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jackson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 02:52 PM
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3. That was the last time a candidate won around 80% of one racial group's vote in SC
If Edwards won 81% of the white vote in 2004 he would be a perfect analogue as well. He didn't. Neither did Clinton in 1992.
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  -Why I didn't mention the 1988 SC results..... BooScout  Jan-27-08 02:47 PM   #0 
  - Why would anyone need to go back to 1988 if their focus was anything but race?  sfexpat2000   Jan-27-08 02:49 PM   #1 
  - That was the last time a candidate won around 80% of one racial group's vote in SC  jackson_dem   Jan-27-08 02:52 PM   #3 
  - Precedent perhaps?  BooScout   Jan-27-08 02:52 PM   #4 
  - What kind of precedent? If you're doing numbers,  sfexpat2000   Jan-27-08 02:58 PM   #14 
     - No he didn't  dsc   Jan-27-08 05:50 PM   #58 
        - Are you sure, dsc? That isn't what I remember.  sfexpat2000   Jan-27-08 09:02 PM   #63 
           - I don't think anyone seriously thought he would get the nod  dsc   Jan-28-08 11:29 AM   #64 
              - I didn't realize he'd done so well. My family was still watching  sfexpat2000   Jan-28-08 01:22 PM   #65 
  - Because it closely mirrors what happened yesterday.  wlucinda   Jan-27-08 03:15 PM   #29 
     - No, it doesn't. Jackson's campaign was nothing like Obama's. n/t  sfexpat2000   Jan-27-08 03:48 PM   #38 
  - Thanks. Could you give me a link to the article?  AX10   Jan-27-08 02:50 PM   #2 
  - Here you go....  BooScout   Jan-27-08 02:54 PM   #5 
  - Militant Korrectness: It's not okay to elicit the image of  sfexpat2000   Jan-27-08 02:54 PM   #7 
     - Clinton never said any of those things.  AX10   Jan-27-08 02:57 PM   #11 
        - LOL! No doubt, I am.  sfexpat2000   Jan-27-08 02:59 PM   #16 
           - Obama and company have done a great job...  AX10   Jan-27-08 03:00 PM   #19 
              - My heart bleeds for the helpless Clintons.  sfexpat2000   Jan-27-08 03:01 PM   #20 
  - So who won  Mz Pip   Jan-27-08 02:54 PM   #6 
  - The 1980 winner didn't get 81% of the white vote  jackson_dem   Jan-27-08 02:56 PM   #9 
  - That's pretty much  Mz Pip   Jan-27-08 02:57 PM   #13 
     - Clinton stated the truth. The question is why  jackson_dem   Jan-27-08 03:00 PM   #17 
        - so it's ok to say that  darboy   Jan-27-08 06:14 PM   #60 
  - The point is.......  BooScout   Jan-27-08 02:56 PM   #10 
  - Except why pick Jackson if it isn't about race?  Drunken Irishman   Jan-27-08 02:55 PM   #8 
  - Edwards didn't get 81% of the white vote or 81% of the black vote. That's the difference  jackson_dem   Jan-27-08 02:57 PM   #12 
     - That's how I see it too.  AX10   Jan-27-08 02:59 PM   #15 
     - Oh please.  Drunken Irishman   Jan-27-08 03:00 PM   #18 
        - Obama was third among whites  jackson_dem   Jan-27-08 03:05 PM   #22 
           - SC's demographics do NOT represent the nation at large.  AX10   Jan-27-08 03:09 PM   #25 
           - True and that is also part of Bill Clinton's point, albeit subtly made  jackson_dem   Jan-27-08 03:11 PM   #27 
           - Exactly. He was devaluing Obama's win by saying his support is only among blacks.  Drunken Irishman   Jan-27-08 03:16 PM   #30 
              - I agree with you but Bill is a partisan, not a political analyst so he isn't going to be fair  jackson_dem   Jan-27-08 07:04 PM   #61 
                 - I don't expect him to be fair, just more smart.  Drunken Irishman   Jan-27-08 07:39 PM   #62 
  - If it isn't about race, why of all candidates pick Jackson? Oh, and the Guardian is a tabloid.  Occam Bandage   Jan-27-08 03:02 PM   #21 
  - Sweetums....  BooScout   Jan-27-08 03:06 PM   #23 
     - It's hard to respect any statement that begins with a condescension.  sfexpat2000   Jan-27-08 03:08 PM   #24 
     - Especially one that does not actually offer an argument contrasting with the statement  Occam Bandage   Jan-27-08 03:18 PM   #33 
     - Live now? No. But I studied at Cambridge for a year, so I'm familiar with the papers.  Occam Bandage   Jan-27-08 03:18 PM   #32 
  - Jesse Jackson was born in SC went to High School there and left to go to college.  dkf   Jan-27-08 03:09 PM   #26 
  - There is more to it. Jackson won all the southern states with large black populations  jackson_dem   Jan-27-08 03:12 PM   #28 
     - I know. But I'm just saying that for SC, I'm sure it helped  dkf   Jan-27-08 03:18 PM   #31 
  - But wait, in 2004, Sharpton didn't win...  guruant   Jan-27-08 03:18 PM   #34 
  - yup... SMH nt  Truth Hurts A Lot   Jan-27-08 03:20 PM   #36 
  - Speaking of Sharpton......  BooScout   Jan-27-08 04:02 PM   #41 
  - If it wasn't about race, then what does Jackson's win have to do with Obama's?  Truth Hurts A Lot   Jan-27-08 03:19 PM   #35 
  - The Clintons are not trying to paint Obama as The Black Candidate  Clarkansas   Jan-27-08 03:23 PM   #37 
  - Actually the Obamas did it. It was a calculated risk. We'll see how it plays out.  wlucinda   Jan-27-08 03:52 PM   #39 
     - Yes, Obama compares his SC victory to Jackson's SC victories  Clarkansas   Jan-27-08 03:58 PM   #40 
     - What Obama DID  wlucinda   Jan-27-08 04:13 PM   #43 
        - Obama=Jackson  Clarkansas   Jan-27-08 04:23 PM   #44 
           - Facts = Facts  wlucinda   Jan-27-08 04:32 PM   #45 
           - Clinton=LBJ  Clarkansas   Jan-27-08 04:36 PM   #46 
              - Not a racist remark. She was talking about Obama being inspirational  wlucinda   Jan-27-08 04:42 PM   #49 
           - He wishes! I'd vote for him if he were!  robbedvoter   Jan-27-08 05:03 PM   #53 
           - No. Obama = guy with risky strategy.  wlucinda   Jan-27-08 06:08 PM   #59 
     - Of course, the Obamas did it. In a party that is 75% to 80% non-black it is a really smart  pampango   Jan-27-08 05:19 PM   #55 
  - I know. And if you dare to post the reality YOU ARE RACIST  Evergreen Emerald   Jan-27-08 04:03 PM   #42 
  - Wasn't that a Caucus? as opposed to a secret ballot primary  Tulkas   Jan-27-08 04:38 PM   #47 
  - I pointed out it was a caucus......  BooScout   Jan-27-08 04:48 PM   #50 
  - Did Jackson win by 30%, and did Jackson win Iowa, and did Jackson  tekisui   Jan-27-08 04:41 PM   #48 
     - Jackson beat Gore by more.....around 33%  BooScout   Jan-27-08 04:59 PM   #51 
        - I did not know that, thanks.  tekisui   Jan-27-08 05:01 PM   #52 
        - You are welcome n/t  BooScout   Jan-27-08 05:04 PM   #54 
        - SC is meaningless.  AX10   Jan-27-08 05:21 PM   #56 
           - My point exactly......  BooScout   Jan-27-08 05:30 PM   #57 
           - Why is SC meaningless? Please expound nt  Truth Hurts A Lot   Jan-28-08 01:23 PM   #66 
 

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