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Sat Jan-26-08 08:51 AM
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it's selective, and your point is well taken, but it's simply mind boggling that someone is finally saying the words to the media that we've always wished we'd hear, and because it's Bill...and because he's despised in general here...it doesn't count.
Joe Biden wasn't my top choice of a candidate, but when he said the things he did on TV about Rudy Gullinie, he was my hero for saying it. Bill just LEVELED the media, saying the same things WE'VE always said about them, and all of a sudden it doesn't matter that someone...ANYONE...said it?
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| -Bill Clinton is taking on the corporate media AND the right wing propaganda machine at the same time |
mtnsnake |
Jan-26-08 08:26 AM |
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thank you, I saw the Big Dog taking the media to task, and I loved it! n/t |
Scout |
Jan-26-08 08:28 AM |
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So did I and commented about it--only to get Rudely dissed |
rodeodance |
Jan-26-08 08:30 AM |
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Kudos to you, rodeodance, for fighting the good fight against the corporate media |
mtnsnake |
Jan-26-08 08:39 AM |
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most posts downstream are not interested in your issue, Instead it is bashing |
rodeodance |
Jan-26-08 09:01 AM |
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thanks, rd |
mtnsnake |
Jan-26-08 09:08 AM |
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The Right Wing has Shrewdly |
neutron |
Jan-26-08 01:23 PM |
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Yes, they most certainly have |
mtnsnake |
Jan-26-08 01:25 PM |
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Yes, the Corporate DLC thanks you - no other can simultaneously Race and Gender bait while PRETENDIN... |
ShortnFiery |
Jan-26-08 01:29 PM |
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Amen! |
Evergreen Emerald |
Jan-26-08 08:28 AM |
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Bill Clinton is lying and whining |
ProSense |
Jan-26-08 08:29 AM |
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He was not lying when he told the media to its face they are shameful |
mtnsnake |
Jan-26-08 08:33 AM |
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and why did he call them shameful? do you recall? |
Lerkfish |
Jan-26-08 08:34 AM |
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that is an abject lie |
dsc |
Jan-26-08 08:36 AM |
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I am not lying. |
Lerkfish |
Jan-26-08 08:37 AM |
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that is a different video |
dsc |
Jan-26-08 09:45 AM |
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my mistake |
Lerkfish |
Jan-26-08 10:09 AM |
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dsc is right. It's an abject lie. |
AlertLurker |
Jan-26-08 09:50 AM |
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no, I was mistaken |
Lerkfish |
Jan-26-08 10:12 AM |
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Just because you are mistaken does not make it less of a lie. |
AlertLurker |
Jan-26-08 10:50 AM |
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what I posted was NOT a lie |
Lerkfish |
Jan-26-08 11:16 AM |
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Sure, you are absolutely correct. I was just trying to be nice. |
AlertLurker |
Jan-26-08 11:46 AM |
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That's not fair |
mtnsnake |
Jan-26-08 12:14 PM |
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well, he's right about only one thing: I forgot to post the link: here it is: |
Lerkfish |
Jan-26-08 12:54 PM |
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Originally, I was referring to the M$M quote as the lie: |
AlertLurker |
Jan-26-08 12:56 PM |
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olive branch? LOL! |
Lerkfish |
Jan-26-08 12:57 PM |
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here's the link |
Lerkfish |
Jan-26-08 12:55 PM |
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oh, the 'SHAMEFUL' from big dawg to the media was SWEET SWEET. |
rodeodance |
Jan-26-08 09:02 AM |
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You're right on target with this one, Snake. |
Rock_Garden |
Jan-26-08 08:29 AM |
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Yup. Some side with the media - cuz, heh, dude, it's the Clintons! Ponies, ya know? |
robbedvoter |
Jan-26-08 08:30 AM |
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really? seems more like he's attacking Obama, but hey, what do I know? |
Lerkfish |
Jan-26-08 08:31 AM |
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its true, he took on big media this week and got mocked by many on du threads and there |
rodeodance |
Jan-26-08 08:32 AM |
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and why exactly did he take on the media? |
Lerkfish |
Jan-26-08 08:34 AM |
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He wasn't attacking Obama then. He attacked the media and the Right Wing directly. |
mtnsnake |
Jan-26-08 08:34 AM |
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whom is Bill really attacking here? media or Obama? |
Lerkfish |
Jan-26-08 08:36 AM |
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He told the media they prefer to cover race issues instead of real issues and |
robbedvoter |
Jan-26-08 08:34 AM |
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link? |
Lerkfish |
Jan-26-08 08:39 AM |
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Lerkfish, let me ask you this: Are you glad Bill shamed the media or not? |
mtnsnake |
Jan-26-08 08:41 AM |
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nice sidestep |
Lerkfish |
Jan-26-08 08:43 AM |
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Not a sidestep at all. Read the OP. |
mtnsnake |
Jan-26-08 08:44 AM |
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sidestep again. |
Lerkfish |
Jan-26-08 08:45 AM |
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He shamed them because he thinks they're shameful. Otherwise he wouldn't have told them that. |
mtnsnake |
Jan-26-08 08:56 AM |
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REC. |
rodeodance |
Jan-26-08 08:31 AM |
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Bill Clinton is the father of media concentration |
IndianaGreen |
Jan-26-08 08:31 AM |
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Changing the subject does NOT change the fact he is taking on the corporate media to their faces |
mtnsnake |
Jan-26-08 08:36 AM |
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The only one doing so, BTW! |
robbedvoter |
Jan-26-08 08:38 AM |
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That is not changing the subject -- It IS the subject |
Armstead |
Jan-26-08 08:39 AM |
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Same thing I thought. |
Blue State Native |
Jan-26-08 09:01 AM |
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blind partisanship |
Lerkfish |
Jan-26-08 11:21 AM |
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because a GOP congress voted for it? Funny how he's responsible for all the |
robbedvoter |
Jan-26-08 08:37 AM |
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are you implying that he vetoed the telcom act, and Congress over-rode his veto? /nt |
still_one |
Jan-26-08 09:06 AM |
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Amen, and it is funny that he is turning on his baby now |
MrWiggles |
Jan-26-08 08:55 AM |
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I was PO'ed by the remark from Cafferty |
bluedog |
Jan-26-08 08:36 AM |
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The big dog is a guard dog. Always has been. Always will be. Try attacking his property |
Maribelle |
Jan-26-08 08:43 AM |
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K&R |
seasonedblue |
Jan-26-08 08:36 AM |
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Where was Bill when it mattered? |
Armstead |
Jan-26-08 08:37 AM |
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Where was Bill during torture, lying about WMDs, shock and awe.... |
Lerkfish |
Jan-26-08 08:40 AM |
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Bill Clinton uses the media to get out his race-baiting message. |
Skwmom |
Jan-26-08 08:38 AM |
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"I did not feed mud to that media. That's a lie." |
Armstead |
Jan-26-08 08:41 AM |
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Fuck Bill. He's damaging our party, and you want me to feel sympathy? |
babylonsister |
Jan-26-08 08:40 AM |
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I'm just saying that because it's Bill, no one HERE seems to mind the evil media all of a sudden |
mtnsnake |
Jan-26-08 08:43 AM |
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No it's Bill's selective outrage that pisses me off |
Armstead |
Jan-26-08 08:46 AM |
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Of course |
mtnsnake |
Jan-26-08 08:51 AM |
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I'd be rah-rahing Bills shots at the media if.... |
Armstead |
Jan-26-08 08:58 AM |
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I'm not even watching CNN, so your point is lost on me. I want |
babylonsister |
Jan-26-08 08:51 AM |
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He helped provide for the mass media merges and destruction of the fairness doctrine |
still_one |
Jan-26-08 08:52 AM |
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All is fair against the Clenis! |
robbedvoter |
Jan-26-08 12:28 PM |
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how nasty! |
indimuse |
Jan-26-08 12:46 PM |
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People like Bob Herbert, Michael Crowley and many |
cali |
Jan-26-08 08:40 AM |
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JUST LEAVE BILL ALONE!!!! |
JTFrog |
Jan-26-08 08:41 AM |
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"the corporate media AND the right wing propaganda machine " |
Inuca |
Jan-26-08 08:43 AM |
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That's right. Apparently you haven't heard him speak lately. nt |
mtnsnake |
Jan-26-08 08:45 AM |
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oh, EVERYONE is hearing him speak lately |
Lerkfish |
Jan-26-08 08:46 AM |
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you may be hearing but are you COMPREHENDING his message when he takes on the media? |
rodeodance |
Jan-26-08 09:04 AM |
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But the press is twisting his words. I saw the video of this and the Daily News |
robbedvoter |
Jan-26-08 11:48 AM |
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Clinton's taking on anyone who stands in his way |
alcibiades_mystery |
Jan-26-08 08:45 AM |
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Just another DU'er who doesn't give a rats ass that Bill is taking on the corporate media |
mtnsnake |
Jan-26-08 08:47 AM |
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again, answer the question; WHY is he taking on the media? |
Lerkfish |
Jan-26-08 08:53 AM |
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I answered your question upthread. |
mtnsnake |
Jan-26-08 08:57 AM |
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Get over yourself |
alcibiades_mystery |
Jan-26-08 09:03 AM |
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MSM is suddenly popular on DU as they coddle one candidate. Only Rush still |
robbedvoter |
Jan-26-08 08:48 AM |
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he helped create it with the telecommunication act of the 90's which he signed |
still_one |
Jan-26-08 08:50 AM |
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Someone else already beat you to it upthread, but thanks for changing the subject |
mtnsnake |
Jan-26-08 08:59 AM |
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"crucifying" him for enabling the very thing that he is speaking against |
still_one |
Jan-26-08 09:04 AM |
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KEY DEMS TELL BILL CLINTON TO STOP OBAMA ATTACKS |
JTFrog |
Jan-26-08 08:51 AM |
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Too bad he's no running for office. Oh, yeah. He is. nt |
Bonobo |
Jan-26-08 08:56 AM |
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He's not taking on the media. He's using the media, as he's always |
pdxmom |
Jan-26-08 08:59 AM |
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What world do you live in? |
mtnsnake |
Jan-26-08 09:02 AM |
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Saying "shame on you" isn't taking on the media. That was getting |
pdxmom |
Jan-26-08 09:07 AM |
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Good gawd as if that's all he said. I suppose it was his dummy who blasted them for not covering |
mtnsnake |
Jan-26-08 09:11 AM |
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Please! Bill was playing another one of his games. I'm not |
Kahuna |
Jan-26-08 09:01 AM |
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Are you saying he didn't take on the media?? |
mtnsnake |
Jan-26-08 09:04 AM |
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Bill Clinton is trying to do the typical repuke tactic of, LOOK OVER THERE!.. |
Kahuna |
Jan-26-08 09:51 AM |
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The "progressives" on DU would rather vote to lose. |
The_Casual_Observer |
Jan-26-08 09:04 AM |
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Some may be Clinton bashers, but do you think it might be their policies and votes? |
still_one |
Jan-26-08 09:13 AM |
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Didn't you hear? Both parties are the same. |
The_Casual_Observer |
Jan-26-08 09:18 AM |
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Yes, there are some issues that differentiate both parties, but with lobbyists |
still_one |
Jan-26-08 09:31 AM |
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I though Clinton was the most progressive candidate |
Lerkfish |
Jan-26-08 10:11 AM |
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Craig Crawford on MSNBC: media has mental illness about the Clintons. |
rodeodance |
Jan-26-08 09:07 AM |
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Bill Clinton is no victim and no saint. If you actually read up on |
Bread and Circus |
Jan-26-08 09:07 AM |
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I've seen you in numerous threads telling posters to read up on the issues |
mtnsnake |
Jan-26-08 09:55 AM |
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Jan-26-08 01:48 PM |
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No Bill |
southern_dem |
Jan-26-08 09:10 AM |
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"Whine", "two-faced"? |
Zodiak Ironfist |
Jan-26-08 09:11 AM |
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It's as two-faced as it gets |
mtnsnake |
Jan-26-08 09:14 AM |
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Find someone here who says the media is fine |
Zodiak Ironfist |
Jan-26-08 10:04 AM |
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That's my point, Zodiak. No one here DOES think the media is fine |
mtnsnake |
Jan-26-08 10:08 AM |
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Well, I'm not backing him up. |
Zodiak Ironfist |
Jan-26-08 10:22 AM |
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You explained your reasons nice enough |
mtnsnake |
Jan-26-08 10:34 AM |
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That we can |
Zodiak Ironfist |
Jan-26-08 10:39 AM |
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Jeez, more whining from the Clintons. |
sniffa |
Jan-26-08 09:47 AM |
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Only you could interpret someone taking on the entire media as being "spineless" |
mtnsnake |
Jan-26-08 09:50 AM |
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Only you would interpret Clinton trying to move the goal post as taking |
Kahuna |
Jan-26-08 09:53 AM |
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Of course it's silly to you. |
mtnsnake |
Jan-26-08 09:56 AM |
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'Obama is out to get me, and you guys won't report it..' Give me a |
Kahuna |
Jan-26-08 10:00 AM |
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Even the Clinton naysayers won't agree with you that he said anything of the sort |
mtnsnake |
Jan-26-08 10:04 AM |
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Jan-26-08 10:27 AM |
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Only you could defend the Clintons' pathetic whining. |
sniffa |
Jan-26-08 09:55 AM |
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Nope. other people remember the big picture too. Even you will . Soon. |
robbedvoter |
Jan-26-08 10:05 AM |
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Where was he when Kerry was getting swiftboated? |
vssmith |
Jan-26-08 10:15 AM |
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Doing nothing so that Kerry could lose. That way Hillary could run in '08. |
Kahuna |
Jan-26-08 10:31 AM |
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brilliant! |
Lerkfish |
Jan-26-08 11:17 AM |
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Where was Kerry? And where is my 2004 vote? |
robbedvoter |
Jan-26-08 11:49 AM |
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Kerry couldn't even stick up for himself, so Bill gets blamed for not being his babysitter |
mtnsnake |
Jan-26-08 12:03 PM |
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Yup. "they'll say we are crybabies" was more important to Kerry than my vote |
robbedvoter |
Jan-26-08 12:41 PM |
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THanks for the post mtnsnake! |
indimuse |
Jan-26-08 12:30 PM |
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haha, my pleasure! |
mtnsnake |
Jan-26-08 12:50 PM |
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Fuck Bill Clinton |
SecularNATION |
Jan-26-08 01:15 PM |
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Jan-26-08 01:24 PM |
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Good question |
mtnsnake |
Jan-26-08 01:31 PM |
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Bill Clinton is now behaving like a shameless horse's ass. Time to drag your bloated "big dawg" |
ShortnFiery |
Jan-26-08 01:20 PM |
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You sound exactly like a rightwing Republican with the hatred you always spew toward our Dems |
mtnsnake |
Jan-26-08 01:36 PM |
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Edwards supporter here agreeing with you 100%!. . .n/t |
annabanana |
Jan-26-08 01:26 PM |
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thanks, annabanana |
mtnsnake |
Jan-26-08 01:39 PM |
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yep |
AJH032 |
Jan-26-08 01:47 PM |
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Bill Clinton helped to create the corporate media... |
B Calm |
Jan-26-08 01:49 PM |
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deregulating FCC rules on ownership has created the situation we now have |
Lerkfish |
Jan-26-08 03:45 PM |
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What a hero |
killbotfactory |
Jan-26-08 03:47 PM |
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Hypocrisy doesn't bother some DUers. It's about blooding the opponent, Democrat or not. |
Kerry2008 |
Jan-26-08 03:52 PM |
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Agreed |
HughMoran |
Jan-26-08 03:54 PM |
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