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Wed Jan-23-08 08:56 AM
Response to Reply #106 |
| 107. Answer the OP points please. I'm getting sleepy from repeatedly making this request. |
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and am going to sleep soon. I didn't get a good night's worth.
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| -"The Clinton's", "Billary", Mrs. Clinton", "Co-Pres" are all Sexist Attacks by the Media |
LulaMay |
Jan-23-08 02:50 AM |
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I agree. |
Mythsaje |
Jan-23-08 02:52 AM |
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Agreed. It detracts from the real issues, one of which is women's inequality! Funny. |
LulaMay |
Jan-23-08 03:56 AM |
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Fine with me. I'll just stick to "Soulless Corporate Toady" |
jgraz |
Jan-23-08 02:52 AM |
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Name calling is also disrespectful. Facts are better. For the record, |
LulaMay |
Jan-23-08 02:59 AM |
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OK, here are some facts. |
jgraz |
Jan-23-08 03:09 AM |
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She has a long list of achievments. Each candidate has a list of mistakes as well. |
LulaMay |
Jan-23-08 03:18 AM |
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Calling someone a corporate toady is not sexist |
jgraz |
Jan-23-08 03:25 AM |
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I didn't say it was. I said it was disrespectful. She has a record that deserves better. |
LulaMay |
Jan-23-08 03:41 AM |
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If I wanted to teach my daughters what not to do in their gain to equality, |
FrenchieCat |
Jan-23-08 02:54 AM |
#3 |
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All candidates campaign with their spouses. She has a record on her own merits. |
LulaMay |
Jan-23-08 03:09 AM |
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What is her record? |
FrenchieCat |
Jan-23-08 03:15 AM |
#9 |
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A lawyer, advocate for children and the disadvantaged, the first person to try and get health care |
LulaMay |
Jan-23-08 03:31 AM |
#16 |
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She's not my favorite candidate |
Mythsaje |
Jan-23-08 04:15 AM |
#26 |
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Read a little history. She certainly was NOT |
cali |
Jan-23-08 07:37 AM |
#73 |
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Lame defense of Hillary |
GoldieAZ49 |
Jan-25-08 03:00 AM |
#145 |
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Sorry but running on Bill's coattails doesn't count as "earning it" |
knight_of_the_star |
Jan-23-08 12:25 PM |
#113 |
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If Michelle Obama were running for President |
Mithreal |
Jan-23-08 03:27 AM |
#14 |
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It's okay. You'll get the hang of it. |
aquart |
Jan-23-08 03:31 AM |
#17 |
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I prefer civil arguments and debate with facts rather than behaving like animals. |
LulaMay |
Jan-23-08 03:39 AM |
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QUESTION: How did it take you 7 1/2 YEARS to find D.U. ? |
GalleryGod |
Jan-23-08 07:48 AM |
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I had cancer, neck surgery, & my mother had leukemia, which all kept me busy/tired until recently. |
LulaMay |
Jan-23-08 08:05 AM |
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Animals never do this kind of thing. |
aquart |
Jan-23-08 03:07 PM |
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Welcome, Rookie! READ THIS BOOK |
GalleryGod |
Jan-23-08 07:37 AM |
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Michelle Obama is not acting as her husband's attack dog, and is not an ex-president |
rox63 |
Jan-23-08 07:47 AM |
#86 |
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Answer the Original Post please. |
LulaMay |
Jan-23-08 08:06 AM |
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I was responding to a different post in this thread, not the OP |
rox63 |
Jan-23-08 09:40 AM |
#111 |
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Alright, how many ex-President's spouses do you see running? My question is still |
Mithreal |
Jan-23-08 02:35 PM |
#116 |
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That is so painfully disingenuous. |
aquart |
Jan-23-08 03:29 AM |
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I agree. There have been many political familes, JFK & RFK for one. Who would demean that? |
LulaMay |
Jan-23-08 03:48 AM |
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Hi,Rookie! THIS man is the Clitons WORST nightmare. |
GalleryGod |
Jan-23-08 07:40 AM |
#75 |
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LulaMay... |
Andromeda |
Jan-24-08 01:18 AM |
#131 |
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that is so insulting to women. |
Evergreen Emerald |
Jan-23-08 07:54 AM |
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so you'd tell them to treat men the way they treated women? i can see the 'revenge is sweet' |
VotesForWomen |
Jan-23-08 04:20 PM |
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So is "Benifer" sexist too? |
dkf |
Jan-23-08 02:59 AM |
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It Would be if Jennifer Lopez were running for President. "Clever" how the media adopted that. |
LulaMay |
Jan-23-08 03:14 AM |
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That's Ben Affleck and Jennifer Gardner btw. |
dkf |
Jan-23-08 03:26 AM |
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Hard to keep track of celebrities. I don't pay that much attention. |
LulaMay |
Jan-23-08 03:32 AM |
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Your perception may be based upon faulty reasoning or lack of data. |
Mithreal |
Jan-23-08 03:33 AM |
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I think you need to read the original post. |
dkf |
Jan-23-08 03:54 AM |
#23 |
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I will repeat that you are making a straw man argument |
Mithreal |
Jan-23-08 04:16 AM |
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Yes, the candidate is running singularly according to you and the poster. |
dkf |
Jan-23-08 04:21 AM |
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According to the law. Senator Clinton is the candidate, not Bill Clinton. |
LulaMay |
Jan-23-08 04:51 AM |
#34 |
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Turn in your blue book,please |
GalleryGod |
Jan-23-08 07:46 AM |
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"Hiding behind her gender to ride on Bill's back?" You're right, I will call that sexist. |
LulaMay |
Jan-23-08 05:04 AM |
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I'm prejudiced against my own gender? |
dkf |
Jan-23-08 05:43 AM |
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Very possible. Women often are in response to the threat of being accused themselves |
LulaMay |
Jan-23-08 07:01 AM |
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As a woman I find her embarrassing...that is where I am coming from. |
dkf |
Jan-24-08 02:06 AM |
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He is LYING again in South Carolina THIS A.M. I just saw the live feed. |
GalleryGod |
Jan-23-08 07:42 AM |
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With contributing support from the apostrophe companies, I guess. |
smalll |
Jan-23-08 03:05 AM |
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Addressing a woman as "Mrs." hasn't been protocol in academia for over 30 years. |
LulaMay |
Jan-23-08 03:21 AM |
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Shocked that she's gotten this far? Really? How extraordinary. |
cali |
Jan-23-08 03:56 AM |
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It is sexist to classify her, a presidential candidate, as simply a wife. The media created this, |
LulaMay |
Jan-23-08 04:16 AM |
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What you're claiming has NOT been nearly as prevalent as |
cali |
Jan-23-08 05:03 AM |
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It was on TV all day. Both Michelle and Elizabeth have defended their spouses, |
LulaMay |
Jan-23-08 06:49 AM |
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Sorry,again |
GalleryGod |
Jan-23-08 07:36 AM |
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Self delete |
Andromeda |
Jan-24-08 01:28 AM |
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And yet her own campaign ignores Senator and Clinton and goes with just Hillary. |
JTFrog |
Jan-23-08 05:38 AM |
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I'm shocked because of the level of sexism that still exists, but uplifted to see it weakened. |
LulaMay |
Jan-23-08 04:17 AM |
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I am with you. I was so saddened when the campaign first |
Evergreen Emerald |
Jan-23-08 08:14 AM |
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If it quacks like a duck, sometimes it's a duck. |
Skidmore |
Jan-23-08 04:24 AM |
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There's no point arguing with a self proclaimed sexist duck. Are you okay with racsim too? |
LulaMay |
Jan-23-08 04:40 AM |
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I'll refer you to #24 response by cali, who formulated the situation |
Skidmore |
Jan-23-08 04:49 AM |
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It was not a good or cogent reply to my post. I explained how in my response. |
LulaMay |
Jan-23-08 04:54 AM |
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Perhaps, I don't agree with all aspects of your answer. |
Skidmore |
Jan-23-08 05:06 AM |
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I'm with Skidmore on this. There's nothing more sexist than a woman using her husband |
BerryBush |
Jan-23-08 05:27 AM |
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She left SC to because she considers it lost. Spouses campaign in different areas |
LulaMay |
Jan-23-08 05:37 AM |
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The only people diminishing Hillary Clinton are the |
Skidmore |
Jan-23-08 05:45 AM |
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I don't "squawk" (another sexist comment), and you insult HRC saying she's no RFK or JFK |
LulaMay |
Jan-23-08 06:18 AM |
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What the hell are you talking about? |
Skidmore |
Jan-23-08 07:00 AM |
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Respond to my OP. I said it is sexist for the media to use language that treats her |
LulaMay |
Jan-23-08 07:20 AM |
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I thought I had addressed you OP by observing that |
Skidmore |
Jan-23-08 07:26 AM |
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lol. I completely responded- point by point |
cali |
Jan-23-08 07:42 AM |
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in my soul, and in all honesty, i have thought of barack obama as nothing more than a |
flordehinojos |
Jan-23-08 04:53 AM |
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What I find interesting is that SHE can be attacked |
Bitwit1234 |
Jan-23-08 05:00 AM |
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I don't understand your point. Can you please rephrase it? |
LulaMay |
Jan-23-08 05:05 AM |
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Do you mean that people feel fine attacking her with sexism, but not dare display other prejudices? |
LulaMay |
Jan-23-08 05:16 AM |
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Agreed. And what I find amazing is how she is able to withstand the repeated ugly attacks. |
Iceburg |
Jan-23-08 05:27 AM |
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Nonsense. Many people have no problem with strong women, myself included. |
BerryBush |
Jan-23-08 05:29 AM |
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It is a sexist stereotype to say she's an opportunist who rides her husbands coat tails |
LulaMay |
Jan-23-08 05:50 AM |
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Thus confirming my assertion -- thanks. |
Iceburg |
Jan-23-08 06:55 AM |
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Confirming what? You don't make sense. You made sexist remarks and defend them. |
LulaMay |
Jan-23-08 07:04 AM |
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Lulamay ...my comment was directed at the post above yours |
Iceburg |
Jan-23-08 03:27 PM |
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Sorry! I got a bit mixed up on the thread. I'm sort of new at this. |
LulaMay |
Jan-25-08 02:47 AM |
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And yet her own campaign ignores Senator and Clinton and goes with just Hillary. |
JTFrog |
Jan-23-08 05:42 AM |
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It's not sexist to use her first name! All candidates do. Spouses campaign in different areas too. |
LulaMay |
Jan-23-08 05:58 AM |
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Getting away from your argument? Are you saying the media should have higher |
JTFrog |
Jan-23-08 07:20 AM |
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Courtesy? To Hillary? From DU? you're dreaming! |
robbedvoter |
Jan-23-08 06:35 AM |
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Much appreciated....but I DO hope for civil, honest discourse! It helps nobody to take media bait. |
LulaMay |
Jan-23-08 06:54 AM |
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I had always thought |
Zenzic |
Jan-23-08 07:14 AM |
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This is not 'Entertainment Tonight'. It's a Presidental Election. 'Billary' is sexist |
LulaMay |
Jan-23-08 07:28 AM |
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Sorry,LulaMay. It's ALL here...Flawlessly written,Impeccably footnoted |
GalleryGod |
Jan-23-08 07:35 AM |
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What is? You don't include any excerpts, even out of context! |
LulaMay |
Jan-23-08 07:39 AM |
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Try READING it, MS. D+ ...go see the academic dean |
GalleryGod |
Jan-23-08 07:55 AM |
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You are just rude, self important and abusive. Why don't you go home? |
LulaMay |
Jan-23-08 08:25 AM |
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Maybe because his "home" is Free Republic, and since they |
LandOLincoln |
Jan-24-08 02:00 AM |
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Thanks for the tip. |
LulaMay |
Jan-25-08 02:48 AM |
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it's such a handicap having a popular ex president as your defacto running mate |
Magic Rat |
Jan-23-08 07:28 AM |
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It is when media makes sexist inuendo about her role. Please respond to the OP. |
LulaMay |
Jan-23-08 07:34 AM |
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okay. my response. |
Magic Rat |
Jan-23-08 07:50 AM |
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Find me a NON-sexist term for this gal... |
GalleryGod |
Jan-23-08 07:33 AM |
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Senator Clinton, Hillary Rodham Clinton, Hillary, Ms. Clinton, Candidate Clinton |
LulaMay |
Jan-23-08 07:36 AM |
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HRC only goes by sexist titles or slurs in your world? What do you even mean? |
LulaMay |
Jan-23-08 07:44 AM |
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How would you address her? I am confused. |
Mass |
Jan-23-08 07:41 AM |
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Senator Clinton, Senator Obama, Mr. Edwards |
LostinVA |
Jan-23-08 07:44 AM |
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Well, it would be OK if she did not present herself as Bill Clinton's wife first and Senator Clinton |
Mass |
Jan-23-08 07:45 AM |
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She doesn't -- the MSM and certain people on here do |
LostinVA |
Jan-23-08 07:52 AM |
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And all also used on here |
LostinVA |
Jan-23-08 07:42 AM |
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Thank you. I felt it needed to be brought up considering the media field day. |
LulaMay |
Jan-23-08 07:45 AM |
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Good for you,you got a lot of folks to pounce on your vapid,dogearred,RED MEAT, OP |
GalleryGod |
Jan-23-08 07:44 AM |
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Karl, is that you? n/t |
LandOLincoln |
Jan-24-08 01:56 AM |
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This is PC bull$%^#. --- It is what it is whether some like it or not |
democrat2thecore |
Jan-23-08 07:45 AM |
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"Sexism PC crap"? "BillHill" isn't sexist and diminishing that she is the candidate? |
LulaMay |
Jan-23-08 08:00 AM |
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MY sexism? It's sounds like YOU have the sexist hangup. You have to blame it on SOMETHING! -nt |
democrat2thecore |
Jan-23-08 08:02 AM |
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I do have a 'hang-up' about sexism, I despise it, just like I despise all prejudice. |
LulaMay |
Jan-23-08 08:31 AM |
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so when he ran and he said it was a 2-for-1 deal |
Magic Rat |
Jan-23-08 07:51 AM |
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Vanity Fair, December, 1992. First time I read about 2 for 1. |
GalleryGod |
Jan-23-08 07:57 AM |
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ok you hooked me |
GoldieAZ49 |
Jan-25-08 04:20 AM |
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If he did, he welcomed her being an active First Lady. It did not diminish him |
LulaMay |
Jan-23-08 08:23 AM |
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You hit the nail on the head & it bugs the shit out of a lot of people because you're right. |
mtnsnake |
Jan-23-08 08:08 AM |
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Thank you. |
LulaMay |
Jan-23-08 08:28 AM |
#102 |
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and I thank YOU |
mtnsnake |
Jan-23-08 09:03 AM |
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What a big honking wad of hairball pleghm of an argument |
zulchzulu |
Jan-23-08 08:31 AM |
#103 |
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Try reading the rest of the comments that already address these incorrect assumptions |
LulaMay |
Jan-23-08 08:43 AM |
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It sounds like you want to hide the fact that Hillary wants to admit she's married to Bill |
zulchzulu |
Jan-23-08 09:45 AM |
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Hello Strawman |
themaguffin |
Jan-23-08 08:47 AM |
#106 |
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Answer the OP points please. I'm getting sleepy from repeatedly making this request. |
LulaMay |
Jan-23-08 08:56 AM |
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It's ridiculous and appalling that |
themaguffin |
Jan-23-08 09:12 AM |
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Mrs. Clinton? Sexist? Bwahahaha! |
Kristi1696 |
Jan-23-08 09:05 AM |
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She refers to herself as "Mrs. Clinton." You are beyond ridiculous. |
Alexander |
Jan-23-08 12:29 PM |
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hillaryclinton.com Refers to her as 'Hillary", "Hillary Rodham Clinton", "Senator Clinton",not "Mrs" |
LulaMay |
Jan-23-08 02:06 PM |
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She took "Mrs. Clinton" when she took her husband's name. You must be quite dense. |
Alexander |
Jan-24-08 12:21 AM |
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It is Hillary's own fault. |
Meldread |
Jan-23-08 03:11 PM |
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Sexist, yes, but it may help her |
Jed Dilligan |
Jan-23-08 03:24 PM |
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& a lot of women are motivated by the sexism |
HughMoran |
Jan-23-08 03:44 PM |
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There are plenty of excellent female lawyers. What makes her so special that she might become |
milkyway |
Jan-23-08 03:30 PM |
#121 |
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A new name for Barack and Michelle... |
MetricSystem |
Jan-23-08 03:36 PM |
#122 |
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Love it! Thanks for the laugh. Believe me, it's a welcome relief |
LandOLincoln |
Jan-24-08 01:54 AM |
#135 |
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I agree too. |
HughMoran |
Jan-23-08 03:40 PM |
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The media's saying that? Wow. |
zidzi |
Jan-23-08 03:47 PM |
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i'm a feminist and i don't see it that way; women's lib is not about dominating men, it's about equa |
VotesForWomen |
Jan-23-08 04:18 PM |
#126 |
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No. Or at least not in every interpretation. |
krkaufman |
Jan-23-08 05:15 PM |
#128 |
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Hi LulaMay, good op, draws out the Hillary haters and makes them transparent |
Mithreal |
Jan-23-08 11:59 PM |
#129 |
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how about the line "I have no problem with a female president, but just not Hillary" |
AGirl |
Jan-24-08 01:27 AM |
#132 |
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She invites it by running on her advisory role during Bill's presidency. |
Nailzberg |
Jan-24-08 01:29 AM |
#134 |
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Bullshit. |
Political Heretic |
Jan-24-08 01:54 AM |
#136 |
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WRONG, WRONG, WRONG!!!! |
hnmnf |
Jan-24-08 02:09 AM |
#140 |
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And calling her "Hillary" is a sexist attack, too! |
Stephanie |
Jan-24-08 02:21 AM |
#141 |
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Have you ever considered defending her on the ISSUES instead of the BS? |
Stephanie |
Jan-24-08 02:30 AM |
#142 |
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She wouldn't be president if it was not for the big dog... |
mdmc |
Jan-25-08 03:02 AM |
#146 |
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