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Mon Jan-28-08 12:58 PM
Response to Reply #66 |
| 77. Neither do I. So where's the evidence Obama knew? |
| -REZKO: $43 million from fed, 11 bldgs in Obama's district, 5 winter Chicago weeks without heat |
Proud2BAmurkin |
Jan-28-08 12:11 PM |
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Chicago politics at their finest. |
goldcanyonaz |
Jan-28-08 12:12 PM |
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There are some lessons one has to learn for oneself. Idealism doesn't |
Fredda Weinberg |
Jan-28-08 12:13 PM |
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agree. Better to learn it early but it's gonna hurt |
Proud2BAmurkin |
Jan-28-08 12:16 PM |
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Its an ugly scene, i'll say that |
sunonmars |
Jan-28-08 12:13 PM |
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Did anybody call to tell him about it? |
aquart |
Jan-28-08 12:22 PM |
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11 buildings in his district, he did nothing |
Proud2BAmurkin |
Jan-28-08 12:26 PM |
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He's a State Senator, not a landlord. You expect him to keep tabs on every building |
Occam Bandage |
Jan-28-08 12:27 PM |
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This is the responsiblity of state Reps and state Senators absolutely |
Proud2BAmurkin |
Jan-28-08 12:29 PM |
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What a joke. This is an issue for your alderman, maybe. Not your State Sen. |
Occam Bandage |
Jan-28-08 12:30 PM |
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State Senators |
Mz Pip |
Jan-28-08 12:44 PM |
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Absolutely. They are not responsible for the conditions of individual buildings. |
Occam Bandage |
Jan-28-08 12:47 PM |
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Especially when they are friends with the slumlords |
LibraLiz1973 |
Jan-28-08 12:54 PM |
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When he got complaints, he followed up. What I'm arguing is that |
Occam Bandage |
Jan-28-08 12:57 PM |
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followed up with his hand out for more $$$ and discounted real estate |
Proud2BAmurkin |
Jan-28-08 01:07 PM |
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No evidence he knew. You're talking out your ass. |
Occam Bandage |
Jan-28-08 01:11 PM |
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Once again: |
LibraLiz1973 |
Jan-28-08 12:54 PM |
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Move on. Nothing to see here. |
LibraLiz1973 |
Jan-28-08 12:18 PM |
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let's not forget.. |
indimuse |
Jan-28-08 12:42 PM |
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First: Did he know? Was he informed? Was he the proper person? |
aquart |
Jan-28-08 12:19 PM |
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Your telling me that NOT ONE person in those buildings in Obamas district |
LibraLiz1973 |
Jan-28-08 12:21 PM |
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Do you call your senator when you don't have heat? |
aquart |
Jan-28-08 12:26 PM |
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I've never been in that position. However, I know several people who |
LibraLiz1973 |
Jan-28-08 12:27 PM |
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This was when Barack was a STATE Senator. Not U.S. Senator. |
in_cog_ni_to |
Jan-28-08 12:50 PM |
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A lot of people do |
Marie26 |
Jan-28-08 12:52 PM |
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Do you know any who have? Or are you assuming? |
aquart |
Jan-28-08 01:33 PM |
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Nope |
Marie26 |
Jan-28-08 01:48 PM |
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They are called heaters, buy one...n/t |
here_is_to_hope |
Jan-28-08 12:57 PM |
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I can't. My apartment runs on one 15 amp fuse. It would blow the fuse. |
aquart |
Jan-28-08 01:30 PM |
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You choose to live in substandard housing and then |
here_is_to_hope |
Jan-28-08 01:39 PM |
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Are you not familiar |
Marie26 |
Jan-28-08 01:50 PM |
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What I want to know |
Marie26 |
Jan-28-08 12:49 PM |
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People roasting you in 5..4...3....2...1 |
LibraLiz1973 |
Jan-28-08 12:55 PM |
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So what, Rezko's tenants should have called their State Senator? You're really stretching. |
Occam Bandage |
Jan-28-08 12:27 PM |
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I've called on my state senator when city government failed to act |
Fredda Weinberg |
Jan-28-08 12:31 PM |
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Because the subject is Obama and he is PERFECT |
LibraLiz1973 |
Jan-28-08 12:48 PM |
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Why not? That's what they do. Obama didn't know what his close friend was doing? |
Proud2BAmurkin |
Jan-28-08 12:32 PM |
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Why would Obama be aware of the heating conditions in every building in his district? |
Occam Bandage |
Jan-28-08 12:34 PM |
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"took contributions from Rezko even after his low income housing empire was collapsing" |
Proud2BAmurkin |
Jan-28-08 12:35 PM |
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Non-sequitur. Answer the question. |
Occam Bandage |
Jan-28-08 12:36 PM |
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MTP question for Obama: "As president, will you pardon Mr. Rezko?". |
oasis |
Jan-28-08 12:29 PM |
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And he'd say... |
LiberalHeart |
Jan-28-08 12:34 PM |
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More likely response: "No." |
Occam Bandage |
Jan-28-08 12:35 PM |
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I'm dying to be treated to a bit of Obama's grand oratory on that occasion. |
oasis |
Jan-28-08 12:41 PM |
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Facts: |
ProSense |
Jan-28-08 12:32 PM |
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Real Facts |
Proud2BAmurkin |
Jan-28-08 12:34 PM |
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And is there any evidence that Obama was aware there was anything going on worse |
Occam Bandage |
Jan-28-08 12:36 PM |
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"than is standard for the South Side" |
Proud2BAmurkin |
Jan-28-08 12:38 PM |
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No, I'm serious. Nobody expects him to wave his hands and fix poverty. We're asking |
Occam Bandage |
Jan-28-08 12:42 PM |
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Well, if he wasn't.... there is a SERIOUS problem |
LibraLiz1973 |
Jan-28-08 12:45 PM |
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Do you expect all state officials to be aware of the heating conditions in every building? |
Occam Bandage |
Jan-28-08 12:45 PM |
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Well!! As long as it was THE STANDARD, it's okay!! |
LibraLiz1973 |
Jan-28-08 12:41 PM |
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Obama spent his entire career attempting to raise that standard, as an advocate, a civil-rights |
Occam Bandage |
Jan-28-08 12:44 PM |
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There is walking the walk, and there is talking the talk. |
LibraLiz1973 |
Jan-28-08 12:45 PM |
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And Obama walked the walk for decades. He was working as a community advocate for |
Occam Bandage |
Jan-28-08 12:46 PM |
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are you kidding? "Oops I pushed the wrong button in the child welfare funding bill" |
Proud2BAmurkin |
Jan-28-08 12:45 PM |
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I'm TELLING you... |
LibraLiz1973 |
Jan-28-08 12:48 PM |
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Actually, he apologized for that within minutes of it. That's taking responsibility. |
Occam Bandage |
Jan-28-08 12:48 PM |
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Wow, $1,000, raising money for many others, worked to improve living conditions of the poor: |
ProSense |
Jan-28-08 12:37 PM |
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Oh, forgot this, the real facts: |
ProSense |
Jan-28-08 12:39 PM |
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"Obama has been friends with Rezko for 17 years"????OMG. |
oasis |
Jan-28-08 12:43 PM |
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Did you expect Barack to go turn on the heat? |
Tulkas |
Jan-28-08 12:38 PM |
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Two years ago |
Proud2BAmurkin |
Jan-28-08 12:41 PM |
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I don't know why you even bother... |
LibraLiz1973 |
Jan-28-08 12:43 PM |
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I am from the "NO MORE BONEHEADS IN THE WHITE HOUSE GROUP!" NO MO! |
indimuse |
Jan-28-08 12:50 PM |
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And what's even worse, knowing that this guy's buildings were not being |
AndyA |
Jan-28-08 12:41 PM |
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exactly beyond not helping his constituents, he gleefully kept his hand out |
Proud2BAmurkin |
Jan-28-08 12:42 PM |
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Read above: It's OKAY because it was "THE STANDARD" |
LibraLiz1973 |
Jan-28-08 12:44 PM |
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Never said that. Rezko is clearly below the standard for the South Side. Pay attention. |
Occam Bandage |
Jan-28-08 12:45 PM |
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Oh. I didn't know that it was allowable for people to freeze to death in Chicago. |
AndyA |
Jan-28-08 12:45 PM |
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Well, it was the standard so it wasn't anything to get alarmed about. |
LibraLiz1973 |
Jan-28-08 12:46 PM |
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Again, I was explicitly drawing a line between the standard and between Rezko. |
Occam Bandage |
Jan-28-08 12:48 PM |
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What evidence do you have that he knew? Any? |
Occam Bandage |
Jan-28-08 12:45 PM |
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The amusing thing is, if this same story was about Hillary Clinton |
LibraLiz1973 |
Jan-28-08 12:47 PM |
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Nope. I defend HRC against bullshit too. |
Occam Bandage |
Jan-28-08 12:49 PM |
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I don't think people living in squalor and freezing is bullshit |
LibraLiz1973 |
Jan-28-08 12:52 PM |
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Neither do I. So where's the evidence Obama knew? |
Occam Bandage |
Jan-28-08 12:58 PM |
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As a matter of routine... |
LibraLiz1973 |
Jan-28-08 12:51 PM |
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So you admit you have no evidence. |
Occam Bandage |
Jan-28-08 12:58 PM |
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Search. The internet is your friend. |
AndyA |
Jan-28-08 12:58 PM |
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So you admit you have no evidence. You're talking out your ass. |
Occam Bandage |
Jan-28-08 12:59 PM |
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You're hallucinating. I said no such thing. |
AndyA |
Jan-28-08 05:09 PM |
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yikes... |
themartyred |
Jan-28-08 12:49 PM |
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So perhaps you can tell me what evidence exists |
Occam Bandage |
Jan-28-08 12:50 PM |
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Yes there are, but there's only so many owned by the Obama campaign fundraiser |
themartyred |
Jan-28-08 04:13 PM |
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Do we need to run through.....How much crap like this goes on in NY? |
BrentTaylor |
Jan-28-08 12:48 PM |
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Use a little common sense here. Do you think Senator Obama |
Vinca |
Jan-28-08 12:50 PM |
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What rubbish, of course he would, he's out for himself. |
sunonmars |
Jan-28-08 12:54 PM |
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If he'd run for president after one year in the senate, he has enough hubris for anything |
Proud2BAmurkin |
Jan-28-08 12:55 PM |
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True that |
LibraLiz1973 |
Jan-28-08 12:56 PM |
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It's sad how you just don't get it. |
Vinca |
Jan-28-08 01:03 PM |
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Yes, its a common mistake |
OzarkDem |
Jan-28-08 01:07 PM |
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oh, those poor college kids |
Scriptor Ignotus |
Jan-28-08 12:52 PM |
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Thats not what Ted Kennedy said! n/t |
here_is_to_hope |
Jan-28-08 12:56 PM |
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Illinois Coingate |
OzarkDem |
Jan-28-08 01:03 PM |
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Change, We Can Freeze The Poor With |
itsrobert |
Jan-28-08 01:38 PM |
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lol itsrobert! |
jackson_dem |
Jan-28-08 04:43 PM |
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LOL |
Proud2BAmurkin |
Jan-28-08 05:16 PM |
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When you got nothing but bitterness, scream REZKO. |
K Gardner |
Jan-28-08 04:14 PM |
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Still waiting for answers: Clinton regrets Marc Rich pardon |
ProSense |
Jan-28-08 05:18 PM |
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Cause Obama is Satan.... n/t |
Tatiana |
Jan-28-08 07:31 PM |
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