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demo dutch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 09:15 AM
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85. heh listen people are also posting stuff like this on another thread and I quote:
Edited on Wed Jan-30-08 09:15 AM by demo dutch
"The senile and nearly dead will forget there was a primary tomorrow!!
And that just about 70% covers the FL Democratic voters and all of Billary's support.
Interesting time to live. May we be remembered well "
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  -Hillary won big in MI and FL largely because of name recognition.... Flabbergasted  Jan-29-08 08:16 PM   #0 
  - Hillary ran against "Uncommited" in MI  Kittycat   Jan-29-08 08:17 PM   #1 
  - What you fail to mention is that everyone knew Uncommitted meant Obama or Edwards  MetricSystem   Jan-29-08 08:20 PM   #13 
     - I'm sure many of their voters, voted for her out of no other option.  Kittycat   Jan-29-08 08:28 PM   #33 
     - doesn't matter  johnnydrama   Jan-29-08 08:35 PM   #41 
     - No, they did not.  lwfern   Jan-29-08 08:37 PM   #45 
        - If I remember correctly, the exit polls indicated that those who voted uncommitted, did so knowing  MetricSystem   Jan-29-08 09:15 PM   #75 
           - An exit poll of those who went to the polls  lwfern   Jan-29-08 09:42 PM   #84 
  - Hillary "Won" Michigan Because She was Uncontested  Demeter   Jan-29-08 08:18 PM   #2 
  - She was uncontested?  William769   Jan-29-08 08:18 PM   # 
     - They Were Less Than Useless  Demeter   Jan-29-08 08:25 PM   #24 
        - But she was not uncontested, as you stated.  William769   Jan-29-08 08:27 PM   #32 
           - Kucinich was on the ballot  Kittycat   Jan-29-08 08:28 PM   #35 
              - Which means she was NOT uncontested.  William769   Jan-29-08 08:30 PM   #37 
  - Guess again.  William769   Jan-29-08 08:18 PM   #3 
  - I could be wrong...but if we're discussing race...CA has a lot of blacks.  Flabbergasted   Jan-29-08 08:19 PM   #8 
     - Better check your demographics.  William769   Jan-29-08 08:21 PM   #16 
        - Got me.  Flabbergasted   Jan-29-08 08:26 PM   #27 
  - He's 6 days to do 24 states, good luck  sunonmars   Jan-29-08 08:18 PM   #4 
  - Dunno 'bout you, but I've been seeing Obama's national ads here  Fredda Weinberg   Jan-29-08 08:18 PM   #5 
  - Did he campaign in person. Cause when he does his support rises. Hillary's only shrinks  cryingshame   Jan-29-08 08:20 PM   #12 
     - I think you're mistaking her for Rudy. HRC wows crowds n/t  Fredda Weinberg   Jan-29-08 08:21 PM   #17 
  - Sorry---She won because she is viewed as competent, experienced  OHdem10   Jan-29-08 08:18 PM   #6 
  - Sorry. If Obama had campaigned in FL and MI it would have been close.  Flabbergasted   Jan-29-08 08:30 PM   #38 
  - Yeah, people cannot pick a candidate unless they have commercials and shit in their mailbox.  xultar   Jan-29-08 08:18 PM   #7 
  - No, but when Obama campaigns in person he shrinks her lead EVERY time. If you don't think name recog  cryingshame   Jan-29-08 08:23 PM   #20 
  - In Michigan She was the only one of the 3 that did not remove her name from the ballot  Tulkas   Jan-29-08 08:19 PM   #9 
  - Yep..  Scurrilous   Jan-29-08 08:19 PM   #10 
  - What? Do Floridians not have access to TV and newspapers? They must know who Obama is by now. He's  MetricSystem   Jan-29-08 08:19 PM   #11 
  - "Obama is inspringing to people when he's around." He makes then want to work.  Flabbergasted   Jan-29-08 08:20 PM   #15 
     - I thought the selling point is that he inspires people in their daily lives. At least that's what I  MetricSystem   Jan-29-08 09:13 PM   #74 
        - He'd have more clout in the WH.  Flabbergasted   Jan-29-08 09:18 PM   #78 
  - Obama has VERY high name recognition. His name recog. is higher than Edwards'  jackson_dem   Jan-29-08 08:20 PM   #14 
  - Not like Hillary's of course. Most people don't pay attention like we do.  Flabbergasted   Jan-29-08 08:23 PM   #19 
  - It isn't enough to explain him getting killed  jackson_dem   Jan-29-08 08:35 PM   #42 
     - Many vote dependent on sound bites and their emotions....  Flabbergasted   Jan-29-08 08:42 PM   #47 
        - We'll find out in about a week  jackson_dem   Jan-29-08 08:51 PM   #53 
  - Please, you KNOW Hillary's support only shrinks when Obama campaigns in person.  cryingshame   Jan-29-08 08:24 PM   #23 
  - I find it interesting how quickly this new meme is spreading.  Cass   Jan-29-08 08:22 PM   #18 
  - I know, you'd think he'd just walked in from the street  sunonmars   Jan-29-08 08:24 PM   #21 
  - I find it interesting that Hillary supporters can't admit Obama wins over voters when he campaigns  cryingshame   Jan-29-08 08:26 PM   #28 
  - Fact: When Obama campaigns actively in states he gains support quickly...  Flabbergasted   Jan-29-08 09:04 PM   #59 
  - Hillary's huge lead initially was most definitely because of name recognition.  AtomicKitten   Jan-29-08 08:24 PM   #22 
  - Well he has 6 days to do 24, that'll be fun for one on ones  sunonmars   Jan-29-08 08:25 PM   #25 
     - True, but that just shows how pathetic Clintons are. They only win by NOT campaigning  cryingshame   Jan-29-08 08:27 PM   #31 
        - Don't blame them for being popular. NT  mondo joe   Jan-29-08 08:37 PM   #46 
  - Do you think those states are caves? That they don't get the news?  mondo joe   Jan-29-08 08:25 PM   #26 
  - Obama inspires people when he's around. He makes them want to work.  Flabbergasted   Jan-29-08 08:31 PM   #39 
     - So he has to be around all the time in person to get anything to happen?  mondo joe   Jan-29-08 08:35 PM   #43 
        - In the Oval office he'd have quite a podium nationally and internationally don't ya think? nt  Flabbergasted   Jan-29-08 09:09 PM   #65 
           - But he has national presence now - people keep saying that's not enough and he  mondo joe   Jan-29-08 09:11 PM   #72 
              - Did GWB have more presence in or out of the WH?  Flabbergasted   Jan-29-08 09:19 PM   #80 
                 - Is being seen on tv what you mean by "on the ground"?  mondo joe   Jan-29-08 09:21 PM   #82 
  - Yep, people for who they know  Debi   Jan-29-08 08:26 PM   #29 
  - Her margin against uncommitted in Michigan wasn't that great. n/T  Windy   Jan-29-08 08:27 PM   #30 
  - Good point. Everybody knows Hillary and they either support her or they don't. Low-info voters,  milkyway   Jan-29-08 08:28 PM   #34 
  - Exactly thanks.  Flabbergasted   Jan-29-08 08:32 PM   #40 
  - Those poor Floridians, without internet or tv or magazines or newspapers.  mondo joe   Jan-29-08 08:36 PM   #44 
  - It's a ridiculous idea that all voters know all candidates equally. Name recognition has always  milkyway   Jan-29-08 08:42 PM   #48 
  - Poor unknown Obama. He only has national press and commercials running in FL.  mondo joe   Jan-29-08 08:58 PM   #54 
     - No ground campaining which is where he is most effective.  Flabbergasted   Jan-29-08 09:07 PM   #61 
        - If he has to be on the ground to be effective it's gonna be pretty sad if he gets the Presidency.  mondo joe   Jan-29-08 09:10 PM   #69 
           - He'd have quite a podium in the WH. Haven't we had this discussion before?  Flabbergasted   Jan-29-08 09:16 PM   #77 
              - I guess I don't understand what you mean by "on the ground".  mondo joe   Jan-29-08 09:19 PM   #79 
  - You really should consider to stop insulting people from FL, just because you don't like the results  demo dutch   Jan-29-08 08:44 PM   #49 
     - Did you really need a sarcasm tag on my post?  mondo joe   Jan-29-08 08:59 PM   #55 
     - heh listen people are also posting stuff like this on another thread and I quote:  demo dutch   Jan-30-08 09:15 AM   #85 
  - You're wrong. Everyone I know, knows lots about all the candidates and  demo dutch   Jan-29-08 08:46 PM   #50 
  - Mark these words. If Obama was on the ground we would have seen a  Flabbergasted   Jan-29-08 08:49 PM   #51 
     - IA and NH are not representative of the rest of the country  demo dutch   Jan-29-08 08:51 PM   #52 
     - They are however quite representative of the effectiveness of Obama's campaigning  Flabbergasted   Jan-29-08 09:01 PM   #58 
     - You're right. They're white as snow.  milkyway   Jan-29-08 09:07 PM   #63 
     - Your marked words are simply speculation from someone drunk on the 0bama koolaid  mondo joe   Jan-29-08 09:00 PM   #56 
        - Good god. Frankly, It is just an observation no matter how factual.  Flabbergasted   Jan-29-08 09:06 PM   #60 
  - Not necessarily... the more I learn about Obama, the more I know he's not the right candidate.  nonconformist   Jan-29-08 09:09 PM   #66 
     - By and large he gains support when he campaigns on a local level.  Flabbergasted   Jan-29-08 09:11 PM   #70 
  - I'm reading a book about him.  lonestarnot   Jan-29-08 08:29 PM   #36 
  - I just wanted to give my opinion about this for whats it;s worth  Hill_YesWeWill   Jan-29-08 09:00 PM   #57 
  - Only 3% of Americans don't know who Obama is. Next excuse?  jackson_dem   Jan-29-08 09:07 PM   #62 
  - Ask all these people to write essays on what they know about Hillary vs Obama. nt  Flabbergasted   Jan-29-08 09:12 PM   #73 
  - Right... because people that live in MI and FL live in caves.  nonconformist   Jan-29-08 09:08 PM   #64 
  - Obama's ground game is where he is most effective. Of course he'd lose without it.  Flabbergasted   Jan-29-08 09:10 PM   #67 
  - So what you're saying is is that he can't win on the issues?  nonconformist   Jan-29-08 09:11 PM   #71 
  - dupe  Flabbergasted   Jan-29-08 09:10 PM   #68 
  - oops  Flabbergasted   Jan-29-08 09:15 PM   #76 
  - Don't discount the value Clinton gained from her pre-primary pandering ...  krkaufman   Jan-29-08 09:19 PM   #81 
  - LOL. I just posted a duplicate thread...didn't see this one. nt  calteacherguy   Jan-29-08 09:22 PM   #83 

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