margotb822
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Sun Feb-03-08 03:13 AM
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They have professional athletes voting for Obama because he is black...it's wrong and contgious!
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| -Obama is the only candidate making race an issue. |
ginchinchili |
Feb-02-08 10:23 AM |
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So what your really saying is he is using race because he is black |
5X |
Feb-02-08 10:43 AM |
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... |
Blue State Native |
Feb-02-08 10:47 AM |
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No. What I'm saying is that he's using race for political gain. |
ginchinchili |
Feb-02-08 11:04 AM |
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Got a link to the actual quote, in context? |
smoogatz |
Feb-02-08 11:26 AM |
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Ted Kennedy is saying "vote Obama because it's politically correct" |
neutron |
Feb-03-08 05:12 AM |
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There's a lot of that feeling circulating Obama's campaign. |
ginchinchili |
Feb-03-08 02:50 PM |
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Do you have your fire retardent |
doc03 |
Feb-02-08 10:56 AM |
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Yes, you've named some of the other examples... |
ginchinchili |
Feb-02-08 11:09 AM |
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He has gotten a total free ride |
doc03 |
Feb-02-08 11:15 AM |
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It did hurt his candidacy, though I suspect it wouldn't have mattered. |
ginchinchili |
Feb-02-08 11:30 AM |
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Obama's campaign is based on reacting to anything Hillary says |
niceypoo |
Feb-02-08 11:16 AM |
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Clinton (HR) is using gender, but Clinton (B) is using race. |
jakem |
Feb-02-08 10:59 AM |
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Whatever. |
ginchinchili |
Feb-02-08 11:11 AM |
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that was a great and helpful comment. thanks! |
jakem |
Feb-02-08 11:47 AM |
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Give me something to comment on and I will. |
ginchinchili |
Feb-02-08 11:56 AM |
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"Whatever"- is code word for "I refuse to admit I'm wrong- even when it's obvious". |
Bluerthanblue |
Feb-02-08 12:40 PM |
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And you say this why? |
ginchinchili |
Feb-02-08 12:43 PM |
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I agree |
seasonedblue |
Feb-02-08 10:59 AM |
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I agree with you. Obama accused Clinton of racism to win SC |
Evergreen Emerald |
Feb-02-08 11:00 AM |
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I don't know how many times I have heard |
doc03 |
Feb-02-08 11:09 AM |
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I know some guys who do that too. |
ginchinchili |
Feb-02-08 11:18 AM |
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That poor Obama using the "Jackson" strategy to win SC and lose the nomination. |
pampango |
Feb-02-08 11:16 AM |
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you are ignoring the facts. In fact, it is laughable that people actually |
Evergreen Emerald |
Feb-02-08 11:28 AM |
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That American dynamic saddens and frightens me as well. |
ginchinchili |
Feb-02-08 11:41 AM |
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The only person who would benefits, in terms of who wins the nomination, is Clinton. |
pampango |
Feb-02-08 11:43 AM |
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And, of course, the MSM. |
ginchinchili |
Feb-02-08 11:58 AM |
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Exactly, why can't people see that? Why in the hell |
doc03 |
Feb-02-08 10:50 PM |
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This is what I don't understand: how did B. Clinton make Obama the BLACK candidate? |
ginchinchili |
Feb-02-08 11:39 AM |
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It sounds like we agree that Obama is intelligent, it would be unethical for anyone |
pampango |
Feb-02-08 12:06 PM |
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It sounds like where we differ is that I don't think a double standard is ok. |
ginchinchili |
Feb-02-08 12:18 PM |
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Well, that thread was useful in at least inspiring your post. |
krkaufman |
Feb-03-08 02:40 AM |
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Now why would bill Clinton intentionally |
doc03 |
Feb-02-08 10:46 PM |
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Oh, come on. Why would Bill be reluctant to lose SC, if it enhanced benefited Hillary's chances? |
pampango |
Feb-03-08 05:03 AM |
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Just watched in Idaho. Making promises that sound very much like things |
jasmine621 |
Feb-02-08 11:02 AM |
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re: "angry about his remark ... she wouldn't get votes from his supporters" |
krkaufman |
Feb-03-08 02:51 AM |
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Re: "it is the most divisive statement of the campaign so far" |
krkaufman |
Feb-03-08 02:59 AM |
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I do agree that he whipped it up way too much. |
Rock_Garden |
Feb-02-08 11:05 AM |
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You DON'T KNOW Clintons like you think you do. THEY brought up race |
blm |
Feb-02-08 11:08 AM |
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I disagree. And if you look at the timeline and the facts...they do not support |
Evergreen Emerald |
Feb-02-08 11:34 AM |
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Re: "the only person who would benefit from racial animosity is Obama" |
krkaufman |
Feb-03-08 03:07 AM |
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You're suggesting that the Clintons didn't know... |
ginchinchili |
Feb-02-08 11:47 AM |
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And Bill chose to appeal to the OTHER STATES where the NEXT primaries were being held. |
blm |
Feb-02-08 12:34 PM |
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With what rhetoric? |
ginchinchili |
Feb-02-08 12:42 PM |
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It wasn't about South Carolina. It was about branding Obama ... |
krkaufman |
Feb-03-08 03:10 AM |
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Well, I've lost respect for both Clintons |
WesDem |
Feb-02-08 11:11 AM |
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Because of a frenzy of media spin |
niceypoo |
Feb-02-08 11:17 AM |
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I don't need media spin or Republicans to help me in making my own judgments |
WesDem |
Feb-02-08 11:53 AM |
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Ditto. My shift began immediately after Iowa ... |
krkaufman |
Feb-03-08 03:15 AM |
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I've heard the clintons say BLACK/BROWN etc. 20x more than Obama has |
Levgreee |
Feb-02-08 11:22 AM |
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"Obama has tried very hard to avoid race..." this is hogwash. |
ginchinchili |
Feb-02-08 12:11 PM |
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Agreed. It's totally unfair that he's black. |
smoogatz |
Feb-02-08 11:25 AM |
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in every obama speech "asians and latinos, blacks and whites" |
DiamondJay |
Feb-02-08 11:27 AM |
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Well said. I also perceived that it was the Obama camp |
intheozone |
Feb-02-08 11:41 AM |
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Good post. I totally agree. |
ginchinchili |
Feb-02-08 12:20 PM |
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This is why an African-American will always have trouble winning |
maximusveritas |
Feb-02-08 11:46 AM |
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I disagree. Obama wouldn't have gotten this far... |
ginchinchili |
Feb-02-08 12:33 PM |
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The 'race card' is an idiotic invention of racists... |
sampsonblk |
Feb-02-08 12:39 PM |
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Yes, it's one of those terms that people create meaning for... |
ginchinchili |
Feb-02-08 12:45 PM |
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good point- like "tree-huggers" for those who point at global warming |
Bluerthanblue |
Feb-02-08 12:50 PM |
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Thank you. |
Political Heretic |
Feb-03-08 03:03 PM |
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What a crock o' |
zidzi |
Feb-02-08 10:52 PM |
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Thanks, but I'm not a player in this primary race. |
ginchinchili |
Feb-03-08 01:25 AM |
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I couldn't agree more. And if he loses, I think this will be why. |
wlucinda |
Feb-02-08 11:21 PM |
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Personally |
Jim4Wes |
Feb-03-08 02:57 AM |
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I agree, accept that Obama really hurt Hillary in the black community... |
ginchinchili |
Feb-03-08 12:55 PM |
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Bill Clinton pulled out the race card, not Obama. |
ErnestoG |
Feb-03-08 03:12 AM |
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How did Bill Clinton use race against Obama? |
ginchinchili |
Feb-03-08 12:56 PM |
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Read ESPN magazine |
margotb822 |
Feb-03-08 03:13 AM |
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The Obama people talk race constantly. They're obsessed with it. |
Perry Logan |
Feb-03-08 05:28 AM |
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What if Obama were WHITE? |
sylvieb |
Feb-03-08 06:20 AM |
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I think if he was white |
doc03 |
Feb-03-08 11:33 AM |
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I agree with you, too. I've been amazed at how little scrutinity Obama has gotten... |
ginchinchili |
Feb-03-08 01:11 PM |
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I haven't read Obama's book but from what I have heard |
doc03 |
Feb-03-08 10:27 PM |
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I think your professors are wrong. |
ginchinchili |
Feb-03-08 01:09 PM |
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But I will still vote for him in the GE.... |
Aviation Pro |
Feb-03-08 01:10 PM |
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If that was the real goal of Democrats they would have nominated Biden. |
ginchinchili |
Feb-03-08 01:13 PM |
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One thing I don't get about Obama is |
pirhana |
Feb-03-08 01:23 PM |
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That's a good question. |
ginchinchili |
Feb-03-08 02:48 PM |
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Obama's Swiftboating of Clinton on Race worked in SC. |
MethuenProgressive |
Feb-03-08 01:26 PM |
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