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But that is the effect.
I have never in 40 years said "I refuse to vote for the Democratic candidate." Never. Very, very few ever do, and most of those were either not very committed to voting Democratic to begin with or wind up voting for the Democratic candidate anyway once they get their frustrations expressed - and more importantly, heard, and respected.
Nevertheless, criticism of the Democratic leadership gets met with "whaddya gonna do? Vote Republican?" or "how'd that Nader thing work out for you last time, hmmm?" and other obvious attempts at ridiculing, trivializing and dismissing critics of the party leadership. That is an attempt at silencing debate. No way around that.
Let's look at the last election. Once Kerry was anointed by party insiders, no criticism was to be permitted, even about tactics or rhetoric. "Right now we have to get a Dem elected, and we can deal with all of that other stuff after the election." OK, great. I worked my ass off for Kerry in a very conservative district - if that isn't the ultimate sacrifice and an almost impossible task, trying to sell a pedantic erudite professorial New Englander to rural people - I don't know what is. But I made a personal commitment to a goal of getting 100 Republican voting neighbors to at least not vote for the top of the Republican ticket, and hit that goal. I could never have achieved that result by selling Kerry - it just wasn't going to happen. I waited 'til after the election to do anything other than cheer lead for the party.
The what happened after the election? Did everyone dig right in and tackle the serious problems within the party? Was the left wing of the party heard and respected? No. Right away - and I mean the day after - we were talking about "Hillary in '08" while serious issues, such as the mountain of evidence pouring in that showed that the election had been stolen were buried and those who wanted to talk about that were attacked as “conspiracy theorists” who were “hurting the party” by “making us look bad.”
So between elections is not the right time to criticize the party, during the campaign is not the right time, after a devastating loss is not the right time, during the primaries is not the right time - at what point do we face the fact that the calls for loyalty are really a tactic by one wing of the party to shut down the other?
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| -To Those Who Would Refuse To Vote for Hillary in the GE |
Spiffarino |
Jan-18-08 12:47 AM |
#0 |
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and Hillary is better than the above scenarios how? |
leftofthedial |
Jan-18-08 12:50 AM |
#1 |
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Would Hillary appoint Abu Gonzales? |
Spiffarino |
Jan-18-08 12:56 AM |
#2 |
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she hasn't seen fit to oppose any of king george's nominees |
leftofthedial |
Jan-18-08 12:58 AM |
#3 |
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Albeit more slowly |
Spiffarino |
Jan-18-08 01:01 AM |
#5 |
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NEWS FLASH! |
leftofthedial |
Jan-18-08 01:06 AM |
#10 |
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Close |
Spiffarino |
Jan-18-08 02:17 AM |
#28 |
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"Free" trade commitment? check. |
leftofthedial |
Jan-18-08 07:12 PM |
#75 |
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Then go to Free Republic, how fucking naive can you be? |
DainBramaged |
Jan-18-08 01:46 PM |
#53 |
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you miss the point. |
leftofthedial |
Jan-18-08 01:58 PM |
#59 |
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May you forever dream of Political purity from your candidates |
DainBramaged |
Jan-18-08 04:37 PM |
#72 |
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it's got nothing to do with demanding purity |
Djinn |
Jan-20-08 03:58 AM |
#188 |
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purity? |
Two Americas |
Jan-21-08 11:57 PM |
#253 |
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I admire your idealism and that can be very effective on a smaller scale |
fujiyama |
Jan-20-08 02:31 AM |
#187 |
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Yeah, rrriiiiggghhhttt. |
Rockholm |
Jan-18-08 01:53 PM |
#56 |
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You may as well be republican |
donheld |
Jan-19-08 04:08 AM |
#141 |
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Keep saying that, and this is your future... |
Aya Reiko |
Jan-19-08 06:00 AM |
#145 |
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And I Think Much To Much Kissy-Poo With The Bushies! Repukes |
ChiciB1 |
Jan-21-08 11:25 PM |
#249 |
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Well this answered that. Shes a DINO? Who knew. Thanks, but you can keep status quo |
Yael |
Jan-18-08 10:15 AM |
#35 |
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Some of us believe strongly that the only hope for the country is for the frog to boil RAPIDLY! |
bobbolink |
Jan-19-08 12:45 PM |
#163 |
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except for |
MonkeyFunk |
Jan-18-08 11:35 PM |
#119 |
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Thank you. n/t |
goodgd_yall |
Jan-20-08 02:17 AM |
#185 |
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she might |
TheFarseer |
Jan-19-08 01:03 AM |
#132 |
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Is that the best thing you can say about Hillary? |
John Gauger |
Jan-20-08 02:25 PM |
#206 |
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You bet she is. |
emilyg |
Jan-18-08 01:40 AM |
#19 |
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Hillary has a voting record on progressive issues of over 90%. |
pnwmom |
Jan-18-08 02:58 AM |
#33 |
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Like HELL she does. |
Kucinich4America |
Jan-18-08 08:43 PM |
#87 |
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WRONG 99.9% of the time |
leftchick |
Jan-19-08 03:12 PM |
#170 |
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Can You Really Be This Dumb? |
we can do it |
Jan-18-08 09:20 PM |
#91 |
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Because HRC like WJC will not forget about those that helped |
BenDavid |
Jan-19-08 09:30 AM |
#150 |
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Wow. Now THAT's Ignorance. |
OPERATIONMINDCRIME |
Jan-20-08 05:51 PM |
#212 |
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misposted |
Ravy |
Jan-18-08 01:00 AM |
#4 |
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? |
Spiffarino |
Jan-18-08 01:03 AM |
#7 |
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Sorry, meant for the poster who indicated Hillary was no different. |
Ravy |
Jan-18-08 01:06 AM |
#11 |
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Sorry Ravy. |
Spiffarino |
Jan-18-08 01:11 AM |
#13 |
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huh? |
HughMoran |
Jan-18-08 01:06 AM |
#9 |
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Read upwards |
Spiffarino |
Jan-18-08 01:12 AM |
#14 |
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If she sistah souljah's us, that might be unforgivable. |
Heaven and Earth |
Jan-18-08 01:02 AM |
#6 |
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I felt your passion when |
rawtribe |
Jan-18-08 01:03 AM |
#8 |
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I don't feel any passion for Hillary. |
Spiffarino |
Jan-18-08 01:10 AM |
#12 |
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Is Hillary the roll model |
rawtribe |
Jan-18-08 01:44 AM |
#21 |
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Role model? |
Spiffarino |
Jan-18-08 02:20 AM |
#29 |
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The Clintons have a history |
rawtribe |
Jan-18-08 02:40 AM |
#32 |
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This is what I tell my wife. |
Spiffarino |
Jan-18-08 10:45 PM |
#101 |
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so who else would you vote for??? |
shanti |
Jan-20-08 02:08 PM |
#205 |
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I think you have banged your head one too many times |
Winterblues |
Jan-18-08 10:28 AM |
#36 |
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This war needs to be ENDED! Over! No more- and she is not the one that will do it. n/t |
deacon |
Jan-18-08 01:13 AM |
#15 |
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Unless Ron Paul has a surge in the polls |
Spiffarino |
Jan-18-08 01:16 AM |
#16 |
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The more... |
Invidious |
Jan-18-08 01:20 AM |
#17 |
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I resent your characterization |
Spiffarino |
Jan-18-08 02:12 AM |
#27 |
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it is not quite so simple or easy |
Two Americas |
Jan-18-08 08:52 PM |
#88 |
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Are you accusing me of being a sheep? |
Spiffarino |
Jan-18-08 10:22 PM |
#99 |
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no |
Two Americas |
Jan-18-08 10:57 PM |
#107 |
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Thanks. |
Spiffarino |
Jan-18-08 11:26 PM |
#117 |
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no problem, thank you |
Two Americas |
Jan-19-08 12:08 AM |
#128 |
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I don't hope to silence anybody, TA. |
Spiffarino |
Jan-19-08 12:30 AM |
#130 |
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I know you don't mean to |
Two Americas |
Jan-19-08 01:26 AM |
#135 |
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Actually, I couldn't possibly agree |
Spiffarino |
Jan-20-08 02:30 PM |
#207 |
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that's great |
Two Americas |
Jan-20-08 06:08 PM |
#216 |
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You make too many good points to ignore. |
Spiffarino |
Jan-21-08 12:57 AM |
#233 |
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thanks spiff |
Two Americas |
Jan-21-08 05:56 PM |
#234 |
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You aren't kidding. |
Spiffarino |
Jan-21-08 09:05 PM |
#237 |
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There is nothing to fear but a Republican theft of this election. |
DainBramaged |
Jan-18-08 01:50 PM |
#54 |
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Period. |
Spiffarino |
Jan-18-08 11:27 PM |
#118 |
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of course |
Two Americas |
Jan-19-08 12:50 PM |
#164 |
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To answer your question... |
TwilightZone |
Jan-18-08 01:20 AM |
#18 |
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Amen. |
emilyg |
Jan-18-08 01:42 AM |
#20 |
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except that no one does |
Two Americas |
Jan-19-08 01:01 PM |
#165 |
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and some of us aren't Americans |
Djinn |
Jan-20-08 04:05 AM |
#189 |
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LMAO at your description of Grampa Fred |
Hippo_Tron |
Jan-18-08 01:49 AM |
#22 |
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I picture him watching TV, quietly pooping in his "grampers" |
Spiffarino |
Jan-19-08 12:06 AM |
#126 |
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Where, oh where, have we heard the "X Dem is the same as Y Repub"? |
NastyRiffraff |
Jan-18-08 01:54 AM |
#23 |
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Bingo! |
Spiffarino |
Jan-18-08 02:02 AM |
#25 |
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Wrongo |
riverdale |
Jan-18-08 11:50 AM |
#44 |
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Here's where it's dead on |
Spiffarino |
Jan-18-08 10:41 PM |
#100 |
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Nader did not cost Gore the election. That is a tired excuse. |
U4ikLefty |
Jan-18-08 11:43 PM |
#121 |
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Um, did you read the post, or just comment on the first two words you saw? |
Spiffarino |
Jan-19-08 12:08 AM |
#127 |
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from memory |
Djinn |
Jan-20-08 04:09 AM |
#190 |
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No thanks. |
Tierra_y_Libertad |
Jan-18-08 01:58 AM |
#24 |
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I couldn't catch a huff so I took a taxi |
Hardrada |
Jan-18-08 02:05 AM |
#26 |
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here are the problems |
Two Americas |
Jan-18-08 02:28 AM |
#30 |
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Can I recommend your post? Excellent analysis! |
DutchLiberal |
Jan-18-08 02:07 PM |
#60 |
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I believe that day is coming soon, too. It's inevitable. |
TahitiNut |
Jan-18-08 07:39 PM |
#79 |
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Jesus H, man. |
Spiffarino |
Jan-18-08 10:16 PM |
#98 |
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thank you, i agree,. futhermore... |
tomp |
Jan-18-08 11:51 PM |
#125 |
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the larger context |
Two Americas |
Jan-19-08 01:34 PM |
#166 |
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well, yeah... |
tomp |
Jan-20-08 12:53 AM |
#177 |
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preferential voting helps |
Djinn |
Jan-20-08 04:20 AM |
#192 |
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with all due respect, what are you talking about? nt |
tomp |
Jan-20-08 09:49 AM |
#201 |
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Australia |
Two Americas |
Jan-20-08 06:41 PM |
#219 |
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a solution to the dilema you posed |
Djinn |
Jan-20-08 07:22 PM |
#221 |
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Wow, great post! |
TheFarseer |
Jan-19-08 01:13 AM |
#134 |
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that is a great point |
Two Americas |
Jan-19-08 01:48 AM |
#136 |
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Best Post Ever! |
Yuugal |
Jan-19-08 04:42 AM |
#142 |
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It's pretty telling when I'm told I'm "as useless as tits on a boar" on a Progressive board. |
HughBeaumont |
Jan-19-08 06:02 AM |
#146 |
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outstanding post |
sniffa |
Jan-19-08 10:39 AM |
#155 |
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OP was puerile |
Djinn |
Jan-20-08 04:16 AM |
#191 |
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Forget it! |
Pigwidgeon |
Jan-18-08 02:36 AM |
#31 |
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Anyone who can't laugh at their own irony isn't worth my time or aggravation. |
blondeatlast |
Jan-18-08 10:33 AM |
#38 |
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The elitism of your posting is rampant. |
riverdale |
Jan-18-08 11:55 AM |
#45 |
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I'm often wrong. I often say so. |
Pigwidgeon |
Jan-18-08 10:53 PM |
#103 |
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as an "uber-hipster of the Left "... |
Two Americas |
Jan-18-08 09:12 PM |
#89 |
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Actually, that's NOT what I was criticizing. |
Pigwidgeon |
Jan-18-08 11:02 PM |
#109 |
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prediction . . . even if the Democrat wins the popular vote . . . |
OneBlueSky |
Jan-18-08 03:00 AM |
#34 |
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I hate... |
Spiffarino |
Jan-18-08 11:03 PM |
#110 |
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She does not come within shouting distance of my values, and her personality is ill suited to |
LeftyMom |
Jan-18-08 10:32 AM |
#37 |
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So does that mean you'll NOT vote for her if she is nominated? |
DainBramaged |
Jan-18-08 01:53 PM |
#55 |
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That's right, you can take that to the bank nt |
gdaerin |
Jan-20-08 01:14 AM |
#180 |
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Yeah!!!! Hell Yeah! well said, my feelings exactly! nt |
gdaerin |
Jan-20-08 01:13 AM |
#179 |
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DON'T piss in my face and then tell me to vote for you because some "other" guy's urine stinks more |
TahitiNut |
Jan-18-08 10:34 AM |
#39 |
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Fine. Great. |
Spiffarino |
Jan-18-08 11:38 AM |
#42 |
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salubrious? |
hfojvt |
Jan-18-08 01:09 PM |
#48 |
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You don't, huh? |
TahitiNut |
Jan-18-08 02:19 PM |
#65 |
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I was not implying that you learned salubrious there, only laughing because I did |
hfojvt |
Jan-18-08 03:04 PM |
#71 |
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FWIW |
Spiffarino |
Jan-18-08 10:54 PM |
#105 |
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What did they do to Florida? (Excellent post, by the way.) |
DutchLiberal |
Jan-18-08 02:11 PM |
#61 |
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Here's an article in The Nation that presents it better than I can. (Thank you.) |
TahitiNut |
Jan-18-08 02:25 PM |
#66 |
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that thread |
Two Americas |
Jan-18-08 02:56 PM |
#70 |
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I like this: |
TahitiNut |
Jan-18-08 07:31 PM |
#78 |
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Well Said |
gdaerin |
Jan-20-08 01:16 AM |
#181 |
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The people who say this are an extremely small minority |
DemGa |
Jan-18-08 10:37 AM |
#40 |
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Simple math. |
lapislzi |
Jan-18-08 11:22 AM |
#41 |
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Same here. |
Spiffarino |
Jan-18-08 11:47 AM |
#43 |
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Another snarky loyalty oath post |
notsodumbhillbilly |
Jan-18-08 12:05 PM |
#46 |
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Conform!!! The End is Near!!! If you don't vote for Hillary she won't SAVE us!! |
Tierra_y_Libertad |
Jan-18-08 12:17 PM |
#47 |
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Fine, then. Don't vote. It's your right. |
lapislzi |
Jan-18-08 01:28 PM |
#49 |
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Oh, I plan to vote. But, not for Hillary. |
Tierra_y_Libertad |
Jan-18-08 01:36 PM |
#50 |
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I couldn't agree more. |
NaturalHigh |
Jan-19-08 11:53 AM |
#157 |
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I see ignored people |
DainBramaged |
Jan-18-08 01:43 PM |
#52 |
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millions of ignored people, yes |
Two Americas |
Jan-20-08 06:35 PM |
#217 |
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I find it interesting that HRC-supporters can only threaten, and never persuade. |
DutchLiberal |
Jan-18-08 02:13 PM |
#62 |
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OK, first of all, I'm NOT a Hillary supporter |
lapislzi |
Jan-18-08 02:36 PM |
#68 |
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But can't you see "we will barely survive HRC" is not attracting to voters? |
DutchLiberal |
Jan-18-08 08:36 PM |
#84 |
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Don't vote for her, fuck it, we don't have to persuade anyone to do anything |
DainBramaged |
Jan-18-08 04:39 PM |
#73 |
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This is exactly what I mean: threats, threats, threats. You sound like a Republican. |
DutchLiberal |
Jan-18-08 08:24 PM |
#83 |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Jan-18-08 10:53 PM |
#104 |
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Why do you feel the need to TELL me you put me on ignore list? That power turns you on? |
DutchLiberal |
Jan-19-08 09:24 AM |
#149 |
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It's prideful ignore-ance ... literally. |
TahitiNut |
Jan-19-08 09:58 AM |
#154 |
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same psychology |
Djinn |
Jan-20-08 04:48 AM |
#194 |
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effective political campaigning 101 |
Djinn |
Jan-20-08 04:46 AM |
#193 |
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Exactly. |
Bright Eyes |
Jan-18-08 11:41 PM |
#120 |
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And in turn . . . |
HughBeaumont |
Jan-19-08 11:56 AM |
#160 |
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Oh you wish I would throw my vote away! I'll be voting for the Repug or Bloomberg and |
gdaerin |
Jan-20-08 01:17 AM |
#182 |
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Loyalty oath? |
Spiffarino |
Jan-18-08 11:18 PM |
#115 |
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Hear hear |
DainBramaged |
Jan-18-08 01:42 PM |
#51 |
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The point is: it doesn't matter whether a Republican becomes president or HRC... |
DutchLiberal |
Jan-18-08 01:55 PM |
#57 |
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Practically. You said practically. |
lapislzi |
Jan-18-08 02:39 PM |
#69 |
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Yes. But why does it always have to be the progressives who have to give in? |
DutchLiberal |
Jan-18-08 08:13 PM |
#81 |
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Yes, we're out of our fucking minds, and you are ever so superior. |
bobbolink |
Jan-18-08 01:56 PM |
#58 |
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Hatred? Get a grip. |
Spiffarino |
Jan-19-08 12:18 AM |
#129 |
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Yes, "attention getting" works for Limbaugh, too. Welcome to the wonderful world of |
bobbolink |
Jan-19-08 11:55 AM |
#158 |
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You are a sad, angry person |
Spiffarino |
Jan-19-08 11:28 PM |
#175 |
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you start your post by telling a large percentage |
Djinn |
Jan-20-08 04:55 AM |
#195 |
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Sorry, dude |
Spiffarino |
Jan-20-08 02:03 PM |
#204 |
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the nly strindency here is yours |
Djinn |
Jan-20-08 07:25 PM |
#222 |
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Self-delete |
Spiffarino |
Jan-21-08 09:41 PM |
#239 |
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Yes, they're out of their fucking minds. |
Perry Logan |
Jan-18-08 02:14 PM |
#63 |
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I was very anti Hillary earlier on |
Geek_Girl |
Jan-18-08 02:19 PM |
#64 |
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No. I am out of your fucking mind. I decide who I vote for. Not the party, |
dkofos |
Jan-18-08 02:25 PM |
#67 |
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I love exercising my right to click the red X |
DainBramaged |
Jan-18-08 04:41 PM |
#74 |
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Living up to your name. |
dkofos |
Jan-19-08 09:51 AM |
#151 |
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text missing from DainBramaged's post |
Djinn |
Jan-20-08 04:59 AM |
#196 |
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So if we decide not to vote for a republican lite, we should go to hell? |
B Calm |
Jan-18-08 07:21 PM |
#76 |
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"Heaven for the climate - hell for the conversation." - Mark Twain |
Tierra_y_Libertad |
Jan-18-08 07:27 PM |
#77 |
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I really, really, REALLY do not want her to be President. |
MrSlayer |
Jan-18-08 07:39 PM |
#80 |
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Doesn't Wesley Clark endorse HRC? (Just asking.) |
DutchLiberal |
Jan-18-08 08:38 PM |
#85 |
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Unfortunately, yes. |
MrSlayer |
Jan-18-08 09:49 PM |
#96 |
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I'd rather she didn't get the nomination, but... |
Spiffarino |
Jan-19-08 01:01 AM |
#131 |
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I will vote for whoever the nominee is as well. |
MrSlayer |
Jan-19-08 02:13 AM |
#138 |
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Another red x for the ASSES, WHEN WILL IT STOP |
DainBramaged |
Jan-19-08 05:16 PM |
#171 |
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when you turn off your PC |
Djinn |
Jan-20-08 05:04 AM |
#197 |
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Following me around dipstick? |
DainBramaged |
Jan-20-08 12:29 PM |
#203 |
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hahahaha |
Djinn |
Jan-20-08 07:26 PM |
#223 |
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I might vote for Hillary, but ain't no way I'm voting for Obama. |
readmoreoften |
Jan-18-08 08:15 PM |
#82 |
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I guess that you better make sure Hillary is NOT the nominee then. |
Kucinich4America |
Jan-18-08 08:39 PM |
#86 |
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You're right. |
Spiffarino |
Jan-18-08 11:13 PM |
#114 |
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This is pretty much the same thing I heard about Kerry in 2004. |
Kitsune |
Jan-18-08 09:13 PM |
#90 |
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It's not your fault they stole it. |
Spiffarino |
Jan-18-08 11:09 PM |
#113 |
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fallacy there, I think |
Two Americas |
Jan-19-08 12:43 PM |
#162 |
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I'm quite aware of how fraudulent the election was. |
Kitsune |
Jan-20-08 01:28 AM |
#184 |
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The good news is that Hillary will probably put up a fight |
Spiffarino |
Jan-20-08 06:05 PM |
#215 |
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NOT voting for Hillary R. Clinton or Barrack H. Obama |
varelse |
Jan-18-08 09:28 PM |
#92 |
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I would hate to be faced with that choice... |
Elrond Hubbard |
Jan-18-08 09:33 PM |
#93 |
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Perhaps its time to run this country into the ground. |
Political Heretic |
Jan-18-08 09:35 PM |
#94 |
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too late, booosh already did that |
kelligesq |
Jan-18-08 11:48 PM |
#124 |
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or.... |
Two Americas |
Jan-19-08 02:17 PM |
#168 |
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"Are you out of your fucking minds?" |
unkachuck |
Jan-18-08 09:35 PM |
#95 |
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"just don't give her the nomination; see, wasn't that easy?" |
Spiffarino |
Jan-18-08 11:25 PM |
#116 |
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does it ever occur to you |
Djinn |
Jan-20-08 05:08 AM |
#198 |
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Constantly. n/t |
Spiffarino |
Jan-20-08 05:43 PM |
#211 |
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in that case |
Djinn |
Jan-20-08 07:27 PM |
#224 |
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Umm... |
Spiffarino |
Jan-21-08 12:38 AM |
#229 |
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What the fuck is wrong with you? |
Spiffarino |
Jan-21-08 12:56 AM |
#232 |
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Who posted the |
Djinn |
Jan-21-08 11:05 PM |
#244 |
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Just ask yourself: Do the Repubs want me to vote for Hillary? |
johan helge |
Jan-18-08 10:02 PM |
#97 |
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Screw that I am voting for Huckabee |
NNN0LHI |
Jan-18-08 10:50 PM |
#102 |
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OLOLOLOLOLOLOL |
DainBramaged |
Jan-18-08 10:55 PM |
#106 |
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Dayumm...hay's hotter'n Gomer Pyle! |
Spiffarino |
Jan-18-08 11:05 PM |
#111 |
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Hillary is a fine Republican |
upi402 |
Jan-18-08 10:59 PM |
#108 |
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Well, then... |
Spiffarino |
Jan-18-08 11:06 PM |
#112 |
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I'll vote for her... if I have to. /nt |
dorkulon |
Jan-18-08 11:44 PM |
#122 |
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I will not vote for Hillary or Obama, pigs at the trough of corporate $-worse than that- |
kelligesq |
Jan-18-08 11:46 PM |
#123 |
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quack |
BushDespiser12 |
Jan-19-08 01:05 AM |
#133 |
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Another red x for posterity |
DainBramaged |
Jan-20-08 10:56 PM |
#227 |
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Don't worry, way too early to be talking about the GE-Things subside....be patient...it's so early! |
GreenTea |
Jan-19-08 02:09 AM |
#137 |
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I guess this should be directed at those who live in states |
genie_weenie |
Jan-19-08 03:44 AM |
#139 |
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Matter or count? It doesn't matter if they aren't counted to begin with no matter what state. n/t |
JTFrog |
Jan-20-08 05:15 AM |
#200 |
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One thing is certain. This thread shows what a divisive a character she is. She won't be uniting |
deacon |
Jan-19-08 03:57 AM |
#140 |
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I refuse to vote between a giant douche and a turd sandwich |
spindoctor |
Jan-19-08 04:57 AM |
#143 |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Jan-19-08 05:50 AM |
#144 |
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Wrong Site Pal. You Can't Advocate Against Our Candidates. Got It Bub? |
OPERATIONMINDCRIME |
Jan-20-08 05:57 PM |
#214 |
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Good sentiment, but way too early |
JustABozoOnThisBus |
Jan-19-08 06:16 AM |
#147 |
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John Edwards sucks? |
Spiffarino |
Jan-21-08 09:03 PM |
#236 |
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Well, this was productive. |
HughBeaumont |
Jan-19-08 06:36 AM |
#148 |
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I donated $100 on Friday |
Spiffarino |
Jan-21-08 09:02 PM |
#235 |
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loyalty oaths are for suckers |
sniffa |
Jan-19-08 09:52 AM |
#152 |
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This bawwwwing might mean something if we had a one-vote-per-person system |
Firespirit |
Jan-19-08 09:55 AM |
#153 |
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Same sentiment, just opposite side of the spectrum |
lastliberalintexas |
Jan-20-08 11:19 PM |
#228 |
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Don't try to Bully me, it just turns me off of your cand, even more! |
gdaerin |
Jan-19-08 11:50 AM |
#156 |
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She's not my candidate. |
Spiffarino |
Jan-19-08 05:51 PM |
#174 |
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You forget, Bloomberg will enter if Hill gets the Nom. and I'd vote for him over Hill. nt |
gdaerin |
Jan-20-08 01:22 AM |
#183 |
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I guess I'm out of my mind, then... |
NaturalHigh |
Jan-19-08 11:56 AM |
#159 |
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Can you guarantee that the Dem president won't "reach out" by nominating the |
GreenPartyVoter |
Jan-19-08 12:39 PM |
#161 |
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I plan to vote Democratic just NOT for HRC-ever! (Write-in someone who would |
mod mom |
Jan-19-08 01:42 PM |
#167 |
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The OP wasn't "bullying" anyone |
NastyRiffraff |
Jan-19-08 02:46 PM |
#169 |
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I will not vote for the DLC candidate |
Samantha |
Jan-19-08 05:36 PM |
#172 |
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Then vote for the FREEPER CANDIDATE AND don't let the door hit you on the way out |
DainBramaged |
Jan-19-08 11:46 PM |
#176 |
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I am not leaving but I am putting you on Ignore |
Samantha |
Jan-20-08 11:30 AM |
#202 |
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People who say that are not part of our base--they don't matter |
Truth Hurts A Lot |
Jan-19-08 05:44 PM |
#173 |
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I'm with you Spiffarino |
RamboLiberal |
Jan-20-08 01:05 AM |
#178 |
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Thanks |
Spiffarino |
Jan-20-08 02:37 PM |
#208 |
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As much as I've bitched about her and don't want her to win the nomination |
fujiyama |
Jan-20-08 02:26 AM |
#186 |
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Not out of my mind, out of this country. Enjoy the Empire, it's not for me. n/t |
JTFrog |
Jan-20-08 05:14 AM |
#199 |
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If you're not voting Hillary this Nov, do America a favor and don't vote. |
ileus |
Jan-20-08 03:04 PM |
#209 |
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To Hillary supporters: |
Marr |
Jan-20-08 03:17 PM |
#210 |
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Of course, the marginalized few can't be blamed |
DainBramaged |
Jan-20-08 10:54 PM |
#226 |
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There Are Only Two Reasons For Real Members Here Not To Vote For Her In The GE: |
OPERATIONMINDCRIME |
Jan-20-08 05:56 PM |
#213 |
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guess we're glad its one vote per person then, huh? |
bpeale |
Jan-21-08 12:53 AM |
#231 |
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not what the debate is really about |
Two Americas |
Jan-21-08 09:29 PM |
#238 |
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Actually, It Was EXACTLY What The Debate Was About. |
OPERATIONMINDCRIME |
Jan-21-08 09:54 PM |
#241 |
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you are agreeing with me |
Two Americas |
Jan-21-08 10:49 PM |
#242 |
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No, I'm Actually Not. |
OPERATIONMINDCRIME |
Jan-21-08 11:07 PM |
#245 |
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that is needlessly insulting |
Two Americas |
Jan-22-08 12:18 AM |
#258 |
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It Was Necessary Logic. |
OPERATIONMINDCRIME |
Jan-22-08 12:30 AM |
#259 |
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that isn't what I am talking about |
Two Americas |
Jan-22-08 12:39 AM |
#261 |
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It Is Unpleasant For You Because My Logic Has Been Superior. |
OPERATIONMINDCRIME |
Jan-22-08 12:43 AM |
#263 |
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my argument |
Two Americas |
Jan-22-08 01:37 AM |
#269 |
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or perhaps |
Djinn |
Jan-21-08 11:21 PM |
#246 |
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Not Disaffected People, |
OPERATIONMINDCRIME |
Jan-21-08 11:32 PM |
#250 |
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now that makes no sense |
Two Americas |
Jan-22-08 12:30 AM |
#260 |
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It Makes Perfect Sense. |
OPERATIONMINDCRIME |
Jan-22-08 12:40 AM |
#262 |
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good grief |
Two Americas |
Jan-22-08 01:05 AM |
#266 |
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Alas, But They Are. |
OPERATIONMINDCRIME |
Jan-22-08 01:11 AM |
#267 |
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I tend to disagree |
Spiffarino |
Jan-21-08 10:54 PM |
#243 |
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"We are at a tipping point in our history and a Republican President could spell the end of America |
OPERATIONMINDCRIME |
Jan-21-08 11:23 PM |
#247 |
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Oh.... |
Spiffarino |
Jan-21-08 11:34 PM |
#251 |
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it is about the future of the party |
Two Americas |
Jan-21-08 11:25 PM |
#248 |
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It's not blame |
Spiffarino |
Jan-22-08 12:00 AM |
#254 |
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who cares at this point? |
Two Americas |
Jan-22-08 12:57 AM |
#265 |
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That's a strong point |
Spiffarino |
Jan-23-08 02:47 PM |
#272 |
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It's a matter of principle and necessary to return the Dem Party to its ideals. So...fu*k off. |
NoodleyAppendage |
Jan-20-08 06:35 PM |
#218 |
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Supreme Court Judges should be enough for anyone to vote for Hillary |
ShadowLiberal |
Jan-20-08 06:48 PM |
#220 |
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Exactly. |
Taverner |
Jan-20-08 07:28 PM |
#225 |
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guess it sucks to be you, huh? |
bpeale |
Jan-21-08 12:52 AM |
#230 |
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Not at all |
Spiffarino |
Jan-21-08 09:44 PM |
#240 |
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good thing then that the only vote you can control is your own |
bpeale |
Jan-22-08 10:30 AM |
#270 |
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At least I have something to be thankful for as I mark my |
anitar1 |
Jan-21-08 11:48 PM |
#252 |
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Oregon has the electoral system |
Spiffarino |
Jan-22-08 12:03 AM |
#256 |
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A Democratic Congress that fights against bad Republican policies |
Radical Activist |
Jan-22-08 12:01 AM |
#255 |
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Or, as under Jimmy Carter |
Spiffarino |
Jan-22-08 12:11 AM |
#257 |
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And after tonites debate, no way can I vote for her. obama or hillary, no way. n/t |
deacon |
Jan-22-08 12:44 AM |
#264 |
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Another red x for posterity |
DainBramaged |
Jan-23-08 02:48 PM |
#273 |
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I'm tired of choosing between two bowls of shit every 4 years |
socordsx |
Jan-22-08 01:16 AM |
#268 |
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Sorry...I want REAL change, not another 4 or 8 years of a political machine. |
jeffrey_X |
Jan-22-08 10:40 AM |
#271 |