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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-01-08 01:00 PM
Response to Reply #27
35. You are enabling secrecy by attacking the virtues of accountability and transparency.
There is nothing hateful about holding government accountable.

Secrecy is a cancer on democracy.
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  -Hillary has been fighting for government transparency longer then Obama has been in the Senate agdlp  Feb-01-08 12:10 PM   #0 
  - thanks very much  rodeodance   Feb-01-08 12:13 PM   #1 
  - Your welcome...  agdlp   Feb-01-08 12:15 PM   #3 
     - keep up the good work.  rodeodance   Feb-01-08 12:44 PM   #21 
  - She voted against an Office of Public Integrity  sandnsea   Feb-01-08 12:14 PM   #2 
  - Senior Democrat: New office would "duplicate the ethics commite and would "waste resources."  agdlp   Feb-01-08 12:19 PM   #5 
     - Do you believe Bush when he says he's for Clean Air? I'm sure you can find a transcript  blm   Feb-01-08 12:22 PM   #11 
     - Many titles are deceptive--you can throw them all day--I and others know that. You are off topic.  rodeodance   Feb-01-08 12:51 PM   #25 
        - No, I'm not. Transparency in government and Open Government are MY issues.  blm   Feb-01-08 09:36 PM   #67 
     - Because the ethics committee worked so well  sandnsea   Feb-01-08 12:24 PM   #13 
        - Ethics laws are important, but require bipartisan work, not just "left wings of your party  agdlp   Feb-01-08 12:44 PM   #20 
           - That had bipartisan support from all the clean govt people  sandnsea   Feb-01-08 01:09 PM   #46 
  - Then why won't the Clintons release their 2006 tax returns? Obama did.  cryingshame   Feb-01-08 12:16 PM   #4 
  - I guess thats why he got a SLUMLOARD to pay for his house ?  agdlp   Feb-01-08 12:21 PM   #9 
     - Clinton had BCCI criminal Jackson Stephens bankrolling his political career  blm   Feb-01-08 12:27 PM   #15 
     - What did that do to his relationship with Kerry?  LittleClarkie   Feb-01-08 01:08 PM   #43 
     - Oddly, at least we are privy to the Obama family finances. The Clintons are hiding something.  cryingshame   Feb-01-08 12:30 PM   #16 
     - so does your only talking point.  fenriswolf   Feb-01-08 01:15 PM   #49 
  - Hillary held her healthcare meetings in secret, locked out public interest groups and was sued and  John Q. Citizen   Feb-01-08 12:19 PM   #6 
  - She backed up her secrecy with litigation?  AtomicKitten   Feb-01-08 12:22 PM   #10 
  - She has experience negotiating - Deliberation and Compromise sometimes require no media exposure  agdlp   Feb-01-08 12:31 PM   #17 
  - If Hillary has done any good work -We must attack her - Where is the respect for a fellow Democrat ?  agdlp   Feb-01-08 12:38 PM   #18 
  - Where's the respect Clintons showed for all the years of work Kerry and Gonzalez did  blm   Feb-01-08 12:43 PM   #19 
  - Defending National Security ARE MORE IMPORTANT than transparancy !  agdlp   Feb-01-08 12:49 PM   #24 
     - Except the documents kept hidden were about CRIMINALITY - crimes against constitution.  blm   Feb-01-08 12:57 PM   #31 
     - There is NOTHING more important than transparency and accountability.  AtomicKitten   Feb-01-08 12:57 PM   #32 
        - And EXACTLY what Bush sycophants argue to defend THEIR criminality.  blm   Feb-01-08 01:04 PM   #39 
           - eerily similar .... :(  AtomicKitten   Feb-01-08 01:08 PM   #44 
  - HATE knows no bounds for so many.  rodeodance   Feb-01-08 12:53 PM   #27 
     - You are enabling secrecy by attacking the virtues of accountability and transparency.  AtomicKitten   Feb-01-08 01:00 PM   #35 
        - I was referring --the attach mode of people toward HIll even if good works--but you knew that didn't  rodeodance   Feb-01-08 01:02 PM   #37 
  - Tell it to Dick Cheney. Heathcare isn't about national security? I bet Hill agrees with you.  John Q. Citizen   Feb-01-08 01:23 PM   #53 
  - dang, She of had Dick cheneys lawyers!  rodeodance   Feb-01-08 04:46 PM   #63 
  - "no media exposure" = "working for transparency"???  MH1   Feb-01-08 05:15 PM   #66 
  - No she did not lose, according to the wiki  Jim4Wes   Feb-01-08 02:31 PM   #60 
  - are you too young to remember the Clinton Health Care plan ?  Bluerthanblue   Feb-01-08 12:19 PM   #7 
  - Clintons publicly support open government the way Bush publicly supports Clean Air  blm   Feb-01-08 12:21 PM   #8 
  - OH blm--you are repeating yourself --i see your silly post upstream  rodeodance   Feb-01-08 12:56 PM   #30 
  - Truth doesn't change and SHOULD be repeated when lies are repeated. Don't you think?  blm   Feb-01-08 12:58 PM   #34 
     - That was not my point.--  rodeodance   Feb-01-08 01:03 PM   #38 
  - Kick for the truth  Moochy   Feb-01-08 01:27 PM   #55 
  - She should fight for Econoimic Transparency  Armstead   Feb-01-08 12:23 PM   #12 
  - LOL  DJ13   Feb-01-08 12:27 PM   #14 
  - Strike "for" - ed.  Occam Bandage   Feb-01-08 12:45 PM   #22 
  - Right. And she and Bill won't release WH docs on her role in his term.  Laura PackYourBags   Feb-01-08 12:46 PM   #23 
  - Like it or not - Release of those documents are regulated by law  agdlp   Feb-01-08 12:52 PM   #26 
     - Everytime they put up a post--they are more Bush-like in nature than I had thought.  rodeodance   Feb-01-08 12:55 PM   #29 
        - Bush - secrecy and privilege. Clintons - secrecy and privilege.  blm   Feb-01-08 01:02 PM   #36 
           - this thread is not about secretcy in gov. Its about hate toward  rodeodance   Feb-01-08 01:04 PM   #40 
              - It's about hate FOR protection of secrecy and privilege. Anyone with an ounce  blm   Feb-01-08 01:13 PM   #48 
                 - Well, I believe in giving Hillary a chance--as the Pres, not as a Sen or First lady. Nough said.  rodeodance   Feb-01-08 01:36 PM   #57 
                    - It's absurd to think she'll open books closed by Bill because NOW Bill's protection  blm   Feb-01-08 04:01 PM   #61 
  - Barack passed the bieggest reforms in campaigning funding in congressional history.  cooolandrew   Feb-01-08 12:54 PM   #28 
  - bieggest- ok  rodeodance   Feb-01-08 12:58 PM   #33 
  - That post, right there, is the textbook example of why so many people hate Hillary and her  burythehatchet   Feb-01-08 02:16 PM   #59 
     - oh lighten up.  rodeodance   Feb-01-08 04:48 PM   #64 
  - He had lobbyists leading the SC campaign and took money from Yucca Nuclear Power Lobby  agdlp   Feb-01-08 01:11 PM   #47 
  - Happy to give it a 5th  robbedvoter   Feb-01-08 01:05 PM   #41 
  - Go ahead. But....do you really believe it?  blm   Feb-01-08 01:17 PM   #50 
  - I do. SCOTUS? MSM? Fraud? You Kerry folk have selective memory on stolen elections  robbedvoter   Feb-01-08 01:19 PM   #51 
     - Really? In 1994 you think Supreme Court kept BushInc out of jail or did Clinton  blm   Feb-01-08 01:34 PM   #56 
  - It doesn't matter what the Obama supporters say  UALRBSofL   Feb-01-08 01:21 PM   #52 
     - Baloney - Whitewater was a dog and pony show to get into Rose Law Firm and  blm   Feb-01-08 05:08 PM   #65 
  - Well, she's been talking about it, anyway  LittleClarkie   Feb-01-08 01:06 PM   #42 
  - Funny how the poster hasn't returned to this thread, huh.  MH1   Feb-02-08 12:03 PM   #70 
  - Fighting for it for that long... has equalled what in terms of results? (n/t)  harun   Feb-01-08 01:09 PM   #45 
  - Completely misleading. She's been fighting for Bush transparency, not the Clintons'  ProSense   Feb-01-08 01:23 PM   #54 
  - Clintons have fought Dems to protect Bushes' secrecy and privilege throughout the 90s.  blm   Feb-01-08 01:42 PM   #58 
  - Except when it came to her IWR vote. She couldn't even be bothered to read the NIE report  ErnestoG   Feb-01-08 04:03 PM   #62 
  - but nothing has happened despite the fighting for transparency!  bambino   Feb-01-08 09:40 PM   #68 
  - Bush1 should've been impeached post-presidency after BCCI report was released.  blm   Feb-01-08 09:44 PM   #69 
  - THEN WHY DON'T THEY REVEAL THE NAMES OF THE LIBRARY DONORS?  Stephanie   Feb-02-08 12:05 PM   #71 
 

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