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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-27-08 12:07 AM
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30. Yep--doesn't surprise me. Hillary's victories are legitimate and noteworthy
no matter who supports her, and his victories (or his close losses to her) are minimized as "of course he gets the black vote" or "but latinos don't like him" or "youths like him, but remember Dean? They don't vote" or "he has trouble with older white women"--and yet, he marches on and continues to do well, despite the naysaying.
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  -New Rules: A victory isn't a victory unless a majority of white people made it happen EffieBlack  Jan-26-08 11:04 PM   #0 
  - I always like your posts Effie! nt  Sulawesi   Jan-26-08 11:09 PM   #1 
  - Thank You  SCDem   Jan-26-08 11:09 PM   #2 
  - There won't be a victory in November unless a majority of white people make it happen  kurth   Jan-26-08 11:11 PM   #3 
  - "There won't be a victory in November unless a majority of white people make it happen"  DJ13   Jan-26-08 11:13 PM   #8 
  - There won't be a victory in November unless a substantial majority of DEMOCRATS makes it happen  EffieBlack   Jan-26-08 11:15 PM   #10 
  - obamas speeches are so uplifting that  formernaderite   Jan-26-08 11:59 PM   #29 
  - If you haven't noticed yet,  Blue_Roses   Jan-26-08 11:23 PM   #18 
  - don't confuse them, Kurth  CatWoman   Jan-26-08 11:45 PM   #23 
  - No Democrat has carried the white vote since LBJ in 1964.  David__77   Jan-27-08 12:12 AM   #32 
  - Wow, that whole argument is just very offensive on a number of levels.  MADem   Jan-26-08 11:11 PM   #4 
  - It would be against DU rules to say who...cough..Herman...cough cough.  hnmnf   Jan-26-08 11:48 PM   #25 
  - I think the fear is that he's not going to be able to carry the lily-white states...  readmoreoften   Jan-26-08 11:12 PM   #5 
  - That's always the excuse used to keep blacks from full opportunity  EffieBlack   Jan-26-08 11:19 PM   #15 
     - seems to me it's ignorant masses who keep making the excuses  CatWoman   Jan-26-08 11:46 PM   #24 
  - exactly!!!!!! nt  Truth Hurts A Lot   Jan-26-08 11:13 PM   #6 
  - K&R  Bright Eyes   Jan-26-08 11:13 PM   #7 
  - I agree 100% Effie  Bullet1987   Jan-26-08 11:14 PM   #9 
  - Clinton didn't get a majority of White votes, either. n/t  HooptieWagon   Jan-26-08 11:16 PM   #11 
  - I mentioned this marginalizing attitude  sandnsea   Jan-26-08 11:17 PM   #12 
  - Or how about if blacks vote mostly for a white candidate...  knowledgeispwr   Jan-26-08 11:17 PM   #13 
  - Exactly  EffieBlack   Jan-26-08 11:23 PM   #19 
  - And a 'win' for Obama isn't the second coming of Christ either.  1corona4u   Jan-26-08 11:17 PM   #14 
  - Why is "win" in quotes? Are you saying it isn't a legitimate win?  David__77   Jan-27-08 12:14 AM   #33 
  - They keep moving the goalpost!  FrenchieCat   Jan-26-08 11:21 PM   #16 
  - Thank you EffieBlack  tammywammy   Jan-26-08 11:22 PM   #17 
  - NO, Those Are The OLD RULES !!! Some of us have moved onto the new ones  Tulkas   Jan-26-08 11:23 PM   #20 
  - It's pretty awful. Some people are looking to belittle Obama's accomplishments  wienerdoggie   Jan-26-08 11:35 PM   #21 
  - Check out this conversation  EffieBlack   Jan-26-08 11:53 PM   #28 
     - Yep--doesn't surprise me. Hillary's victories are legitimate and noteworthy  wienerdoggie   Jan-27-08 12:07 AM   #30 
     - and transparent, except for those who's eyes are shut tight!  FrenchieCat   Jan-27-08 12:09 AM   #31 
  - A mild dose of statistics is helpful at times like these  PurityOfEssence   Jan-26-08 11:41 PM   #22 
  - Lets just talk about Iowa 2% Black and Clinton comes in 3rd  Tulkas   Jan-26-08 11:49 PM   #26 
  - They don't want to talk about that.....  FrenchieCat   Jan-27-08 04:37 AM   #34 
  - 20 pt win over Obama? NOT  angee_is_mad   Jan-26-08 11:53 PM   #27 
  - It's shameful spin. Especially coming from a former Democratic President.  krkaufman   Jan-27-08 10:33 PM   #35 
 

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