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52. right now, any democratic candidate
why? because we have come as close to destroying this country as we possibly could due to the policies of the republican party and the bush administration in particular. i appreciate the link to the whole speech. i did not find that in my searches and that is the kind of response i am looking for.
but the divisiveness on this website is disheartening and speaks loudly to why this party is in shambles. i think it would benefit us all to be a little more open-minded and receptive to differences in opinion. isn't that what we are really about?
and my initial objections to edwards had to do with his legal history and my personal experiences in healthcare. but i am trying to move away from that single issue and get a bigger picture.
so, thanks for asking. i appreciate that.
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  -John Edwards Addresses the Mother of all Other Issues Triana  Jan-27-08 06:25 PM   #0 
  - Shhh. We're not supposed to talk about the corporations.  mycritters2   Jan-27-08 06:27 PM   #1 
  - Pfffft! Don't forget UNITY! (one of Obama's favorite words)  Triana   Jan-27-08 06:54 PM   #13 
  - The mother of all issues will be GLOBAL WARMING  niceypoo   Jan-27-08 10:23 PM   #75 
  - the two are inseparable  frogcycle   Jan-27-08 11:25 PM   #84 
  - Exactly. They certainly are. Can't have progress on climate change  Triana   Jan-28-08 01:01 AM   #99 
     - Or a more likely solution ...  Sean Stuart   Jan-28-08 01:26 PM   #151 
  - that's one of those issues that our gov't has made ZERO PROGRESS ON.....  Triana   Jan-28-08 12:59 AM   #98 
  - PHARMA $$$$  clarence swinney   Jan-28-08 10:27 AM   #122 
  - The end of easy to get oil problem will undo us way before global warming.  L0oniX   Jan-28-08 10:30 AM   #123 
  - And don't forget the hope. We gotta have hope. It'll feed the hungry.  LiberalHeart   Jan-28-08 12:01 AM   #93 
  - Funny How Such Trivia is So CONVIENENTLY CAST ASIDE BY THE "CORPORATE OWNED MEDIA" The Voice of Corp  DaLittle Kitty   Jan-28-08 07:49 AM   #109 
     - Yea. WE know that but...see Voltaire99's post below - #105 He says it all  Triana   Jan-28-08 08:36 AM   #115 
  - Don't forget, they are people too. n/t  Inspired   Jan-27-08 07:17 PM   #17 
  - LOL!! A candidate's best friend. nt  mycritters2   Jan-27-08 07:19 PM   #18 
  - Lemmings... ATTENTION!!!!! GET IN LINE W/ THOSE WHO KNOW BETTER... Listhten...Just Say Change and..  DaLittle Kitty   Jan-28-08 07:46 AM   #107 
  - I love that.........  pauldg0   Jan-28-08 02:54 PM   #157 
  - Oh, Lord . . . Kumbaya!  Krashkopf   Jan-28-08 06:21 PM   #175 
  - Recovering Edwards Supporters?  sloppyjoe25s   Jan-28-08 06:22 PM   #176 
  - America's getting dicked  Mythsaje   Jan-27-08 06:29 PM   #2 
  - Wait!  Yael   Jan-27-08 06:46 PM   #9 
  - He must be richer than the rest of us n/t  zalinda   Jan-27-08 07:31 PM   #28 
  - That's the difference between the Dems and repubs...  KnaveRupe   Jan-27-08 09:14 PM   #66 
  - Yep. The Democratic Party has lost its foundation...  Triana   Jan-27-08 06:49 PM   #11 
     - Very informative graphic!  jackson_dem   Jan-27-08 07:25 PM   #23 
     - That graph says it all.  avaistheone1   Jan-27-08 07:34 PM   #29 
  - Geez, for a moment I thought he talked of stolen elections. McCain runs with  robbedvoter   Jan-27-08 06:29 PM   #3 
  - Getting corporate control out of government is the biggest issue. nm  rhett o rick   Jan-27-08 09:43 PM   #68 
     - Not to worry the Shepple won't get violent, they never do.  bagrman   Jan-28-08 02:13 PM   #154 
        - If they did they'd risk not getting their $600. nm  rhett o rick   Jan-28-08 03:11 PM   #158 
           - Can't risk your pile of stuff on somthing silly like your freedom.  bagrman   Jan-28-08 06:59 PM   #178 
  - See my post on Shelby Steele and his book on Obama...  Gloria   Jan-27-08 06:29 PM   #4 
  - Shelby Steele is now a revered source?  FrenchieCat   Jan-28-08 04:16 AM   #103 
  - he's talking about it now but his voting record  judaspriestess   Jan-27-08 06:34 PM   #5 
  - Do you all see why Edwards needs to continue throughout this primary?  Sarah Ibarruri   Jan-27-08 06:34 PM   #6 
  - Is there a word stronger than VITAL?  Yael   Jan-27-08 06:47 PM   #10 
  - HEAR HEAR! nt  Sarah Ibarruri   Jan-27-08 06:51 PM   #12 
  - I've always thought CRUCIAL was a tad stronger. YMMV. n/t  ElboRuum   Jan-28-08 12:38 PM   #144 
  - What about this message?  cbayer   Jan-27-08 07:00 PM   #14 
  - And I hate the corrupt, sick bastards at the meat companies, but I eat meat...  Sarah Ibarruri   Jan-27-08 07:09 PM   #16 
  - Smells like troll.  smokey nj   Jan-27-08 07:22 PM   #20 
  - wow, you must also have me confused with someone else  cbayer   Jan-27-08 07:31 PM   #27 
  - Disabled profile and only 30 posts.  smokey nj   Jan-27-08 07:42 PM   #36 
  - i don't get it  cbayer   Jan-27-08 07:54 PM   #41 
     - You also failed to provide a link to the speech. I did that for you.  smokey nj   Jan-27-08 07:57 PM   #42 
     - who do you support and why do you? nt  Sarah Ibarruri   Jan-27-08 08:06 PM   #50 
     - right now, any democratic candidate  cbayer   Jan-27-08 08:19 PM   #52 
        - Thanks for answering. I hope you vote. nt  Sarah Ibarruri   Jan-27-08 08:37 PM   #54 
        - Don't let them get you down...  ExPatLeftist   Jan-28-08 11:03 AM   #129 
           - Really thoughtful post  cbayer   Jan-28-08 11:34 AM   #135 
     - well  beezlebum   Jan-28-08 07:47 AM   #108 
  - Did you just give yourself away by accident? nt  Sarah Ibarruri   Jan-27-08 08:02 PM   # 
  - Did you just give yourself away by accident? nt  Sarah Ibarruri   Jan-27-08 08:02 PM   #46 
  - Who? nt  Sarah Ibarruri   Jan-27-08 08:01 PM   #45 
     - The poster to whom you were responding.  smokey nj   Jan-27-08 08:02 PM   #47 
        - Aah ok. nt  Sarah Ibarruri   Jan-27-08 08:03 PM   #49 
  - Wow, you must have me confused with someone else.  cbayer   Jan-27-08 07:27 PM   #25 
  - ot...I'm interested in how  femrap   Jan-27-08 11:17 PM   #82 
     - are you serious or do you just want to beat me up?  cbayer   Jan-27-08 11:28 PM   #86 
        - I tried to pm you, but can't...  femrap   Jan-27-08 11:53 PM   #90 
           - not very democratic at all  cbayer   Jan-27-08 11:59 PM   #91 
           - living off the grid  cbayer   Jan-28-08 12:38 AM   #96 
  - Here's another excerpt from that speech, as well as a link so people can read it in its entirety.  smokey nj   Jan-27-08 07:49 PM   #40 
     - Thanks! nt  Sarah Ibarruri   Jan-27-08 08:03 PM   #48 
  - You posted this exact same thing on another thread  zalinda   Jan-27-08 07:35 PM   #31 
  - You are missing the point  Armstead   Jan-27-08 07:39 PM   #34 
  - So...what ABOUT that message?  AlbertCat   Jan-28-08 10:55 AM   #126 
  - I just read a post from an Obama supporter  femrap   Jan-27-08 11:13 PM   #81 
  - We are headed straight for another trainwreck I fear....  Triana   Jan-28-08 01:02 AM   #100 
  - When the Obamarama Newbies get FUC*ED By The ESTABLISHMENT... They Will NOT Vote in General...  DaLittle Kitty   Jan-28-08 07:52 AM   #110 
  - Interesting point. There is a core of populism that will pick up the pieces.  balantz   Jan-28-08 09:39 AM   #119 
  - "I can't believe we are heading for another train wreck." I can.  Blue State Native   Jan-28-08 10:55 AM   #127 
  - I endorse that statement - Clinton from a government career, Obama from  higher class   Jan-28-08 08:57 AM   #116 
     - That's the blur...  Triana   Jan-28-08 09:50 AM   #120 
  - How truly you speak, Triana  NastyRiffraff   Jan-27-08 06:40 PM   #7 
  - EXACTLY, NRR...  Triana   Jan-27-08 07:35 PM   #30 
  - K&R n/t  Lugnut   Jan-27-08 10:14 PM   #71 
  - Well written, Triana  Yael   Jan-27-08 06:46 PM   #8 
  - bytheway...  Triana   Jan-27-08 07:06 PM   #15 
  - Done!!  smokey nj   Jan-27-08 07:23 PM   #21 
     - thank you! :) (n/t)  Triana   Jan-27-08 07:26 PM   #24 
  - Thank you!  bob_weaver   Jan-27-08 07:20 PM   #19 
  - Kind of a let down; thought he might have finally addressed ...  smalll   Jan-27-08 07:23 PM   #22 
  - At least he didn't get help  Andy823   Jan-27-08 07:28 PM   #26 
  - It's his wife's dream house  zalinda   Jan-27-08 07:38 PM   #33 
  - Ah, the cancer issue:  smalll   Jan-27-08 07:44 PM   #38 
     - Elizabeth still wants to campaign  zalinda   Jan-27-08 08:41 PM   #56 
  - good grief...  desertflamingo   Jan-27-08 09:06 PM   #62 
  - Umm.. that looks to me like its being built to be donated as a cancer  glowing   Jan-27-08 11:23 PM   #83 
  - Bingo. I've Heard Elizabeth Set It Up To Be A Hospice When She Leaves This Mortal Coil  Binka   Jan-28-08 11:23 AM   #133 
     - If this home-into-hospice thing is true, then I and many others owe the Edwardses an apology -  smalll   Jan-28-08 02:17 PM   #155 
        - Are the Kennedy's allowed to have a "compound"  RainDog   Jan-28-08 03:23 PM   #159 
  - What is it that bothers you about a man who came from a  midnight   Jan-28-08 09:33 AM   #118 
  - Yeah, but here's the rub:  Zorra   Jan-27-08 07:36 PM   #32 
  - It doesn't have to be that way  Armstead   Jan-27-08 07:42 PM   #35 
     - ABSOLUTELY. I've been saying this ad nauseum...  timeforarevolution   Jan-27-08 07:46 PM   #39 
     - It doesn't have to be that way; but it is that way - please listen,  Zorra   Jan-27-08 08:48 PM   #59 
        - I've seen steady improvement over the years  Armstead   Jan-27-08 10:16 PM   #72 
        - It's easier for the sheeple to understand if you call it a business plan, not corporatism.  bagrman   Jan-28-08 07:25 PM   #180 
  - Great Post  Armstead   Jan-27-08 07:43 PM   #37 
  - Edwards and Obama take money from the same people, and they do it in the same ways.  awaysidetraveler   Jan-27-08 07:59 PM   #43 
  - Well, I guess Kucinich wasn't taking big corporate money, but he's not with us anymore.  awaysidetraveler   Jan-27-08 08:00 PM   #44 
  - Thanks for that clarification.  Zorra   Jan-27-08 09:22 PM   #67 
  - Opensecrets.org is where the chart came from (n/t)  Triana   Jan-27-08 08:34 PM   #53 
  - This is THE primary issue that is being overlooked.  balantz   Jan-27-08 08:06 PM   #51 
  - Maybe when their pensions and 401Ks  femrap   Jan-27-08 11:28 PM   #87 
  - This is your masterpiece on DU.  asdjrocky   Jan-27-08 08:38 PM   #55 
  - Thanks rocky - and for heaven's sake...  Triana   Jan-27-08 10:07 PM   #69 
  - By the way, great post.  balantz   Jan-27-08 08:41 PM   #57 
  - you're not alone with your frustration and fear...  Triana   Jan-27-08 10:08 PM   #70 
  - I'm sorry, but I don't see Edwards solutions to the issues.....  FrenchieCat   Jan-27-08 08:43 PM   #58 
  - go to his website...  desertflamingo   Jan-27-08 09:07 PM   #63 
  - I['m sorry, but I don't get the Excitement....  FrenchieCat   Jan-27-08 10:42 PM   #78 
     - You're just not looking...  redqueen   Jan-28-08 11:06 AM   #130 
  - read his book  Two Americas   Jan-27-08 11:00 PM   #79 
  - Aren't you supposed  femrap   Jan-27-08 11:31 PM   #88 
  - Then you're not looking very hard.  redqueen   Jan-28-08 11:03 AM   #128 
  - You are soooooooooooooo right on this. HUGE kick! n/t  deacon   Jan-27-08 09:00 PM   #60 
  - Wish Edwards was this populist while he was still in the Senate!  Unsane   Jan-27-08 09:05 PM   #61 
  - he was a representative...  desertflamingo   Jan-27-08 09:09 PM   #64 
  - Check this thread  Armstead   Jan-27-08 10:19 PM   #74 
  - I wish I never sold my 63 Nova, but I did. Should I never drive again? nt  Snotcicles   Jan-28-08 04:06 AM   #102 
  - K & R  MissDeeds   Jan-27-08 09:10 PM   #65 
  - John is my choice for President, and no others come close right now... n/t  themartyred   Jan-27-08 10:17 PM   #73 
  - Edwards is...  7horses   Jan-27-08 10:30 PM   #76 
  - Amen, brother................  pauldg0   Jan-27-08 10:38 PM   #77 
  - nobody is talking about the crimes of bush/cheney, inc.  tomp   Jan-27-08 11:08 PM   #80 
  - SO - to your thinking...  Plucketeer   Jan-27-08 11:49 PM   #89 
     - WHY should i trust YOU?  tomp   Jan-28-08 08:18 AM   #111 
        - So...  Plucketeer   Jan-28-08 12:56 PM   #145 
           - wow! way not to answer a question.  tomp   Jan-28-08 03:42 PM   #160 
  - Corporations are GOOD...  MsMagnificent   Jan-27-08 11:27 PM   #85 
  - If he's going to be a Populist, then be a Poplulist!  cottonseed   Jan-28-08 01:06 PM   #147 
     - self delete -- dupe  MsMagnificent   Jan-28-08 09:50 PM   # 
     - self delete -- dupe  MsMagnificent   Jan-28-08 09:50 PM   #181 
     - Well  MsMagnificent   Jan-28-08 09:50 PM   #182 
  - You Couldn't Be More Right...  CorpGovActivist   Jan-28-08 12:00 AM   #92 
  - Wonderful thread-! ...but anyone taking up this issue is in danger .. .  defendandprotect   Jan-28-08 12:03 AM   #94 
  - We KNOW they don't want him to be heard, that's a certainty...  Triana   Jan-28-08 12:51 AM   #97 
  - Good post  Digit   Jan-28-08 12:05 AM   #95 
  - Getting ALL the corperations and their lobbist off the hill...  and-justice-for-all   Jan-28-08 01:46 AM   #101 
  - Big kick & Recommended!  liberalla   Jan-28-08 06:29 AM   #104 
  - He gets it. But he won't get the nomination.  Voltaire99   Jan-28-08 07:28 AM   #105 
  - I agree Volaire - unfortunately you are absolutely right..  Triana   Jan-28-08 08:34 AM   #113 
  - "replace big bad Bush, everything will be fine. Nope"  frog92969   Jan-28-08 09:02 AM   #117 
  - *sigh*  redqueen   Jan-28-08 11:11 AM   #132 
  - Adding another K & R  BrklynLiberal   Jan-28-08 07:28 AM   #106 
  - Corporations are worse than Terrorists  Phred42   Jan-28-08 08:23 AM   #112 
  - Corporate terrorism...aka The Shock Doctrine...  Triana   Jan-28-08 08:35 AM   #114 
  - WALL STREET  clarence swinney   Jan-28-08 10:19 AM   #121 
  - Kick the lobbyists out of Washington DC  RestoreGore   Jan-28-08 10:30 AM   #124 
  - That is indeed the mother of all other issues  Time for change   Jan-28-08 10:50 AM   #125 
  - Frankly I think (just my opinion)..  Triana   Jan-28-08 11:36 AM   #136 
     - It has certainly disintegrated quite a bit  Time for change   Jan-28-08 04:55 PM   #166 
  - "his programs were announced first, and ... pushed Clinton and Obama in a progressive direction"  redqueen   Jan-28-08 11:08 AM   #131 
  - That is he only role he can fill now - that the lamestream media has relegated him to....  Triana   Jan-28-08 11:38 AM   #138 
     - Well... I still have hope...  redqueen   Jan-28-08 11:43 AM   #140 
  - Well, I'm with you on this.  Maat   Jan-28-08 11:24 AM   #134 
  - Kick and Recommend! n/t  lisainmilo   Jan-28-08 11:37 AM   #137 
  - K&R. (nt)  Kurovski   Jan-28-08 11:40 AM   #139 
  - Yes! Thank you!  peacock   Jan-28-08 12:03 PM   #141 
  - ... those same corporations are going to keep him from being elected ...  Myrina   Jan-28-08 12:15 PM   #142 
  - can someone spell out for me Edwards' plan for anti-corporatism?  elias7   Jan-28-08 12:37 PM   #143 
  - Here:  Triana   Jan-28-08 01:07 PM   #148 
  - Yes, Edwards is talking about the big things.  cottonseed   Jan-28-08 01:00 PM   #146 
  - welcome back cottonseed - I agree RE: those other two  Triana   Jan-28-08 01:14 PM   #150 
  - If he's going to be a Populist, then be a Poplulist!  cottonseed   Jan-28-08 01:13 PM   #149 
  - They'd lynch him if he even suggested that. (n/t)  Triana   Jan-28-08 01:36 PM   #152 
     - Agreed, but a nice fat juicy top marginal tax rate is just what we need n/t  cottonseed   Jan-29-08 05:52 PM   #183 
  - Yep, it's the central issue. Obama seems to be selling amnesia.  donkeyotay   Jan-28-08 01:53 PM   #153 
  - I agree. He's selling gossamer platitudes and dreamy words..(and dreamy worlds)...  Triana   Jan-28-08 06:20 PM   #174 
  - Corporations are picking the President too  Robert Oak   Jan-28-08 02:34 PM   #156 
  - Fucking corporations have control of our health care system...  Hepburn   Jan-28-08 03:49 PM   #161 
  - That is sickening - what a sad, despicable statement about the state..  Triana   Jan-28-08 04:36 PM   #165 
  - And who owns the Message?  307 MMS   Jan-28-08 03:54 PM   #162 
  - That's right - the corprat-owned lamestream media controls the message...  Triana   Jan-28-08 04:32 PM   #164 
  - Perfectly put. Around that one issue everything else revolves.  go west young man   Jan-28-08 04:17 PM   #163 
  - This is why corp America and Republicans want...  Juniperx   Jan-28-08 05:04 PM   #167 
  - kick, and rec, and  marekjed   Jan-28-08 05:12 PM   #168 
  - Bullshit. Total fucking bullshit.  Bread and Circus   Jan-28-08 05:20 PM   #169 
  - Obama pased a law that you could only accept lunch from a lobbyist if you were standing up, big deal  kelligesq   Jan-28-08 05:50 PM   #171 
     - Lies. Please know the facts...  Bread and Circus   Jan-28-08 06:58 PM   #177 
  - i voted today for JOHN EDWARDS Since I will be working as a precinct advisor tomorrow,  kelligesq   Jan-28-08 05:46 PM   #170 
  - THANK YOU!  Triana   Jan-28-08 06:14 PM   #172 
  - That's why he has my vote.  NoSheep   Jan-28-08 06:16 PM   #173 
  - Kucinich gets this, and is under attack for it.  Peake   Jan-28-08 07:02 PM   #179 
 

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