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Two Americas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-02-08 07:46 PM
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100. that is great
You are being so honest and sincere here, and it rings so true. Most people (myself included) hide behind a mask of opinions and partisanship and positions. Human beings are a little more complex than that.

I say let's support each other. Let's be suspicious of that which sets us at each other's throats. Let's give room for people to breathe, to be more honest and open, to take more chances with each other.
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  -THERE IS A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN DREAMS AND FANTASY ClericJohnPreston  Feb-02-08 01:02 PM   #0 
  - Oh my god. DU is absolutely delusional today. This is bizzaro land.  Diane R   Feb-02-08 01:10 PM   #1 
  - Can't refute a single argument, can you? Bizzaro land indeed.This post is reality.  saracat   Feb-02-08 01:13 PM   #4 
  - Here, refuted:  ProSense   Feb-02-08 01:31 PM   #12 
     - oh God  Two Americas   Feb-02-08 01:34 PM   #14 
     - I read the book, read the links.Still,nada. But hey some read  saracat   Feb-02-08 01:39 PM   #17 
     - Sara rethink please  kristopher   Feb-03-08 04:35 AM   #151 
        - And when the candidates can get the "aside from pharma, insurance and health lobby"  Yael   Feb-03-08 12:30 PM   #175 
     - No book, facts and none of them link to Obama's site. So I think you are in denial! n/t  ProSense   Feb-02-08 01:51 PM   #20 
     - so childish  Two Americas   Feb-02-08 02:06 PM   #26 
        - You have the nerve to call my response  ProSense   Feb-02-08 02:25 PM   #32 
           - not that serious  Two Americas   Feb-02-08 02:50 PM   #44 
              - No Two Americas  ClericJohnPreston   Feb-02-08 04:01 PM   #60 
     - If you read the main post I would think you could read the supplied links!  michaz   Feb-03-08 06:02 AM   #155 
     - You are a parody of all Obama supporters  ClericJohnPreston   Feb-02-08 01:47 PM   #18 
     - How would you profess supporters give you answers?  Laurab   Feb-02-08 09:16 PM   #114 
     - Thank you for the gravitas, ProSense.  VolcanoJen   Feb-02-08 02:23 PM   #30 
     - LOL. I knew the mandatory links would appear, as if by magic.  Straight Shooter   Feb-02-08 03:18 PM   #54 
        - ...  Blue State Native   Feb-02-08 05:49 PM   #91 
        - LOL!!  Yael   Feb-03-08 12:33 PM   #178 
  - Take ONE MOMENT to climb down from your high, judgemental pedastal,  bobbolink   Feb-02-08 01:22 PM   #9 
  - What's bizarre is all this rock star devotion to Obama & his empty rhetoric. People can see  TheGoldenRule   Feb-02-08 01:57 PM   #22 
  - Its like watching a football game and cheering for the "right" colored uniforms.  Yael   Feb-02-08 05:46 PM   #87 
  - You hit it right on the head........  pauldg0   Feb-03-08 01:27 AM   #139 
     - A staffer had his name removed in Rhode Island and he requested that it be reinstated  Yael   Feb-03-08 12:33 PM   #177 
        - Your a great friend....  pauldg0   Feb-03-08 11:00 PM   #190 
  - At the age of 58 I think I know the difference between flash and substance.  michaz   Feb-03-08 06:09 AM   #156 
     - Well stated.  faygokid   Feb-03-08 10:30 AM   #164 
  - You think?  Yael   Feb-02-08 05:44 PM   #86 
  - what is bizarre is obama's supporters denial of legit concerns.  venable   Feb-02-08 10:12 PM   #121 
  - I am proud to cast the first rec for this incredible piece of writing.  saracat   Feb-02-08 01:11 PM   #2 
  - They stopped teaching critical thinking....  unapatriciated   Feb-03-08 12:47 AM   #136 
  - I share your sentiments  mtnsnake   Feb-03-08 08:47 AM   #162 
  - A Level-Headed, Superior Post !!!  BeatleBoot   Feb-02-08 01:12 PM   #3 
  - Kennedy's era, was not an era of ME,ME,ME.  4MoronicYears   Feb-02-08 01:13 PM   #5 
  - Nonsense! Also, was Edwards forced out by conspiracy or is he in?  ProSense   Feb-02-08 01:19 PM   #6 
  - The Original Post had nothing to do with any of that.  BeatleBoot   Feb-02-08 01:21 PM   #8 
     - The subject is fantasy! n/t  ProSense   Feb-02-08 01:24 PM   #10 
        - You're proving the OP's point, one post at a time....  BeatleBoot   Feb-02-08 01:30 PM   #11 
        - A subject with which you are intimately familiar.  ClericJohnPreston   Feb-02-08 01:32 PM   #13 
  - When the "weakest" among us get nary of word appreciation, when we are thrown under the bus,  bobbolink   Feb-02-08 01:20 PM   #7 
  - Sorry dude. There's nothing "false" about "hope."  VolcanoJen   Feb-02-08 01:36 PM   #15 
  - Lol!  BeatleBoot   Feb-02-08 01:38 PM   #16 
  - Except false hope  ClericJohnPreston   Feb-02-08 01:49 PM   #19 
  - How can you get any hope from empty words?  TheGoldenRule   Feb-02-08 01:59 PM   #23 
  - Maybe you're just not listening.  VolcanoJen   Feb-02-08 02:22 PM   #29 
     - I haven't heard A PLAN. All I've seen is the AUDACITY of HYPE.  TheGoldenRule   Feb-02-08 02:28 PM   #34 
     - Uh, there are plans galore in this very thread.  VolcanoJen   Feb-02-08 02:39 PM   #38 
     - So what about all those corporate donations? Why are you turning a blind eye to them?  TheGoldenRule   Feb-02-08 03:10 PM   #50 
     - The (Unjustified) Hope of Audacity. N/T  Hannah Bell   Feb-02-08 03:00 PM   #48 
     - I have to read about Obama  ClericJohnPreston   Feb-02-08 02:35 PM   #36 
     - Mein Kampf??  VolcanoJen   Feb-02-08 02:37 PM   #37 
        - That I have to read about Obama  ClericJohnPreston   Feb-02-08 02:41 PM   #39 
           - So I guess you were born knowing everything about John Edwards?  NYCGirl   Feb-02-08 02:44 PM   #41 
           - Keyboard Warrior Syndrome.  ellisonz   Feb-02-08 06:34 PM   #98 
           - Good way to put it, ellisonz. NT  NYCGirl   Feb-02-08 09:17 PM   #115 
           - No, looks like he knows Edwards' record  jackson_dem   Feb-03-08 02:52 AM   #147 
           - I didn't need a bio to understand Obama.  VolcanoJen   Feb-02-08 02:45 PM   #42 
           - Comment on the thread  ClericJohnPreston   Feb-02-08 02:54 PM   #47 
              - First things first.  VolcanoJen   Feb-02-08 03:06 PM   #49 
                 - You obviously have NOT learned a thing in all the "years" you've been here.  TheGoldenRule   Feb-02-08 04:15 PM   #65 
                 - So I guess you haven't read my post, or the other one below, about...  VolcanoJen   Feb-02-08 04:23 PM   #67 
                    - What about the MILLIONS & MILLIONS OF DOLLARS Obama took from Corporations?  TheGoldenRule   Feb-02-08 04:34 PM   #70 
                    - You know what? Even Edwards supporters shouldn't try this tack.  VolcanoJen   Feb-02-08 04:45 PM   #73 
                       - What Edwards got was a DROP in the bucket compared to the MILLIONS & MILLIONS that Obama got.  TheGoldenRule   Feb-02-08 07:47 PM   #102 
                    - You've linked  ClericJohnPreston   Feb-02-08 05:39 PM   #85 
                    - No, It is not mere wishes and fantasy.  VolcanoJen   Feb-02-08 05:49 PM   #92 
                    - Kiddo.............  pauldg0   Feb-03-08 01:43 AM   #140 
                 - Self-Delete n/t  Stand and Fight   Feb-03-08 06:02 AM   #154 
           - Snakeoil Salesman is exactly what I was thinking. Brought to you by Oprah. nt  TheGoldenRule   Feb-02-08 04:02 PM   #61 
     - you can't be serious  Two Americas   Feb-02-08 03:11 PM   #51 
     - In my own defense...  VolcanoJen   Feb-02-08 03:22 PM   #56 
        - understood  Two Americas   Feb-02-08 03:51 PM   #58 
        - I encourage you to continue to stand with Edwards supporters.  VolcanoJen   Feb-02-08 04:00 PM   #59 
           - But I think you are  ClericJohnPreston   Feb-02-08 04:08 PM   #63 
           - Well, at least you admitted the "Mein Kampf" response was flippant.  VolcanoJen   Feb-02-08 04:18 PM   #66 
              - We already have such a program  lisainmilo   Feb-03-08 12:38 AM   #135 
                 - I thought the same thing when I read it....  unapatriciated   Feb-03-08 01:04 AM   #138 
           - thank you  Two Americas   Feb-02-08 04:43 PM   #72 
              - And thank you, too.  VolcanoJen   Feb-02-08 04:50 PM   #74 
                 - VolcanoJen  ClericJohnPreston   Feb-02-08 05:00 PM   #75 
                 - ClericJohnPreston  VolcanoJen   Feb-02-08 05:06 PM   #77 
                 - completely valid  Two Americas   Feb-02-08 05:08 PM   #78 
                 - I will continue to consider your point of view thoughtfuly...  VolcanoJen   Feb-02-08 05:12 PM   #79 
                 - I thought of something else.  VolcanoJen   Feb-02-08 06:14 PM   #96 
                    - that is great  Two Americas   Feb-02-08 07:46 PM   #100 
                 - I want to thank you both  quakerboy   Feb-02-08 11:35 PM   #130 
        - ummm...  desertflamingo   Feb-02-08 10:10 PM   #120 
     - Disagreement is not ignorance. "Informed" is not always the path to "Truth".  unc70   Feb-02-08 05:33 PM   #82 
     - I feel you haven't read through the thread.  VolcanoJen   Feb-02-08 05:38 PM   #84 
        - I read the entire thread before I began the post.  unc70   Feb-02-08 06:05 PM   #94 
           - Well, you've still mischaracterized the discussion.  VolcanoJen   Feb-02-08 06:26 PM   #97 
              - Let me play back what you have said, then tell me that I mischaracterized!!  unc70   Feb-02-08 09:23 PM   #116 
     - I've read both of his books...  Stand and Fight   Feb-03-08 05:57 AM   #153 
     - Have you ever read "Living History" by Hillary Rodham Clinton?  madmom   Feb-03-08 07:40 AM   #158 
        - crickets!!!!!!...why am I not surprised.  madmom   Feb-03-08 08:23 AM   #160 
  - Hoping for Change, I see  Yael   Feb-02-08 05:47 PM   #90 
  - I was an Edwards supporter from the beginning and I will be voting for Obama.  Political Heretic   Feb-02-08 01:56 PM   #21 
  - Funny how people react  ClericJohnPreston   Feb-02-08 02:01 PM   #25 
  - The assumption that anyone who disagrees with you must be shutting down the message is called  Political Heretic   Feb-02-08 08:01 PM   #104 
  - did it ever occur to you...  Two Americas   Feb-02-08 02:14 PM   #27 
  - No. It did not occur to me that anyone might be looking at politics more deeply than me.  Political Heretic   Feb-02-08 08:04 PM   #107 
  - Obama took MILLIONS in corporate money. Edwards did NOT. Therein lies the difference.  TheGoldenRule   Feb-02-08 04:23 PM   #68 
  - Hard for them to wake up  ClericJohnPreston   Feb-02-08 04:36 PM   #71 
     - Wow. What has happened to critical thinking?!  TheGoldenRule   Feb-02-08 05:17 PM   #80 
     - fear and desperation  Two Americas   Feb-02-08 06:06 PM   #95 
     - Excellent post and writing Two Americas  ClericJohnPreston   Feb-02-08 07:27 PM   #99 
     - I am not afriad. I just disagree with you.  Political Heretic   Feb-02-08 08:10 PM   #110 
     - I believe you  Two Americas   Feb-02-08 08:51 PM   #113 
     - you are not the only angry one, two americas!  desertflamingo   Feb-02-08 10:23 PM   #123 
     - Nothing has "happened" to critical thinking. We just disagree.  Political Heretic   Feb-02-08 08:05 PM   #108 
        - It ends an aggressive anti-GLBT agenda that includes things like proposed constitutional amendments.  desertflamingo   Feb-02-08 10:24 PM   #125 
           - Bullshit.  Political Heretic   Feb-02-08 11:43 PM   #132 
              - really?  desertflamingo   Feb-03-08 12:52 AM   #137 
                 - Straw man.  Political Heretic   Feb-03-08 01:56 AM   #142 
                    - what i meant and i thought was clear...  desertflamingo   Feb-03-08 03:06 AM   #150 
                       - You continue your staw man argument. I think you are confused.  Political Heretic   Feb-03-08 02:24 PM   #186 
                          - Read your sig line  ClericJohnPreston   Feb-03-08 06:17 PM   #188 
                             - also irrelevant  Political Heretic   Feb-03-08 07:27 PM   #189 
     - Where's the bar, now?  VolcanoJen   Feb-02-08 05:20 PM   #81 
  - who is married to a candidate?  Two Americas   Feb-02-08 08:02 PM   #106 
     - I am not an ideological purity elitist.  Political Heretic   Feb-02-08 08:09 PM   #109 
        - shadow boxing  Two Americas   Feb-02-08 10:22 PM   #122 
           - Response  Political Heretic   Feb-03-08 12:17 AM   #133 
              - response  Two Americas   Feb-03-08 01:45 AM   #141 
  - great post ClericJohnPreston  Two Americas   Feb-02-08 02:01 PM   #24 
  - Do you know who the guy is?  stillcool47   Feb-02-08 02:17 PM   #28 
  - Thanks  ClericJohnPreston   Feb-02-08 02:30 PM   #35 
     - Why do you expect me...  stillcool47   Feb-02-08 02:53 PM   #46 
  - Don't be so damn insulting  Indenturedebtor   Feb-02-08 02:24 PM   #31 
  - Because you have to THINK  ClericJohnPreston   Feb-02-08 02:46 PM   #43 
  - I couldn't agree more  blues90   Feb-02-08 02:28 PM   #33 
  - Great post! Beautifully written.  Beaverhausen   Feb-02-08 02:42 PM   #40 
  - So what about the  alteredstate   Feb-02-08 05:04 PM   #76 
     - Wha, wha, WHAT?????  ClericJohnPreston   Feb-02-08 05:35 PM   #83 
        - It's a bill Senator Obama introduced  alteredstate   Feb-02-08 05:46 PM   #88 
           - Introduced....  ClericJohnPreston   Feb-02-08 09:48 PM   #118 
              - The Veterans Homelessness Prevention Act is S.2330  alteredstate   Feb-03-08 07:46 AM   #159 
  - Great post! K&R!!  iris5426   Feb-02-08 02:52 PM   #45 
  - I, too, have researched Obama  NastyRiffraff   Feb-02-08 03:13 PM   #52 
  - YES, WE CAN!  Prefer   Feb-02-08 03:15 PM   #53 
  - Great Post As Was Your Earlier One... And THERE IS Something To  ChiciB1   Feb-02-08 03:20 PM   #55 
  - i'm interested in knowing about your email. do tell...  desertflamingo   Feb-02-08 10:32 PM   #127 
     - Just Checking Replies... Be Back In the AM & Will Elaborate... Having A  ChiciB1   Feb-02-08 11:20 PM   #128 
  - You are consistently one of my favorite posters on DU.  Straight Shooter   Feb-02-08 03:25 PM   #57 
  - Thank you!  ClericJohnPreston   Feb-02-08 04:12 PM   #64 
  - K&R  BuffyTheFundieSlayer   Feb-02-08 04:04 PM   #62 
  - Amen to that!  ClericJohnPreston   Feb-02-08 04:26 PM   #69 
  - An enthusiastic K&R!  Blue State Native   Feb-02-08 05:47 PM   #89 
  - Evening kickaroo!  Yael   Feb-02-08 05:49 PM   #93 
  - Thank you for that astute assessment. I too want specifics,  Ojai Person   Feb-02-08 07:46 PM   #101 
  - You just have to skim through their threads  ClericJohnPreston   Feb-02-08 07:54 PM   #103 
     - I have wondered if that is part of the manipulation going on....  Ojai Person   Feb-03-08 11:16 AM   #169 
  - Sure it is just our imagination  ClericJohnPreston   Feb-02-08 08:01 PM   #105 
  - Dr. Obama's Traveling Salvation Show  AndyA   Feb-02-08 08:12 PM   #111 
  - There goes my monitor!  ClericJohnPreston   Feb-02-08 09:29 PM   #117 
  - Ponies dude, ponies! n/t  lumberjack_jeff   Feb-02-08 08:30 PM   #112 
  - beautifully written.  desertflamingo   Feb-02-08 09:59 PM   #119 
  - .  Blue-Jay   Feb-02-08 10:24 PM   #124 
  - What absolute and utter bullshit. Coming from an Edwards supporter, I am shocked. There is not  K Gardner   Feb-02-08 10:27 PM   #126 
  - I don't agree  ClericJohnPreston   Feb-03-08 10:59 AM   #166 
  - Im glad Im not the only one....................  AlaskaMaddie2008   Feb-02-08 11:32 PM   #129 
  - Hillary 08! Dreams take work!  REDFISHBLUEFISH   Feb-02-08 11:39 PM   #131 
  - Twenty years of two-family dynasty is enough.  Political Heretic   Feb-03-08 12:19 AM   #134 
  - And having one family run two countries, America and Kenya is any better?  jackson_dem   Feb-03-08 02:56 AM   #149 
  - What does that mean?  ClericJohnPreston   Feb-03-08 12:31 PM   #176 
  - Words are cheap.  TheWatcher   Feb-03-08 02:49 AM   #145 
  - I found out that the Obama supporters don't believe  BlackVelvet04   Feb-03-08 02:04 AM   #143 
  - we're going to have to do it ourselves :P  stickernation   Feb-03-08 02:44 AM   #144 
  - "What he stands for is unimportant - what is important is that all my friends are here with me."  ClericJohnPreston   Feb-03-08 04:37 AM   #152 
  - Great Post, but it's hard to argue with infatuated people  LadyVT   Feb-03-08 02:51 AM   #146 
  - A purposeful blank screen at that!  ClericJohnPreston   Feb-03-08 10:53 AM   #165 
     - Yes, Obamamania is interesting from a psychological and even spiritual perspective.  Ojai Person   Feb-03-08 12:53 PM   #182 
        - Great post  ClericJohnPreston   Feb-03-08 01:15 PM   #184 
  - Goverenace Is About Policy, Not About Hopes And Prayers!  lostnotforgotten   Feb-03-08 02:52 AM   #148 
  - Yes, where will they all be once the balloons and confetti drop?  RestoreGore   Feb-03-08 06:55 AM   #157 
  - How refreshing! This is the kind of post which once attracted me to DU in the first place. AWESOME!!  mtnsnake   Feb-03-08 08:44 AM   #161 
  - Anytime  ClericJohnPreston   Feb-03-08 11:01 AM   #167 
  - K&R...n/t  ms liberty   Feb-03-08 10:25 AM   #163 
  - Thanks for the warning  windoe   Feb-03-08 11:15 AM   #168 
  - K&R  balantz   Feb-03-08 11:17 AM   #170 
  - The War Authorization Vote is all you need to know  GrimReefa   Feb-03-08 11:33 AM   #171 
  - Nice try, but inaccurate, of course  ClericJohnPreston   Feb-03-08 11:46 AM   #172 
  - It's called responsibility  GrimReefa   Feb-03-08 01:22 PM   #185 
  - But who continued funding? And voted against redeployment UNTIL 2006?  PerpetuallyDazed   Feb-03-08 12:17 PM   #173 
     - Right off an Obama website  ClericJohnPreston   Feb-03-08 12:36 PM   #179 
  - BO and HRC are cut from the same DLC cloth.  stimbox   Feb-03-08 12:28 PM   #174 
  - As I've said  ClericJohnPreston   Feb-03-08 12:38 PM   #180 
     - Yep, two peas in a DLC pod  stimbox   Feb-03-08 12:41 PM   #181 
  - Hey, thanks for the sewage.  Capn Sunshine   Feb-03-08 12:56 PM   #183 
     - Try writing what I can  ClericJohnPreston   Feb-03-08 03:08 PM   #187 
 

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