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Sat Feb-02-08 12:39 PM
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| 42. The 'race card' is an idiotic invention of racists... |
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in a weak attempt to innoculate themselves against charges that they are extremely fucked up people.
Race is one of the most important issues that exists in America. But nowadays, racial issues are not to be discussed. Even alluding to it in the slightest way is referred to as playing the race card.
What a dumb, transparent trick some of us have fallen for.
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| -Obama is the only candidate making race an issue. |
ginchinchili |
Feb-02-08 10:23 AM |
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So what your really saying is he is using race because he is black |
5X |
Feb-02-08 10:43 AM |
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... |
Blue State Native |
Feb-02-08 10:47 AM |
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No. What I'm saying is that he's using race for political gain. |
ginchinchili |
Feb-02-08 11:04 AM |
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Got a link to the actual quote, in context? |
smoogatz |
Feb-02-08 11:26 AM |
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Ted Kennedy is saying "vote Obama because it's politically correct" |
neutron |
Feb-03-08 05:12 AM |
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There's a lot of that feeling circulating Obama's campaign. |
ginchinchili |
Feb-03-08 02:50 PM |
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Do you have your fire retardent |
doc03 |
Feb-02-08 10:56 AM |
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Yes, you've named some of the other examples... |
ginchinchili |
Feb-02-08 11:09 AM |
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He has gotten a total free ride |
doc03 |
Feb-02-08 11:15 AM |
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It did hurt his candidacy, though I suspect it wouldn't have mattered. |
ginchinchili |
Feb-02-08 11:30 AM |
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Obama's campaign is based on reacting to anything Hillary says |
niceypoo |
Feb-02-08 11:16 AM |
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Clinton (HR) is using gender, but Clinton (B) is using race. |
jakem |
Feb-02-08 10:59 AM |
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Whatever. |
ginchinchili |
Feb-02-08 11:11 AM |
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that was a great and helpful comment. thanks! |
jakem |
Feb-02-08 11:47 AM |
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Give me something to comment on and I will. |
ginchinchili |
Feb-02-08 11:56 AM |
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"Whatever"- is code word for "I refuse to admit I'm wrong- even when it's obvious". |
Bluerthanblue |
Feb-02-08 12:40 PM |
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And you say this why? |
ginchinchili |
Feb-02-08 12:43 PM |
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I agree |
seasonedblue |
Feb-02-08 10:59 AM |
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I agree with you. Obama accused Clinton of racism to win SC |
Evergreen Emerald |
Feb-02-08 11:00 AM |
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I don't know how many times I have heard |
doc03 |
Feb-02-08 11:09 AM |
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I know some guys who do that too. |
ginchinchili |
Feb-02-08 11:18 AM |
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That poor Obama using the "Jackson" strategy to win SC and lose the nomination. |
pampango |
Feb-02-08 11:16 AM |
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you are ignoring the facts. In fact, it is laughable that people actually |
Evergreen Emerald |
Feb-02-08 11:28 AM |
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That American dynamic saddens and frightens me as well. |
ginchinchili |
Feb-02-08 11:41 AM |
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The only person who would benefits, in terms of who wins the nomination, is Clinton. |
pampango |
Feb-02-08 11:43 AM |
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And, of course, the MSM. |
ginchinchili |
Feb-02-08 11:58 AM |
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Exactly, why can't people see that? Why in the hell |
doc03 |
Feb-02-08 10:50 PM |
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This is what I don't understand: how did B. Clinton make Obama the BLACK candidate? |
ginchinchili |
Feb-02-08 11:39 AM |
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It sounds like we agree that Obama is intelligent, it would be unethical for anyone |
pampango |
Feb-02-08 12:06 PM |
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It sounds like where we differ is that I don't think a double standard is ok. |
ginchinchili |
Feb-02-08 12:18 PM |
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Well, that thread was useful in at least inspiring your post. |
krkaufman |
Feb-03-08 02:40 AM |
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Now why would bill Clinton intentionally |
doc03 |
Feb-02-08 10:46 PM |
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Oh, come on. Why would Bill be reluctant to lose SC, if it enhanced benefited Hillary's chances? |
pampango |
Feb-03-08 05:03 AM |
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Just watched in Idaho. Making promises that sound very much like things |
jasmine621 |
Feb-02-08 11:02 AM |
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re: "angry about his remark ... she wouldn't get votes from his supporters" |
krkaufman |
Feb-03-08 02:51 AM |
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Re: "it is the most divisive statement of the campaign so far" |
krkaufman |
Feb-03-08 02:59 AM |
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I do agree that he whipped it up way too much. |
Rock_Garden |
Feb-02-08 11:05 AM |
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You DON'T KNOW Clintons like you think you do. THEY brought up race |
blm |
Feb-02-08 11:08 AM |
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I disagree. And if you look at the timeline and the facts...they do not support |
Evergreen Emerald |
Feb-02-08 11:34 AM |
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Re: "the only person who would benefit from racial animosity is Obama" |
krkaufman |
Feb-03-08 03:07 AM |
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You're suggesting that the Clintons didn't know... |
ginchinchili |
Feb-02-08 11:47 AM |
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And Bill chose to appeal to the OTHER STATES where the NEXT primaries were being held. |
blm |
Feb-02-08 12:34 PM |
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With what rhetoric? |
ginchinchili |
Feb-02-08 12:42 PM |
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It wasn't about South Carolina. It was about branding Obama ... |
krkaufman |
Feb-03-08 03:10 AM |
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Well, I've lost respect for both Clintons |
WesDem |
Feb-02-08 11:11 AM |
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Because of a frenzy of media spin |
niceypoo |
Feb-02-08 11:17 AM |
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I don't need media spin or Republicans to help me in making my own judgments |
WesDem |
Feb-02-08 11:53 AM |
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Ditto. My shift began immediately after Iowa ... |
krkaufman |
Feb-03-08 03:15 AM |
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I've heard the clintons say BLACK/BROWN etc. 20x more than Obama has |
Levgreee |
Feb-02-08 11:22 AM |
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"Obama has tried very hard to avoid race..." this is hogwash. |
ginchinchili |
Feb-02-08 12:11 PM |
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Agreed. It's totally unfair that he's black. |
smoogatz |
Feb-02-08 11:25 AM |
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in every obama speech "asians and latinos, blacks and whites" |
DiamondJay |
Feb-02-08 11:27 AM |
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Well said. I also perceived that it was the Obama camp |
intheozone |
Feb-02-08 11:41 AM |
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Good post. I totally agree. |
ginchinchili |
Feb-02-08 12:20 PM |
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This is why an African-American will always have trouble winning |
maximusveritas |
Feb-02-08 11:46 AM |
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I disagree. Obama wouldn't have gotten this far... |
ginchinchili |
Feb-02-08 12:33 PM |
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The 'race card' is an idiotic invention of racists... |
sampsonblk |
Feb-02-08 12:39 PM |
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Yes, it's one of those terms that people create meaning for... |
ginchinchili |
Feb-02-08 12:45 PM |
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good point- like "tree-huggers" for those who point at global warming |
Bluerthanblue |
Feb-02-08 12:50 PM |
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Thank you. |
Political Heretic |
Feb-03-08 03:03 PM |
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What a crock o' |
zidzi |
Feb-02-08 10:52 PM |
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Thanks, but I'm not a player in this primary race. |
ginchinchili |
Feb-03-08 01:25 AM |
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I couldn't agree more. And if he loses, I think this will be why. |
wlucinda |
Feb-02-08 11:21 PM |
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Personally |
Jim4Wes |
Feb-03-08 02:57 AM |
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I agree, accept that Obama really hurt Hillary in the black community... |
ginchinchili |
Feb-03-08 12:55 PM |
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Bill Clinton pulled out the race card, not Obama. |
ErnestoG |
Feb-03-08 03:12 AM |
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How did Bill Clinton use race against Obama? |
ginchinchili |
Feb-03-08 12:56 PM |
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Read ESPN magazine |
margotb822 |
Feb-03-08 03:13 AM |
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The Obama people talk race constantly. They're obsessed with it. |
Perry Logan |
Feb-03-08 05:28 AM |
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What if Obama were WHITE? |
sylvieb |
Feb-03-08 06:20 AM |
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I think if he was white |
doc03 |
Feb-03-08 11:33 AM |
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I agree with you, too. I've been amazed at how little scrutinity Obama has gotten... |
ginchinchili |
Feb-03-08 01:11 PM |
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I haven't read Obama's book but from what I have heard |
doc03 |
Feb-03-08 10:27 PM |
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I think your professors are wrong. |
ginchinchili |
Feb-03-08 01:09 PM |
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But I will still vote for him in the GE.... |
Aviation Pro |
Feb-03-08 01:10 PM |
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If that was the real goal of Democrats they would have nominated Biden. |
ginchinchili |
Feb-03-08 01:13 PM |
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One thing I don't get about Obama is |
pirhana |
Feb-03-08 01:23 PM |
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That's a good question. |
ginchinchili |
Feb-03-08 02:48 PM |
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Obama's Swiftboating of Clinton on Race worked in SC. |
MethuenProgressive |
Feb-03-08 01:26 PM |
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