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doc03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-03-08 10:27 PM
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78. I haven't read Obama's book but from what I have heard
he admits to using cocaine. This puzzles me because everyone on this board and people on Air America
have been making comments about Bush's alleged cocaine use for years. I haven't seen any evidence at all that GWB actually used cocaine. I have heard accusations that he was arrested at one time for it but the records disappeared. Maybe they did, who knows, but how can anyone prove it either way. But Obama actually admits it and gets a free pass from most Democrats and the MSM. You can bet the farm on one thing the Republicans won't give him a pass on it.
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  -Obama is the only candidate making race an issue. ginchinchili  Feb-02-08 10:23 AM   #0 
  - So what your really saying is he is using race because he is black  5X   Feb-02-08 10:43 AM   #1 
  - ...  Blue State Native   Feb-02-08 10:47 AM   #2 
  - No. What I'm saying is that he's using race for political gain.  ginchinchili   Feb-02-08 11:04 AM   #8 
     - Got a link to the actual quote, in context?  smoogatz   Feb-02-08 11:26 AM   #21 
        - Ted Kennedy is saying "vote Obama because it's politically correct"  neutron   Feb-03-08 05:12 AM   #63 
           - There's a lot of that feeling circulating Obama's campaign.  ginchinchili   Feb-03-08 02:50 PM   #76 
  - Do you have your fire retardent  doc03   Feb-02-08 10:56 AM   #3 
  - Yes, you've named some of the other examples...  ginchinchili   Feb-02-08 11:09 AM   #12 
  - He has gotten a total free ride  doc03   Feb-02-08 11:15 AM   #14 
     - It did hurt his candidacy, though I suspect it wouldn't have mattered.  ginchinchili   Feb-02-08 11:30 AM   #24 
  - Obama's campaign is based on reacting to anything Hillary says  niceypoo   Feb-02-08 11:16 AM   #15 
  - Clinton (HR) is using gender, but Clinton (B) is using race.  jakem   Feb-02-08 10:59 AM   #4 
  - Whatever.  ginchinchili   Feb-02-08 11:11 AM   # 
     - that was a great and helpful comment. thanks!  jakem   Feb-02-08 11:47 AM   #31 
     - Give me something to comment on and I will.  ginchinchili   Feb-02-08 11:56 AM   #34 
     - "Whatever"- is code word for "I refuse to admit I'm wrong- even when it's obvious".  Bluerthanblue   Feb-02-08 12:40 PM   #43 
        - And you say this why?  ginchinchili   Feb-02-08 12:43 PM   #45 
  - I agree  seasonedblue   Feb-02-08 10:59 AM   #5 
  - I agree with you. Obama accused Clinton of racism to win SC  Evergreen Emerald   Feb-02-08 11:00 AM   #6 
  - I don't know how many times I have heard  doc03   Feb-02-08 11:09 AM   #11 
  - I know some guys who do that too.  ginchinchili   Feb-02-08 11:18 AM   #18 
  - That poor Obama using the "Jackson" strategy to win SC and lose the nomination.  pampango   Feb-02-08 11:16 AM   #16 
     - you are ignoring the facts. In fact, it is laughable that people actually  Evergreen Emerald   Feb-02-08 11:28 AM   #23 
     - That American dynamic saddens and frightens me as well.  ginchinchili   Feb-02-08 11:41 AM   #27 
     - The only person who would benefits, in terms of who wins the nomination, is Clinton.  pampango   Feb-02-08 11:43 AM   #29 
     - And, of course, the MSM.  ginchinchili   Feb-02-08 11:58 AM   #35 
     - Exactly, why can't people see that? Why in the hell  doc03   Feb-02-08 10:50 PM   #49 
     - This is what I don't understand: how did B. Clinton make Obama the BLACK candidate?  ginchinchili   Feb-02-08 11:39 AM   #26 
     - It sounds like we agree that Obama is intelligent, it would be unethical for anyone  pampango   Feb-02-08 12:06 PM   #36 
        - It sounds like where we differ is that I don't think a double standard is ok.  ginchinchili   Feb-02-08 12:18 PM   #38 
        - Well, that thread was useful in at least inspiring your post.  krkaufman   Feb-03-08 02:40 AM   #53 
     - Now why would bill Clinton intentionally  doc03   Feb-02-08 10:46 PM   #48 
        - Oh, come on. Why would Bill be reluctant to lose SC, if it enhanced benefited Hillary's chances?  pampango   Feb-03-08 05:03 AM   #62 
  - Just watched in Idaho. Making promises that sound very much like things  jasmine621   Feb-02-08 11:02 AM   #7 
  - re: "angry about his remark ... she wouldn't get votes from his supporters"  krkaufman   Feb-03-08 02:51 AM   #54 
  - Re: "it is the most divisive statement of the campaign so far"  krkaufman   Feb-03-08 02:59 AM   #56 
  - I do agree that he whipped it up way too much.  Rock_Garden   Feb-02-08 11:05 AM   #9 
  - You DON'T KNOW Clintons like you think you do. THEY brought up race  blm   Feb-02-08 11:08 AM   #10 
  - I disagree. And if you look at the timeline and the facts...they do not support  Evergreen Emerald   Feb-02-08 11:34 AM   #25 
  - Re: "the only person who would benefit from racial animosity is Obama"  krkaufman   Feb-03-08 03:07 AM   #57 
  - You're suggesting that the Clintons didn't know...  ginchinchili   Feb-02-08 11:47 AM   #32 
     - And Bill chose to appeal to the OTHER STATES where the NEXT primaries were being held.  blm   Feb-02-08 12:34 PM   #41 
     - With what rhetoric?  ginchinchili   Feb-02-08 12:42 PM   #44 
     - It wasn't about South Carolina. It was about branding Obama ...  krkaufman   Feb-03-08 03:10 AM   #58 
  - Well, I've lost respect for both Clintons  WesDem   Feb-02-08 11:11 AM   #13 
  - Because of a frenzy of media spin  niceypoo   Feb-02-08 11:17 AM   #17 
  - I don't need media spin or Republicans to help me in making my own judgments  WesDem   Feb-02-08 11:53 AM   #33 
  - Ditto. My shift began immediately after Iowa ...  krkaufman   Feb-03-08 03:15 AM   #61 
  - I've heard the clintons say BLACK/BROWN etc. 20x more than Obama has  Levgreee   Feb-02-08 11:22 AM   #19 
  - "Obama has tried very hard to avoid race..." this is hogwash.  ginchinchili   Feb-02-08 12:11 PM   #37 
  - Agreed. It's totally unfair that he's black.  smoogatz   Feb-02-08 11:25 AM   #20 
  - in every obama speech "asians and latinos, blacks and whites"  DiamondJay   Feb-02-08 11:27 AM   #22 
  - Well said. I also perceived that it was the Obama camp  intheozone   Feb-02-08 11:41 AM   #28 
  - Good post. I totally agree.  ginchinchili   Feb-02-08 12:20 PM   #39 
  - This is why an African-American will always have trouble winning  maximusveritas   Feb-02-08 11:46 AM   #30 
  - I disagree. Obama wouldn't have gotten this far...  ginchinchili   Feb-02-08 12:33 PM   #40 
  - The 'race card' is an idiotic invention of racists...  sampsonblk   Feb-02-08 12:39 PM   #42 
  - Yes, it's one of those terms that people create meaning for...  ginchinchili   Feb-02-08 12:45 PM   #46 
  - good point- like "tree-huggers" for those who point at global warming  Bluerthanblue   Feb-02-08 12:50 PM   #47 
  - Thank you.  Political Heretic   Feb-03-08 03:03 PM   #77 
  - What a crock o'  zidzi   Feb-02-08 10:52 PM   #50 
  - Thanks, but I'm not a player in this primary race.  ginchinchili   Feb-03-08 01:25 AM   #52 
  - I couldn't agree more. And if he loses, I think this will be why.  wlucinda   Feb-02-08 11:21 PM   #51 
  - Personally  Jim4Wes   Feb-03-08 02:57 AM   #55 
  - I agree, accept that Obama really hurt Hillary in the black community...  ginchinchili   Feb-03-08 12:55 PM   #67 
  - Bill Clinton pulled out the race card, not Obama.  ErnestoG   Feb-03-08 03:12 AM   #59 
  - How did Bill Clinton use race against Obama?  ginchinchili   Feb-03-08 12:56 PM   #68 
  - Read ESPN magazine  margotb822   Feb-03-08 03:13 AM   #60 
  - The Obama people talk race constantly. They're obsessed with it.  Perry Logan   Feb-03-08 05:28 AM   #64 
  - What if Obama were WHITE?  sylvieb   Feb-03-08 06:20 AM   #65 
  - I think if he was white  doc03   Feb-03-08 11:33 AM   #66 
  - I agree with you, too. I've been amazed at how little scrutinity Obama has gotten...  ginchinchili   Feb-03-08 01:11 PM   #71 
     - I haven't read Obama's book but from what I have heard  doc03   Feb-03-08 10:27 PM   #78 
  - I think your professors are wrong.  ginchinchili   Feb-03-08 01:09 PM   #69 
  - But I will still vote for him in the GE....  Aviation Pro   Feb-03-08 01:10 PM   #70 
  - If that was the real goal of Democrats they would have nominated Biden.  ginchinchili   Feb-03-08 01:13 PM   #72 
  - One thing I don't get about Obama is  pirhana   Feb-03-08 01:23 PM   #73 
  - That's a good question.  ginchinchili   Feb-03-08 02:48 PM   #75 
  - Obama's Swiftboating of Clinton on Race worked in SC.  MethuenProgressive   Feb-03-08 01:26 PM   #74 

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