ErnestoG
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Fri Feb-01-08 06:24 PM
Response to Reply #86 |
| 87. Obama lies? Oh I'm sure you have as much proof for that as you do the other... |
| -A reminder to Clinton supporters about an issue they wish would just go away |
ErnestoG |
Feb-01-08 05:52 PM |
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OBAMA DIDN'T VOTE AGAINST THE IWR. |
jlake |
Feb-01-08 05:53 PM |
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Was he in Congress then in order to do it? NO. |
ErnestoG |
Feb-01-08 05:53 PM |
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No, But I am getting tired of people saying he didn't vote for it..... and not accepting |
jlake |
Feb-01-08 05:54 PM |
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Then please cut out the disingenuous tripe. |
ErnestoG |
Feb-01-08 05:56 PM |
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disingenuous tripe is claiming Obama has been against the war from the beginning, |
jlake |
Feb-01-08 05:58 PM |
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Hillary enabled Bush's war. Obama didn't. Facts are facts. |
ErnestoG |
Feb-01-08 06:02 PM |
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The blame is being put squarely where it belongs... |
ingac70 |
Feb-01-08 06:03 PM |
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Yes, but that is not the ONLY position Obama took - you are cherrypicking. |
jlake |
Feb-01-08 06:05 PM |
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Cherrypicking? Like refusing to hold your candidate's feet to the fire? |
ErnestoG |
Feb-01-08 06:06 PM |
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I am not refusing to hold Hillary accountable -- I just see through Obama's schtick |
jlake |
Feb-01-08 06:07 PM |
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Sure you are. And not doing a particularly good job of it. |
ErnestoG |
Feb-01-08 06:08 PM |
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Oh dear. |
jlake |
Feb-01-08 06:10 PM |
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IP is one of this BLIND-FAITH FOLLOWERS---impossible to use reason with them |
rodeodance |
Feb-01-08 06:10 PM |
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It's really sad. But I guess true... |
jlake |
Feb-01-08 06:11 PM |
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Sure looks like facts put the Hillary supporter into a quick sprint in the other direction... |
ErnestoG |
Feb-01-08 06:12 PM |
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boo--fact is--I tire of your silly conjurations. bye |
rodeodance |
Feb-01-08 06:23 PM |
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Good luck helping Hillary hide her war vote from McCain's strategists. |
ErnestoG |
Feb-01-08 06:25 PM |
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I trust that she will do just fine. |
rodeodance |
Feb-01-08 07:12 PM |
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GET THIS: bush is respon for this war-GOT IT!!???? |
rodeodance |
Feb-01-08 06:08 PM |
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And he had help - like Hillary's vote. GOT THAT? |
ErnestoG |
Feb-01-08 06:09 PM |
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Blind-faith is dangerous. |
rodeodance |
Feb-01-08 06:11 PM |
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That's what I've been telling Hillary supporters. |
ErnestoG |
Feb-01-08 06:11 PM |
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You are the one with blind faith.. |
ingac70 |
Feb-01-08 06:13 PM |
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Thanks for your continuing to enlighten some |
truedelphi |
Feb-01-08 06:15 PM |
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She is very Bushian in that way. Can't cop to their own culpas. |
ErnestoG |
Feb-01-08 06:15 PM |
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Or Rovian, which is even worse. |
HughBeaumont |
Feb-01-08 07:21 PM |
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Plus a whole lot of other senators |
Irishonly |
Feb-01-08 07:27 PM |
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As are all who voted to let him go to war.. |
ingac70 |
Feb-01-08 06:10 PM |
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Well that is why for me the issue is not "Would I vote for a woman |
truedelphi |
Feb-01-08 06:19 PM |
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Exactly. It wasnt like Hillary would have been out on a rock by herself on that |
ErnestoG |
Feb-01-08 06:20 PM |
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Since he wasn't in the senate at the time, that's pretty much a foregone conclusion, isn't it? |
EmperorHasNoClothes |
Feb-01-08 05:55 PM |
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These people need a new dodge..... |
ErnestoG |
Feb-01-08 05:56 PM |
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Yeah, one would think. But unfortunately there are many who have been lead to believe |
jlake |
Feb-01-08 05:57 PM |
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Who? |
ErnestoG |
Feb-01-08 06:02 PM |
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Obamabots have lead many people to believe that is the case. |
jlake |
Feb-01-08 06:03 PM |
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WHO? Name them and give examples. |
ErnestoG |
Feb-01-08 06:06 PM |
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This thread. Post 3 doesn't seem to know he wasn't in the senate. |
jlake |
Feb-01-08 06:09 PM |
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Doesn't "seem" to know? |
ErnestoG |
Feb-01-08 06:11 PM |
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Okay - they flat out say it. |
jlake |
Feb-01-08 06:13 PM |
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Example? |
ErnestoG |
Feb-01-08 06:13 PM |
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The same link I gave you: |
jlake |
Feb-01-08 06:15 PM |
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You said that one "seemed" to say so. Thats not the same as "said it" |
ErnestoG |
Feb-01-08 06:16 PM |
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If you read the post they say it *Flat Out* |
jlake |
Feb-01-08 06:17 PM |
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"They"? It was one poster wasnt it? |
ErnestoG |
Feb-01-08 06:18 PM |
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Um Yeah, it was the example you asked for.... an obamabot who thinks Obama |
jlake |
Feb-01-08 06:20 PM |
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No, you said THEY. Plural. You showed me one. Are you trying to make a case using one person? |
ErnestoG |
Feb-01-08 06:21 PM |
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Please look through the archives. |
jlake |
Feb-01-08 06:23 PM |
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Obama lies? Oh I'm sure you have as much proof for that as you do the other... |
ErnestoG |
Feb-01-08 06:24 PM |
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I already proved my point and you tried to raise the bar. |
jlake |
Feb-01-08 06:25 PM |
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What point? You're all over the map! |
ErnestoG |
Feb-01-08 06:33 PM |
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Q: What does the GOP & Hillary have in common? |
DJ13 |
Feb-01-08 05:55 PM |
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Bingo! |
ErnestoG |
Feb-01-08 05:55 PM |
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I seem to remember winning that discussion, actually. |
joshcryer |
Feb-01-08 05:56 PM |
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In your mind, I'm sure that was the case. |
ErnestoG |
Feb-01-08 05:59 PM |
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On planet reality you didn't respond to my facts? |
joshcryer |
Feb-01-08 06:04 PM |
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When you produce any facts, we'll address that |
ErnestoG |
Feb-01-08 06:07 PM |
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You read my reply to you in the other thread. |
joshcryer |
Feb-01-08 06:08 PM |
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I read a string of nonsense with your name on it, if thats what you meant |
ErnestoG |
Feb-01-08 06:10 PM |
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Oh lordy, you clearly don't even want to have a discussion here. |
joshcryer |
Feb-01-08 06:13 PM |
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No, he didnt. Thats why they had the IWR. And you still dont get it wasnt a declared war. |
ErnestoG |
Feb-01-08 06:14 PM |
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They would have died anyways with or without Hillary. |
AGirl |
Feb-01-08 05:57 PM |
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Hillary did her part to enable it...and now runs from it. |
ErnestoG |
Feb-01-08 05:58 PM |
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the point is, she didn't cause those deaths.. |
AGirl |
Feb-01-08 05:59 PM |
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She enabled them. Obama didnt. Those are facts. |
ErnestoG |
Feb-01-08 06:00 PM |
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No, it is you who are questioning her very reasoned decision--demeaning. |
rodeodance |
Feb-01-08 06:16 PM |
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Very reasoned decision? She didnt even bother to read the NIE! |
ErnestoG |
Feb-01-08 06:17 PM |
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Obama used the excuse "my vote wouldn't have mattered" when he skipped |
jlake |
Feb-01-08 06:00 PM |
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He didn't vote for it. therefore you have no case. |
ErnestoG |
Feb-01-08 06:01 PM |
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He sure as fuck didn't vote against it. |
jlake |
Feb-01-08 06:02 PM |
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He wasnt in Congress then. How many times are you gonna try that canard? |
ErnestoG |
Feb-01-08 06:07 PM |
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It's not a canard, it's a fact. |
1corona4u |
Feb-01-08 07:23 PM |
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he is full of excuses--that iis his MO--but blind faith gets in the way doesn't it. |
rodeodance |
Feb-01-08 06:17 PM |
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Yes, you read the Hillary supporter very well. |
ErnestoG |
Feb-01-08 06:19 PM |
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She is not running. It was Obama who was SCARED of the lady in Red the other evening |
rodeodance |
Feb-01-08 06:14 PM |
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She goes into a mumbling fit whenever it comes up. The GOIP is gonna cream her with that |
ErnestoG |
Feb-01-08 06:17 PM |
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Her vote counted. n/t |
MrWiggles |
Feb-01-08 06:00 PM |
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Only one way to stop it, stop the funding. How does your guy |
Little Star |
Feb-01-08 05:59 PM |
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Only idiots want to leave the soldiers without food. |
ErnestoG |
Feb-01-08 06:00 PM |
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Soldiers have plenty of food, it's just not in Iraq. Their food is back home, where they would go... |
joshcryer |
Feb-01-08 06:13 PM |
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You mean because of people like Hillary putting them in Iraq? oh good argument LOL |
ErnestoG |
Feb-01-08 06:18 PM |
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What an idiot thing to say. NO withdrawal plans leaves soldiers without food. But you knew |
rodeodance |
Feb-01-08 06:22 PM |
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you're confusing withdrawal plans and a vote to put them there in the first place |
ErnestoG |
Feb-01-08 06:23 PM |
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How does HRC? |
MercutioATC |
Feb-01-08 06:14 PM |
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No. Just no. |
Sybbis |
Feb-01-08 06:02 PM |
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She has to own her part in it. And she won't. Is that presidential, to you? |
ErnestoG |
Feb-01-08 06:03 PM |
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Of course it's presidential... |
Sybbis |
Feb-01-08 06:32 PM |
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Are you familiar with the terms "aiding and abetting", or "accessory to a crime"? |
ErnestoG |
Feb-01-08 06:35 PM |
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"Barack was against the war before he had to take a stand." Odd camopaign slogan |
Yossariant |
Feb-01-08 06:03 PM |
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That really makes zero sense. How can you vote on a bill if you arent yet in Congress? |
ErnestoG |
Feb-01-08 06:05 PM |
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That's what I said. |
Yossariant |
Feb-01-08 06:06 PM |
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ANOTHR SHE DID NOT SAY SORRY THREAD!! GET USED TO IT!! |
rodeodance |
Feb-01-08 06:07 PM |
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do you want someone so irresponsible with a war vote to be president? |
ErnestoG |
Feb-01-08 06:08 PM |
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I do not see her in that way. so i am quite satisfied thank you. |
rodeodance |
Feb-01-08 06:20 PM |
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You can see her riding a yak, but that doesnt make it so. Talk about blind faith! |
ErnestoG |
Feb-01-08 06:22 PM |
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No worries. It will not be forgotten. |
AtomicKitten |
Feb-01-08 06:10 PM |
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Thank you. |
ErnestoG |
Feb-01-08 06:13 PM |
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How is this relevant now? |
nonconformist |
Feb-01-08 06:16 PM |
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It's relevent because she won't own her mistake. She is in massive denial |
ErnestoG |
Feb-01-08 06:21 PM |
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She's going to withdraw troops once she gets in |
goodgd_yall |
Feb-01-08 07:14 PM |
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Update - |
ErnestoG |
Feb-01-08 06:32 PM |
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A million dead Iraqies |
Harkpark |
Feb-01-08 07:15 PM |
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Obamites like to look to the future--except when there's a chance to get a shot at Hillary. |
Perry Logan |
Feb-01-08 07:16 PM |
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Haha |
Harkpark |
Feb-01-08 07:42 PM |
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She was lied to |
ecdab |
Feb-01-08 07:43 PM |
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Here's another issue they remain deathly silent on . . . |
HughBeaumont |
Feb-01-08 07:18 PM |
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This is really over the line.... |
1corona4u |
Feb-01-08 07:21 PM |
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Sorry I'M SICK OF MEN RUNNING THIS COUNTY! I can't vote for Obama |
demo dutch |
Feb-01-08 07:27 PM |
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She didn't start the war. Bush did. n/t |
Lil Missy |
Feb-01-08 07:41 PM |
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The occupation that the other candidate supported with his votes in the Senate |
bigtree |
Feb-01-08 07:45 PM |
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