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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 08:56 PM
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:thumbsup: And bu$h took it to the next level which is what he had in mind, anyway.
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  -OK, prove to me that had Hillary voted "no" on the IWR that we would NOT jasmine621  Feb-02-08 08:27 PM   #0 
  - So that's an excuse for her to do the wrong thing? NT  NYCGirl   Feb-02-08 08:27 PM   #1 
  - Don't change the subject. Respond to the challenge. nt  jasmine621   Feb-02-08 08:29 PM   #3 
  - I'm not changing the subject. What the fuck kind of an excuse is that? NT  NYCGirl   Feb-02-08 08:30 PM   #7 
     - It is simple. The case has been made all day by multiple posters that Hilllary is responsible  Tom Rinaldo   Feb-02-08 08:38 PM   #23 
        - And Kerry fucked up too. As did Edwards. But they've since said they were wrong.  NYCGirl   Feb-02-08 08:43 PM   #28 
           - What's the difference in saying I was wrong and I  clydefrand   Feb-02-08 08:54 PM   #34 
           - That's what I keep asking folks who won't forgive Hillary. If she doesn't  Auntie Bush   Feb-02-08 10:54 PM   #58 
           - And Clinton said, knowing what she does today, that she would not have made that vote  Tom Rinaldo   Feb-02-08 09:02 PM   #40 
  - Edwards and Kerry voted for the same bill  pathansen   Feb-02-08 10:02 PM   #49 
  - The way it stands, Bush could've done it without the IWR and not get into serious trouble.  Selatius   Feb-02-08 08:28 PM   #2 
  - He could have also done it with the IWR, and not invaded.  Ravy   Feb-02-08 08:31 PM   #9 
     - Absolutely, and if you read her speech on the Senate  clydefrand   Feb-02-08 08:49 PM   #31 
  - What would she do as President?  El Supremo   Feb-02-08 08:29 PM   #4 
  - The IWR was not an order for the President to invade. nt  Ravy   Feb-02-08 08:32 PM   #12 
     - No, but many of us saw what was going on  Terry_M   Feb-02-08 08:51 PM   #32 
        - But many didn't. And they had to make a decision.  Ravy   Feb-02-08 08:55 PM   #35 
        - Not vote to authorize a warmonger to go to war based on a  Terry_M   Feb-02-08 09:42 PM   #43 
           - Because there are no consequences if you choose wrongly. nt  Ravy   Feb-02-08 11:59 PM   #75 
        - If you could see it, then why couldn't Obama, Kerry, Edwards?  MichiganVote   Feb-02-08 10:36 PM   #54 
  - Your post is pathetically sad.  cali   Feb-02-08 08:30 PM   #5 
  - Are you old enought to serve in the military?  MichiganVote   Feb-02-08 08:30 PM   #6 
  - So, it really doesn't matter how any individual votes on any bill, because  pdxmom   Feb-02-08 08:31 PM   #8 
  - Your right. So does that mean Senator Wellstone should have just voted for the war?  wheresthemind   Feb-02-08 08:32 PM   #10 
  - None of them voted "for the war"  Jim4Wes   Feb-02-08 08:33 PM   #15 
     - Right ON!  clydefrand   Feb-02-08 08:53 PM   #33 
     - ...  Blue State Native   Feb-02-08 08:56 PM   #37 
     - So then what did the MAJORITY of our representatives in Washington vote NO on?  PassingFair   Feb-02-08 10:46 PM   #56 
     - Why did a majority of our Senators vote yes?  Jim4Wes   Feb-02-08 11:30 PM   #64 
        - More likely pressure because their SEATS were up.  PassingFair   Feb-02-08 11:35 PM   #66 
           - Was the coalition of the coerced formed in October of 2002?  Jim4Wes   Feb-02-08 11:44 PM   #68 
              - The WORLD was against our invasion of Iraq.  PassingFair   Feb-02-08 11:56 PM   #72 
     - That's absurd!  Webster Green   Feb-02-08 11:09 PM   #60 
        - are you always right or something?  Jim4Wes   Feb-02-08 11:16 PM   #61 
           - I already have medals from a another war.....they don't mean shit!  Webster Green   Feb-02-08 11:25 PM   #62 
           - Some would still argue that  Jim4Wes   Feb-02-08 11:33 PM   #65 
           - What? Not the "cakewalk" you expected?  PassingFair   Feb-02-08 11:40 PM   #67 
              - Where did I suggest it was a cake walk. Please take a chill pill and read it again. nt  Jim4Wes   Feb-02-08 11:45 PM   #69 
  - It's true that her vote would have changed nothing  HughMoran   Feb-02-08 08:32 PM   #11 
  - You know what is wrong with your reasoning. nt  BullGooseLoony   Feb-02-08 08:33 PM   #13 
  - she is a great leader so she would have swayed other Dems to follower her... oh wait...  landonb16   Feb-02-08 08:33 PM   #14 
  - I'd have been happy to vote for Hillary if only she did exactly that.  Alexander   Feb-02-08 08:35 PM   #18 
  - LMAO! One of the more absurd arguments I've seen lately.  tabasco   Feb-02-08 08:34 PM   #16 
  - if she can't change a dem to vote with her how is she going to get anything done? your logic sucks  landonb16   Feb-02-08 08:35 PM   #17 
  - What difference does it make?  southern_dem   Feb-02-08 08:35 PM   #19 
  - At least she shoud've taken a stand and voted no.  Middle finga   Feb-02-08 08:36 PM   #20 
  - Leadership isn't about conceding the high ground or abandoning ones principles  cryingshame   Feb-02-08 08:36 PM   #21 
  - This is fascinating - your leader says to look ahead.  DURHAM D   Feb-02-08 08:36 PM   #22 
  - no no no... read here  landonb16   Feb-02-08 08:46 PM   #30 
     - You have responded to the wrong poster. n/t  DURHAM D   Feb-02-08 09:30 PM   #42 
        - no it was to you...  landonb16   Feb-02-08 09:44 PM   #45 
           - Non-sequitur much? nt  DURHAM D   Feb-02-08 09:54 PM   #47 
              - are you kidding me.  landonb16   Feb-02-08 10:20 PM   #50 
  - If Hillary had stood up and told the TRUTH....  TwoSparkles   Feb-02-08 08:39 PM   #24 
  - THE BEST POST OF THE NIGHT... AND YES I AM YELLING  landonb16   Feb-02-08 10:30 PM   #51 
  - This needs its own thread.  ingac70   Feb-02-08 10:36 PM   #53 
  - no one ever said that  Skittles   Feb-02-08 08:41 PM   #25 
  - How many of you have read the entire contents of  clydefrand   Feb-02-08 08:41 PM   #26 
  - Of course she did not favor actual invasion  Jim4Wes   Feb-02-08 08:55 PM   #36 
     - Thank you so much for our reply. So why do people  clydefrand   Feb-02-08 09:01 PM   #39 
     - The "Theory"  Jim4Wes   Feb-02-08 09:10 PM   #41 
        - Again, thanks. I HATE war and want no part of it  clydefrand   Feb-02-08 09:49 PM   #46 
           - Stick around  Jim4Wes   Feb-02-08 09:55 PM   #48 
     - She voted to authorize Bush to use military force against Iraq.  SOS   Feb-02-08 10:41 PM   #55 
        - Why?  Jim4Wes   Feb-02-08 11:48 PM   #71 
        - Here's what you just swipe out of your little mind  Jim4Wes   Feb-02-08 11:56 PM   #73 
           - Here's what you just swipe out of your little mind.  PassingFair   Feb-02-08 11:58 PM   #74 
              - You want a gold star?  Jim4Wes   Feb-03-08 12:00 AM   #76 
                 - Maybe you should ask Scott Ritter.  PassingFair   Feb-03-08 12:17 AM   #77 
                    - the Dems were lied to and made their decision based on those lies.  Jim4Wes   Feb-03-08 12:23 AM   #79 
                       - They KNEW they were dealing with LIARS.  PassingFair   Feb-03-08 12:25 AM   #80 
  - First of all, that's faulty reasoning.  silverweb   Feb-02-08 08:42 PM   #27 
  - I agree with you  Terry_M   Feb-02-08 08:45 PM   #29 
  - but she is a great leader so she would have swayed other Dems to follower her  landonb16   Feb-02-08 08:58 PM   #38 
     - a great leader....  unkachuck   Feb-02-08 11:26 PM   #63 
  - Hardly the point.  ErnestoG   Feb-02-08 09:43 PM   #44 
  - It's not just about the vote. It's how she's handled it the past 5 years. n/t  sparosnare   Feb-02-08 10:35 PM   #52 
  - That's patently not the issue.  slick8790   Feb-02-08 10:50 PM   #57 
  - It isn't that the decision to go to war hinged on her vote  MadHound   Feb-02-08 10:57 PM   #59 
  - What's your point?  Armstead   Feb-02-08 11:45 PM   #70 
  - In the Nuremburg trials, that baloney rational would have gotten you...  ErnestoG   Feb-03-08 12:19 AM   #78 
 

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