| 113. It doesnt matter what the words are.... |
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I was illustrating for you a political reality. And that reality is that Hillary is not well liked, and she will be even less liked in a general election. A Hillary nomination will almost guarantee four coming years of a Republican president.
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| -I am so fucking sick of the Billary Bashing |
lwcon |
Jan-26-08 11:17 PM |
#0 |
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Groupthink and sheepthink |
Proud2BAmurkin |
Jan-26-08 11:18 PM |
#1 |
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Obama is running a Shrewd Attack campaign |
neutron |
Jan-27-08 12:55 AM |
#82 |
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At first, I thought that Obama was by far the stronger candidate |
lwcon |
Jan-27-08 01:17 AM |
#89 |
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Obama is playing the victim card |
niceypoo |
Jan-27-08 02:15 AM |
#110 |
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it worked in SC--wonder how far he will carry Bill in his head this coming week?? |
rodeodance |
Jan-27-08 09:26 AM |
#144 |
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1000% agreed. n/t |
Clinton Crusader |
Jan-27-08 07:14 PM |
#173 |
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He is using the Bush attack plan, and it worked on Gore and Kerry |
Evergreen Emerald |
Jan-27-08 10:24 AM |
#156 |
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Media hype |
niceypoo |
Jan-27-08 02:14 AM |
#109 |
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You better get rid of your TV if she becomes our nominee. Republican field day. |
Neshanic |
Jan-26-08 11:19 PM |
#2 |
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Thank you. That reminds me of another raft of bullshit. |
lwcon |
Jan-26-08 11:26 PM |
#10 |
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"scaredy cat bipartisan" I hear you bro. Reagan pandering makes me vomit. |
Proud2BAmurkin |
Jan-26-08 11:40 PM |
#29 |
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Please don't puke every time you hear that. You'll end up cleaning up every day. |
Sarah Ibarruri |
Jan-26-08 11:46 PM |
#37 |
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You're right. That would be full-blown, if you'll pardon the expression, bulimia n/t |
lwcon |
Jan-27-08 12:25 AM |
#67 |
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Great post! I totally agree. |
krabigirl |
Jan-27-08 11:25 AM |
#160 |
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You don't seriously think the Republicans can't swiftboat Obama? |
Endangered Specie |
Jan-27-08 10:45 PM |
#182 |
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Isn't the term "Billary" a form of bashing? nt |
Truth Hurts A Lot |
Jan-26-08 11:20 PM |
#3 |
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It's just shorthand, unless you want it to be insulting n/t |
lwcon |
Jan-26-08 11:27 PM |
#11 |
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You said "Billary" ha ha ha ha! n/t |
LoZoccolo |
Jan-26-08 11:22 PM |
#4 |
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The intense hatred of Bill Clinton among Obamites is cult-like and despicable |
kurth |
Jan-26-08 11:23 PM |
#5 |
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I certainly have my issues with both Bill and Hillary |
lwcon |
Jan-27-08 12:28 AM |
#69 |
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I'm for Obama |
Zenzic |
Jan-27-08 04:24 AM |
#116 |
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And weird. |
krabigirl |
Jan-27-08 11:27 AM |
#161 |
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The only groupthink is the groupthink charge |
alcibiades_mystery |
Jan-26-08 11:23 PM |
#6 |
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Who's alienating whom? |
1corona4u |
Jan-26-08 11:25 PM |
#9 |
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Groupthink is and generally has been a charge |
alcibiades_mystery |
Jan-26-08 11:34 PM |
# |
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But what if... for the sake of argument, all hypothetical like... |
lwcon |
Jan-27-08 12:38 AM |
#76 |
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Things I don't believe in |
alcibiades_mystery |
Jan-27-08 01:43 AM |
#97 |
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So, you're taking cults off the table? |
lwcon |
Jan-27-08 02:01 AM |
#100 |
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Let's take it off the table |
alcibiades_mystery |
Jan-27-08 02:02 AM |
#101 |
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You're the one posting bullshit, and everybody here knows it. |
Jim Sagle |
Jan-27-08 10:54 PM |
#184 |
| -
Ahhhh |
alcibiades_mystery |
Jan-27-08 11:00 PM |
#185 |
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wrong |
amborin |
Jan-27-08 10:34 PM |
#178 |
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People are influenced by their peers? |
alcibiades_mystery |
Jan-27-08 11:05 PM |
#186 |
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ROFLMAO |
amborin |
Jan-27-08 11:12 PM |
#187 |
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Good response! |
alcibiades_mystery |
Jan-27-08 11:17 PM |
#188 |
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groupthink revisited |
amborin |
Jan-27-08 11:22 PM |
#189 |
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No workee linkee |
alcibiades_mystery |
Jan-27-08 11:37 PM |
#191 |
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not a good summary of the study |
amborin |
Jan-27-08 11:39 PM |
#193 |
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Listen |
alcibiades_mystery |
Jan-28-08 12:05 AM |
#195 |
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please |
amborin |
Jan-28-08 06:46 PM |
#196 |
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Oh, I read Dawkins |
alcibiades_mystery |
Jan-28-08 10:15 PM |
#197 |
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Well ..they already have...Have you never heard of BUSH???! |
indimuse |
Jan-27-08 09:25 AM |
#143 |
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I keep hearing of the Obama unity/Vision thingy-not much else-that is Groupthink to me. |
rodeodance |
Jan-27-08 09:31 AM |
#147 |
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You hear what you want to hear |
alcibiades_mystery |
Jan-27-08 10:27 PM |
#177 |
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I agree with the O/P |
HughMoran |
Jan-26-08 11:31 PM |
#15 |
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BINGO! |
havocmom |
Jan-26-08 11:32 PM |
#16 |
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Of course, in Obamaworld, any comment that's not said... |
lwcon |
Jan-26-08 11:34 PM |
#20 |
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Where is this Obamaworld? |
havocmom |
Jan-26-08 11:36 PM |
#22 |
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I've been watching this dynamic developing for two years |
lwcon |
Jan-26-08 11:46 PM |
#39 |
| -
Point to Obamaworld on a map. It would offer some |
havocmom |
Jan-26-08 11:51 PM |
#45 |
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The sad thing is that they are GROUP LABELS |
alcibiades_mystery |
Jan-26-08 11:53 PM |
#50 |
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Yep. |
havocmom |
Jan-26-08 11:56 PM |
#53 |
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I believe Aristotle called this... |
lwcon |
Jan-27-08 02:05 AM |
#103 |
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Hilarious |
alcibiades_mystery |
Jan-27-08 02:09 AM |
#108 |
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"Kool-aid" just another way of saying groupthink |
alcibiades_mystery |
Jan-26-08 11:36 PM |
#23 |
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When a bunch of people reflexively defend... |
lwcon |
Jan-26-08 11:48 PM |
#42 |
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I don't agree |
alcibiades_mystery |
Jan-26-08 11:50 PM |
#44 |
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I'm battle-hardened, friend |
lwcon |
Jan-27-08 01:50 AM |
#98 |
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Was I supposed to glean something from this |
alcibiades_mystery |
Jan-27-08 01:54 AM |
#99 |
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If I were truly in a one-man cult of personality... |
lwcon |
Jan-27-08 02:35 AM |
#114 |
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Here's a hint |
alcibiades_mystery |
Jan-27-08 08:58 AM |
#129 |
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Some of us have never defended Obama, we just call foul on your labels |
havocmom |
Jan-26-08 11:52 PM |
#49 |
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Crowd mind! Fad! Bandwagon! Groupthink! Mob mentality! |
alcibiades_mystery |
Jan-26-08 11:54 PM |
#52 |
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My high school speech teacher would've throw the ilk outta class |
havocmom |
Jan-26-08 11:58 PM |
#57 |
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The prevailing gripe is that the Clintons and their supporter are racists |
lwcon |
Jan-27-08 02:17 AM |
#111 |
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Is that the prevailing gripe? |
alcibiades_mystery |
Jan-27-08 09:02 AM |
#130 |
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What I have noticed is that they are PLAYING the race card. Not noticed them called racists |
havocmom |
Jan-27-08 09:12 AM |
#133 |
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I'd "stip it" if only I knew what that was. n/t |
lwcon |
Jan-26-08 11:32 PM |
#17 |
| -
Ah, the typo critique |
alcibiades_mystery |
Jan-26-08 11:38 PM |
#26 |
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Please direct me to the sibstance in your previous post n/t |
lwcon |
Jan-26-08 11:39 PM |
#28 |
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Whoopsies. Typo cop typos |
havocmom |
Jan-26-08 11:43 PM |
#31 |
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I read that positively |
alcibiades_mystery |
Jan-26-08 11:45 PM |
#35 |
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You are more charitable than I |
havocmom |
Jan-26-08 11:46 PM |
#38 |
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That was a joke, ibviously. n/t |
lwcon |
Jan-26-08 11:45 PM |
#36 |
| -
Sure a lot of jokes falling flat here tonight |
havocmom |
Jan-26-08 11:48 PM |
#41 |
| -
Well, it was an evaluation |
alcibiades_mystery |
Jan-26-08 11:44 PM |
#32 |
| -
More like poster is all about tantrums tonight |
havocmom |
Jan-26-08 11:41 PM |
#30 |
| -
Perhaps you should have studied Adult Development. |
emilyg |
Jan-27-08 12:08 AM |
#63 |
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Ooh, I just caught up with that one. Well played! n/t |
lwcon |
Jan-27-08 02:47 AM |
#115 |
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Have a towel and a drink of water after all your conclusion jumping |
havocmom |
Jan-27-08 08:56 AM |
#127 |
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I bow to the power of your rhetoric and wit! n/t |
lwcon |
Jan-27-08 12:31 AM |
#73 |
| -
It is sickening. |
AX10 |
Jan-26-08 11:24 PM |
#7 |
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Sickening, isn't it....and you're right. |
1corona4u |
Jan-26-08 11:24 PM |
#8 |
| -
You Think Billary Didn't Know What He/She was saying??? |
Tulkas |
Jan-26-08 11:27 PM |
#12 |
| -
Pretty funny, since the obsession of the Obama Fan Base is... |
lwcon |
Jan-26-08 11:30 PM |
#14 |
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I know he does that.. I never said he didn't |
Tulkas |
Jan-26-08 11:47 PM |
#40 |
| -
Please provide some detail n/t |
lwcon |
Jan-26-08 11:49 PM |
#43 |
| -
Well today's was the Jesse Jackson comment |
Tulkas |
Jan-27-08 12:01 AM |
#59 |
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Thanks for taking the time to tell me that n/t |
lwcon |
Jan-27-08 12:23 AM |
#66 |
| -
Who gives a shit what the 'pundits said' |
1corona4u |
Jan-27-08 12:30 AM |
#72 |
| -
The pundits have it out for the Clintons. |
AX10 |
Jan-27-08 12:57 AM |
#83 |
| -
I know that, you know that.... |
1corona4u |
Jan-27-08 01:12 AM |
#88 |
| -
Yep. |
1corona4u |
Jan-27-08 12:28 AM |
#70 |
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exactly |
amborin |
Jan-27-08 11:38 PM |
#192 |
| -
I think Obama's a piece of crap, as well as a liar, and a slacker... |
1corona4u |
Jan-27-08 12:27 AM |
#68 |
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so the racism charges/denials/bickering will stop when obama becomes prez and clintons recede? not. |
VotesForWomen |
Jan-27-08 01:28 AM |
#92 |
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K&R--"Did Obama or Hillary supporters get an e-mail like this today?" |
DianaForRussFeingold |
Jan-26-08 11:29 PM |
#13 |
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I am against all bashing |
Frances |
Jan-26-08 11:33 PM |
#18 |
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Race baiting is cool |
sniffa |
Jan-26-08 11:34 PM |
#19 |
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Is it possible that others heard things that you did not? |
algol |
Jan-26-08 11:35 PM |
#21 |
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Please provide evidence |
lwcon |
Jan-26-08 11:38 PM |
#27 |
| -
I thought I was careful not to charge them as racists... |
algol |
Jan-27-08 12:04 AM |
#60 |
| -
Here's where the playing field is unlevel |
lwcon |
Jan-27-08 12:21 AM |
#65 |
| -
Exactly. |
1corona4u |
Jan-27-08 12:34 AM |
#74 |
| -
I'll concede these, but the field may be leveling |
algol |
Jan-27-08 12:40 AM |
#77 |
| -
I've got my doubts |
lwcon |
Jan-27-08 01:33 AM |
#95 |
| -
what's your definitions of "bashing"? |
Bread and Circus |
Jan-26-08 11:37 PM |
#24 |
| -
The two things that have made me sick here |
lwcon |
Jan-26-08 11:44 PM |
#33 |
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Having a well thought out opinion based on facts and observation but not agreeing with OP |
havocmom |
Jan-26-08 11:44 PM |
#34 |
| -
Please enlighten us about... |
lwcon |
Jan-26-08 11:52 PM |
#47 |
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Please show me where I ever said/advocated any such thing |
havocmom |
Jan-26-08 11:54 PM |
#51 |
| -
Clever retort. But you dismissed the OP... |
lwcon |
Jan-27-08 12:06 AM |
#62 |
| -
Do you do more than assume |
havocmom |
Jan-27-08 09:18 AM |
#137 |
| -
I too am sick |
CatnHat |
Jan-26-08 11:37 PM |
#25 |
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Billary is a right wing term. nt |
cat_girl25 |
Jan-26-08 11:51 PM |
#46 |
| -
yes, it is and I will not use it. |
rodeodance |
Jan-27-08 09:28 AM |
#145 |
| -
I was going to leave DU for a while - but it's posts like yours that make it |
robbedvoter |
Jan-26-08 11:52 PM |
#48 |
| -
Thanks for the comment and the #s |
lwcon |
Jan-26-08 11:57 PM |
#55 |
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Just a DU post - didnt give a link. Somehow, I somehow suspect it wasn't a Dem |
robbedvoter |
Jan-27-08 12:06 AM |
#61 |
| -
Well Im fuckin sick of Billary. Today what Bill Said about Obama and Jackson was disgusting. |
hnmnf |
Jan-26-08 11:56 PM |
#54 |
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Please post the details n/t |
lwcon |
Jan-26-08 11:57 PM |
#56 |
| -
An AP article had a tiny quote about his saying Jesse Jackson won SC twice |
robbedvoter |
Jan-27-08 12:00 AM |
#58 |
| -
So do I. |
emilyg |
Jan-27-08 12:12 AM |
#64 |
| -
Yes,please do.... |
1corona4u |
Jan-27-08 12:38 AM |
#75 |
| -
This is why I believe a Hillary Clinton nomination will be a disaster |
ErnestoG |
Jan-27-08 12:29 AM |
#71 |
| -
Talk about divisive? |
1corona4u |
Jan-27-08 12:46 AM |
#78 |
| -
It's a tight rope walk, to be sure.... |
ErnestoG |
Jan-27-08 12:49 AM |
#79 |
| -
Well, whomever told you that Obama wouldn't win SC |
1corona4u |
Jan-27-08 12:53 AM |
#81 |
| -
That wasnt what I said |
ErnestoG |
Jan-27-08 12:59 AM |
#84 |
| -
I'm not quite sure what you're saying here about Iowa |
lwcon |
Jan-27-08 01:08 AM |
#86 |
| -
Oh, GOP-ers kicked in all right - Rush told them as much. SC is open primary: |
robbedvoter |
Jan-27-08 06:13 AM |
#119 |
| -
Sans pencil, here goes... |
lwcon |
Jan-27-08 01:04 AM |
#85 |
| -
How about a ball point pen.... |
ErnestoG |
Jan-27-08 01:09 AM |
#87 |
| -
Hillary doesn't have a strong, natural base, and she's a dyed-in-the wool centrist |
lwcon |
Jan-27-08 01:22 AM |
#90 |
| -
It's not rational, but there it is |
ErnestoG |
Jan-27-08 01:29 AM |
#93 |
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I consider it our job to get the words right |
lwcon |
Jan-27-08 01:41 AM |
#96 |
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It doesnt matter what the words are.... |
ErnestoG |
Jan-27-08 02:24 AM |
#113 |
| -
she voted FOR the war |
WillYourVoteBCounted |
Jan-27-08 02:05 AM |
#104 |
| -
This relates to the OP how? n/t |
lwcon |
Jan-27-08 02:07 AM |
#106 |
| -
and has NOT apologized for that vote, last I checked.... |
ErnestoG |
Jan-27-08 10:43 PM |
#181 |
| -
that was supposed to be "partisan 'food fight'" n/t |
lwcon |
Jan-27-08 02:20 AM |
#112 |
| -
You are right, i can't stand this freaking place sometimes. |
AGirl |
Jan-27-08 12:49 AM |
#80 |
| -
say it. just think what 4 years of an obama presidency will be like. constant racism charges, denial |
VotesForWomen |
Jan-27-08 01:26 AM |
#91 |
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Goin' for all the white wimminz, teaching our kids jazz, |
ErnestoG |
Jan-27-08 01:30 AM |
#94 |
| -
put it on You Tube "Leave Billary Alone!" |
WillYourVoteBCounted |
Jan-27-08 02:03 AM |
#102 |
| -
Perhaps that's more of a job for... |
lwcon |
Jan-27-08 02:06 AM |
#105 |
| -
!!!! |
goldcanyonaz |
Jan-27-08 02:08 AM |
#107 |
| -
I've noticed it's the Obama people--not the Clinton people---who are incessantly talking about race. |
Perry Logan |
Jan-27-08 05:52 AM |
#117 |
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I for one, would actually read your OP if you didn't drop a childish F-Bomb in the midst of it. |
GalleryGod |
Jan-27-08 06:05 AM |
#118 |
| -
Me too, people don't have to use that language to make a point. |
harun |
Jan-27-08 07:37 AM |
#123 |
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To quote the brilliant Avedon Carol (of the "Sideshow" blog) |
lwcon |
Jan-27-08 08:50 AM |
#125 |
| -
Oh, wow! What a gem! Thanks for that! |
robbedvoter |
Jan-27-08 09:14 AM |
#134 |
| -
I agree. |
totodeinhere |
Jan-27-08 09:37 AM |
#151 |
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Frank Rich's Sunday NY Times column: "The Billary Road to Republican Victory" |
Pryderi |
Jan-27-08 06:18 AM |
#120 |
| -
it's not groupthink, it's similar independent conclusions based on observing the same dirty bastards |
JackORoses |
Jan-27-08 06:24 AM |
#121 |
| -
You'll have to ask one of them n/t |
lwcon |
Jan-27-08 08:45 AM |
#124 |
| -
Tha subject line would make a great sig line |
havocmom |
Jan-27-08 09:15 AM |
#135 |
| -
of course |
JackORoses |
Jan-27-08 11:48 PM |
#194 |
| -
Bill Clinton's Selfish Myopia |
ProSense |
Jan-27-08 07:25 AM |
#122 |
| -
I agree, Bill Clinton should take a hint and shut the fu*k up already...! |
Imagevision |
Jan-27-08 08:51 AM |
#126 |
| -
and stop the race baiting. |
Mystery2Me |
Jan-27-08 09:08 AM |
#132 |
| -
Ah, the great liberal tradition of STFU |
lwcon |
Jan-27-08 09:20 AM |
#139 |
| -
Fellow war protesters write me now: "F*it, I'm voting Hillary! Got several random |
robbedvoter |
Jan-27-08 08:56 AM |
#128 |
| -
Maybe it was because the Clintons WERE hitting below the belt |
karynnj |
Jan-27-08 09:05 AM |
#131 |
| -
Details, please. n/t |
lwcon |
Jan-27-08 09:15 AM |
#136 |
| -
ROFL (n/t) |
havocmom |
Jan-27-08 09:20 AM |
#138 |
| -
Easily amused much? |
lwcon |
Jan-27-08 09:21 AM |
#141 |
| -
Here: |
ProSense |
Jan-27-08 09:23 AM |
#142 |
| -
Would you be so kind as to... |
lwcon |
Jan-27-08 09:38 AM |
#152 |
| -
OK: |
ProSense |
Jan-27-08 09:49 AM |
#153 |
| -
Obamaites have been very quick with the sweeping accusations |
lwcon |
Jan-27-08 10:11 AM |
#154 |
| -
You're offering spin to counter Hillary campaign's lies and desperate robo calls? n/t |
ProSense |
Jan-27-08 10:22 AM |
#155 |
| -
I make no such offer (to spin for Hillary) |
lwcon |
Jan-27-08 11:18 AM |
#157 |
| -
Sorry but... |
Me_Shell |
Jan-27-08 09:20 AM |
#140 |
| -
Sad, but true. But I'll still speak up for what's (IMHO) right. |
lwcon |
Jan-27-08 09:33 AM |
#148 |
| -
Obama will do anything to win. Playing the victim worked for him last week few weeks. |
rodeodance |
Jan-27-08 09:29 AM |
#146 |
| -
It was a brilliant trap |
kurth |
Jan-27-08 09:33 AM |
#149 |
| -
Yup n/t |
lwcon |
Jan-27-08 09:34 AM |
#150 |
| -
I agree with you. |
krabigirl |
Jan-27-08 11:21 AM |
#158 |
| -
IMO, Dems involved in this have betrayed not only the Clintons, |
guruoo |
Jan-27-08 11:24 AM |
#159 |
| -
It's been so over the top and so nasty |
seasonedblue |
Jan-27-08 11:31 AM |
#162 |
| -
I don't know. I generally figure it's better to stand and fight... |
lwcon |
Jan-27-08 12:09 PM |
#164 |
| -
Thanks. We had the same feeling when we watched the recent coverage |
tandot |
Jan-27-08 12:00 PM |
#163 |
| -
Here's one guy who noticed |
lwcon |
Jan-27-08 12:44 PM |
#167 |
| -
That's funny. I'm so fucking sick of Billary. nt |
Oregonian |
Jan-27-08 12:09 PM |
#165 |
| -
So, go ahead and bash them like everyone else |
lwcon |
Jan-27-08 12:14 PM |
#166 |
| -
Will do. |
Oregonian |
Jan-27-08 01:10 PM |
#168 |
| -
If you happen to find any issues of substance, just back away |
lwcon |
Jan-27-08 01:40 PM |
#169 |
| -
Hey, she goofed!! That's her fault not Obamas. |
kdpeters |
Jan-27-08 06:13 PM |
#170 |
| -
The simple fact that the use of Clintons, plural, will keep her from getting elected. |
bagrman |
Jan-27-08 06:54 PM |
#171 |
| -
Taking my life in my hands, I agree with you |
Clinton Crusader |
Jan-27-08 07:10 PM |
#172 |
| -
I think it's pretty sickening too |
Time for change |
Jan-27-08 10:15 PM |
#174 |
| -
sick of Hillary bashing, too |
amborin |
Jan-27-08 10:22 PM |
#175 |
| -
I understood the Republican remarks. |
allinktup |
Jan-27-08 10:34 PM |
#179 |
| -
lwcon...Good for you |
allinktup |
Jan-27-08 10:23 PM |
#176 |
| -
Did everyone forget that Obama's mother is WHITE |
allinktup |
Jan-27-08 10:41 PM |
#180 |
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Funny, you say I am a sheep |
CaptJasHook |
Jan-27-08 10:47 PM |
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You should be "fucking" sick of both hillary and obama bashing |
still_one |
Jan-27-08 11:24 PM |
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