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Sat Feb-02-08 07:46 PM
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You are being so honest and sincere here, and it rings so true. Most people (myself included) hide behind a mask of opinions and partisanship and positions. Human beings are a little more complex than that.
I say let's support each other. Let's be suspicious of that which sets us at each other's throats. Let's give room for people to breathe, to be more honest and open, to take more chances with each other.
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| -THERE IS A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN DREAMS AND FANTASY |
ClericJohnPreston |
Feb-02-08 01:02 PM |
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Oh my god. DU is absolutely delusional today. This is bizzaro land. |
Diane R |
Feb-02-08 01:10 PM |
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Can't refute a single argument, can you? Bizzaro land indeed.This post is reality. |
saracat |
Feb-02-08 01:13 PM |
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Here, refuted: |
ProSense |
Feb-02-08 01:31 PM |
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oh God |
Two Americas |
Feb-02-08 01:34 PM |
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I read the book, read the links.Still,nada. But hey some read |
saracat |
Feb-02-08 01:39 PM |
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Sara rethink please |
kristopher |
Feb-03-08 04:35 AM |
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And when the candidates can get the "aside from pharma, insurance and health lobby" |
Yael |
Feb-03-08 12:30 PM |
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No book, facts and none of them link to Obama's site. So I think you are in denial! n/t |
ProSense |
Feb-02-08 01:51 PM |
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so childish |
Two Americas |
Feb-02-08 02:06 PM |
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You have the nerve to call my response |
ProSense |
Feb-02-08 02:25 PM |
#32 |
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not that serious |
Two Americas |
Feb-02-08 02:50 PM |
#44 |
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No Two Americas |
ClericJohnPreston |
Feb-02-08 04:01 PM |
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If you read the main post I would think you could read the supplied links! |
michaz |
Feb-03-08 06:02 AM |
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You are a parody of all Obama supporters |
ClericJohnPreston |
Feb-02-08 01:47 PM |
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How would you profess supporters give you answers? |
Laurab |
Feb-02-08 09:16 PM |
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Thank you for the gravitas, ProSense. |
VolcanoJen |
Feb-02-08 02:23 PM |
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LOL. I knew the mandatory links would appear, as if by magic. |
Straight Shooter |
Feb-02-08 03:18 PM |
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... |
Blue State Native |
Feb-02-08 05:49 PM |
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LOL!! |
Yael |
Feb-03-08 12:33 PM |
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Take ONE MOMENT to climb down from your high, judgemental pedastal, |
bobbolink |
Feb-02-08 01:22 PM |
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What's bizarre is all this rock star devotion to Obama & his empty rhetoric. People can see |
TheGoldenRule |
Feb-02-08 01:57 PM |
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Its like watching a football game and cheering for the "right" colored uniforms. |
Yael |
Feb-02-08 05:46 PM |
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You hit it right on the head........ |
pauldg0 |
Feb-03-08 01:27 AM |
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A staffer had his name removed in Rhode Island and he requested that it be reinstated |
Yael |
Feb-03-08 12:33 PM |
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Your a great friend.... |
pauldg0 |
Feb-03-08 11:00 PM |
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At the age of 58 I think I know the difference between flash and substance. |
michaz |
Feb-03-08 06:09 AM |
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Well stated. |
faygokid |
Feb-03-08 10:30 AM |
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You think? |
Yael |
Feb-02-08 05:44 PM |
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what is bizarre is obama's supporters denial of legit concerns. |
venable |
Feb-02-08 10:12 PM |
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I am proud to cast the first rec for this incredible piece of writing. |
saracat |
Feb-02-08 01:11 PM |
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They stopped teaching critical thinking.... |
unapatriciated |
Feb-03-08 12:47 AM |
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I share your sentiments |
mtnsnake |
Feb-03-08 08:47 AM |
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A Level-Headed, Superior Post !!! |
BeatleBoot |
Feb-02-08 01:12 PM |
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Kennedy's era, was not an era of ME,ME,ME. |
4MoronicYears |
Feb-02-08 01:13 PM |
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Nonsense! Also, was Edwards forced out by conspiracy or is he in? |
ProSense |
Feb-02-08 01:19 PM |
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The Original Post had nothing to do with any of that. |
BeatleBoot |
Feb-02-08 01:21 PM |
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The subject is fantasy! n/t |
ProSense |
Feb-02-08 01:24 PM |
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You're proving the OP's point, one post at a time.... |
BeatleBoot |
Feb-02-08 01:30 PM |
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A subject with which you are intimately familiar. |
ClericJohnPreston |
Feb-02-08 01:32 PM |
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When the "weakest" among us get nary of word appreciation, when we are thrown under the bus, |
bobbolink |
Feb-02-08 01:20 PM |
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Sorry dude. There's nothing "false" about "hope." |
VolcanoJen |
Feb-02-08 01:36 PM |
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Lol! |
BeatleBoot |
Feb-02-08 01:38 PM |
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Except false hope |
ClericJohnPreston |
Feb-02-08 01:49 PM |
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How can you get any hope from empty words? |
TheGoldenRule |
Feb-02-08 01:59 PM |
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Maybe you're just not listening. |
VolcanoJen |
Feb-02-08 02:22 PM |
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I haven't heard A PLAN. All I've seen is the AUDACITY of HYPE. |
TheGoldenRule |
Feb-02-08 02:28 PM |
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Uh, there are plans galore in this very thread. |
VolcanoJen |
Feb-02-08 02:39 PM |
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So what about all those corporate donations? Why are you turning a blind eye to them? |
TheGoldenRule |
Feb-02-08 03:10 PM |
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The (Unjustified) Hope of Audacity. N/T |
Hannah Bell |
Feb-02-08 03:00 PM |
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I have to read about Obama |
ClericJohnPreston |
Feb-02-08 02:35 PM |
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Mein Kampf?? |
VolcanoJen |
Feb-02-08 02:37 PM |
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That I have to read about Obama |
ClericJohnPreston |
Feb-02-08 02:41 PM |
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So I guess you were born knowing everything about John Edwards? |
NYCGirl |
Feb-02-08 02:44 PM |
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Keyboard Warrior Syndrome. |
ellisonz |
Feb-02-08 06:34 PM |
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Good way to put it, ellisonz. NT |
NYCGirl |
Feb-02-08 09:17 PM |
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No, looks like he knows Edwards' record |
jackson_dem |
Feb-03-08 02:52 AM |
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I didn't need a bio to understand Obama. |
VolcanoJen |
Feb-02-08 02:45 PM |
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Comment on the thread |
ClericJohnPreston |
Feb-02-08 02:54 PM |
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First things first. |
VolcanoJen |
Feb-02-08 03:06 PM |
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You obviously have NOT learned a thing in all the "years" you've been here. |
TheGoldenRule |
Feb-02-08 04:15 PM |
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So I guess you haven't read my post, or the other one below, about... |
VolcanoJen |
Feb-02-08 04:23 PM |
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What about the MILLIONS & MILLIONS OF DOLLARS Obama took from Corporations? |
TheGoldenRule |
Feb-02-08 04:34 PM |
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You know what? Even Edwards supporters shouldn't try this tack. |
VolcanoJen |
Feb-02-08 04:45 PM |
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What Edwards got was a DROP in the bucket compared to the MILLIONS & MILLIONS that Obama got. |
TheGoldenRule |
Feb-02-08 07:47 PM |
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You've linked |
ClericJohnPreston |
Feb-02-08 05:39 PM |
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No, It is not mere wishes and fantasy. |
VolcanoJen |
Feb-02-08 05:49 PM |
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Kiddo............. |
pauldg0 |
Feb-03-08 01:43 AM |
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Self-Delete n/t |
Stand and Fight |
Feb-03-08 06:02 AM |
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Snakeoil Salesman is exactly what I was thinking. Brought to you by Oprah. nt |
TheGoldenRule |
Feb-02-08 04:02 PM |
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you can't be serious |
Two Americas |
Feb-02-08 03:11 PM |
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In my own defense... |
VolcanoJen |
Feb-02-08 03:22 PM |
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understood |
Two Americas |
Feb-02-08 03:51 PM |
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I encourage you to continue to stand with Edwards supporters. |
VolcanoJen |
Feb-02-08 04:00 PM |
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But I think you are |
ClericJohnPreston |
Feb-02-08 04:08 PM |
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Well, at least you admitted the "Mein Kampf" response was flippant. |
VolcanoJen |
Feb-02-08 04:18 PM |
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We already have such a program |
lisainmilo |
Feb-03-08 12:38 AM |
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I thought the same thing when I read it.... |
unapatriciated |
Feb-03-08 01:04 AM |
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thank you |
Two Americas |
Feb-02-08 04:43 PM |
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And thank you, too. |
VolcanoJen |
Feb-02-08 04:50 PM |
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VolcanoJen |
ClericJohnPreston |
Feb-02-08 05:00 PM |
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ClericJohnPreston |
VolcanoJen |
Feb-02-08 05:06 PM |
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completely valid |
Two Americas |
Feb-02-08 05:08 PM |
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I will continue to consider your point of view thoughtfuly... |
VolcanoJen |
Feb-02-08 05:12 PM |
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I thought of something else. |
VolcanoJen |
Feb-02-08 06:14 PM |
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that is great |
Two Americas |
Feb-02-08 07:46 PM |
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I want to thank you both |
quakerboy |
Feb-02-08 11:35 PM |
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ummm... |
desertflamingo |
Feb-02-08 10:10 PM |
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Disagreement is not ignorance. "Informed" is not always the path to "Truth". |
unc70 |
Feb-02-08 05:33 PM |
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I feel you haven't read through the thread. |
VolcanoJen |
Feb-02-08 05:38 PM |
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I read the entire thread before I began the post. |
unc70 |
Feb-02-08 06:05 PM |
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Well, you've still mischaracterized the discussion. |
VolcanoJen |
Feb-02-08 06:26 PM |
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Let me play back what you have said, then tell me that I mischaracterized!! |
unc70 |
Feb-02-08 09:23 PM |
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I've read both of his books... |
Stand and Fight |
Feb-03-08 05:57 AM |
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Have you ever read "Living History" by Hillary Rodham Clinton? |
madmom |
Feb-03-08 07:40 AM |
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crickets!!!!!!...why am I not surprised. |
madmom |
Feb-03-08 08:23 AM |
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Hoping for Change, I see |
Yael |
Feb-02-08 05:47 PM |
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I was an Edwards supporter from the beginning and I will be voting for Obama. |
Political Heretic |
Feb-02-08 01:56 PM |
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Funny how people react |
ClericJohnPreston |
Feb-02-08 02:01 PM |
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The assumption that anyone who disagrees with you must be shutting down the message is called |
Political Heretic |
Feb-02-08 08:01 PM |
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did it ever occur to you... |
Two Americas |
Feb-02-08 02:14 PM |
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No. It did not occur to me that anyone might be looking at politics more deeply than me. |
Political Heretic |
Feb-02-08 08:04 PM |
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Obama took MILLIONS in corporate money. Edwards did NOT. Therein lies the difference. |
TheGoldenRule |
Feb-02-08 04:23 PM |
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Hard for them to wake up |
ClericJohnPreston |
Feb-02-08 04:36 PM |
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Wow. What has happened to critical thinking?! |
TheGoldenRule |
Feb-02-08 05:17 PM |
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fear and desperation |
Two Americas |
Feb-02-08 06:06 PM |
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Excellent post and writing Two Americas |
ClericJohnPreston |
Feb-02-08 07:27 PM |
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I am not afriad. I just disagree with you. |
Political Heretic |
Feb-02-08 08:10 PM |
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I believe you |
Two Americas |
Feb-02-08 08:51 PM |
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you are not the only angry one, two americas! |
desertflamingo |
Feb-02-08 10:23 PM |
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Nothing has "happened" to critical thinking. We just disagree. |
Political Heretic |
Feb-02-08 08:05 PM |
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It ends an aggressive anti-GLBT agenda that includes things like proposed constitutional amendments. |
desertflamingo |
Feb-02-08 10:24 PM |
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Bullshit. |
Political Heretic |
Feb-02-08 11:43 PM |
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really? |
desertflamingo |
Feb-03-08 12:52 AM |
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Straw man. |
Political Heretic |
Feb-03-08 01:56 AM |
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what i meant and i thought was clear... |
desertflamingo |
Feb-03-08 03:06 AM |
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You continue your staw man argument. I think you are confused. |
Political Heretic |
Feb-03-08 02:24 PM |
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Read your sig line |
ClericJohnPreston |
Feb-03-08 06:17 PM |
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also irrelevant |
Political Heretic |
Feb-03-08 07:27 PM |
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Where's the bar, now? |
VolcanoJen |
Feb-02-08 05:20 PM |
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who is married to a candidate? |
Two Americas |
Feb-02-08 08:02 PM |
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I am not an ideological purity elitist. |
Political Heretic |
Feb-02-08 08:09 PM |
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shadow boxing |
Two Americas |
Feb-02-08 10:22 PM |
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Response |
Political Heretic |
Feb-03-08 12:17 AM |
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response |
Two Americas |
Feb-03-08 01:45 AM |
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great post ClericJohnPreston |
Two Americas |
Feb-02-08 02:01 PM |
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Do you know who the guy is? |
stillcool47 |
Feb-02-08 02:17 PM |
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Thanks |
ClericJohnPreston |
Feb-02-08 02:30 PM |
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Why do you expect me... |
stillcool47 |
Feb-02-08 02:53 PM |
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Don't be so damn insulting |
Indenturedebtor |
Feb-02-08 02:24 PM |
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Because you have to THINK |
ClericJohnPreston |
Feb-02-08 02:46 PM |
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I couldn't agree more |
blues90 |
Feb-02-08 02:28 PM |
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Great post! Beautifully written. |
Beaverhausen |
Feb-02-08 02:42 PM |
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So what about the |
alteredstate |
Feb-02-08 05:04 PM |
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Wha, wha, WHAT????? |
ClericJohnPreston |
Feb-02-08 05:35 PM |
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It's a bill Senator Obama introduced |
alteredstate |
Feb-02-08 05:46 PM |
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Introduced.... |
ClericJohnPreston |
Feb-02-08 09:48 PM |
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The Veterans Homelessness Prevention Act is S.2330 |
alteredstate |
Feb-03-08 07:46 AM |
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Great post! K&R!! |
iris5426 |
Feb-02-08 02:52 PM |
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I, too, have researched Obama |
NastyRiffraff |
Feb-02-08 03:13 PM |
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YES, WE CAN! |
Prefer |
Feb-02-08 03:15 PM |
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Great Post As Was Your Earlier One... And THERE IS Something To |
ChiciB1 |
Feb-02-08 03:20 PM |
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i'm interested in knowing about your email. do tell... |
desertflamingo |
Feb-02-08 10:32 PM |
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Just Checking Replies... Be Back In the AM & Will Elaborate... Having A |
ChiciB1 |
Feb-02-08 11:20 PM |
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You are consistently one of my favorite posters on DU. |
Straight Shooter |
Feb-02-08 03:25 PM |
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Thank you! |
ClericJohnPreston |
Feb-02-08 04:12 PM |
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K&R |
BuffyTheFundieSlayer |
Feb-02-08 04:04 PM |
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Amen to that! |
ClericJohnPreston |
Feb-02-08 04:26 PM |
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An enthusiastic K&R! |
Blue State Native |
Feb-02-08 05:47 PM |
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Evening kickaroo! |
Yael |
Feb-02-08 05:49 PM |
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Thank you for that astute assessment. I too want specifics, |
Ojai Person |
Feb-02-08 07:46 PM |
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You just have to skim through their threads |
ClericJohnPreston |
Feb-02-08 07:54 PM |
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I have wondered if that is part of the manipulation going on.... |
Ojai Person |
Feb-03-08 11:16 AM |
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Sure it is just our imagination |
ClericJohnPreston |
Feb-02-08 08:01 PM |
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Dr. Obama's Traveling Salvation Show |
AndyA |
Feb-02-08 08:12 PM |
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There goes my monitor! |
ClericJohnPreston |
Feb-02-08 09:29 PM |
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Ponies dude, ponies! n/t |
lumberjack_jeff |
Feb-02-08 08:30 PM |
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beautifully written. |
desertflamingo |
Feb-02-08 09:59 PM |
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. |
Blue-Jay |
Feb-02-08 10:24 PM |
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What absolute and utter bullshit. Coming from an Edwards supporter, I am shocked. There is not |
K Gardner |
Feb-02-08 10:27 PM |
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I don't agree |
ClericJohnPreston |
Feb-03-08 10:59 AM |
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Im glad Im not the only one.................... |
AlaskaMaddie2008 |
Feb-02-08 11:32 PM |
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Hillary 08! Dreams take work! |
REDFISHBLUEFISH |
Feb-02-08 11:39 PM |
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Twenty years of two-family dynasty is enough. |
Political Heretic |
Feb-03-08 12:19 AM |
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And having one family run two countries, America and Kenya is any better? |
jackson_dem |
Feb-03-08 02:56 AM |
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What does that mean? |
ClericJohnPreston |
Feb-03-08 12:31 PM |
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Words are cheap. |
TheWatcher |
Feb-03-08 02:49 AM |
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I found out that the Obama supporters don't believe |
BlackVelvet04 |
Feb-03-08 02:04 AM |
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we're going to have to do it ourselves :P |
stickernation |
Feb-03-08 02:44 AM |
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"What he stands for is unimportant - what is important is that all my friends are here with me." |
ClericJohnPreston |
Feb-03-08 04:37 AM |
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Great Post, but it's hard to argue with infatuated people |
LadyVT |
Feb-03-08 02:51 AM |
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A purposeful blank screen at that! |
ClericJohnPreston |
Feb-03-08 10:53 AM |
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Yes, Obamamania is interesting from a psychological and even spiritual perspective. |
Ojai Person |
Feb-03-08 12:53 PM |
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Great post |
ClericJohnPreston |
Feb-03-08 01:15 PM |
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Goverenace Is About Policy, Not About Hopes And Prayers! |
lostnotforgotten |
Feb-03-08 02:52 AM |
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Yes, where will they all be once the balloons and confetti drop? |
RestoreGore |
Feb-03-08 06:55 AM |
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How refreshing! This is the kind of post which once attracted me to DU in the first place. AWESOME!! |
mtnsnake |
Feb-03-08 08:44 AM |
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Anytime |
ClericJohnPreston |
Feb-03-08 11:01 AM |
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K&R...n/t |
ms liberty |
Feb-03-08 10:25 AM |
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Thanks for the warning |
windoe |
Feb-03-08 11:15 AM |
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K&R |
balantz |
Feb-03-08 11:17 AM |
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The War Authorization Vote is all you need to know |
GrimReefa |
Feb-03-08 11:33 AM |
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Nice try, but inaccurate, of course |
ClericJohnPreston |
Feb-03-08 11:46 AM |
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It's called responsibility |
GrimReefa |
Feb-03-08 01:22 PM |
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But who continued funding? And voted against redeployment UNTIL 2006? |
PerpetuallyDazed |
Feb-03-08 12:17 PM |
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Right off an Obama website |
ClericJohnPreston |
Feb-03-08 12:36 PM |
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BO and HRC are cut from the same DLC cloth. |
stimbox |
Feb-03-08 12:28 PM |
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As I've said |
ClericJohnPreston |
Feb-03-08 12:38 PM |
#180 |
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Yep, two peas in a DLC pod |
stimbox |
Feb-03-08 12:41 PM |
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Hey, thanks for the sewage. |
Capn Sunshine |
Feb-03-08 12:56 PM |
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Try writing what I can |
ClericJohnPreston |
Feb-03-08 03:08 PM |
#187 |