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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-04 01:49 PM
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28. Okay, well whenever you're done splitting hairs
would you like to address my question, finally?

How can you square Kerry's or Edwards' record with their rhetoric?
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  -We Need FAIR Trade redqueen  Mar-02-04 12:54 PM   #0 
  - For anyone who believes that Kucinich is one-dimensional  maggiefaye   Mar-02-04 01:00 PM   #1 
  - My pleasure  redqueen   Mar-02-04 01:05 PM   #3 
  - kick...  Ysabel   Mar-02-04 01:00 PM   #2 
  - That's a very IMPORTANT POINT...  lams712   Mar-02-04 01:10 PM   #4 
  - Except - every candidate agrees  Feanorcurufinwe   Mar-02-04 01:14 PM   #7 
     - Then why did both Kerry and Edwards vote for trade agreements  redqueen   Mar-02-04 01:16 PM   #9 
        - Well obviously  Feanorcurufinwe   Mar-02-04 01:20 PM   #11 
           - I can give you one in particular  IrateCitizen   Mar-02-04 01:25 PM   #12 
           - Good answer  Feanorcurufinwe   Mar-02-04 01:28 PM   #14 
           - So you got your dig in,  redqueen   Mar-02-04 01:30 PM   #16 
           - I thought the answer was a good one. I didn't mean mine as a 'dig'.  Feanorcurufinwe   Mar-02-04 01:37 PM   #18 
              - No, you said that all the candidates were the same  redqueen   Mar-02-04 01:40 PM   #20 
                 - Actually I didn't say that  Feanorcurufinwe   Mar-02-04 01:43 PM   #23 
                    - Okay, well whenever you're done splitting hairs  redqueen   Mar-02-04 01:49 PM   #28 
                       - When you feel like apologizing for misrepresenting my words  Feanorcurufinwe   Mar-02-04 01:54 PM   #33 
                          - I paraphrased badly - sorry  redqueen   Mar-02-04 01:58 PM   #38 
                             - You did not paraphrase me - you misrepresented me.  Feanorcurufinwe   Mar-02-04 02:05 PM   #43 
           - I realize that honest debate has become so out of vogue...  IrateCitizen   Mar-02-04 02:01 PM   #41 
              - Another good answer.  Feanorcurufinwe   Mar-02-04 02:11 PM   #46 
                 - First off, people need to abandon their need to be right...  IrateCitizen   Mar-02-04 02:29 PM   #50 
           - Why vote for Fast-track?  sangh0   Mar-02-04 01:41 PM   #21 
              - Fast Track was passed almost exclusively for FTAA  IrateCitizen   Mar-02-04 01:47 PM   #26 
                 - The problem's not having the ability t negotiate,it's who is doing it-BUSH  Feanorcurufinwe   Mar-02-04 01:49 PM   #27 
                 - I give up  redqueen   Mar-02-04 01:51 PM   #31 
                 - Wrong. You can't craft bills based on the best-case scenario.  IrateCitizen   Mar-02-04 01:53 PM   #32 
                    - I have to agree with you here IC  sangh0   Mar-02-04 01:58 PM   #36 
                       - Yeah. It's like giving a thief the keys to your safety deposit box...  IrateCitizen   Mar-02-04 02:33 PM   #51 
                 - I understand that, and I agree with your concerns  sangh0   Mar-02-04 01:49 PM   #29 
                    - Going by the letter of the law, you're correct.  IrateCitizen   Mar-02-04 01:55 PM   #34 
                       - The law is as it is written.  Feanorcurufinwe   Mar-02-04 01:59 PM   #39 
                       - And as it's written, it's a complete pile of horseshit.  IrateCitizen   Mar-02-04 02:02 PM   #42 
                       - I may have confused you  sangh0   Mar-02-04 02:10 PM   #45 
                       - Yes, you did confuse me. And thanks for the clarification. (nt)  IrateCitizen   Mar-02-04 02:14 PM   #48 
                       - "we shouldn't have to count on Brasil and Argentina to save us"  redqueen   Mar-02-04 02:16 PM   #49 
           - There's also PNTR for China  IrateCitizen   Mar-02-04 01:26 PM   #13 
              - China is violating that agreement, as both you and Kerry point out.  Feanorcurufinwe   Mar-02-04 01:29 PM   #15 
                 - Because it bolsters corporate profit margins  IrateCitizen   Mar-02-04 01:43 PM   #24 
                    - So you agree with Kerry that those provisions should be enforced?  Feanorcurufinwe   Mar-02-04 01:47 PM   #25 
                       - I don't think you're understanding the emphasis here  IrateCitizen   Mar-02-04 01:50 PM   #30 
                          - We are talking about China specifically in this subthread.  Feanorcurufinwe   Mar-02-04 01:57 PM   #35 
  - kick because we need trade  goodhue   Mar-02-04 01:14 PM   #5 
  - It is my understanding that Kucinich supports "bilateral trade".  w4rma   Mar-02-04 01:14 PM   #6 
  - He supports 'fair trade' in bilateral agreements.  redqueen   Mar-02-04 01:15 PM   #8 
  - Not completely accurate  IrateCitizen   Mar-02-04 01:18 PM   #10 
     - As you hint at in your answer  Feanorcurufinwe   Mar-02-04 01:32 PM   #17 
        - That's a viable way of looking at it, but...  IrateCitizen   Mar-02-04 01:58 PM   #37 
  - Yes, but that doesn't mean your way is the only way  PurityOfEssence   Mar-02-04 01:38 PM   #19 
  - We've been seeing the drain on our economy for a while now  redqueen   Mar-02-04 01:41 PM   #22 
  - Yes, We Need FAIR Trade  Nederland   Mar-02-04 01:59 PM   #40 
  - Doesn't the EU require its trading partners to recognize certain standards  redqueen   Mar-02-04 02:06 PM   #44 
  - Yes it does  Nederland   Mar-02-04 03:34 PM   #56 
  - I disagree about Kucinich's stance on trade  redqueen   Mar-02-04 03:50 PM   #60 
  - Because the point is not to get other nations  Nicholas_J   Mar-02-04 05:28 PM   #75 
  - You can start with providing a floor, as opposed to a ceiling  IrateCitizen   Mar-02-04 02:14 PM   #47 
  - NAFTA does have a floor  Nederland   Mar-02-04 03:43 PM   #58 
  - I'm a Kucinich supporter and you have this all wrong.  redqueen   Mar-02-04 03:52 PM   #61 
  - Never used the term "beautiful and magnificent" (nt)  Nederland   Mar-02-04 04:41 PM   #68 
     - *sigh*  redqueen   Mar-02-04 04:43 PM   #69 
        - No  Nederland   Mar-02-04 04:53 PM   #72 
  - Env/labor only addressed through side agreements in NAFTA  IrateCitizen   Mar-02-04 03:54 PM   #63 
  - Answers  Nederland   Mar-02-04 05:08 PM   #73 
  - But we still hold the cards-- we ARE the largest economy in the world  no name no slogan   Mar-02-04 03:10 PM   #53 
     - True  Nederland   Mar-02-04 03:24 PM   #54 
        - So you assert that the reason these countries walked out  redqueen   Mar-02-04 03:31 PM   #55 
           - Exactly  Nederland   Mar-02-04 03:37 PM   #57 
              - Apples and oranges  sangh0   Mar-02-04 03:44 PM   #59 
                 - True  Nederland   Mar-02-04 03:59 PM   #65 
                    - Confused  sangh0   Mar-02-04 04:05 PM   #66 
                       - Response  Nederland   Mar-02-04 04:46 PM   #71 
  - KICK for an important topic  IrateCitizen   Mar-02-04 03:04 PM   #52 
  - We need Liberals not Neoliberals!!!!!!!!!!  corporatewhore   Mar-02-04 03:53 PM   #62 
  - We need thoughtful posts, not slogans!!!!!!!!  sangh0   Mar-02-04 03:54 PM   #64 
  - Yes, we do  tameszu   Mar-02-04 04:21 PM   #67 
  - The WTO  redqueen   Mar-02-04 04:44 PM   #70 
  - No what we need is real free trade...  Hippo_Tron   Mar-02-04 05:21 PM   #74 
 

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