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| -Obama: "I need you to grab Cousin Pookie to vote. I need you to get Ray-Ray to vote." |
journalist3072 |
Jan-26-08 09:25 AM |
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The charlatan at work |
kurth |
Jan-26-08 09:26 AM |
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oh good, I'm glad to see the Hilary camp is so mature |
Teaser |
Jan-26-08 09:30 AM |
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If Hillary had said, "Go grab 'Bubba' and get him to vote" |
jasmine621 |
Jan-26-08 11:41 AM |
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I've never heard that before |
seasonedblue |
Jan-26-08 09:28 AM |
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That's his sick way of trying to connect to the Black masses in SC....And it plays right into the |
journalist3072 |
Jan-26-08 09:31 AM |
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He probably thought he was being funny. Elitists talking down to the |
durrrty libby |
Jan-26-08 09:38 AM |
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Thanks, |
seasonedblue |
Jan-26-08 09:40 AM |
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Just as he disgraced Black America during the debate with the dance comment. |
MS Liberal |
Jan-26-08 09:52 AM |
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What dance comment? NT |
Eric J in MN |
Jan-26-08 01:28 PM |
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Tim Russert asked Barack how he felt about Bill Clinton being called the "First Black President" by |
in_cog_ni_to |
Jan-26-08 10:15 PM |
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Thanks. |
Eric J in MN |
Jan-26-08 10:30 PM |
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Yes and it was very funny. |
in_cog_ni_to |
Jan-27-08 11:42 AM |
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I don't know a single person in "Black America" who was "disgraced" by that comment |
EffieBlack |
Jan-26-08 10:43 PM |
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I've heard blacks and whites named/nicknamed "pookie" and "ray-ray" |
knowledgeispwr |
Jan-26-08 10:23 AM |
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I am African American and it is not "playing " to anything |
goclark |
Jan-26-08 11:57 AM |
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Impersonating the Southern guy....he thinks he can't possibly be phony |
robbedvoter |
Jan-26-08 09:28 AM |
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That impersonating the Southern guy? |
ellacott |
Jan-26-08 09:33 AM |
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Wow! |
Blue State Native |
Jan-26-08 09:29 AM |
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Let us not forget the "southern drawl" Hillary somehow had |
oviedodem |
Jan-26-08 09:29 AM |
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Obama sounds like he's in church..gimme a break |
KennedyGuy |
Jan-26-08 09:31 AM |
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running for president or High Priest? nt |
msongs |
Jan-26-08 10:02 AM |
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Hillary did it. Hillary did it too. Hillary did it. Hillary did it too. Hillary did it. |
MassDemm |
Jan-26-08 09:31 AM |
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Well, she did! |
Nedsdag |
Jan-26-08 09:43 AM |
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Think much? |
ClericJohnPreston |
Jan-26-08 09:46 AM |
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You do know that old Negro Sprituals were written in dialect, don't you? |
MethuenProgressive |
Jan-26-08 09:47 AM |
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Why did she have to read it like that? |
Nedsdag |
Jan-26-08 10:01 AM |
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Why did she quote the lyric as sung? |
MethuenProgressive |
Jan-26-08 10:05 AM |
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Maybe she shouldn't have mentioned it at all. |
Nedsdag |
Jan-26-08 10:31 AM |
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Her speech was welcomed with applause from the congregation. Who cares that FOX and you "diss" her? |
MethuenProgressive |
Jan-26-08 10:35 AM |
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Jan-26-08 10:40 AM |
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Wow...get a grip. |
Zodiak Ironfist |
Jan-26-08 09:51 AM |
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I disagree, very accurate summation of the entire anti-Clinton spin on this issue. |
MethuenProgressive |
Jan-26-08 10:36 AM |
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And some pander better than others. n/t |
RoveRage |
Jan-26-08 09:32 AM |
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She was quoting lyrics from an old Negro Spiritual - you wanted her to change the words? |
MethuenProgressive |
Jan-26-08 09:45 AM |
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And let's not forget how both Obama and Oprah |
1corona4u |
Jan-26-08 11:06 AM |
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For a minute there it seemed Oprah would break into a Missy Elliot number and "get her hair-DID". |
CyberPieHole |
Jan-26-08 11:55 AM |
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Exactly....that what I thought when I saw it.... |
1corona4u |
Jan-26-08 03:49 PM |
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A self hating black man. |
Radical Activist |
Jan-26-08 09:30 AM |
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First of all, I am not a Black man. I'm a black woman. And you're telling me I'm self-hating just |
journalist3072 |
Jan-26-08 09:34 AM |
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I read that you're a woman. My comment wasn't directed at you. |
Radical Activist |
Jan-26-08 09:37 AM |
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"I don't engage in blind loyalty or group think" - sheer comedy genius. n/t |
burythehatchet |
Jan-26-08 10:08 AM |
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How is that "sheer comedy genius?" I'm saying I'm not going to blindly follow behind the black |
journalist3072 |
Jan-26-08 10:13 AM |
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Jan-26-08 10:33 AM |
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And you should be commended for your decision. |
1corona4u |
Jan-26-08 11:11 AM |
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Sadly, that doesn't surprise me. I believe that sentiment is very previlent in my community right |
journalist3072 |
Jan-26-08 11:20 AM |
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The funny thing is... |
1corona4u |
Jan-26-08 11:37 AM |
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Same here...I'll admit I got caught up, after his speech at the 2004 DNC |
journalist3072 |
Jan-26-08 12:07 PM |
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in case you hadnt noticed Obama does not have exclusive rights over AA voters |
sunonmars |
Jan-26-08 09:30 AM |
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Its the "look at me I'm black" .."wait, don't call me black" strategy |
KennedyGuy |
Jan-26-08 09:30 AM |
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yet another classic! It's how the Clintons got to be guilty - nifty, non? |
robbedvoter |
Jan-26-08 09:38 AM |
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Just who *did* let the dogs out? |
AchtungToddler |
Jan-26-08 09:31 AM |
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He didn't mention le-le. |
The_Casual_Observer |
Jan-26-08 09:31 AM |
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That's why you add "nem". |
Chovexani |
Jan-26-08 10:55 AM |
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that would be called a joke |
Magic Rat |
Jan-26-08 09:32 AM |
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A "joke" which just happens to play into racial stereotypes...and the perception that |
journalist3072 |
Jan-26-08 09:35 AM |
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That's the stereotype? That people know people? |
alcibiades_mystery |
Jan-26-08 09:37 AM |
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people with certain kinds of names - yeah. I've seen South vs North threads on DU |
robbedvoter |
Jan-26-08 09:56 AM |
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I guess one can't account for generalized stupidity |
alcibiades_mystery |
Jan-26-08 12:19 PM |
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if people laugh with it |
Magic Rat |
Jan-26-08 09:58 AM |
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Would it be a joke if Edwards or Clinton said that? |
MATTMAN |
Jan-26-08 12:01 PM |
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oh please ... |
cloudythescribbler |
Jan-26-08 09:32 AM |
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I'm sure Obama was joking when he said that |
Truth Hurts A Lot |
Jan-26-08 09:32 AM |
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The Hillarities pretend to lose all humor when Obama speaks |
alcibiades_mystery |
Jan-26-08 09:39 AM |
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Just like his joke on "John" was a groaner, this is too - if a joke indeed |
robbedvoter |
Jan-26-08 09:39 AM |
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If she had responded "He sure likes watermelon and fried chicken", it would be a joke, too. Right? |
Ravy |
Jan-26-08 09:42 AM |
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No, that's different. |
Truth Hurts A Lot |
Jan-26-08 10:00 AM |
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Well, as a white male who can't dance all that well, and as the butt of that |
Ravy |
Jan-26-08 10:34 AM |
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He and the crowd were laughing when he said it. |
Pirate Smile |
Jan-26-08 09:51 AM |
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until he hammed it out too ling with "...and John". Embarrassing silence ensued. |
robbedvoter |
Jan-26-08 09:58 AM |
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I was talking about the Pookie and Ray-Ray comment. |
Pirate Smile |
Jan-26-08 10:01 AM |
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I didn't see that part. I wonder if it's on youtube? nt |
Truth Hurts A Lot |
Jan-26-08 10:02 AM |
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As opposed to this: |
Starbucks Anarchist |
Jan-26-08 09:32 AM |
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Hillary was worse in that it is DIRECT pandering and sounded |
oviedodem |
Jan-26-08 09:35 AM |
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Give me the barf bucket, NOW! |
hisownpetard |
Jan-26-08 09:51 AM |
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that was cringe-inducing |
Magic Rat |
Jan-26-08 09:35 AM |
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Hillary: "Ah don' feel no ways taahed..." |
Bonobo |
Jan-26-08 09:37 AM |
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She's quoting an old Negro spiritual. Why do you mock African American culture? |
MethuenProgressive |
Jan-26-08 10:38 AM |
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And Obama is tapping into AA vernacular and culture. |
Starbucks Anarchist |
Jan-26-08 10:39 AM |
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Jan-26-08 10:50 AM |
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Jan-26-08 11:10 AM |
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Jan-26-08 12:01 PM |
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I have a cousin Ray-Ray and I'm white |
MediaBabe |
Jan-26-08 09:39 AM |
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I guess you should call him "Raymond-Raymond" instead. |
knowledgeispwr |
Jan-26-08 09:54 AM |
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Aww.... I'm sure if he didn't make that totally innocuous comment you would have supported him too.. |
jefferson_dem |
Jan-26-08 09:39 AM |
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... |
cooolandrew |
Jan-26-08 09:40 AM |
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.... |
cooolandrew |
Jan-26-08 09:41 AM |
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Jan-26-08 09:42 AM |
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Hey, I can feign outrage, too! Why wouldn't he want every last person |
babylonsister |
Jan-26-08 09:42 AM |
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he is attempting to appeal to black voters--can you imagine if Clinton tried that with females? |
Evergreen Emerald |
Jan-26-08 09:43 AM |
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*Sniff* |
chascarrillo |
Jan-26-08 09:52 AM |
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look her tearing up was genuine. |
Evergreen Emerald |
Jan-26-08 09:57 AM |
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YOU BEAT ME TO IT |
incapsulated |
Jan-26-08 12:12 PM |
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For a journalist, you sure have a tin ear. |
sfexpat2000 |
Jan-26-08 09:44 AM |
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Yawn |
BlueDogDemocratNH |
Jan-26-08 09:47 AM |
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So when a Black candidate speaks to Black audiences he is not supposed to get . . . |
wndycty |
Jan-26-08 09:47 AM |
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It was a joke. |
sfexpat2000 |
Jan-26-08 09:49 AM |
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Those are SOUTHERN stereotypes, not BLACK ones |
Seen the light |
Jan-26-08 09:48 AM |
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I have to agree... |
knowledgeispwr |
Jan-26-08 09:57 AM |
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I wonder if Hillary had urged folks to bring "Jim Bob, Billy Ray or Bubba" to the polls |
KoKo01 |
Jan-26-08 10:21 AM |
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"Sense of humor" meet "Clinton supporter" |
goodhue |
Jan-26-08 09:50 AM |
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No kidding. Look at all the humorlessness on this thread. |
sfexpat2000 |
Jan-26-08 10:02 AM |
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Bad news for Obama: Cousin Pookie is a big pissed off gay man who says he's not |
mondo joe |
Jan-26-08 09:50 AM |
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LOL! But you're voting for HIlly |
cali |
Jan-26-08 10:04 AM |
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Cali, do you realy think sharing a stage at someone else's invitation is |
mondo joe |
Jan-26-08 10:09 AM |
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I am sure it was meant as a joke, but in print it is disgusting |
Yael |
Jan-26-08 09:51 AM |
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why? |
cali |
Jan-26-08 09:53 AM |
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I don't think so... |
knowledgeispwr |
Jan-26-08 09:56 AM |
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Mission Accomplished. n/t |
sfexpat2000 |
Jan-26-08 09:55 AM |
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Personally, I like what he said... |
Window |
Jan-26-08 09:56 AM |
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Obama has a great sense of humor and his audiences connect with it. |
sfexpat2000 |
Jan-26-08 09:59 AM |
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Exactly, sfexpat2000. |
Window |
Jan-26-08 11:25 AM |
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Of course Pooky is a black stereotype. It means a lazy good-for-nothing black person. |
Maribelle |
Jan-26-08 09:57 AM |
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That's not true... |
knowledgeispwr |
Jan-26-08 10:00 AM |
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I argue that black vernacular in Alabama uses Pooky as the stereotypical lazy one. |
Maribelle |
Jan-26-08 10:15 AM |
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Well I guess it just goes to show you that black vernacular isn't universal |
knowledgeispwr |
Jan-26-08 10:29 AM |
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Surprise, surprise. That looks to be FALSE |
cali |
Jan-26-08 10:01 AM |
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"Of course Pooky is a black stereotype. It means a lazy good-for-nothing black person" |
Clinton Crusader |
Jan-26-08 10:07 AM |
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Well, that's the mild version. It also means the black male bed hopper that does nothing else. |
Maribelle |
Jan-26-08 10:19 AM |
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He's fixed, so he ain't doin' much bed hoppin', lol. thx. n/t |
Clinton Crusader |
Jan-26-08 02:49 PM |
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Pooky is Garfield's teddy bear. |
Scurrilous |
Jan-26-08 10:20 AM |
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That depends on how old the teddy bear is. |
Maribelle |
Jan-26-08 10:28 AM |
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Coming from a predominately black inner city... |
Journalgrrl |
Jan-26-08 10:02 AM |
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What does getting out the vote have to do with helping people in need? |
sfexpat2000 |
Jan-26-08 10:05 AM |
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Obama wasn't born with a silver spoon in his mouth nt |
Truth Hurts A Lot |
Jan-26-08 10:06 AM |
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How is he in touch? Allow me to educate you. Obama worked |
cali |
Jan-26-08 10:08 AM |
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Yeah, I've noticed that a couple times on the campaign, especially in the last debate. n/t |
Infinite Hope |
Jan-26-08 10:04 AM |
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Get out of here - he said THAT?!? |
polichick |
Jan-26-08 10:08 AM |
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since when are "pookie" and "ray ray" racially identified? |
cali |
Jan-26-08 10:09 AM |
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Spend some time in the South... |
polichick |
Jan-26-08 10:13 AM |
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coming from |
cali |
Jan-26-08 10:18 AM |
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oooh, touched a nerve ... |
polichick |
Jan-26-08 10:23 AM |
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Don't let her get you down. I take it as a badge of courage. She's called me cupcake at 20 times. |
MassDemm |
Jan-26-08 10:26 AM |
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Every board has one like cali... |
polichick |
Jan-26-08 10:31 AM |
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Dasani and Aquafina, too. n/t |
rucky |
Jan-26-08 10:12 AM |
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Of course those are stereotype names |
LizW |
Jan-26-08 10:18 AM |
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There's no evidence that those are stereotype names- not in this thread |
cali |
Jan-26-08 10:19 AM |
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Except that they ARE |
LizW |
Jan-26-08 10:27 AM |
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In HillaryWorld. n/t |
sfexpat2000 |
Jan-26-08 10:56 AM |
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FWIW |
seasonedblue |
Jan-26-08 10:32 AM |
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Interesting. It's a fairly common reference. You can't go to a comedy |
Truth Hurts A Lot |
Jan-26-08 10:38 AM |
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I 've never heard it used before, |
seasonedblue |
Jan-26-08 10:42 AM |
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The question is WHY did he use that term. |
MyPetRock |
Jan-26-08 10:44 AM |
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He was making fun of the "race" card. |
sfexpat2000 |
Jan-26-08 10:55 AM |
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"it turns out, in his use of Pookie, Obama reveals something about himself." Wow... |
MethuenProgressive |
Jan-26-08 10:41 AM |
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To be fair, |
seasonedblue |
Jan-26-08 10:44 AM |
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Yup, you're very right, and are being quite fair. |
MethuenProgressive |
Jan-26-08 10:54 AM |
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Just posted an OP on this. " Can Pookie (& Nay-Nay) Get Some Love?" |
goldcanyonaz |
Jan-26-08 10:46 AM |
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Thanks, I didn't see your thread, |
seasonedblue |
Jan-26-08 10:52 AM |
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Lighten up ! |
Laura PackYourBags |
Jan-26-08 10:44 AM |
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Oh come on now |
Chovexani |
Jan-26-08 10:53 AM |
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Those names sound like my white southern relatives' names |
senseandsensibility |
Jan-26-08 11:00 AM |
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Or pretend he's from the South |
robbedvoter |
Jan-26-08 11:17 AM |
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Is Obama from Southern~Hawaii? n/t |
CyberPieHole |
Jan-26-08 11:58 AM |
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What the hell is "pookie" and "ray ray" |
forsberg |
Jan-26-08 11:17 AM |
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"Pookie" is a term of endearment. "Sweetie," "honey," "sugarpop," etc. |
indie_ana_500 |
Jan-26-08 11:46 AM |
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A "kind of layabout kin who, if endearing, is also a source of some embarrassment and consternation" |
MethuenProgressive |
Jan-26-08 11:53 AM |
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***W.O.R.M. ALERT! W.O.R.M. ALERT!W.O.R.M. ALERT!******(on many answers) |
robbedvoter |
Jan-26-08 12:10 PM |
#145 |
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please |
angie_love |
Jan-26-08 12:21 PM |
#148 |
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Take away Race and what else has he got? |
girl_interrupted |
Jan-26-08 12:27 PM |
#149 |
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Prove to me that Hillary played |
Andromeda |
Jan-26-08 10:37 PM |
#162 |
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Sad. |
H2O Man |
Jan-26-08 12:29 PM |
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You are WAY off base. I saw Obama give a speech when he was running for IL senate |
MoJoWorkin |
Jan-26-08 01:21 PM |
#151 |
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"Take us ALL forward"??? You mean everyone EXCEPT the LGBTQ community... |
CyberPieHole |
Jan-26-08 02:13 PM |
#155 |
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Obama has been manipulating |
Andromeda |
Jan-26-08 10:28 PM |
#160 |
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He said this back in January of last YEAR |
BringBigDogBack |
Jan-26-08 01:23 PM |
#152 |
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So you're saying he didn't say it today? |
Bluebear |
Jan-26-08 02:05 PM |
#154 |
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It's a sad state to see the Dems... |
WyldRogue |
Jan-26-08 04:09 PM |
#158 |
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