton's doing -- the Fed had a "go-go" money policy, and Clinton got flack for seeking a slow schedule of increases.

Most of the information on Clinton -- both Clintons -- online, is cherry-picked to be derogatory. That may be why the Internet supports Obama about 70/30, while the general population is closer to 50/50 -- or better. The Clinton era was NOT a bad time by any measure. He was a skilled manager and his good mood was infectious; hence the nickname "the Big Dog". The Clintons did a lot of things that the left would applaud, if the left press didn't have its own agenda.

Indeed, there were plenty of things to complain about. But the record in whole is seldom discussed online; only the negative is presented, and the benefits are glossed over if they are mentioned at all. The Clinton-bashing movement has given us a revisionist picture of history. For those concerned about lies, that's a productive lode right there.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
  -Why does H. Clinton receive such high marks on the economy? Skwmom  Feb-03-08 06:07 PM   #0 
  - Her economic stimulus package is bullshit  JFKgirl   Feb-03-08 06:09 PM   #1 
  - Have you always been this bitter sounding??  rodeodance   Feb-03-08 06:26 PM   #16 
  - "Top economists" said the same thing about Bill Clinton's economic plan  niceypoo   Feb-04-08 09:42 AM   #39 
  - While you at it, why don't you throw in 9/11 & Darfur just for the hell of it.  The_Casual_Observer   Feb-03-08 06:09 PM   #2 
  - So are you saying that the Clintons pushing "free trade" did not  Skwmom   Feb-03-08 06:16 PM   #4 
     - They weren't around to manage it for the last 8 years. However, in  The_Casual_Observer   Feb-03-08 06:23 PM   #12 
     - The point is that I am STUNNED that people think the Clintons have  Skwmom   Feb-03-08 06:25 PM   #14 
        - They were good for the economy while they could do something about the  The_Casual_Observer   Feb-03-08 06:53 PM   #33 
     - I have heard Hillary say she doesn't agree with NAFTA  bellasgrams   Feb-03-08 06:35 PM   #22 
        - That's just her superficial reply  Armstead   Feb-03-08 06:37 PM   #24 
        - Newsflash - just because Bill or Hillary Clinton says  Skwmom   Feb-03-08 06:46 PM   #28 
  - Oh, 22 million new jobs  Pigwidgeon   Feb-03-08 06:12 PM   #3 
  - Aggressively supporting an economic system that is destructive  Armstead   Feb-03-08 06:21 PM   #9 
  - Like, what?  Pigwidgeon   Feb-03-08 06:31 PM   #20 
     - The Clintons were neo-liberals -- another word for GOP style free marketers  Armstead   Feb-03-08 06:36 PM   #23 
  - But how many of those NEW jobs were due to the phony  Skwmom   Feb-03-08 06:21 PM   #10 
     - Dot-Com jobs: about a million  Pigwidgeon   Feb-03-08 06:26 PM   #15 
        - But I believe that is was more than just internet based companies  Skwmom   Feb-03-08 06:29 PM   #17 
           - That number was for all IT -- info technology  Pigwidgeon   Feb-03-08 06:45 PM   #27 
  - People think just because Bill had a good economy during his tenure  NJSecularist   Feb-03-08 06:17 PM   #5 
  - I think her policies are sound and progressive  Jim4Wes   Feb-03-08 06:20 PM   #8 
  - What is progressive about supporting trade agreements that  Skwmom   Feb-03-08 06:31 PM   #19 
     - Skwmom-Listen to her, you'll learn of her ideas on correcting  bellasgrams   Feb-03-08 06:49 PM   #29 
     - Whos platform are you talking about?  Jim4Wes   Feb-03-08 06:50 PM   #30 
     - Hillary on Inequality  Jim4Wes   Feb-03-08 06:52 PM   #32 
  - Well its more of a proven track record than Obama  Seeker30   Feb-03-08 07:10 PM   #35 
  - It has been reported ad nauseam Hilary did not agree  OHdem10   Feb-03-08 06:18 PM   #6 
  - It has been reported ad nausem that she did agree with NAFTA  Skwmom   Feb-03-08 06:22 PM   #11 
  - you are trying to reason with the blind-faith folks. good luck  rodeodance   Feb-03-08 06:39 PM   #26 
  - It baffles me too -- Clintonomics ws a fundamental restructuring for the worse  Armstead   Feb-03-08 06:20 PM   #7 
  - I think they need to put it in straightforward terms to the American  Skwmom   Feb-03-08 06:23 PM   #13 
  - And that's why the hard-core left hates Clinton  Pigwidgeon   Feb-03-08 07:02 PM   #34 
     - It's not abstract theory -- and it's not "hate"  Armstead   Feb-04-08 08:08 AM   #36 
  - Have you seen her new Job-creating Green Economy plan?--I heard  rodeodance   Feb-03-08 06:30 PM   #18 
  - I've been reading about the green economy for a while. Wow, I never  Skwmom   Feb-03-08 06:33 PM   #21 
  - She does not claim to have invented it. But you knew that didn't you!  rodeodance   Feb-03-08 06:37 PM   #25 
  - Guess that's why Hillary got Bobby Kennedy JR's nod /nt  Iceburg   Feb-04-08 09:35 AM   #38 
  - You only have to listen to her.  lamprey   Feb-03-08 06:52 PM   #31 
  - Got me by the sackolios.  HughBeaumont   Feb-04-08 08:39 AM   #37 
  - Obviously because she was physically in the white house in the 90's. LMFAO!  jeffrey_X   Feb-04-08 10:02 AM   #40 

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion: Presidential (Through Nov 2009) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators

Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC