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Thu Jan-31-08 02:16 PM
Response to Reply #98 |
| 116. she didn't reach out to anyone, Kennedy initiated the handshake. |
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If you had looked at any of the evidence, you would know this.
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| -I can't BELIEVE this-it looks like the "snub" is being pushed so hard it may have an effect! |
jenmito |
Jan-31-08 10:45 AM |
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I have no idea what actually happened. |
Blue_State_Elitist |
Jan-31-08 10:47 AM |
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MY problem is they keep showing that ONE picture when we KNOW they have other "exculpatory" pics. |
jenmito |
Jan-31-08 10:50 AM |
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They probably should show the other pictures |
Blue_State_Elitist |
Jan-31-08 10:53 AM |
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If they did, it would at LEAST allow people to decide for themselves. |
jenmito |
Jan-31-08 10:58 AM |
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Sure they "should" |
Tom Rinaldo |
Jan-31-08 11:01 AM |
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Well the woman senator has an utter look of disgust on her face |
Skwmom |
Jan-31-08 11:27 AM |
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Oh, so you've seen those pictures? |
NCevilDUer |
Jan-31-08 11:38 AM |
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Um, yes, I've seen them. They were posted here and I emailed them to MSNBC. |
jenmito |
Jan-31-08 11:39 AM |
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Actually, my response was to the OTHER poster - |
NCevilDUer |
Jan-31-08 11:52 AM |
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Oops. Sorry 'bout that! |
jenmito |
Jan-31-08 11:54 AM |
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They're not siding with Hillary; they're siding with conflict. |
beachmom |
Jan-31-08 11:18 AM |
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You got that right, beachmom. |
NCarolinawoman |
Jan-31-08 02:33 PM |
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Video on youtube |
GoldieAZ49 |
Jan-31-08 11:48 AM |
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So he didn't snub her. He didn't reject her outstretched hand. She lied. |
jenmito |
Jan-31-08 11:52 AM |
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It looks to me like she was greeting Ted Kennedy. |
Vektor |
Jan-31-08 01:19 PM |
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That's right. And on MSNBC, Contessa Brewer just said Hillary went to shake OBAMA'S hand and he |
jenmito |
Jan-31-08 02:24 PM |
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I just don't see it the way they are trying to paint it. |
Vektor |
Jan-31-08 03:05 PM |
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Good assessment. |
jenmito |
Jan-31-08 03:19 PM |
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Thanks! |
Vektor |
Jan-31-08 03:27 PM |
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Self Delete |
Vektor |
Jan-31-08 03:25 PM |
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Agree - there's a million possible explanations for what occurred. |
Vektor |
Jan-31-08 01:08 PM |
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That would be the more interesting version of the story |
rucky |
Jan-31-08 10:48 AM |
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But SHE really milked it and acted as if she WAS snubbed and I think it's hurting him. |
jenmito |
Jan-31-08 10:51 AM |
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of course she did! |
rucky |
Jan-31-08 10:54 AM |
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And the media bought it. |
jenmito |
Jan-31-08 11:00 AM |
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Media loves dish...better get used to it |
featherman |
Jan-31-08 10:50 AM |
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I warned you this would "matter" |
Tom Rinaldo |
Jan-31-08 10:50 AM |
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I read the title of your thread and yes, I DID know what you meant by "it." |
jenmito |
Jan-31-08 10:53 AM |
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Maybe some will start to wake up to the reality of this now? |
timeforarevolution |
Jan-31-08 10:57 AM |
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It didn't blow over because the blogs made it a big deal....... |
FrenchieCat |
Jan-31-08 11:09 AM |
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I am sorry to say |
Tom Rinaldo |
Jan-31-08 11:19 AM |
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Of course not. Not with the Clinton camp pushing it and the media only to happy |
Skwmom |
Jan-31-08 11:32 AM |
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If Obama can't handle this, how will he handle the Republican attack machine? |
Lirwin2 |
Jan-31-08 10:52 AM |
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It's not that he can't handle it. He responded but the media keeps showing that picture and |
jenmito |
Jan-31-08 10:54 AM |
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Exactly. He doesn't know how to handle this. Sometimes simply "responding" isn't enough |
Lirwin2 |
Jan-31-08 10:56 AM |
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What can he do other than respond? |
jenmito |
Jan-31-08 10:59 AM |
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Well, the obvious thing to do (apparently not so obvious to Obama) would be to |
Lirwin2 |
Jan-31-08 11:08 AM |
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If he wins, I'm going to snicker at his worshippers heads exploding when they |
mondo joe |
Jan-31-08 11:12 AM |
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We don't worship him. We support him and want him to win. |
jenmito |
Jan-31-08 11:32 AM |
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If you think the GOP will have a harder time taking the might 0 apart, you are |
mondo joe |
Jan-31-08 12:38 PM |
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No I'm not. I'd say I have common sense. |
jenmito |
Jan-31-08 02:25 PM |
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Pure naivete. |
mondo joe |
Jan-31-08 02:36 PM |
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Keep thinking that. |
jenmito |
Jan-31-08 02:41 PM |
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Obama snubbed Hillary. |
cat_girl25 |
Jan-31-08 10:53 AM |
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He did not. And Hillary lied about it. She was clearly extending her hand to KENNEDY. |
jenmito |
Jan-31-08 10:55 AM |
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Hillary was talking symbolically... |
1corona4u |
Jan-31-08 11:04 AM |
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Riiiight-that was her response to whether or not Obama snubbed her. |
jenmito |
Jan-31-08 11:06 AM |
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Hillary does not know Obama's intentions regarding the incident. |
DURHAM D |
Jan-31-08 11:10 AM |
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Hillary said she extended her hand to HIM...or implied it, implying he snubbed her. |
jenmito |
Jan-31-08 11:34 AM |
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I feel sorry for you and other Obama supporters who find it necessary |
DURHAM D |
Jan-31-08 11:42 AM |
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It's "making a pretzel" by pointing out that she obviously went to shake KENNEDY'S hand |
jenmito |
Jan-31-08 11:46 AM |
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Honey - give it up and move on. |
DURHAM D |
Jan-31-08 11:48 AM |
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Hell no. I won't let Hillary and her supporters use this to make her look like she was being |
jenmito |
Jan-31-08 11:56 AM |
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I think may of had more to do with her agreeing to the request for them to sit together |
wlucinda |
Jan-31-08 11:56 AM |
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I hadn't heard that |
leftynyc |
Jan-31-08 12:02 PM |
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I posted asking if anyone had confirmation but it sank like a stone |
wlucinda |
Jan-31-08 12:57 PM |
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Here is a blip about it a time.com and one of the du threads |
wlucinda |
Jan-31-08 01:16 PM |
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That's a very parsed statement |
leftynyc |
Jan-31-08 01:35 PM |
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Yep |
wlucinda |
Jan-31-08 02:16 PM |
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she didn't reach out to anyone, Kennedy initiated the handshake. |
JackORoses |
Jan-31-08 02:16 PM |
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It's ironic that the Obama cheerleaders are the ones that won't drop this |
cat_girl25 |
Jan-31-08 11:05 AM |
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It's the MEDIA that won't drop this! |
jenmito |
Jan-31-08 11:07 AM |
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"Who you going to believe ... me or your lying eyes?" |
dbaker41 |
Jan-31-08 11:21 AM |
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He DID deal with it. He said he did NOT snub her and was talking to someone else. |
jenmito |
Jan-31-08 11:36 AM |
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But one of his advisers came out the next day with a different story |
dbaker41 |
Jan-31-08 12:53 PM |
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No, he didn't. But Hillary is running with the "victim" status. |
writes3000 |
Jan-31-08 10:56 AM |
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Hillary is a lying opportunist. |
No Surrender |
Jan-31-08 11:00 AM |
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yep. Still trying to defend the indefensible... |
TankLV |
Jan-31-08 11:08 AM |
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It is a sign of fear. Really. |
writes3000 |
Jan-31-08 10:54 AM |
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But it's working. And they're showing it again right NOW with a "body language" expert. |
jenmito |
Jan-31-08 10:57 AM |
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I don't think it will stick. People can smell shit. |
writes3000 |
Jan-31-08 11:02 AM |
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I think it already stuck with some people. And they're still talking about it. |
jenmito |
Jan-31-08 11:05 AM |
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I don't agree. |
writes3000 |
Jan-31-08 11:07 AM |
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That's because the only people you're in contact with |
dbaker41 |
Jan-31-08 11:22 AM |
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You're absolutely wrong. |
writes3000 |
Jan-31-08 11:34 AM |
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Your bias is showing also. |
dbaker41 |
Jan-31-08 12:56 PM |
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And it will continue |
Irishonly |
Jan-31-08 11:14 AM |
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he would be an idiot to address it in the debate |
bidenista |
Jan-31-08 10:55 AM |
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Matthews seemed to think he'll be ASKED about it in which case he'll have to respond. |
jenmito |
Jan-31-08 11:03 AM |
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if he's asked about it |
bidenista |
Jan-31-08 11:06 AM |
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Sad but true. Thanks for that article. |
jenmito |
Jan-31-08 11:44 AM |
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That's what the Kerry campaign thought about the Swift Boaters. nt |
thecatburgler |
Jan-31-08 11:56 AM |
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Snub or not, it was a political blunder on Obama's part. A big one.(eom) |
oasis |
Jan-31-08 10:55 AM |
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Maybe. I am starting to wonder if we are any different than the Bushbots who |
pampango |
Jan-31-08 11:15 AM |
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I don't know who was"swayed" by the obvious snub, but I do know |
oasis |
Jan-31-08 11:35 AM |
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"Obvious snub"? Right. |
jenmito |
Jan-31-08 11:49 AM |
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Oh yes. snub. Do you think he'd try this type of stunt with Maxine Waters who |
oasis |
Jan-31-08 12:51 PM |
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Um, he DIDN'T "try" ANYTHING with Hillary and wouldn't reject Water's hand, either. |
jenmito |
Jan-31-08 02:28 PM |
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I'm surprised that Kennedy didn't tell him to shake her hand - he's been around... |
kerry-is-my-prez |
Jan-31-08 03:16 PM |
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The media just wants the story to stay alive. They like the emotions and personal |
wienerdoggie |
Jan-31-08 10:57 AM |
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There is an old saying..... |
murbley40 |
Jan-31-08 11:58 AM |
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So it's OK to twist it? |
jenmito |
Jan-31-08 12:00 PM |
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Well, I'm sure that this is one of the major "issues" that will come up at the debate... |
Kristi1696 |
Jan-31-08 10:59 AM |
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I have no doubt that there is FULL video of this exchange... |
Roxy66 |
Jan-31-08 11:01 AM |
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There is. See post #60. You're right. n/t |
jenmito |
Jan-31-08 11:59 AM |
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don't worry - Obama will VERY DELIBERATELY shake Clinton's hand at the debate |
FLDem5 |
Jan-31-08 11:04 AM |
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Let's hope he doesn't do it with a sneer |
Texas_Kat |
Jan-31-08 11:08 AM |
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that was rude.. |
FLDem5 |
Jan-31-08 11:23 AM |
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Apparently the numerous photos of Obama staring at HC with the ... |
Texas_Kat |
Jan-31-08 11:25 AM |
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If that is what theyconcentrate on AFTER A ONE ON ONE debate |
FLDem5 |
Jan-31-08 11:29 AM |
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Well, yeah, they ARE idiots. |
Texas_Kat |
Jan-31-08 11:54 AM |
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Exactly |
BeyondGeography |
Jan-31-08 11:21 AM |
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Welcome to our world |
Texas_Kat |
Jan-31-08 11:04 AM |
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what a bunch of fucking insane nonsense. |
Whisp |
Jan-31-08 11:07 AM |
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The TRUTH hurts! Sucks to be mean' obama, doesn't it!!! |
TankLV |
Jan-31-08 11:07 AM |
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Who cares, it's petty stuff! I think we've got bigger issues to worry about! |
demo dutch |
Jan-31-08 11:08 AM |
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The "snub" has become Matthews' viagra replacement. |
No Surrender |
Jan-31-08 11:15 AM |
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This is media BS, no one is talking about it on the ground |
BeyondGeography |
Jan-31-08 11:18 AM |
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Personally, I'm loving it!!!!! |
Beacool |
Jan-31-08 11:20 AM |
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Relax. People are much smarter than you give them credit for... |
Zueda |
Jan-31-08 11:28 AM |
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The problem is the low-information voter... |
iantepoot |
Jan-31-08 11:44 AM |
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It was childish and petty. |
Beausoir |
Jan-31-08 11:31 AM |
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No worries; it's hilarious! |
AtomicKitten |
Jan-31-08 11:39 AM |
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Damn, I missed the Dan Abrams piece. |
writes3000 |
Jan-31-08 11:44 AM |
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Funny thing |
AtomicKitten |
Jan-31-08 12:07 PM |
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Yeah, but Abrams believed it WAS a snub. He just made the "gag me" signal re: her |
jenmito |
Jan-31-08 12:29 PM |
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Funny that his guests disagreed with him! |
AtomicKitten |
Jan-31-08 12:35 PM |
#102 |
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True... |
jenmito |
Jan-31-08 03:15 PM |
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I'm fired up up and, in fact, ready to go! |
AtomicKitten |
Jan-31-08 03:17 PM |
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No one is paying attention to this shallow, hyped and manufactured b/s except the political "wonks". |
K Gardner |
Jan-31-08 11:46 AM |
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Video on youtube |
GoldieAZ49 |
Jan-31-08 11:47 AM |
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Best comment for that video "well thats pointless news, we already knew they dislike each other." |
landonb16 |
Jan-31-08 11:57 AM |
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Sorry but this incident is no ones fault but Obamas. |
DemEtienne |
Jan-31-08 11:53 AM |
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That's a LIE. You just said, despite what the picture AND video shows, that she continued AFTER |
jenmito |
Jan-31-08 12:33 PM |
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Correct! |
cat_girl25 |
Jan-31-08 01:00 PM |
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they should talk about it in the debate tonight |
Faye |
Jan-31-08 11:57 AM |
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Please shoot me in the face. |
Unsane |
Jan-31-08 11:57 AM |
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Why is it nobody feels sorry for the man & woman Senator Clinton practically climbed over trying to |
Debi |
Jan-31-08 12:01 PM |
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In all fairness, it was handled badly by Barack & his spokesperson. |
napi21 |
Jan-31-08 01:03 PM |
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I'm wondering how many people... |
stillcool47 |
Jan-31-08 01:25 PM |
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Kennedy should have known better. It was a mistake. |
kerry-is-my-prez |
Jan-31-08 02:18 PM |
#117 |
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He should've known better than to "intercept" the handshake "meant" for Obama? |
jenmito |
Jan-31-08 02:21 PM |
#118 |
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He should have told Obama to shake her hand then or later on. All eyes were on them. |
kerry-is-my-prez |
Jan-31-08 05:11 PM |
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It was a snub. Clearly Obama is angry and a bit aloof. |
REDFISHBLUEFISH |
Jan-31-08 02:23 PM |
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On the plus side people will see that he is not an ogre at tonight's debate |
Levgreee |
Jan-31-08 02:28 PM |
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True. |
jenmito |
Jan-31-08 02:47 PM |
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THIS IS A FUCKING JOKE |
Obama_for_our_future |
Jan-31-08 02:32 PM |
#124 |
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They fell for Hillary's "tearing up" as well as her claim she was "piled on" by the big bad boys |
jenmito |
Jan-31-08 02:43 PM |
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Kicking this! |
cat_girl25 |
Jan-31-08 02:36 PM |
#127 |
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Relax. |
JackRiddler |
Jan-31-08 02:39 PM |
#128 |
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That's not true. They showed the pic on The View and the audience gasped and the women on the show |
jenmito |
Jan-31-08 02:46 PM |
#131 |
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He turned away in a hissy fit. You would hear the B-word if Hillary ever pulled a stunt like that |
REDFISHBLUEFISH |
Jan-31-08 02:49 PM |
#133 |
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Was she reaching out to shake OBAMA'S hand or KENNEDY'S? |
jenmito |
Jan-31-08 02:51 PM |
#134 |
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This is a NON-ISSUE. Wake-up DU! -nt |
democrat2thecore |
Jan-31-08 05:14 PM |
#143 |
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GET A LIFE!!! |
backscatter712 |
Jan-31-08 05:23 PM |
#144 |
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I'D LOVE TO! |
jenmito |
Jan-31-08 06:18 PM |
#145 |
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Ain't that the truth. |
backscatter712 |
Jan-31-08 07:49 PM |
#146 |
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