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Fri Jan-25-08 05:26 PM
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| 35. As a senator in a red state |
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you have to represent all people in the state. It's not the same as being a senator in a liberal state like Wisconsin, or Vermont where we have a socialist senator that Republicans vote for too.
Edwards is free from that senatorial role, so he can be himself. I'm sure he's undergone a transformation too, but Two Americas in 2004 was a populist message. What would Russ say about that? Or what did he say about it in 2004? Two Americas is even more relevant in 2008. There's only one populist representing the people in this race and it's Edwards. The other two are corporatists.
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| -Feingold Rips Edwards Again |
inna |
Jan-25-08 04:37 PM |
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feingold has no room to speak |
fenriswolf |
Jan-25-08 04:39 PM |
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An amazing amount of courage for someone |
Mythsaje |
Jan-25-08 04:41 PM |
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Yep, Feingold Is Being Cowardly |
iamjoy |
Jan-25-08 05:20 PM |
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What was cowardly was Edwards's co-sponsorship of the IWR |
ih8thegop |
Jan-25-08 05:38 PM |
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His ego is bruised. The national spotlight isn't on him |
Yael |
Jan-25-08 05:55 PM |
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That's kinda why I don't support Edwards. Russ nails it. |
wienerdoggie |
Jan-25-08 04:41 PM |
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I agree with you |
democrat2thecore |
Jan-25-08 04:44 PM |
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Russ is my Senator |
Obama_for_our_future |
Jan-25-08 07:06 PM |
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And after he endorses Corporate Whore 1 or Corporate Whore 2, he can flush his... |
ToeBot |
Jan-25-08 07:37 PM |
#89 |
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It sounded like he would endorse neither |
Obama_for_our_future |
Jan-25-08 08:04 PM |
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"Talk is cheap." |
depakid |
Jan-26-08 12:15 AM |
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That's exactly why I don't support Edwards, despite him talking the best game by far. |
Occam Bandage |
Jan-25-08 05:00 PM |
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BUT! America is FRICKIN' TIRED of the "Trust Me!" line other candidates give! |
calipendence |
Jan-25-08 05:06 PM |
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And Edwards doesn't use the "trust me" line? |
GreenArrow |
Jan-25-08 05:13 PM |
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There's a difference... |
calipendence |
Jan-25-08 05:23 PM |
#31 |
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It's six of one and half a dozen of the other. |
GreenArrow |
Jan-25-08 05:47 PM |
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I also might have "liked" Nancy Pelosi for the 2006 election, but look where that would have got me! |
calipendence |
Jan-25-08 06:03 PM |
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sure likability is only one part of it |
GreenArrow |
Jan-25-08 09:07 PM |
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If you don't trust any of them then WHO do you vote for? |
calipendence |
Jan-25-08 09:41 PM |
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I hold my nose and vote for the one I distrust the least |
GreenArrow |
Jan-26-08 11:27 AM |
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The Corporatocracy has you well trained. |
calipendence |
Jan-26-08 12:53 PM |
#146 |
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"The Corporatocracy has you well trained" |
GreenArrow |
Jan-26-08 09:23 PM |
#154 |
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You are wrong. |
JDPriestly |
Jan-25-08 10:03 PM |
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I'm wrong because I don't trust Edwards? So says you. |
GreenArrow |
Jan-26-08 11:12 AM |
#144 |
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I read up on him too, all 3 of them |
jbnow |
Jan-26-08 05:04 PM |
#150 |
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Obama is the only one of the three I'm considering |
GreenArrow |
Jan-26-08 09:18 PM |
#153 |
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Edwards is all talk, look at his actions if you want to know the man. nt |
2rth2pwr |
Jan-25-08 10:24 PM |
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You wouldn't support Gore, either, then? (nt) |
redqueen |
Jan-25-08 05:24 PM |
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I voted for Gore in 2000, but he didn't thrill me that much. I didn't really |
wienerdoggie |
Jan-25-08 05:57 PM |
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Thank you! |
redqueen |
Jan-25-08 05:59 PM |
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No problem-- |
wienerdoggie |
Jan-25-08 06:01 PM |
#62 |
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You know what? |
springhill |
Jan-26-08 02:06 AM |
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Same here |
7 of 11 |
Jan-26-08 09:47 AM |
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something smells about this. |
ulysses |
Jan-25-08 04:42 PM |
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Thank you! I don't get how so many can miss this most obvious and HUGE disconnect. |
redqueen |
Jan-25-08 04:43 PM |
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He also voted to confirm Roberts. |
JDPriestly |
Jan-25-08 10:07 PM |
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Absolutely. Russ has to realize that this makes him look really petty |
jgraz |
Jan-25-08 04:45 PM |
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I wondered the same about Kucinich. |
ozone_man |
Jan-25-08 05:18 PM |
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It's been pretty obvious |
Andy823 |
Jan-25-08 05:34 PM |
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Feingold no doubt wants a cabinet appointment |
OzarkDem |
Jan-25-08 05:35 PM |
#43 |
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1993. He's been in the Senate since 1993. |
PeaceNikki |
Jan-25-08 08:40 PM |
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He's also changed a lot |
OzarkDem |
Jan-25-08 09:19 PM |
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This smells sort of like the endorsements that Barbara Boxer was asking us to support... |
calipendence |
Jan-25-08 06:08 PM |
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Russ is right. We would be lucky to have him as VP or president. |
Alexander |
Jan-25-08 04:43 PM |
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Wellstone voted for the PATRIOT Act. |
redqueen |
Jan-25-08 04:44 PM |
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I believe that if Wellstone would have lived he'd be running for President right now |
INdemo |
Jan-25-08 05:00 PM |
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And I'm sure he'd have admitted his mistake on the PATRIOT Act... |
redqueen |
Jan-25-08 05:02 PM |
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I'd have worked my ass off for him if he'd run. |
ulysses |
Jan-25-08 04:52 PM |
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Would have worked for my fellow Tar Heel. |
unc70 |
Jan-25-08 05:11 PM |
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I have enormous respect for Russ Feingold. He debunks the sunny Edwards persona. |
Diane R |
Jan-25-08 04:44 PM |
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That's right. Edwards is a wild eyed populist who isn't going to take no for answer taking care of |
avaistheone1 |
Jan-25-08 04:49 PM |
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Such as at Fortress? |
Occam Bandage |
Jan-25-08 05:01 PM |
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Edwards did nothing wrong at Fortress |
avaistheone1 |
Jan-25-08 09:05 PM |
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I know, he took that job so he could learn about poverty. |
2rth2pwr |
Jan-25-08 10:26 PM |
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Thanks, Russ. |
Cant trust em |
Jan-25-08 04:50 PM |
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it takes courage to change |
judaspriestess |
Jan-25-08 04:53 PM |
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Edwards displayed a lack of judgment, especially when he |
slipslidingaway |
Jan-25-08 05:18 PM |
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Gore has done the same or worse, no? |
redqueen |
Jan-25-08 05:25 PM |
#34 |
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Pushing to invade another nation that could not attack us? |
slipslidingaway |
Jan-25-08 06:06 PM |
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Did Gore speak out against the IWR when it was being debated? |
redqueen |
Jan-25-08 06:10 PM |
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Yes......Al Gore - September 23, 2002 |
slipslidingaway |
Jan-25-08 08:00 PM |
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Thanks slip... I actually found that out in my own thread... |
redqueen |
Jan-25-08 08:24 PM |
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YW and my thoughts... |
slipslidingaway |
Jan-25-08 09:03 PM |
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point taken but you are narrowing it down to one single issue |
judaspriestess |
Jan-25-08 05:34 PM |
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That was one example of poor judgment , a very big one. To say |
slipslidingaway |
Jan-25-08 06:17 PM |
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yes and |
druidity33 |
Jan-25-08 06:32 PM |
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I guess if Russ had his way |
bluethruandthru |
Jan-25-08 04:54 PM |
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Thats' what I'M talkin' about! |
Sweet Pea |
Jan-25-08 04:54 PM |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Jan-25-08 05:02 PM |
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I agree. Not sure what's up Russ's butt... Maybe someone promised |
glowing |
Jan-25-08 05:39 PM |
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VP Potentials? |
Sweet Pea |
Jan-26-08 08:19 AM |
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Um, let's not call each other names. |
MaggieSwanson |
Jan-26-08 04:50 AM |
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Feingold is saying that, in his belief, Edwards is "for the people" |
slipslidingaway |
Jan-25-08 05:08 PM |
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Then WHAT is his solution? Vote someone that is honestly NOT on our side? |
calipendence |
Jan-25-08 05:15 PM |
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I do not know what he would think the solution is, I can say that |
slipslidingaway |
Jan-25-08 05:54 PM |
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As a senator in a red state |
ozone_man |
Jan-25-08 05:26 PM |
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That's a good point, and also the same rationale Obama's backers have given me |
redqueen |
Jan-25-08 06:12 PM |
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True to some extent, Edwards said that by passing the China |
slipslidingaway |
Jan-25-08 06:30 PM |
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And a lot of those jobs came from up North first |
ozone_man |
Jan-25-08 08:10 PM |
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Well I never supported any of the top three, my comparisons |
slipslidingaway |
Jan-25-08 09:09 PM |
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Oh, I understand. |
ozone_man |
Jan-25-08 11:48 PM |
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You think Wisconsin is a "liberal state"? |
PeaceNikki |
Jan-25-08 06:55 PM |
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Compared to North Carolina it is. |
ozone_man |
Jan-25-08 08:05 PM |
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But That's Not Totally True |
iamjoy |
Jan-25-08 05:28 PM |
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There is a difference between sponsoring a bill and speaking |
slipslidingaway |
Jan-25-08 08:18 PM |
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Edwards won a tough election against a right-wing Republican in a red state. |
AdHocSolver |
Jan-25-08 06:23 PM |
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So many times the defense of one's actions is "He or she did |
slipslidingaway |
Jan-25-08 08:24 PM |
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The more Feingold bashes Edwards the more petty he looks. n/t |
BlackVelvet04 |
Jan-25-08 05:11 PM |
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Edwards' record |
jackson_dem |
Jan-25-08 05:24 PM |
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The much married and divorced Feingold is jealous that Edwards assumed the mantle he didn't have |
saracat |
Jan-25-08 05:27 PM |
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You can hit him for his jealousy without picking on his marital life. |
Heaven and Earth |
Jan-25-08 05:34 PM |
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I only mention it as it has been given as the reason he didn't run. The media would have eaten him |
saracat |
Jan-25-08 05:42 PM |
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Well, yeah, but considering the Republican freakshow |
Heaven and Earth |
Jan-25-08 05:54 PM |
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It still would have been bad.It is very nice to be able to say all our leading candidates have had |
saracat |
Jan-25-08 06:28 PM |
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hypocrite is right. |
frogmarch |
Jan-25-08 05:40 PM |
#47 |
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For anyone who is not a supporter, |
dancingAlone |
Jan-25-08 05:33 PM |
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I'm really starting to dislike Feingold |
OzarkDem |
Jan-25-08 05:34 PM |
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Russ Feingold: Telling it like it is. |
ih8thegop |
Jan-25-08 05:39 PM |
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If he were telling it like it is he would chronicle Hillary and Obama's flip flops too... |
jackson_dem |
Jan-25-08 05:41 PM |
#48 |
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Edwards portrays himself as the more progressive candidate... |
slipslidingaway |
Jan-25-08 05:59 PM |
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Damn Edwards for all his truth telling |
Mythsaje |
Jan-25-08 06:07 PM |
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Truth telling??? That is one of the problems, that he is not being |
slipslidingaway |
Jan-25-08 08:10 PM |
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Truth telling: i.e. "Corporate Greed is destroying us." |
Mythsaje |
Jan-25-08 08:34 PM |
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It also comes down to what someone is NOT saying as well... |
slipslidingaway |
Jan-25-08 09:17 PM |
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One time an error.... |
ClericJohnPreston |
Jan-25-08 05:43 PM |
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Is this the same Feingold who voted for anti-choice Bush supreme court nominee John Roberts? |
Stop Cornyn |
Jan-25-08 05:45 PM |
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That would be the one. |
Mythsaje |
Jan-25-08 06:06 PM |
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Bedmates? Puuuleeze. |
PeaceNikki |
Jan-25-08 06:13 PM |
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Although I like Feingold |
socialdemocrat1981 |
Jan-25-08 05:45 PM |
#52 |
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Russ is very clear on his votes for nominations. |
PeaceNikki |
Jan-25-08 05:53 PM |
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Ah, yes. The appeasement argument. |
Mythsaje |
Jan-25-08 06:17 PM |
#75 |
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Name one other questionable decision of Russ's - other than nominations. |
PeaceNikki |
Jan-25-08 06:43 PM |
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There probably AREN'T any more important decisions |
Mythsaje |
Jan-25-08 06:49 PM |
#85 |
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Russ needs to STFU. |
Yael |
Jan-25-08 05:53 PM |
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Feingold is a very astute observer IMHO. n/t |
Crunchy Frog |
Jan-25-08 06:02 PM |
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I trust and value his opinion a great deal. |
PeaceNikki |
Jan-25-08 06:11 PM |
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He is beginning to look like Lawrence O'Donnell |
ClericJohnPreston |
Jan-25-08 06:15 PM |
#73 |
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trust no one |
shireen |
Jan-25-08 06:21 PM |
#76 |
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I wonder if we might get a Bloomberg/Sanders independent ticket! |
calipendence |
Jan-25-08 06:24 PM |
#78 |
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Sanders is a democratic socialist |
MATTMAN |
Jan-25-08 11:21 PM |
#128 |
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I know that, but that's probably no worse than a Kucinich/Paul combination that was considered |
calipendence |
Jan-26-08 12:47 AM |
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What makes Russ think that he knows more about Edwards than DU does? |
Blue-Jay |
Jan-25-08 06:44 PM |
#83 |
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Served in the Senate with him for 6 years? |
Crunchy Frog |
Jan-26-08 12:54 AM |
#133 |
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Yes, well, if he is so much better then he should have run himself |
RestoreGore |
Jan-25-08 06:46 PM |
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I am stunned....et tu Russ? |
Catchawave |
Jan-25-08 06:52 PM |
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Edwards is a bigger flip-flopper than Hillary |
Radical Activist |
Jan-25-08 08:36 PM |
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Are you kidding me? |
ClericJohnPreston |
Jan-25-08 08:49 PM |
#102 |
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That's voting RECORD |
Radical Activist |
Jan-25-08 08:52 PM |
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I guess that's why the coal lobby wants him to help them push liquified coal! |
calipendence |
Jan-25-08 09:42 PM |
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Why does Edwards support $1 Billion in yearly subsidies to the coal industry |
Radical Activist |
Jan-25-08 10:11 PM |
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you left out most of Edwards plan. |
MATTMAN |
Jan-25-08 10:30 PM |
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There is no such thing as an operational coal plant |
Radical Activist |
Jan-25-08 10:37 PM |
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true but some scholers believe that CCS should be part of the equation. |
MATTMAN |
Jan-25-08 10:55 PM |
#124 |
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Hey Russ.... |
Catchawave |
Jan-25-08 08:44 PM |
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this will do nothing to change the minds of people who think that words speak louder than actions |
Magic Rat |
Jan-25-08 09:43 PM |
#112 |
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Feingold, unfortunately, changes his mind about his wives too frequently. |
JDPriestly |
Jan-25-08 09:54 PM |
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Wow. That was a Bush tactic. |
Radical Activist |
Jan-25-08 10:14 PM |
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I could care less about his divorces, but that is why he is not running. |
JDPriestly |
Jan-26-08 03:41 PM |
#148 |
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If you're an Edwards supporter, you do his campaign a dishonor |
sjdnb |
Jan-25-08 11:06 PM |
#127 |
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Unsavory, but true. I'd love to have Russ as President |
OnceUponTimeOnTheNet |
Jan-26-08 08:53 AM |
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True, But Let's Not Be Nasty |
iamjoy |
Jan-26-08 09:02 AM |
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A classless act by a man I had great respect for....He lessens himself when he disses progressives |
Rowdyboy |
Jan-25-08 10:16 PM |
#118 |
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disappointing! |
ursi |
Jan-25-08 10:40 PM |
#123 |
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I like Russ ... but think maybe he's regretting his decision |
sjdnb |
Jan-25-08 11:00 PM |
#125 |
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Feingold just made my shit list. FU2, Russyboy! |
Seabiscuit |
Jan-25-08 11:01 PM |
#126 |
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Our best and only hope |
Truth2Tell |
Jan-26-08 12:47 AM |
#132 |
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Feingold has a few good points |
fujiyama |
Jan-26-08 01:03 AM |
#134 |
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So how can he consider Hillary whose voting record is even worse? Hypocrit. n/t |
Infinite Hope |
Jan-26-08 09:12 AM |
#140 |
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She hasn't made copping out on her votes the centerpiece of her campaign |
robcon |
Jan-26-08 09:17 AM |
#141 |
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So it's okay to be wrong more as long as you continue to stand by it? That's what you say Feingold |
Infinite Hope |
Jan-26-08 09:39 AM |
#142 |
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I'm disappointed in Edwards, a man I thought would make a good VP in '04 |
robcon |
Jan-26-08 08:20 PM |
#152 |
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That's gotta hurt. |
AtomicKitten |
Jan-26-08 12:54 PM |
#147 |
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If Russ finds this so offensive, why isn't he running? He could be the "perfect senator" |
slick8790 |
Jan-26-08 03:45 PM |
#149 |
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He is only telling the truth.... |
PassingFair |
Jan-26-08 05:17 PM |
#151 |
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