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last1standing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-03 03:19 PM
Response to Reply #19
20. I disagree.
I think Dean understands the south better than most of the southerners running. Most people north and south don't care if a candidate makes a verbal gaffe. If they did, bush* would be sweeping streets instead of blowing them up. I also think the carpetbagger claim is rather specious. It doesn't ring true when you consider how well Dean does in southern polling (despite your problem with them). Dean is running hard on issues most southerners agree with and he's doing in a way that gets their attention. No one else can say that.

As for waking up, I think it's your nightmare, not ours.
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  -Can Dean win the South? last1standing  Dec-30-03 01:04 PM   #0 
  - can any of our candidates win the south?  CMT   Dec-30-03 01:07 PM   #1 
  - Edwards  JohnLocke   Dec-30-03 08:32 PM   #25 
     - Yes he will win both the Carolinas  cqhayes   Dec-30-03 11:23 PM   #58 
     - And/or Clark ------------- together would be awesome  Clark Can WIN   Dec-30-03 11:32 PM   #62 
  - Not the entire south  dave29   Dec-30-03 01:07 PM   #2 
  - Unfortunately, Dean would set it back even farther (in my opinion)  Racenut20   Dec-30-03 01:10 PM   #3 
  - You are wrong Dean is appealing to all of my ex-republican friends in MS  Melodybe   Dec-30-03 01:29 PM   #8 
  - thank you  TexasPatriot   Dec-30-03 01:11 PM   #4 
  - Right now, Dean is the ONLY candidate that can win the south!  burning bush   Dec-30-03 01:14 PM   #5 
  - I think your wrong, Clark can and will  retyred   Dec-30-03 01:18 PM   #6 
  - I've been wrong before.  last1standing   Dec-30-03 01:23 PM   #7 
  - at the same time  TexasPatriot   Dec-30-03 01:32 PM   #9 
  - He's got a loooong way to catch up to Dean in the South.  Scott Lee   Dec-30-03 09:07 PM   #39 
  - You can, actually.  Deesh   Dec-30-03 10:18 PM   #46 
  - the "south" is actually five different regions.  msanger   Dec-30-03 01:52 PM   #10 
  - I watched that campaign.  last1standing   Dec-30-03 01:56 PM   #11 
  - well...  GBD4   Dec-30-03 02:38 PM   #17 
  - The Party's Southern Problem  markus   Dec-30-03 02:00 PM   #12 
  - taking all the candidates off the table for a minute  TexasPatriot   Dec-30-03 09:07 PM   #38 
  - Very good point.....markus n/t  shivaji   Jan-02-04 01:18 AM   #81 
  - I'm beginning to think we ought to just let the South go  worldgonekrazy   Dec-30-03 02:26 PM   #13 
  - Oh, come now, surely there is room in the "big tent"  ArkDem   Dec-30-03 02:34 PM   #15 
  - I just wrote seven paragraphs challenging that statement.  last1standing   Dec-30-03 02:37 PM   #16 
  - Dean & Edwards with help from Clark,Graham and Clinton , will take South  surfermaw   Dec-30-03 02:29 PM   #14 
  - yes  TeacherCreature   Dec-30-03 02:40 PM   #18 
  - Dean has shown that he doesn't understand the south....  SayitAintSo   Dec-30-03 03:10 PM   #19 
  - I disagree.  last1standing   Dec-30-03 03:19 PM   #20 
  - Bull hockey ... not better than a southerner, I guarantee you.  SayitAintSo   Dec-30-03 08:01 PM   #21 
     - If rude people and gaffes don't work in the south...  last1standing   Dec-30-03 08:17 PM   #22 
     - am I going to have to put the hose on you two ?  arewethereyet   Dec-30-03 08:47 PM   #29 
     - Agreed ... Good point .  SayitAintSo   Dec-30-03 10:54 PM   #53 
     - I explain it like this ... Was it Clinton that said... Dems fall in love..  SayitAintSo   Dec-30-03 10:53 PM   #52 
        - It didn't seem rude at all.  last1standing   Dec-30-03 11:22 PM   #56 
           - I am with you on concern for people not voting their true interests  SayitAintSo   Dec-30-03 11:42 PM   #65 
              - That is where my original post was going.  last1standing   Dec-31-03 12:01 AM   #67 
     - hold on - dumping the south into a bucket for a sec  TexasPatriot   Dec-30-03 08:53 PM   #32 
        - sage words from the Great State of Texas  arewethereyet   Dec-30-03 09:03 PM   #34 
        - If you're right, I think we're in big trouble.  last1standing   Dec-30-03 09:05 PM   #36 
           - it was a huge mistake to walk away from the south  arewethereyet   Dec-30-03 09:12 PM   #41 
           - You're right.  last1standing   Dec-30-03 09:16 PM   #42 
              - oh I almost forgot  arewethereyet   Dec-30-03 09:25 PM   #43 
           - taking on both of these posts  TexasPatriot   Dec-30-03 10:12 PM   #44 
              - If that's the case, then how do you explain the last thirty years?  last1standing   Dec-30-03 10:22 PM   #49 
                 - heh  TexasPatriot   Dec-30-03 11:36 PM   #63 
                    - Thanks for the info.  last1standing   Dec-30-03 11:52 PM   #66 
                       - ok  TexasPatriot   Dec-31-03 12:33 AM   #71 
                          - Basically, you think the South can be much more in play than I do.  last1standing   Jan-02-04 12:11 AM   #78 
  - Dean is winning the South - more than Clark by 3:1  Scott Lee   Dec-30-03 09:06 PM   #37 
  - by and large you're right on the money but Edwards is the answer  arewethereyet   Dec-30-03 08:19 PM   #23 
  - I don't think having a southerner on the ticket is necessary.  last1standing   Dec-30-03 08:29 PM   #24 
     - I hear what you're saying  arewethereyet   Dec-30-03 08:34 PM   #26 
        - I thought Dean was running with a good platform for the South.  last1standing   Dec-30-03 08:40 PM   #28 
           - where do I start...  arewethereyet   Dec-30-03 08:50 PM   #30 
              - You don't think southerners see the merit in those things?  last1standing   Dec-30-03 08:58 PM   #33 
                 - Well I believe you'll be surprized regarding Edwards  arewethereyet   Dec-30-03 09:05 PM   #35 
                    - We don't disagree on his quality.  last1standing   Dec-30-03 09:07 PM   #40 
  - Only A White Southerner Can Win The South  burning bush   Dec-30-03 08:36 PM   #27 
  - you make him sound like US Grant  arewethereyet   Dec-30-03 08:51 PM   #31 
  - heh  TexasPatriot   Dec-30-03 10:15 PM   #45 
  - the Starbuck's doctrine  windansea   Dec-30-03 10:21 PM   #48 
  - Dean has been fearless and bold I agree...  SayitAintSo   Dec-30-03 11:22 PM   #57 
     - But how can Edwards take the south?  last1standing   Dec-30-03 11:27 PM   #61 
        - My thinking is that Clark is the better bet, but I am impressed by Edwards  SayitAintSo   Dec-31-03 12:05 AM   #68 
  - Clark's charm and military background play well in the South  floridaguy   Dec-30-03 10:20 PM   #47 
  - if the story about fudged Kosovo reports gets going, nope  arewethereyet   Dec-30-03 10:24 PM   #50 
  - Can you back that up with some fact?  last1standing   Dec-30-03 10:25 PM   #51 
     - fair  arewethereyet   Dec-30-03 11:01 PM   #55 
        - I was replying to post #47, but I would like to know more about this.  last1standing   Dec-30-03 11:24 PM   #59 
        - I also wait for more on this as its dynamite  arewethereyet   Dec-31-03 12:16 AM   #69 
        - i just dont buy the shelton stuff  TexasPatriot   Dec-30-03 11:40 PM   #64 
           - my military contacts seem to feel otherwise  arewethereyet   Dec-31-03 12:19 AM   #70 
              - here's the link  TexasPatriot   Dec-31-03 01:19 AM   #72 
  - Not only must we fight, we must hit the professional liars who echo  Turkw   Dec-30-03 10:59 PM   #54 
  - Only with Sam Nunn  BobbyJay   Dec-30-03 11:25 PM   #60 
  - kicking  TexasPatriot   Jan-01-04 11:35 PM   #73 
  - This is from a few days ago and my memory isn't that good.  last1standing   Jan-01-04 11:40 PM   #74 
     - 71  TexasPatriot   Jan-01-04 11:44 PM   #75 
  - Gene Lyons, author of "The Hunting of the President" doesn't think so.  Clark4VotingRights   Jan-01-04 11:49 PM   #76 
     - I appreciate his opinion.  last1standing   Jan-02-04 12:02 AM   #77 
        - Oh, sorry. I thought you were inviting input.  Clark4VotingRights   Jan-02-04 12:39 AM   #79 
           - I was inviting input.  last1standing   Jan-02-04 12:41 AM   #80 
 

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