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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-31-08 10:54 AM
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It's not that he can't handle it. He responded but the media keeps showing that picture and
saying they believe her anyway.
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  -I can't BELIEVE this-it looks like the "snub" is being pushed so hard it may have an effect! jenmito  Jan-31-08 10:45 AM   #0 
  - I have no idea what actually happened.  Blue_State_Elitist   Jan-31-08 10:47 AM   #1 
  - MY problem is they keep showing that ONE picture when we KNOW they have other "exculpatory" pics.  jenmito   Jan-31-08 10:50 AM   #3 
  - They probably should show the other pictures  Blue_State_Elitist   Jan-31-08 10:53 AM   #10 
  - If they did, it would at LEAST allow people to decide for themselves.  jenmito   Jan-31-08 10:58 AM   #21 
  - Sure they "should"  Tom Rinaldo   Jan-31-08 11:01 AM   #27 
     - Well the woman senator has an utter look of disgust on her face  Skwmom   Jan-31-08 11:27 AM   #60 
     - Oh, so you've seen those pictures?  NCevilDUer   Jan-31-08 11:38 AM   #70 
        - Um, yes, I've seen them. They were posted here and I emailed them to MSNBC.  jenmito   Jan-31-08 11:39 AM   #71 
           - Actually, my response was to the OTHER poster -  NCevilDUer   Jan-31-08 11:52 AM   #83 
              - Oops. Sorry 'bout that!  jenmito   Jan-31-08 11:54 AM   #86 
  - They're not siding with Hillary; they're siding with conflict.  beachmom   Jan-31-08 11:18 AM   #52 
  - You got that right, beachmom.  NCarolinawoman   Jan-31-08 02:33 PM   #125 
  - Video on youtube  GoldieAZ49   Jan-31-08 11:48 AM   #80 
     - So he didn't snub her. He didn't reject her outstretched hand. She lied.  jenmito   Jan-31-08 11:52 AM   #84 
        - It looks to me like she was greeting Ted Kennedy.  Vektor   Jan-31-08 01:19 PM   #112 
           - That's right. And on MSNBC, Contessa Brewer just said Hillary went to shake OBAMA'S hand and he  jenmito   Jan-31-08 02:24 PM   #120 
              - I just don't see it the way they are trying to paint it.  Vektor   Jan-31-08 03:05 PM   #135 
                 - Good assessment.  jenmito   Jan-31-08 03:19 PM   #139 
                 - Thanks!  Vektor   Jan-31-08 03:27 PM   #141 
                 - Self Delete  Vektor   Jan-31-08 03:25 PM   #140 
  - Agree - there's a million possible explanations for what occurred.  Vektor   Jan-31-08 01:08 PM   #110 
  - That would be the more interesting version of the story  rucky   Jan-31-08 10:48 AM   #2 
  - But SHE really milked it and acted as if she WAS snubbed and I think it's hurting him.  jenmito   Jan-31-08 10:51 AM   #6 
     - of course she did!  rucky   Jan-31-08 10:54 AM   #12 
        - And the media bought it.  jenmito   Jan-31-08 11:00 AM   #25 
  - Media loves dish...better get used to it  featherman   Jan-31-08 10:50 AM   #4 
  - I warned you this would "matter"  Tom Rinaldo   Jan-31-08 10:50 AM   #5 
  - I read the title of your thread and yes, I DID know what you meant by "it."  jenmito   Jan-31-08 10:53 AM   #9 
  - Maybe some will start to wake up to the reality of this now?  timeforarevolution   Jan-31-08 10:57 AM   #19 
  - It didn't blow over because the blogs made it a big deal.......  FrenchieCat   Jan-31-08 11:09 AM   #45 
  - I am sorry to say  Tom Rinaldo   Jan-31-08 11:19 AM   #53 
  - Of course not. Not with the Clinton camp pushing it and the media only to happy  Skwmom   Jan-31-08 11:32 AM   #65 
  - If Obama can't handle this, how will he handle the Republican attack machine?  Lirwin2   Jan-31-08 10:52 AM   #7 
  - It's not that he can't handle it. He responded but the media keeps showing that picture and  jenmito   Jan-31-08 10:54 AM   # 
  - Exactly. He doesn't know how to handle this. Sometimes simply "responding" isn't enough  Lirwin2   Jan-31-08 10:56 AM   #17 
     - What can he do other than respond?  jenmito   Jan-31-08 10:59 AM   #22 
        - Well, the obvious thing to do (apparently not so obvious to Obama) would be to  Lirwin2   Jan-31-08 11:08 AM   #41 
  - If he wins, I'm going to snicker at his worshippers heads exploding when they  mondo joe   Jan-31-08 11:12 AM   #47 
     - We don't worship him. We support him and want him to win.  jenmito   Jan-31-08 11:32 AM   #64 
        - If you think the GOP will have a harder time taking the might 0 apart, you are  mondo joe   Jan-31-08 12:38 PM   #103 
           - No I'm not. I'd say I have common sense.  jenmito   Jan-31-08 02:25 PM   #121 
              - Pure naivete.  mondo joe   Jan-31-08 02:36 PM   #126 
                 - Keep thinking that.  jenmito   Jan-31-08 02:41 PM   #129 
  - Obama snubbed Hillary.  cat_girl25   Jan-31-08 10:53 AM   #8 
  - He did not. And Hillary lied about it. She was clearly extending her hand to KENNEDY.  jenmito   Jan-31-08 10:55 AM   #15 
  - Hillary was talking symbolically...  1corona4u   Jan-31-08 11:04 AM   #32 
  - Riiiight-that was her response to whether or not Obama snubbed her.  jenmito   Jan-31-08 11:06 AM   #35 
  - Hillary does not know Obama's intentions regarding the incident.  DURHAM D   Jan-31-08 11:10 AM   #46 
     - Hillary said she extended her hand to HIM...or implied it, implying he snubbed her.  jenmito   Jan-31-08 11:34 AM   #67 
        - I feel sorry for you and other Obama supporters who find it necessary  DURHAM D   Jan-31-08 11:42 AM   #73 
           - It's "making a pretzel" by pointing out that she obviously went to shake KENNEDY'S hand  jenmito   Jan-31-08 11:46 AM   #78 
              - Honey - give it up and move on.  DURHAM D   Jan-31-08 11:48 AM   #81 
                 - Hell no. I won't let Hillary and her supporters use this to make her look like she was being  jenmito   Jan-31-08 11:56 AM   #89 
  - I think may of had more to do with her agreeing to the request for them to sit together  wlucinda   Jan-31-08 11:56 AM   #88 
     - I hadn't heard that  leftynyc   Jan-31-08 12:02 PM   #98 
        - I posted asking if anyone had confirmation but it sank like a stone  wlucinda   Jan-31-08 12:57 PM   #107 
        - Here is a blip about it a time.com and one of the du threads  wlucinda   Jan-31-08 01:16 PM   #111 
        - That's a very parsed statement  leftynyc   Jan-31-08 01:35 PM   #114 
           - Yep  wlucinda   Jan-31-08 02:16 PM   #115 
        - she didn't reach out to anyone, Kennedy initiated the handshake.  JackORoses   Jan-31-08 02:16 PM   #116 
  - It's ironic that the Obama cheerleaders are the ones that won't drop this  cat_girl25   Jan-31-08 11:05 AM   #33 
  - It's the MEDIA that won't drop this!  jenmito   Jan-31-08 11:07 AM   #39 
  - "Who you going to believe ... me or your lying eyes?"  dbaker41   Jan-31-08 11:21 AM   #55 
     - He DID deal with it. He said he did NOT snub her and was talking to someone else.  jenmito   Jan-31-08 11:36 AM   #69 
        - But one of his advisers came out the next day with a different story  dbaker41   Jan-31-08 12:53 PM   #105 
  - No, he didn't. But Hillary is running with the "victim" status.  writes3000   Jan-31-08 10:56 AM   #16 
  - Hillary is a lying opportunist.  No Surrender   Jan-31-08 11:00 AM   #24 
  - yep. Still trying to defend the indefensible...  TankLV   Jan-31-08 11:08 AM   #43 
  - It is a sign of fear. Really.  writes3000   Jan-31-08 10:54 AM   #11 
  - But it's working. And they're showing it again right NOW with a "body language" expert.  jenmito   Jan-31-08 10:57 AM   #20 
     - I don't think it will stick. People can smell shit.  writes3000   Jan-31-08 11:02 AM   #28 
     - I think it already stuck with some people. And they're still talking about it.  jenmito   Jan-31-08 11:05 AM   #34 
        - I don't agree.  writes3000   Jan-31-08 11:07 AM   #38 
           - That's because the only people you're in contact with  dbaker41   Jan-31-08 11:22 AM   #57 
              - You're absolutely wrong.  writes3000   Jan-31-08 11:34 AM   #66 
                 - Your bias is showing also.  dbaker41   Jan-31-08 12:56 PM   #106 
     - And it will continue  Irishonly   Jan-31-08 11:14 AM   #48 
  - he would be an idiot to address it in the debate  bidenista   Jan-31-08 10:55 AM   #13 
  - Matthews seemed to think he'll be ASKED about it in which case he'll have to respond.  jenmito   Jan-31-08 11:03 AM   #29 
  - if he's asked about it  bidenista   Jan-31-08 11:06 AM   #36 
     - Sad but true. Thanks for that article.  jenmito   Jan-31-08 11:44 AM   #75 
  - That's what the Kerry campaign thought about the Swift Boaters. nt  thecatburgler   Jan-31-08 11:56 AM   #90 
  - Snub or not, it was a political blunder on Obama's part. A big one.(eom)  oasis   Jan-31-08 10:55 AM   #14 
  - Maybe. I am starting to wonder if we are any different than the Bushbots who  pampango   Jan-31-08 11:15 AM   #49 
  - I don't know who was"swayed" by the obvious snub, but I do know  oasis   Jan-31-08 11:35 AM   #68 
     - "Obvious snub"? Right.  jenmito   Jan-31-08 11:49 AM   #82 
        - Oh yes. snub. Do you think he'd try this type of stunt with Maxine Waters who  oasis   Jan-31-08 12:51 PM   #104 
           - Um, he DIDN'T "try" ANYTHING with Hillary and wouldn't reject Water's hand, either.  jenmito   Jan-31-08 02:28 PM   #122 
  - I'm surprised that Kennedy didn't tell him to shake her hand - he's been around...  kerry-is-my-prez   Jan-31-08 03:16 PM   #137 
  - The media just wants the story to stay alive. They like the emotions and personal  wienerdoggie   Jan-31-08 10:57 AM   #18 
  - There is an old saying.....  murbley40   Jan-31-08 11:58 AM   #94 
     - So it's OK to twist it?  jenmito   Jan-31-08 12:00 PM   #96 
  - Well, I'm sure that this is one of the major "issues" that will come up at the debate...  Kristi1696   Jan-31-08 10:59 AM   #23 
  - I have no doubt that there is FULL video of this exchange...  Roxy66   Jan-31-08 11:01 AM   #26 
  - There is. See post #60. You're right. n/t  jenmito   Jan-31-08 11:59 AM   #95 
  - don't worry - Obama will VERY DELIBERATELY shake Clinton's hand at the debate  FLDem5   Jan-31-08 11:04 AM   #30 
  - Let's hope he doesn't do it with a sneer  Texas_Kat   Jan-31-08 11:08 AM   #44 
  - that was rude..  FLDem5   Jan-31-08 11:23 AM   #58 
     - Apparently the numerous photos of Obama staring at HC with the ...  Texas_Kat   Jan-31-08 11:25 AM   #59 
        - If that is what theyconcentrate on AFTER A ONE ON ONE debate  FLDem5   Jan-31-08 11:29 AM   #62 
           - Well, yeah, they ARE idiots.  Texas_Kat   Jan-31-08 11:54 AM   #87 
  - Exactly  BeyondGeography   Jan-31-08 11:21 AM   #56 
  - Welcome to our world  Texas_Kat   Jan-31-08 11:04 AM   #31 
  - what a bunch of fucking insane nonsense.  Whisp   Jan-31-08 11:07 AM   #37 
  - The TRUTH hurts! Sucks to be mean' obama, doesn't it!!!  TankLV   Jan-31-08 11:07 AM   #40 
  - Who cares, it's petty stuff! I think we've got bigger issues to worry about!  demo dutch   Jan-31-08 11:08 AM   #42 
  - The "snub" has become Matthews' viagra replacement.  No Surrender   Jan-31-08 11:15 AM   #50 
  - This is media BS, no one is talking about it on the ground  BeyondGeography   Jan-31-08 11:18 AM   #51 
  - Personally, I'm loving it!!!!!  Beacool   Jan-31-08 11:20 AM   #54 
  - Relax. People are much smarter than you give them credit for...  Zueda   Jan-31-08 11:28 AM   #61 
  - The problem is the low-information voter...  iantepoot   Jan-31-08 11:44 AM   #76 
  - It was childish and petty.  Beausoir   Jan-31-08 11:31 AM   #63 
  - No worries; it's hilarious!  AtomicKitten   Jan-31-08 11:39 AM   #72 
  - Damn, I missed the Dan Abrams piece.  writes3000   Jan-31-08 11:44 AM   #74 
  - Funny thing  AtomicKitten   Jan-31-08 12:07 PM   #99 
  - Yeah, but Abrams believed it WAS a snub. He just made the "gag me" signal re: her  jenmito   Jan-31-08 12:29 PM   #100 
     - Funny that his guests disagreed with him!  AtomicKitten   Jan-31-08 12:35 PM   #102 
        - True...  jenmito   Jan-31-08 03:15 PM   #136 
           - I'm fired up up and, in fact, ready to go!  AtomicKitten   Jan-31-08 03:17 PM   #138 
  - No one is paying attention to this shallow, hyped and manufactured b/s except the political "wonks".  K Gardner   Jan-31-08 11:46 AM   #77 
  - Video on youtube  GoldieAZ49   Jan-31-08 11:47 AM   #79 
  - Best comment for that video "well thats pointless news, we already knew they dislike each other."  landonb16   Jan-31-08 11:57 AM   #92 
  - Sorry but this incident is no ones fault but Obamas.  DemEtienne   Jan-31-08 11:53 AM   #85 
  - That's a LIE. You just said, despite what the picture AND video shows, that she continued AFTER  jenmito   Jan-31-08 12:33 PM   #101 
  - Correct!  cat_girl25   Jan-31-08 01:00 PM   #108 
  - they should talk about it in the debate tonight  Faye   Jan-31-08 11:57 AM   #91 
  - Please shoot me in the face.  Unsane   Jan-31-08 11:57 AM   #93 
  - Why is it nobody feels sorry for the man & woman Senator Clinton practically climbed over trying to  Debi   Jan-31-08 12:01 PM   #97 
  - In all fairness, it was handled badly by Barack & his spokesperson.  napi21   Jan-31-08 01:03 PM   #109 
  - I'm wondering how many people...  stillcool47   Jan-31-08 01:25 PM   #113 
  - Kennedy should have known better. It was a mistake.  kerry-is-my-prez   Jan-31-08 02:18 PM   #117 
  - He should've known better than to "intercept" the handshake "meant" for Obama?  jenmito   Jan-31-08 02:21 PM   #118 
     - He should have told Obama to shake her hand then or later on. All eyes were on them.  kerry-is-my-prez   Jan-31-08 05:11 PM   #142 
  - It was a snub. Clearly Obama is angry and a bit aloof.  REDFISHBLUEFISH   Jan-31-08 02:23 PM   #119 
  - On the plus side people will see that he is not an ogre at tonight's debate  Levgreee   Jan-31-08 02:28 PM   #123 
  - True.  jenmito   Jan-31-08 02:47 PM   #132 
  - THIS IS A FUCKING JOKE  Obama_for_our_future   Jan-31-08 02:32 PM   #124 
  - They fell for Hillary's "tearing up" as well as her claim she was "piled on" by the big bad boys  jenmito   Jan-31-08 02:43 PM   #130 
  - Kicking this!  cat_girl25   Jan-31-08 02:36 PM   #127 
  - Relax.  JackRiddler   Jan-31-08 02:39 PM   #128 
  - That's not true. They showed the pic on The View and the audience gasped and the women on the show  jenmito   Jan-31-08 02:46 PM   #131 
     - He turned away in a hissy fit. You would hear the B-word if Hillary ever pulled a stunt like that  REDFISHBLUEFISH   Jan-31-08 02:49 PM   #133 
        - Was she reaching out to shake OBAMA'S hand or KENNEDY'S?  jenmito   Jan-31-08 02:51 PM   #134 
  - This is a NON-ISSUE. Wake-up DU! -nt  democrat2thecore   Jan-31-08 05:14 PM   #143 
  - GET A LIFE!!!  backscatter712   Jan-31-08 05:23 PM   #144 
     - I'D LOVE TO!  jenmito   Jan-31-08 06:18 PM   #145 
        - Ain't that the truth.  backscatter712   Jan-31-08 07:49 PM   #146 
 

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