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beachmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 08:53 AM
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28. Thanks for the insult. Let's be clear here:
In politics there are "points of view", and there is of course "embellishing" that goes on. I am not naive about that. But what the Clintons do is blatant obvious lies, even when they are easily disproved. Then the next day they lie again. So I take the word "lie" very seriously. It needs to be deployed when warranted: like Bush saying he would fire anyone in the WH who had anything to do with outing Plame. He was blatantly lying, and it was proven several years later. That is completely different from saying a program will cost x amount of dollars, and someone disputing that and saying, no it will cost y. The Clintons are calling Obama a liar for what is normal political discourse, while being guilty of some of the worst lies I have seen in politics since Bush/Cheney.
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  -If I see one more post about Obama "lying" I'm going to scream! beachmom  Jan-23-08 08:29 AM   #0 
  - "We know who the liars are in this primary season."  Deep13   Jan-23-08 08:30 AM   #1 
  - Well, he takes it to a whole new level.  beachmom   Jan-23-08 08:32 AM   #2 
  - Obama: I only got "$60,000" from Tony Rezko  ccpup   Jan-23-08 08:32 AM   #3 
  - What about Obama.......  1corona4u   Jan-23-08 08:34 AM   #5 
  - No, the Bible can be interpreted many ways.  MNDemNY   Jan-23-08 09:28 AM   #34 
  - More smears and crap. The Clintons want to distract primary  beachmom   Jan-23-08 08:35 AM   #6 
  - I notice you didn't address Obama's blatant lie  ccpup   Jan-23-08 08:37 AM   #8 
  - I notice that you are continuing to smear. Let's see the pro-Clinton TalkLeft  beachmom   Jan-23-08 08:41 AM   #14 
     - "I was hoping to avoid writing about ...  ccpup   Jan-23-08 08:55 AM   #29 
  - Obama does the distraction all on his own.  rodeodance   Jan-23-08 08:39 AM   #11 
     - WHAT does that post MEAN, RD ? Here's a WHOLE book you can read...  GalleryGod   Jan-23-08 08:48 AM   #25 
        - You know that wasn't the most positive biography...  ellisonz   Jan-23-08 01:47 PM   #61 
  - He's not lying...he's "compressing" the truth.  MNDemNY   Jan-23-08 09:27 AM   #33 
     - oh, I thought that it was more  ccpup   Jan-23-08 09:44 AM   #36 
        - "Present"!!!!!  MNDemNY   Jan-23-08 09:45 AM   #37 
           - Obama does Not tell the truth. Here is an important example.  avaistheone1   Jan-23-08 01:27 PM   #60 
  - "Scream"? "Cry?" Get "Hysterical?"  robbedvoter   Jan-23-08 08:33 AM   #4 
  - I must admit this is pretty funny n/t  Inuca   Jan-23-08 12:46 PM   #58 
  - Probably would help if he stopped lying  maddiejoan   Jan-23-08 08:36 AM   #7 
  - Except he is NOT lying. THE CLINTONS are lying.  beachmom   Jan-23-08 08:37 AM   #9 
  - He does lie. He's a politician. Go to FactCheck.org. They busted all 3  xultar   Jan-23-08 08:42 AM   #15 
  - Answered below. Factcheck.org was used by Bush on Kerry.  beachmom   Jan-23-08 08:47 AM   #22 
  - Except that  maddiejoan   Jan-23-08 08:47 AM   #21 
  - HA!  we can do it   Jan-23-08 11:18 AM   #49 
  - If I hear one more lie about Sen. Clinton I am going to scream.  rodeodance   Jan-23-08 08:38 AM   #10 
  - If I hear one more lie about Clinton lying about Obama lying  CatWoman   Jan-23-08 08:40 AM   #12 
     - Someday, we are going to have an election like this one...  hayu_lol   Jan-23-08 08:47 AM   #19 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Jan-23-08 08:41 AM   #13 
  - This "dim wit" was about to "Alert" on you,but, then I thought..  GalleryGod   Jan-23-08 08:44 AM   #17 
  - tee hee hee. Y'all crack me up. I'll alert on myself to save you some time.  xultar   Jan-23-08 10:36 AM   #38 
  - There. Ya happy...read the alert I sent on myself to the mods.  xultar   Jan-23-08 10:38 AM   #40 
  - Oh, you mean the way factcheck.org said Kerry lied as much as Bush  beachmom   Jan-23-08 08:45 AM   #18 
  - Touche' BeachMom !  GalleryGod   Jan-23-08 08:47 AM   #20 
  - So, did tou read it? Was it a false statement or not? You didn't even read it.  xultar   Jan-23-08 08:51 AM   #27 
  - That's the whole point:  seasonedblue   Jan-23-08 08:48 AM   #24 
     - Exactly, Obama did well as long as he remained an empty  sufrommich   Jan-23-08 10:48 AM   #43 
     - Well stated. n/t  DURHAM D   Jan-23-08 12:37 PM   #56 
     - No they do not all lie  sandnsea   Jan-23-08 10:52 AM   #45 
        - Actually,this campaign kicked off with Obama attempting  sufrommich   Jan-23-08 11:05 AM   #48 
           - Did they launch a smear campaign?  sandnsea   Jan-23-08 11:22 AM   #50 
  - Desperate people do desperate things...  GalleryGod   Jan-23-08 08:43 AM   #16 
  - Totally agree that Clinton lies, but if you think Obama doesn't you are batshit crazy  Pawel K   Jan-23-08 08:48 AM   #23 
  - Does eating batshit make one crazy ? Turn in your Blue Book...go see the Academic Dean  GalleryGod   Jan-23-08 08:50 AM   #26 
  - Thanks for the insult. Let's be clear here:  beachmom   Jan-23-08 08:53 AM   #28 
     - Why do you bother, the Clone Army is not interested  burythehatchet   Jan-23-08 09:15 AM   #31 
     - So when obama said he never supported single payer health care  Pawel K   Jan-23-08 09:34 AM   #35 
        - He doesn't deny it at all, Hillary LIES  sandnsea   Jan-23-08 10:51 AM   #44 
           - I didn't watch the debate, unfortunately I had to work that day  Pawel K   Jan-23-08 11:25 AM   #51 
              - So you just trusted Hillary's word  sandnsea   Jan-23-08 11:30 AM   #53 
                 - What am I dismissing?  Pawel K   Jan-23-08 12:32 PM   #55 
  - ...it`s not very productive to call each other lier's  madrchsod   Jan-23-08 09:03 AM   #30 
  - Aw, c'mon -- smearing WORKS! Wake up & smell the horseshit ... nt  cloudythescribbler   Jan-23-08 09:22 AM   #32 
  - "He's not lying. So stop saying that or I'll scream!"  dbaker41   Jan-23-08 10:36 AM   #39 
  - Congressional Quarterly/ St Pete Times: Obama caught lying about Clinton and NAFTA  MethuenProgressive   Jan-23-08 10:46 AM   #41 
  - Obama is not a god  quinnox   Jan-23-08 10:47 AM   #42 
  - Blasphemy!  Skip Intro   Jan-23-08 10:55 AM   #47 
  - Easy solution...Obama should stop lying...nt  SaveElmer   Jan-23-08 10:53 AM   #46 
  - Typical Rove strategy: Take your biggest fault and try to make it stick to the other side instead.  milkyway   Jan-23-08 11:27 AM   #52 
  - Exactly! n/t  Inuca   Jan-23-08 12:52 PM   #59 
  - 1/18 - Obama lies about his NH co-chair being a Pharma lobbyist.  Marie26   Jan-23-08 11:37 AM   #54 
  - Obama's a liar!  2rth2pwr   Jan-23-08 12:43 PM   #57 
 

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