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183. Funny, you say I am a sheep
I watched Hillary use the "spade" term. I watched her interview connecting MLK to Johnson. I watched Bill blow up in Nevada. I watched Bill try and tie Obama to Jesse Jackson, after a truce was called.

Guess what? I came to my own f***ing conclusions.

Who the hell is playing the victim card here? Poor Hillary. And now her DU representatives want to whine about it.

Here's an idea, instead request your candidate to run a campaign on the issues and stop injecting race into the race.

Same goes for Obama.

And while your at it, stop pounding each other with smear tactics. We will have enough of that after the primarys. No need to give the Repuglicans any ammo.

Oh, by the way, there are three candidates in this race.
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  -I am so fucking sick of the Billary Bashing lwcon  Jan-26-08 11:17 PM   #0 
  - Groupthink and sheepthink  Proud2BAmurkin   Jan-26-08 11:18 PM   #1 
  - Obama is running a Shrewd Attack campaign  neutron   Jan-27-08 12:55 AM   #82 
  - At first, I thought that Obama was by far the stronger candidate  lwcon   Jan-27-08 01:17 AM   #89 
  - Obama is playing the victim card  niceypoo   Jan-27-08 02:15 AM   #110 
  - it worked in SC--wonder how far he will carry Bill in his head this coming week??  rodeodance   Jan-27-08 09:26 AM   #144 
  - 1000% agreed. n/t  Clinton Crusader   Jan-27-08 07:14 PM   #173 
  - He is using the Bush attack plan, and it worked on Gore and Kerry  Evergreen Emerald   Jan-27-08 10:24 AM   #156 
  - Media hype  niceypoo   Jan-27-08 02:14 AM   #109 
  - You better get rid of your TV if she becomes our nominee. Republican field day.  Neshanic   Jan-26-08 11:19 PM   #2 
  - Thank you. That reminds me of another raft of bullshit.  lwcon   Jan-26-08 11:26 PM   #10 
  - "scaredy cat bipartisan" I hear you bro. Reagan pandering makes me vomit.  Proud2BAmurkin   Jan-26-08 11:40 PM   #29 
  - Please don't puke every time you hear that. You'll end up cleaning up every day.  Sarah Ibarruri   Jan-26-08 11:46 PM   #37 
  - You're right. That would be full-blown, if you'll pardon the expression, bulimia n/t  lwcon   Jan-27-08 12:25 AM   #67 
  - Great post! I totally agree.  krabigirl   Jan-27-08 11:25 AM   #160 
  - You don't seriously think the Republicans can't swiftboat Obama?  Endangered Specie   Jan-27-08 10:45 PM   #182 
  - Isn't the term "Billary" a form of bashing? nt  Truth Hurts A Lot   Jan-26-08 11:20 PM   #3 
  - It's just shorthand, unless you want it to be insulting n/t  lwcon   Jan-26-08 11:27 PM   #11 
  - You said "Billary" ha ha ha ha! n/t  LoZoccolo   Jan-26-08 11:22 PM   #4 
  - The intense hatred of Bill Clinton among Obamites is cult-like and despicable  kurth   Jan-26-08 11:23 PM   #5 
  - I certainly have my issues with both Bill and Hillary  lwcon   Jan-27-08 12:28 AM   #69 
  - I'm for Obama  Zenzic   Jan-27-08 04:24 AM   #116 
  - And weird.  krabigirl   Jan-27-08 11:27 AM   #161 
  - The only groupthink is the groupthink charge  alcibiades_mystery   Jan-26-08 11:23 PM   #6 
  - Who's alienating whom?  1corona4u   Jan-26-08 11:25 PM   #9 
  - Groupthink is and generally has been a charge  alcibiades_mystery   Jan-26-08 11:34 PM   # 
     - But what if... for the sake of argument, all hypothetical like...  lwcon   Jan-27-08 12:38 AM   #76 
     - Things I don't believe in  alcibiades_mystery   Jan-27-08 01:43 AM   #97 
     - So, you're taking cults off the table?  lwcon   Jan-27-08 02:01 AM   #100 
     - Let's take it off the table  alcibiades_mystery   Jan-27-08 02:02 AM   #101 
        - You're the one posting bullshit, and everybody here knows it.  Jim Sagle   Jan-27-08 10:54 PM   #184 
           - Ahhhh  alcibiades_mystery   Jan-27-08 11:00 PM   #185 
     - wrong  amborin   Jan-27-08 10:34 PM   #178 
        - People are influenced by their peers?  alcibiades_mystery   Jan-27-08 11:05 PM   #186 
           - ROFLMAO  amborin   Jan-27-08 11:12 PM   #187 
              - Good response!  alcibiades_mystery   Jan-27-08 11:17 PM   #188 
                 - groupthink revisited  amborin   Jan-27-08 11:22 PM   #189 
                    - No workee linkee  alcibiades_mystery   Jan-27-08 11:37 PM   #191 
                       - not a good summary of the study  amborin   Jan-27-08 11:39 PM   #193 
                          - Listen  alcibiades_mystery   Jan-28-08 12:05 AM   #195 
                             - please  amborin   Jan-28-08 06:46 PM   #196 
                                - Oh, I read Dawkins  alcibiades_mystery   Jan-28-08 10:15 PM   #197 
     - Well ..they already have...Have you never heard of BUSH???!  indimuse   Jan-27-08 09:25 AM   #143 
     - I keep hearing of the Obama unity/Vision thingy-not much else-that is Groupthink to me.  rodeodance   Jan-27-08 09:31 AM   #147 
        - You hear what you want to hear  alcibiades_mystery   Jan-27-08 10:27 PM   #177 
  - I agree with the O/P  HughMoran   Jan-26-08 11:31 PM   #15 
  - BINGO!  havocmom   Jan-26-08 11:32 PM   #16 
  - Of course, in Obamaworld, any comment that's not said...  lwcon   Jan-26-08 11:34 PM   #20 
  - Where is this Obamaworld?  havocmom   Jan-26-08 11:36 PM   #22 
  - I've been watching this dynamic developing for two years  lwcon   Jan-26-08 11:46 PM   #39 
     - Point to Obamaworld on a map. It would offer some  havocmom   Jan-26-08 11:51 PM   #45 
        - The sad thing is that they are GROUP LABELS  alcibiades_mystery   Jan-26-08 11:53 PM   #50 
           - Yep.  havocmom   Jan-26-08 11:56 PM   #53 
           - I believe Aristotle called this...  lwcon   Jan-27-08 02:05 AM   #103 
              - Hilarious  alcibiades_mystery   Jan-27-08 02:09 AM   #108 
  - "Kool-aid" just another way of saying groupthink  alcibiades_mystery   Jan-26-08 11:36 PM   #23 
     - When a bunch of people reflexively defend...  lwcon   Jan-26-08 11:48 PM   #42 
        - I don't agree  alcibiades_mystery   Jan-26-08 11:50 PM   #44 
        - I'm battle-hardened, friend  lwcon   Jan-27-08 01:50 AM   #98 
           - Was I supposed to glean something from this  alcibiades_mystery   Jan-27-08 01:54 AM   #99 
              - If I were truly in a one-man cult of personality...  lwcon   Jan-27-08 02:35 AM   #114 
                 - Here's a hint  alcibiades_mystery   Jan-27-08 08:58 AM   #129 
        - Some of us have never defended Obama, we just call foul on your labels  havocmom   Jan-26-08 11:52 PM   #49 
           - Crowd mind! Fad! Bandwagon! Groupthink! Mob mentality!  alcibiades_mystery   Jan-26-08 11:54 PM   #52 
              - My high school speech teacher would've throw the ilk outta class  havocmom   Jan-26-08 11:58 PM   #57 
  - The prevailing gripe is that the Clintons and their supporter are racists  lwcon   Jan-27-08 02:17 AM   #111 
     - Is that the prevailing gripe?  alcibiades_mystery   Jan-27-08 09:02 AM   #130 
     - What I have noticed is that they are PLAYING the race card. Not noticed them called racists  havocmom   Jan-27-08 09:12 AM   #133 
  - I'd "stip it" if only I knew what that was. n/t  lwcon   Jan-26-08 11:32 PM   #17 
     - Ah, the typo critique  alcibiades_mystery   Jan-26-08 11:38 PM   #26 
        - Please direct me to the sibstance in your previous post n/t  lwcon   Jan-26-08 11:39 PM   #28 
        - Whoopsies. Typo cop typos  havocmom   Jan-26-08 11:43 PM   #31 
        - I read that positively  alcibiades_mystery   Jan-26-08 11:45 PM   #35 
        - You are more charitable than I  havocmom   Jan-26-08 11:46 PM   #38 
        - That was a joke, ibviously. n/t  lwcon   Jan-26-08 11:45 PM   #36 
           - Sure a lot of jokes falling flat here tonight  havocmom   Jan-26-08 11:48 PM   #41 
        - Well, it was an evaluation  alcibiades_mystery   Jan-26-08 11:44 PM   #32 
        - More like poster is all about tantrums tonight  havocmom   Jan-26-08 11:41 PM   #30 
           - Perhaps you should have studied Adult Development.  emilyg   Jan-27-08 12:08 AM   #63 
           - Ooh, I just caught up with that one. Well played! n/t  lwcon   Jan-27-08 02:47 AM   #115 
           - Have a towel and a drink of water after all your conclusion jumping  havocmom   Jan-27-08 08:56 AM   #127 
           - I bow to the power of your rhetoric and wit! n/t  lwcon   Jan-27-08 12:31 AM   #73 
  - It is sickening.  AX10   Jan-26-08 11:24 PM   #7 
  - Sickening, isn't it....and you're right.  1corona4u   Jan-26-08 11:24 PM   #8 
  - You Think Billary Didn't Know What He/She was saying???  Tulkas   Jan-26-08 11:27 PM   #12 
  - Pretty funny, since the obsession of the Obama Fan Base is...  lwcon   Jan-26-08 11:30 PM   #14 
  - I know he does that.. I never said he didn't  Tulkas   Jan-26-08 11:47 PM   #40 
  - Please provide some detail n/t  lwcon   Jan-26-08 11:49 PM   #43 
     - Well today's was the Jesse Jackson comment  Tulkas   Jan-27-08 12:01 AM   #59 
        - Thanks for taking the time to tell me that n/t  lwcon   Jan-27-08 12:23 AM   #66 
        - Who gives a shit what the 'pundits said'  1corona4u   Jan-27-08 12:30 AM   #72 
           - The pundits have it out for the Clintons.  AX10   Jan-27-08 12:57 AM   #83 
              - I know that, you know that....  1corona4u   Jan-27-08 01:12 AM   #88 
  - Yep.  1corona4u   Jan-27-08 12:28 AM   #70 
  - exactly  amborin   Jan-27-08 11:38 PM   #192 
  - I think Obama's a piece of crap, as well as a liar, and a slacker...  1corona4u   Jan-27-08 12:27 AM   #68 
  - so the racism charges/denials/bickering will stop when obama becomes prez and clintons recede? not.  VotesForWomen   Jan-27-08 01:28 AM   #92 
  - K&R--"Did Obama or Hillary supporters get an e-mail like this today?"  DianaForRussFeingold   Jan-26-08 11:29 PM   #13 
  - I am against all bashing  Frances   Jan-26-08 11:33 PM   #18 
  - Race baiting is cool  sniffa   Jan-26-08 11:34 PM   #19 
  - Is it possible that others heard things that you did not?  algol   Jan-26-08 11:35 PM   #21 
  - Please provide evidence  lwcon   Jan-26-08 11:38 PM   #27 
     - I thought I was careful not to charge them as racists...  algol   Jan-27-08 12:04 AM   #60 
        - Here's where the playing field is unlevel  lwcon   Jan-27-08 12:21 AM   #65 
           - Exactly.  1corona4u   Jan-27-08 12:34 AM   #74 
           - I'll concede these, but the field may be leveling  algol   Jan-27-08 12:40 AM   #77 
              - I've got my doubts  lwcon   Jan-27-08 01:33 AM   #95 
  - what's your definitions of "bashing"?  Bread and Circus   Jan-26-08 11:37 PM   #24 
  - The two things that have made me sick here  lwcon   Jan-26-08 11:44 PM   #33 
  - Having a well thought out opinion based on facts and observation but not agreeing with OP  havocmom   Jan-26-08 11:44 PM   #34 
     - Please enlighten us about...  lwcon   Jan-26-08 11:52 PM   #47 
        - Please show me where I ever said/advocated any such thing  havocmom   Jan-26-08 11:54 PM   #51 
           - Clever retort. But you dismissed the OP...  lwcon   Jan-27-08 12:06 AM   #62 
              - Do you do more than assume  havocmom   Jan-27-08 09:18 AM   #137 
  - I too am sick  CatnHat   Jan-26-08 11:37 PM   #25 
  - Billary is a right wing term. nt  cat_girl25   Jan-26-08 11:51 PM   #46 
  - yes, it is and I will not use it.  rodeodance   Jan-27-08 09:28 AM   #145 
  - I was going to leave DU for a while - but it's posts like yours that make it  robbedvoter   Jan-26-08 11:52 PM   #48 
  - Thanks for the comment and the #s  lwcon   Jan-26-08 11:57 PM   #55 
     - Just a DU post - didnt give a link. Somehow, I somehow suspect it wasn't a Dem  robbedvoter   Jan-27-08 12:06 AM   #61 
  - Well Im fuckin sick of Billary. Today what Bill Said about Obama and Jackson was disgusting.  hnmnf   Jan-26-08 11:56 PM   #54 
  - Please post the details n/t  lwcon   Jan-26-08 11:57 PM   #56 
  - An AP article had a tiny quote about his saying Jesse Jackson won SC twice  robbedvoter   Jan-27-08 12:00 AM   #58 
     - So do I.  emilyg   Jan-27-08 12:12 AM   #64 
  - Yes,please do....  1corona4u   Jan-27-08 12:38 AM   #75 
  - This is why I believe a Hillary Clinton nomination will be a disaster  ErnestoG   Jan-27-08 12:29 AM   #71 
  - Talk about divisive?  1corona4u   Jan-27-08 12:46 AM   #78 
  - It's a tight rope walk, to be sure....  ErnestoG   Jan-27-08 12:49 AM   #79 
  - Well, whomever told you that Obama wouldn't win SC  1corona4u   Jan-27-08 12:53 AM   #81 
     - That wasnt what I said  ErnestoG   Jan-27-08 12:59 AM   #84 
  - I'm not quite sure what you're saying here about Iowa  lwcon   Jan-27-08 01:08 AM   #86 
  - Oh, GOP-ers kicked in all right - Rush told them as much. SC is open primary:  robbedvoter   Jan-27-08 06:13 AM   #119 
  - Sans pencil, here goes...  lwcon   Jan-27-08 01:04 AM   #85 
     - How about a ball point pen....  ErnestoG   Jan-27-08 01:09 AM   #87 
     - Hillary doesn't have a strong, natural base, and she's a dyed-in-the wool centrist  lwcon   Jan-27-08 01:22 AM   #90 
        - It's not rational, but there it is  ErnestoG   Jan-27-08 01:29 AM   #93 
           - I consider it our job to get the words right  lwcon   Jan-27-08 01:41 AM   #96 
              - It doesnt matter what the words are....  ErnestoG   Jan-27-08 02:24 AM   #113 
     - she voted FOR the war  WillYourVoteBCounted   Jan-27-08 02:05 AM   #104 
     - This relates to the OP how? n/t  lwcon   Jan-27-08 02:07 AM   #106 
     - and has NOT apologized for that vote, last I checked....  ErnestoG   Jan-27-08 10:43 PM   #181 
     - that was supposed to be "partisan 'food fight'" n/t  lwcon   Jan-27-08 02:20 AM   #112 
  - You are right, i can't stand this freaking place sometimes.  AGirl   Jan-27-08 12:49 AM   #80 
  - say it. just think what 4 years of an obama presidency will be like. constant racism charges, denial  VotesForWomen   Jan-27-08 01:26 AM   #91 
  - Goin' for all the white wimminz, teaching our kids jazz,  ErnestoG   Jan-27-08 01:30 AM   #94 
  - put it on You Tube "Leave Billary Alone!"  WillYourVoteBCounted   Jan-27-08 02:03 AM   #102 
  - Perhaps that's more of a job for...  lwcon   Jan-27-08 02:06 AM   #105 
     - !!!!  goldcanyonaz   Jan-27-08 02:08 AM   #107 
  - I've noticed it's the Obama people--not the Clinton people---who are incessantly talking about race.  Perry Logan   Jan-27-08 05:52 AM   #117 
  - I for one, would actually read your OP if you didn't drop a childish F-Bomb in the midst of it.  GalleryGod   Jan-27-08 06:05 AM   #118 
  - Me too, people don't have to use that language to make a point.  harun   Jan-27-08 07:37 AM   #123 
  - To quote the brilliant Avedon Carol (of the "Sideshow" blog)  lwcon   Jan-27-08 08:50 AM   #125 
  - Oh, wow! What a gem! Thanks for that!  robbedvoter   Jan-27-08 09:14 AM   #134 
  - I agree.  totodeinhere   Jan-27-08 09:37 AM   #151 
  - Frank Rich's Sunday NY Times column: "The Billary Road to Republican Victory"  Pryderi   Jan-27-08 06:18 AM   #120 
  - it's not groupthink, it's similar independent conclusions based on observing the same dirty bastards  JackORoses   Jan-27-08 06:24 AM   #121 
  - You'll have to ask one of them n/t  lwcon   Jan-27-08 08:45 AM   #124 
  - Tha subject line would make a great sig line  havocmom   Jan-27-08 09:15 AM   #135 
     - of course  JackORoses   Jan-27-08 11:48 PM   #194 
  - Bill Clinton's Selfish Myopia  ProSense   Jan-27-08 07:25 AM   #122 
  - I agree, Bill Clinton should take a hint and shut the fu*k up already...!  Imagevision   Jan-27-08 08:51 AM   #126 
  - and stop the race baiting.  Mystery2Me   Jan-27-08 09:08 AM   #132 
  - Ah, the great liberal tradition of STFU  lwcon   Jan-27-08 09:20 AM   #139 
  - Fellow war protesters write me now: "F*it, I'm voting Hillary! Got several random  robbedvoter   Jan-27-08 08:56 AM   #128 
  - Maybe it was because the Clintons WERE hitting below the belt  karynnj   Jan-27-08 09:05 AM   #131 
  - Details, please. n/t  lwcon   Jan-27-08 09:15 AM   #136 
     - ROFL (n/t)  havocmom   Jan-27-08 09:20 AM   #138 
     - Easily amused much?  lwcon   Jan-27-08 09:21 AM   #141 
     - Here:  ProSense   Jan-27-08 09:23 AM   #142 
        - Would you be so kind as to...  lwcon   Jan-27-08 09:38 AM   #152 
           - OK:  ProSense   Jan-27-08 09:49 AM   #153 
              - Obamaites have been very quick with the sweeping accusations  lwcon   Jan-27-08 10:11 AM   #154 
                 - You're offering spin to counter Hillary campaign's lies and desperate robo calls? n/t  ProSense   Jan-27-08 10:22 AM   #155 
                    - I make no such offer (to spin for Hillary)  lwcon   Jan-27-08 11:18 AM   #157 
  - Sorry but...  Me_Shell   Jan-27-08 09:20 AM   #140 
  - Sad, but true. But I'll still speak up for what's (IMHO) right.  lwcon   Jan-27-08 09:33 AM   #148 
  - Obama will do anything to win. Playing the victim worked for him last week few weeks.  rodeodance   Jan-27-08 09:29 AM   #146 
  - It was a brilliant trap  kurth   Jan-27-08 09:33 AM   #149 
  - Yup n/t  lwcon   Jan-27-08 09:34 AM   #150 
  - I agree with you.  krabigirl   Jan-27-08 11:21 AM   #158 
  - IMO, Dems involved in this have betrayed not only the Clintons,  guruoo   Jan-27-08 11:24 AM   #159 
  - It's been so over the top and so nasty  seasonedblue   Jan-27-08 11:31 AM   #162 
  - I don't know. I generally figure it's better to stand and fight...  lwcon   Jan-27-08 12:09 PM   #164 
  - Thanks. We had the same feeling when we watched the recent coverage  tandot   Jan-27-08 12:00 PM   #163 
  - Here's one guy who noticed  lwcon   Jan-27-08 12:44 PM   #167 
  - That's funny. I'm so fucking sick of Billary. nt  Oregonian   Jan-27-08 12:09 PM   #165 
  - So, go ahead and bash them like everyone else  lwcon   Jan-27-08 12:14 PM   #166 
     - Will do.  Oregonian   Jan-27-08 01:10 PM   #168 
        - If you happen to find any issues of substance, just back away  lwcon   Jan-27-08 01:40 PM   #169 
  - Hey, she goofed!! That's her fault not Obamas.  kdpeters   Jan-27-08 06:13 PM   #170 
  - The simple fact that the use of Clintons, plural, will keep her from getting elected.  bagrman   Jan-27-08 06:54 PM   #171 
  - Taking my life in my hands, I agree with you  Clinton Crusader   Jan-27-08 07:10 PM   #172 
  - I think it's pretty sickening too  Time for change   Jan-27-08 10:15 PM   #174 
  - sick of Hillary bashing, too  amborin   Jan-27-08 10:22 PM   #175 
  - I understood the Republican remarks.  allinktup   Jan-27-08 10:34 PM   #179 
  - lwcon...Good for you  allinktup   Jan-27-08 10:23 PM   #176 
  - Did everyone forget that Obama's mother is WHITE  allinktup   Jan-27-08 10:41 PM   #180 
  - Funny, you say I am a sheep  CaptJasHook   Jan-27-08 10:47 PM   #183 
  - You should be "fucking" sick of both hillary and obama bashing  still_one   Jan-27-08 11:24 PM   #190 
 

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