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Thu Jan-31-08 11:56 AM
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| 88. I think may of had more to do with her agreeing to the request for them to sit together |
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I just posted to ask...but it was floating around that night that Hillary and Obama were asked to sit together by the Dem leadership at SOTU and that Hillary had agreed, but Obama didn't.
If true, that puts her comment in a different light.
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| -I can't BELIEVE this-it looks like the "snub" is being pushed so hard it may have an effect! |
jenmito |
Jan-31-08 10:45 AM |
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I have no idea what actually happened. |
Blue_State_Elitist |
Jan-31-08 10:47 AM |
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MY problem is they keep showing that ONE picture when we KNOW they have other "exculpatory" pics. |
jenmito |
Jan-31-08 10:50 AM |
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They probably should show the other pictures |
Blue_State_Elitist |
Jan-31-08 10:53 AM |
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If they did, it would at LEAST allow people to decide for themselves. |
jenmito |
Jan-31-08 10:58 AM |
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Sure they "should" |
Tom Rinaldo |
Jan-31-08 11:01 AM |
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Well the woman senator has an utter look of disgust on her face |
Skwmom |
Jan-31-08 11:27 AM |
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Oh, so you've seen those pictures? |
NCevilDUer |
Jan-31-08 11:38 AM |
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Um, yes, I've seen them. They were posted here and I emailed them to MSNBC. |
jenmito |
Jan-31-08 11:39 AM |
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Actually, my response was to the OTHER poster - |
NCevilDUer |
Jan-31-08 11:52 AM |
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Oops. Sorry 'bout that! |
jenmito |
Jan-31-08 11:54 AM |
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They're not siding with Hillary; they're siding with conflict. |
beachmom |
Jan-31-08 11:18 AM |
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You got that right, beachmom. |
NCarolinawoman |
Jan-31-08 02:33 PM |
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Video on youtube |
GoldieAZ49 |
Jan-31-08 11:48 AM |
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So he didn't snub her. He didn't reject her outstretched hand. She lied. |
jenmito |
Jan-31-08 11:52 AM |
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It looks to me like she was greeting Ted Kennedy. |
Vektor |
Jan-31-08 01:19 PM |
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That's right. And on MSNBC, Contessa Brewer just said Hillary went to shake OBAMA'S hand and he |
jenmito |
Jan-31-08 02:24 PM |
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I just don't see it the way they are trying to paint it. |
Vektor |
Jan-31-08 03:05 PM |
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Good assessment. |
jenmito |
Jan-31-08 03:19 PM |
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Thanks! |
Vektor |
Jan-31-08 03:27 PM |
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Self Delete |
Vektor |
Jan-31-08 03:25 PM |
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Agree - there's a million possible explanations for what occurred. |
Vektor |
Jan-31-08 01:08 PM |
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That would be the more interesting version of the story |
rucky |
Jan-31-08 10:48 AM |
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But SHE really milked it and acted as if she WAS snubbed and I think it's hurting him. |
jenmito |
Jan-31-08 10:51 AM |
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of course she did! |
rucky |
Jan-31-08 10:54 AM |
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And the media bought it. |
jenmito |
Jan-31-08 11:00 AM |
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Media loves dish...better get used to it |
featherman |
Jan-31-08 10:50 AM |
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I warned you this would "matter" |
Tom Rinaldo |
Jan-31-08 10:50 AM |
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I read the title of your thread and yes, I DID know what you meant by "it." |
jenmito |
Jan-31-08 10:53 AM |
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Maybe some will start to wake up to the reality of this now? |
timeforarevolution |
Jan-31-08 10:57 AM |
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It didn't blow over because the blogs made it a big deal....... |
FrenchieCat |
Jan-31-08 11:09 AM |
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I am sorry to say |
Tom Rinaldo |
Jan-31-08 11:19 AM |
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Of course not. Not with the Clinton camp pushing it and the media only to happy |
Skwmom |
Jan-31-08 11:32 AM |
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If Obama can't handle this, how will he handle the Republican attack machine? |
Lirwin2 |
Jan-31-08 10:52 AM |
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It's not that he can't handle it. He responded but the media keeps showing that picture and |
jenmito |
Jan-31-08 10:54 AM |
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Exactly. He doesn't know how to handle this. Sometimes simply "responding" isn't enough |
Lirwin2 |
Jan-31-08 10:56 AM |
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What can he do other than respond? |
jenmito |
Jan-31-08 10:59 AM |
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Well, the obvious thing to do (apparently not so obvious to Obama) would be to |
Lirwin2 |
Jan-31-08 11:08 AM |
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If he wins, I'm going to snicker at his worshippers heads exploding when they |
mondo joe |
Jan-31-08 11:12 AM |
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We don't worship him. We support him and want him to win. |
jenmito |
Jan-31-08 11:32 AM |
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If you think the GOP will have a harder time taking the might 0 apart, you are |
mondo joe |
Jan-31-08 12:38 PM |
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No I'm not. I'd say I have common sense. |
jenmito |
Jan-31-08 02:25 PM |
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Pure naivete. |
mondo joe |
Jan-31-08 02:36 PM |
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Keep thinking that. |
jenmito |
Jan-31-08 02:41 PM |
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Obama snubbed Hillary. |
cat_girl25 |
Jan-31-08 10:53 AM |
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He did not. And Hillary lied about it. She was clearly extending her hand to KENNEDY. |
jenmito |
Jan-31-08 10:55 AM |
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Hillary was talking symbolically... |
1corona4u |
Jan-31-08 11:04 AM |
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Riiiight-that was her response to whether or not Obama snubbed her. |
jenmito |
Jan-31-08 11:06 AM |
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Hillary does not know Obama's intentions regarding the incident. |
DURHAM D |
Jan-31-08 11:10 AM |
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Hillary said she extended her hand to HIM...or implied it, implying he snubbed her. |
jenmito |
Jan-31-08 11:34 AM |
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I feel sorry for you and other Obama supporters who find it necessary |
DURHAM D |
Jan-31-08 11:42 AM |
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It's "making a pretzel" by pointing out that she obviously went to shake KENNEDY'S hand |
jenmito |
Jan-31-08 11:46 AM |
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Honey - give it up and move on. |
DURHAM D |
Jan-31-08 11:48 AM |
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Hell no. I won't let Hillary and her supporters use this to make her look like she was being |
jenmito |
Jan-31-08 11:56 AM |
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I think may of had more to do with her agreeing to the request for them to sit together |
wlucinda |
Jan-31-08 11:56 AM |
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I hadn't heard that |
leftynyc |
Jan-31-08 12:02 PM |
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I posted asking if anyone had confirmation but it sank like a stone |
wlucinda |
Jan-31-08 12:57 PM |
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Here is a blip about it a time.com and one of the du threads |
wlucinda |
Jan-31-08 01:16 PM |
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That's a very parsed statement |
leftynyc |
Jan-31-08 01:35 PM |
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Yep |
wlucinda |
Jan-31-08 02:16 PM |
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she didn't reach out to anyone, Kennedy initiated the handshake. |
JackORoses |
Jan-31-08 02:16 PM |
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It's ironic that the Obama cheerleaders are the ones that won't drop this |
cat_girl25 |
Jan-31-08 11:05 AM |
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It's the MEDIA that won't drop this! |
jenmito |
Jan-31-08 11:07 AM |
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"Who you going to believe ... me or your lying eyes?" |
dbaker41 |
Jan-31-08 11:21 AM |
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He DID deal with it. He said he did NOT snub her and was talking to someone else. |
jenmito |
Jan-31-08 11:36 AM |
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But one of his advisers came out the next day with a different story |
dbaker41 |
Jan-31-08 12:53 PM |
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No, he didn't. But Hillary is running with the "victim" status. |
writes3000 |
Jan-31-08 10:56 AM |
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Hillary is a lying opportunist. |
No Surrender |
Jan-31-08 11:00 AM |
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yep. Still trying to defend the indefensible... |
TankLV |
Jan-31-08 11:08 AM |
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It is a sign of fear. Really. |
writes3000 |
Jan-31-08 10:54 AM |
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But it's working. And they're showing it again right NOW with a "body language" expert. |
jenmito |
Jan-31-08 10:57 AM |
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I don't think it will stick. People can smell shit. |
writes3000 |
Jan-31-08 11:02 AM |
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I think it already stuck with some people. And they're still talking about it. |
jenmito |
Jan-31-08 11:05 AM |
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I don't agree. |
writes3000 |
Jan-31-08 11:07 AM |
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That's because the only people you're in contact with |
dbaker41 |
Jan-31-08 11:22 AM |
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You're absolutely wrong. |
writes3000 |
Jan-31-08 11:34 AM |
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Your bias is showing also. |
dbaker41 |
Jan-31-08 12:56 PM |
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And it will continue |
Irishonly |
Jan-31-08 11:14 AM |
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he would be an idiot to address it in the debate |
bidenista |
Jan-31-08 10:55 AM |
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Matthews seemed to think he'll be ASKED about it in which case he'll have to respond. |
jenmito |
Jan-31-08 11:03 AM |
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if he's asked about it |
bidenista |
Jan-31-08 11:06 AM |
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Sad but true. Thanks for that article. |
jenmito |
Jan-31-08 11:44 AM |
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That's what the Kerry campaign thought about the Swift Boaters. nt |
thecatburgler |
Jan-31-08 11:56 AM |
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Snub or not, it was a political blunder on Obama's part. A big one.(eom) |
oasis |
Jan-31-08 10:55 AM |
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Maybe. I am starting to wonder if we are any different than the Bushbots who |
pampango |
Jan-31-08 11:15 AM |
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I don't know who was"swayed" by the obvious snub, but I do know |
oasis |
Jan-31-08 11:35 AM |
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"Obvious snub"? Right. |
jenmito |
Jan-31-08 11:49 AM |
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Oh yes. snub. Do you think he'd try this type of stunt with Maxine Waters who |
oasis |
Jan-31-08 12:51 PM |
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Um, he DIDN'T "try" ANYTHING with Hillary and wouldn't reject Water's hand, either. |
jenmito |
Jan-31-08 02:28 PM |
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I'm surprised that Kennedy didn't tell him to shake her hand - he's been around... |
kerry-is-my-prez |
Jan-31-08 03:16 PM |
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The media just wants the story to stay alive. They like the emotions and personal |
wienerdoggie |
Jan-31-08 10:57 AM |
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There is an old saying..... |
murbley40 |
Jan-31-08 11:58 AM |
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So it's OK to twist it? |
jenmito |
Jan-31-08 12:00 PM |
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Well, I'm sure that this is one of the major "issues" that will come up at the debate... |
Kristi1696 |
Jan-31-08 10:59 AM |
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I have no doubt that there is FULL video of this exchange... |
Roxy66 |
Jan-31-08 11:01 AM |
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There is. See post #60. You're right. n/t |
jenmito |
Jan-31-08 11:59 AM |
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don't worry - Obama will VERY DELIBERATELY shake Clinton's hand at the debate |
FLDem5 |
Jan-31-08 11:04 AM |
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Let's hope he doesn't do it with a sneer |
Texas_Kat |
Jan-31-08 11:08 AM |
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that was rude.. |
FLDem5 |
Jan-31-08 11:23 AM |
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Apparently the numerous photos of Obama staring at HC with the ... |
Texas_Kat |
Jan-31-08 11:25 AM |
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If that is what theyconcentrate on AFTER A ONE ON ONE debate |
FLDem5 |
Jan-31-08 11:29 AM |
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Well, yeah, they ARE idiots. |
Texas_Kat |
Jan-31-08 11:54 AM |
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Exactly |
BeyondGeography |
Jan-31-08 11:21 AM |
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Welcome to our world |
Texas_Kat |
Jan-31-08 11:04 AM |
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what a bunch of fucking insane nonsense. |
Whisp |
Jan-31-08 11:07 AM |
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The TRUTH hurts! Sucks to be mean' obama, doesn't it!!! |
TankLV |
Jan-31-08 11:07 AM |
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Who cares, it's petty stuff! I think we've got bigger issues to worry about! |
demo dutch |
Jan-31-08 11:08 AM |
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The "snub" has become Matthews' viagra replacement. |
No Surrender |
Jan-31-08 11:15 AM |
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This is media BS, no one is talking about it on the ground |
BeyondGeography |
Jan-31-08 11:18 AM |
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Personally, I'm loving it!!!!! |
Beacool |
Jan-31-08 11:20 AM |
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Relax. People are much smarter than you give them credit for... |
Zueda |
Jan-31-08 11:28 AM |
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The problem is the low-information voter... |
iantepoot |
Jan-31-08 11:44 AM |
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It was childish and petty. |
Beausoir |
Jan-31-08 11:31 AM |
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No worries; it's hilarious! |
AtomicKitten |
Jan-31-08 11:39 AM |
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Damn, I missed the Dan Abrams piece. |
writes3000 |
Jan-31-08 11:44 AM |
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Funny thing |
AtomicKitten |
Jan-31-08 12:07 PM |
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Yeah, but Abrams believed it WAS a snub. He just made the "gag me" signal re: her |
jenmito |
Jan-31-08 12:29 PM |
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Funny that his guests disagreed with him! |
AtomicKitten |
Jan-31-08 12:35 PM |
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True... |
jenmito |
Jan-31-08 03:15 PM |
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I'm fired up up and, in fact, ready to go! |
AtomicKitten |
Jan-31-08 03:17 PM |
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No one is paying attention to this shallow, hyped and manufactured b/s except the political "wonks". |
K Gardner |
Jan-31-08 11:46 AM |
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Video on youtube |
GoldieAZ49 |
Jan-31-08 11:47 AM |
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Best comment for that video "well thats pointless news, we already knew they dislike each other." |
landonb16 |
Jan-31-08 11:57 AM |
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Sorry but this incident is no ones fault but Obamas. |
DemEtienne |
Jan-31-08 11:53 AM |
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That's a LIE. You just said, despite what the picture AND video shows, that she continued AFTER |
jenmito |
Jan-31-08 12:33 PM |
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Correct! |
cat_girl25 |
Jan-31-08 01:00 PM |
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they should talk about it in the debate tonight |
Faye |
Jan-31-08 11:57 AM |
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Please shoot me in the face. |
Unsane |
Jan-31-08 11:57 AM |
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Why is it nobody feels sorry for the man & woman Senator Clinton practically climbed over trying to |
Debi |
Jan-31-08 12:01 PM |
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In all fairness, it was handled badly by Barack & his spokesperson. |
napi21 |
Jan-31-08 01:03 PM |
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I'm wondering how many people... |
stillcool47 |
Jan-31-08 01:25 PM |
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Kennedy should have known better. It was a mistake. |
kerry-is-my-prez |
Jan-31-08 02:18 PM |
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He should've known better than to "intercept" the handshake "meant" for Obama? |
jenmito |
Jan-31-08 02:21 PM |
#118 |
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He should have told Obama to shake her hand then or later on. All eyes were on them. |
kerry-is-my-prez |
Jan-31-08 05:11 PM |
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It was a snub. Clearly Obama is angry and a bit aloof. |
REDFISHBLUEFISH |
Jan-31-08 02:23 PM |
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On the plus side people will see that he is not an ogre at tonight's debate |
Levgreee |
Jan-31-08 02:28 PM |
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True. |
jenmito |
Jan-31-08 02:47 PM |
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THIS IS A FUCKING JOKE |
Obama_for_our_future |
Jan-31-08 02:32 PM |
#124 |
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They fell for Hillary's "tearing up" as well as her claim she was "piled on" by the big bad boys |
jenmito |
Jan-31-08 02:43 PM |
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Kicking this! |
cat_girl25 |
Jan-31-08 02:36 PM |
#127 |
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Relax. |
JackRiddler |
Jan-31-08 02:39 PM |
#128 |
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That's not true. They showed the pic on The View and the audience gasped and the women on the show |
jenmito |
Jan-31-08 02:46 PM |
#131 |
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He turned away in a hissy fit. You would hear the B-word if Hillary ever pulled a stunt like that |
REDFISHBLUEFISH |
Jan-31-08 02:49 PM |
#133 |
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Was she reaching out to shake OBAMA'S hand or KENNEDY'S? |
jenmito |
Jan-31-08 02:51 PM |
#134 |
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This is a NON-ISSUE. Wake-up DU! -nt |
democrat2thecore |
Jan-31-08 05:14 PM |
#143 |
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GET A LIFE!!! |
backscatter712 |
Jan-31-08 05:23 PM |
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I'D LOVE TO! |
jenmito |
Jan-31-08 06:18 PM |
#145 |
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Ain't that the truth. |
backscatter712 |
Jan-31-08 07:49 PM |
#146 |
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