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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-28-08 02:34 PM
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37. Bill Clinton passed most of Newt's Contract On America issues, so this is BS
Edited on Mon Jan-28-08 02:38 PM by zulchzulu
If you look at what Bill Clinton did, he grabbed Newt's manual, changed a couple words here and there and then signed Newt's wishes into legislation.

Bill first proved he could play Repug-Lite by signing NAFTA (good-bye good jobs). He got the yuck yucks from the GOP fellas. Then he let his wife run mandated healthcare insurance to the ground and thus got the Repugs to get the House and Senate in 1994.

From then on, he took their tip to "reform" welfare ( an high-five to Reagan's "Welfare Queen" lie) , sign in the Telecommunications Act (media consolidation begun by Reagan), the Defense of Marriage Act (clearly the best law homophobes could ever ask for), China free trade (more jobs/industry gone from US) and other legislation that was equally supplemented with Clinton's zipper problem dragging the country into an embarrassing soap opera that deceived not only his wife but those who still supported him. This is the "experience" that Hillary Clinton is so proud of, even though she didn't have access to Presidential daily briefings or any kind of security clearances to have access to the Oval Office hi jinx.

The Clinton legacy in 2000 was so radioactive for Democrats that Al Gore chose Joe Lieberman in order to patch up the popular notion that all Democrats were perverts. We're still dealing with that decision.

A vote for Clinton, in other words, is a vote in dim-eyed faux nostalgia. A vote for Obama is to turn the page and begin the 21st Century correctly after the kind of sell-out triangulated politics that Clinton passed on from Poppa Bush.

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  -The Key Difference Between Clinton and Obama supporters Herman Munster  Jan-28-08 01:55 AM   #0 
  - Interesting.  Tatiana   Jan-28-08 01:58 AM   #1 
  - yeah but that's precisely the reason Obama is doing well with upscale dems  Herman Munster   Jan-28-08 02:02 AM   #2 
  - ///  angie_love   Jan-28-08 02:04 AM   #3 
  - well that's you  Herman Munster   Jan-28-08 02:06 AM   #6 
  - But repubs are Americans too. Not all Repubs are evil as some  NJObamaWoman   Jan-28-08 02:31 AM   #14 
  - How many times have we heard this, 'Unity with the GOP,' fallacy?  niceypoo   Jan-28-08 11:15 AM   #31 
  - my survival mode says  druidity33   Jan-28-08 05:58 AM   #26 
  - you think repubs are going to change just because of obama...think again.  Rene   Jan-28-08 06:16 AM   #28 
  - Not true for most Obama supporters. I don't make six figures.  NJObamaWoman   Jan-28-08 02:26 AM   #12 
  - I hear that message a lot.  Tatiana   Jan-28-08 02:31 AM   #15 
     - I want something different. I think experience is overrated and tends  NJObamaWoman   Jan-28-08 02:37 AM   #19 
  - He's doing well with young people in college and recently graduated.  Tatiana   Jan-28-08 02:27 AM   #13 
  - Yup I mean people dont understand us college folks.  NJObamaWoman   Jan-28-08 02:41 AM   #20 
     - I am a grad student.  Tatiana   Jan-28-08 02:50 AM   #21 
  - i'm not making six figures  Scriptor Ignotus   Jan-28-08 10:31 AM   #30 
  - Damn, I wish I was making six figures  tammywammy   Jan-29-08 01:29 AM   #39 
  - May I just say that I  babylonsister   Jan-28-08 02:06 AM   #8 
     - :)  Tatiana   Jan-28-08 02:36 AM   #17 
  - I think the Clintons have proved, primarily because of Bill, that they're irredeemable.  babylonsister   Jan-28-08 02:05 AM   #4 
  - Can't believe anything either Clinton says, that is the problem  Tulkas   Jan-28-08 02:05 AM   #5 
  - This part way true:  avrdream   Jan-28-08 02:06 AM   #7 
  - I agree with this, but having a female president  AGirl   Jan-28-08 02:09 AM   #9 
  - Not bad... guess I'm still an idealist who believes in peace  featherman   Jan-28-08 02:09 AM   #10 
  - A vote for Clinton, in other words, is a wager rooted in hard-eyed realism  Tweed   Jan-28-08 02:16 AM   #11 
  - Are they saying that Obama supporters are also acting more  DDQ   Jan-28-08 02:32 AM   #16 
  - Oh no you didtn't!  FrenchieCat   Jan-28-08 02:36 AM   #18 
  - America wasn't built on pie-in-th-sky hopes. It took hard work and sacrifice.  oasis   Jan-28-08 02:51 AM   #22 
  - interesting.  xchrom   Jan-28-08 04:47 AM   #23 
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  - I'm an Obama supporter and very much a realist.  Skidmore   Jan-28-08 05:50 AM   #25 
  - Well since NAFTA helped a lot of people fall out of the  Skwmom   Jan-28-08 06:15 AM   #27 
  - I don't want to grow old and bitter before having a president I fell in love with  Magic Rat   Jan-28-08 06:22 AM   #29 
  - I like both of them for different reasons... none of which were mentioned  Truth Hurts A Lot   Jan-28-08 11:17 AM   #32 
  - Well said.  applegrove   Jan-28-08 01:45 PM   #33 
  - Nicely balanced post -- I'd add about Edwards supporters...  Armstead   Jan-28-08 01:50 PM   #34 
  - Interesting choice of words:  Blue-Jay   Jan-28-08 01:53 PM   #35 
  - Clintons have defeated PUKES three times. Obama is going to be chewed up and spit out  Proud2BAmurkin   Jan-28-08 01:54 PM   #36 
  - Bill Clinton passed most of Newt's Contract On America issues, so this is BS  zulchzulu   Jan-28-08 02:34 PM   #37 
  - Count on the two frontrunners to deliver to corporations over the people n/t  eridani   Jan-29-08 01:27 AM   #38 
  - Oh yeah, those Clintons are such fighters  thecatburgler   Jan-29-08 01:31 AM   #40 

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