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Wed Jan-23-08 07:54 AM
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| 91. that is so insulting to women. |
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Clinton went to law school when there were few women in law school. She worked throughout law school for human rights--and realized how the democratic party was more in line with her beliefs. She campaigned for her husband and changed Arkansas's health care system (with the help of the WalMart owner, buy the way), and their educational system.
She is a powerful strong woman, who has a partner in this. An equal partner.
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| -"The Clinton's", "Billary", Mrs. Clinton", "Co-Pres" are all Sexist Attacks by the Media |
LulaMay |
Jan-23-08 02:50 AM |
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I agree. |
Mythsaje |
Jan-23-08 02:52 AM |
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Agreed. It detracts from the real issues, one of which is women's inequality! Funny. |
LulaMay |
Jan-23-08 03:56 AM |
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Fine with me. I'll just stick to "Soulless Corporate Toady" |
jgraz |
Jan-23-08 02:52 AM |
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Name calling is also disrespectful. Facts are better. For the record, |
LulaMay |
Jan-23-08 02:59 AM |
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OK, here are some facts. |
jgraz |
Jan-23-08 03:09 AM |
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She has a long list of achievments. Each candidate has a list of mistakes as well. |
LulaMay |
Jan-23-08 03:18 AM |
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Calling someone a corporate toady is not sexist |
jgraz |
Jan-23-08 03:25 AM |
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I didn't say it was. I said it was disrespectful. She has a record that deserves better. |
LulaMay |
Jan-23-08 03:41 AM |
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If I wanted to teach my daughters what not to do in their gain to equality, |
FrenchieCat |
Jan-23-08 02:54 AM |
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All candidates campaign with their spouses. She has a record on her own merits. |
LulaMay |
Jan-23-08 03:09 AM |
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What is her record? |
FrenchieCat |
Jan-23-08 03:15 AM |
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A lawyer, advocate for children and the disadvantaged, the first person to try and get health care |
LulaMay |
Jan-23-08 03:31 AM |
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She's not my favorite candidate |
Mythsaje |
Jan-23-08 04:15 AM |
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Read a little history. She certainly was NOT |
cali |
Jan-23-08 07:37 AM |
#73 |
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Lame defense of Hillary |
GoldieAZ49 |
Jan-25-08 03:00 AM |
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Sorry but running on Bill's coattails doesn't count as "earning it" |
knight_of_the_star |
Jan-23-08 12:25 PM |
#113 |
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If Michelle Obama were running for President |
Mithreal |
Jan-23-08 03:27 AM |
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It's okay. You'll get the hang of it. |
aquart |
Jan-23-08 03:31 AM |
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I prefer civil arguments and debate with facts rather than behaving like animals. |
LulaMay |
Jan-23-08 03:39 AM |
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QUESTION: How did it take you 7 1/2 YEARS to find D.U. ? |
GalleryGod |
Jan-23-08 07:48 AM |
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I had cancer, neck surgery, & my mother had leukemia, which all kept me busy/tired until recently. |
LulaMay |
Jan-23-08 08:05 AM |
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Animals never do this kind of thing. |
aquart |
Jan-23-08 03:07 PM |
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Welcome, Rookie! READ THIS BOOK |
GalleryGod |
Jan-23-08 07:37 AM |
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Michelle Obama is not acting as her husband's attack dog, and is not an ex-president |
rox63 |
Jan-23-08 07:47 AM |
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Answer the Original Post please. |
LulaMay |
Jan-23-08 08:06 AM |
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I was responding to a different post in this thread, not the OP |
rox63 |
Jan-23-08 09:40 AM |
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Alright, how many ex-President's spouses do you see running? My question is still |
Mithreal |
Jan-23-08 02:35 PM |
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That is so painfully disingenuous. |
aquart |
Jan-23-08 03:29 AM |
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I agree. There have been many political familes, JFK & RFK for one. Who would demean that? |
LulaMay |
Jan-23-08 03:48 AM |
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Hi,Rookie! THIS man is the Clitons WORST nightmare. |
GalleryGod |
Jan-23-08 07:40 AM |
#75 |
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LulaMay... |
Andromeda |
Jan-24-08 01:18 AM |
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that is so insulting to women. |
Evergreen Emerald |
Jan-23-08 07:54 AM |
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so you'd tell them to treat men the way they treated women? i can see the 'revenge is sweet' |
VotesForWomen |
Jan-23-08 04:20 PM |
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So is "Benifer" sexist too? |
dkf |
Jan-23-08 02:59 AM |
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It Would be if Jennifer Lopez were running for President. "Clever" how the media adopted that. |
LulaMay |
Jan-23-08 03:14 AM |
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That's Ben Affleck and Jennifer Gardner btw. |
dkf |
Jan-23-08 03:26 AM |
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Hard to keep track of celebrities. I don't pay that much attention. |
LulaMay |
Jan-23-08 03:32 AM |
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Your perception may be based upon faulty reasoning or lack of data. |
Mithreal |
Jan-23-08 03:33 AM |
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I think you need to read the original post. |
dkf |
Jan-23-08 03:54 AM |
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I will repeat that you are making a straw man argument |
Mithreal |
Jan-23-08 04:16 AM |
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Yes, the candidate is running singularly according to you and the poster. |
dkf |
Jan-23-08 04:21 AM |
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According to the law. Senator Clinton is the candidate, not Bill Clinton. |
LulaMay |
Jan-23-08 04:51 AM |
#34 |
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Turn in your blue book,please |
GalleryGod |
Jan-23-08 07:46 AM |
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"Hiding behind her gender to ride on Bill's back?" You're right, I will call that sexist. |
LulaMay |
Jan-23-08 05:04 AM |
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I'm prejudiced against my own gender? |
dkf |
Jan-23-08 05:43 AM |
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Very possible. Women often are in response to the threat of being accused themselves |
LulaMay |
Jan-23-08 07:01 AM |
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As a woman I find her embarrassing...that is where I am coming from. |
dkf |
Jan-24-08 02:06 AM |
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He is LYING again in South Carolina THIS A.M. I just saw the live feed. |
GalleryGod |
Jan-23-08 07:42 AM |
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With contributing support from the apostrophe companies, I guess. |
smalll |
Jan-23-08 03:05 AM |
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Addressing a woman as "Mrs." hasn't been protocol in academia for over 30 years. |
LulaMay |
Jan-23-08 03:21 AM |
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Shocked that she's gotten this far? Really? How extraordinary. |
cali |
Jan-23-08 03:56 AM |
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It is sexist to classify her, a presidential candidate, as simply a wife. The media created this, |
LulaMay |
Jan-23-08 04:16 AM |
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What you're claiming has NOT been nearly as prevalent as |
cali |
Jan-23-08 05:03 AM |
#38 |
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It was on TV all day. Both Michelle and Elizabeth have defended their spouses, |
LulaMay |
Jan-23-08 06:49 AM |
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Sorry,again |
GalleryGod |
Jan-23-08 07:36 AM |
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Self delete |
Andromeda |
Jan-24-08 01:28 AM |
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And yet her own campaign ignores Senator and Clinton and goes with just Hillary. |
JTFrog |
Jan-23-08 05:38 AM |
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I'm shocked because of the level of sexism that still exists, but uplifted to see it weakened. |
LulaMay |
Jan-23-08 04:17 AM |
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I am with you. I was so saddened when the campaign first |
Evergreen Emerald |
Jan-23-08 08:14 AM |
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If it quacks like a duck, sometimes it's a duck. |
Skidmore |
Jan-23-08 04:24 AM |
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There's no point arguing with a self proclaimed sexist duck. Are you okay with racsim too? |
LulaMay |
Jan-23-08 04:40 AM |
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I'll refer you to #24 response by cali, who formulated the situation |
Skidmore |
Jan-23-08 04:49 AM |
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It was not a good or cogent reply to my post. I explained how in my response. |
LulaMay |
Jan-23-08 04:54 AM |
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Perhaps, I don't agree with all aspects of your answer. |
Skidmore |
Jan-23-08 05:06 AM |
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I'm with Skidmore on this. There's nothing more sexist than a woman using her husband |
BerryBush |
Jan-23-08 05:27 AM |
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She left SC to because she considers it lost. Spouses campaign in different areas |
LulaMay |
Jan-23-08 05:37 AM |
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The only people diminishing Hillary Clinton are the |
Skidmore |
Jan-23-08 05:45 AM |
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I don't "squawk" (another sexist comment), and you insult HRC saying she's no RFK or JFK |
LulaMay |
Jan-23-08 06:18 AM |
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What the hell are you talking about? |
Skidmore |
Jan-23-08 07:00 AM |
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Respond to my OP. I said it is sexist for the media to use language that treats her |
LulaMay |
Jan-23-08 07:20 AM |
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I thought I had addressed you OP by observing that |
Skidmore |
Jan-23-08 07:26 AM |
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lol. I completely responded- point by point |
cali |
Jan-23-08 07:42 AM |
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in my soul, and in all honesty, i have thought of barack obama as nothing more than a |
flordehinojos |
Jan-23-08 04:53 AM |
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What I find interesting is that SHE can be attacked |
Bitwit1234 |
Jan-23-08 05:00 AM |
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I don't understand your point. Can you please rephrase it? |
LulaMay |
Jan-23-08 05:05 AM |
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Do you mean that people feel fine attacking her with sexism, but not dare display other prejudices? |
LulaMay |
Jan-23-08 05:16 AM |
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Agreed. And what I find amazing is how she is able to withstand the repeated ugly attacks. |
Iceburg |
Jan-23-08 05:27 AM |
#43 |
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Nonsense. Many people have no problem with strong women, myself included. |
BerryBush |
Jan-23-08 05:29 AM |
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It is a sexist stereotype to say she's an opportunist who rides her husbands coat tails |
LulaMay |
Jan-23-08 05:50 AM |
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Thus confirming my assertion -- thanks. |
Iceburg |
Jan-23-08 06:55 AM |
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Confirming what? You don't make sense. You made sexist remarks and defend them. |
LulaMay |
Jan-23-08 07:04 AM |
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Lulamay ...my comment was directed at the post above yours |
Iceburg |
Jan-23-08 03:27 PM |
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Sorry! I got a bit mixed up on the thread. I'm sort of new at this. |
LulaMay |
Jan-25-08 02:47 AM |
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And yet her own campaign ignores Senator and Clinton and goes with just Hillary. |
JTFrog |
Jan-23-08 05:42 AM |
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It's not sexist to use her first name! All candidates do. Spouses campaign in different areas too. |
LulaMay |
Jan-23-08 05:58 AM |
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Getting away from your argument? Are you saying the media should have higher |
JTFrog |
Jan-23-08 07:20 AM |
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Courtesy? To Hillary? From DU? you're dreaming! |
robbedvoter |
Jan-23-08 06:35 AM |
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Much appreciated....but I DO hope for civil, honest discourse! It helps nobody to take media bait. |
LulaMay |
Jan-23-08 06:54 AM |
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I had always thought |
Zenzic |
Jan-23-08 07:14 AM |
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This is not 'Entertainment Tonight'. It's a Presidental Election. 'Billary' is sexist |
LulaMay |
Jan-23-08 07:28 AM |
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Sorry,LulaMay. It's ALL here...Flawlessly written,Impeccably footnoted |
GalleryGod |
Jan-23-08 07:35 AM |
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What is? You don't include any excerpts, even out of context! |
LulaMay |
Jan-23-08 07:39 AM |
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Try READING it, MS. D+ ...go see the academic dean |
GalleryGod |
Jan-23-08 07:55 AM |
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You are just rude, self important and abusive. Why don't you go home? |
LulaMay |
Jan-23-08 08:25 AM |
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Maybe because his "home" is Free Republic, and since they |
LandOLincoln |
Jan-24-08 02:00 AM |
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Thanks for the tip. |
LulaMay |
Jan-25-08 02:48 AM |
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it's such a handicap having a popular ex president as your defacto running mate |
Magic Rat |
Jan-23-08 07:28 AM |
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It is when media makes sexist inuendo about her role. Please respond to the OP. |
LulaMay |
Jan-23-08 07:34 AM |
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okay. my response. |
Magic Rat |
Jan-23-08 07:50 AM |
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Find me a NON-sexist term for this gal... |
GalleryGod |
Jan-23-08 07:33 AM |
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Senator Clinton, Hillary Rodham Clinton, Hillary, Ms. Clinton, Candidate Clinton |
LulaMay |
Jan-23-08 07:36 AM |
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HRC only goes by sexist titles or slurs in your world? What do you even mean? |
LulaMay |
Jan-23-08 07:44 AM |
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How would you address her? I am confused. |
Mass |
Jan-23-08 07:41 AM |
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Senator Clinton, Senator Obama, Mr. Edwards |
LostinVA |
Jan-23-08 07:44 AM |
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Well, it would be OK if she did not present herself as Bill Clinton's wife first and Senator Clinton |
Mass |
Jan-23-08 07:45 AM |
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She doesn't -- the MSM and certain people on here do |
LostinVA |
Jan-23-08 07:52 AM |
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And all also used on here |
LostinVA |
Jan-23-08 07:42 AM |
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Thank you. I felt it needed to be brought up considering the media field day. |
LulaMay |
Jan-23-08 07:45 AM |
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Good for you,you got a lot of folks to pounce on your vapid,dogearred,RED MEAT, OP |
GalleryGod |
Jan-23-08 07:44 AM |
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Karl, is that you? n/t |
LandOLincoln |
Jan-24-08 01:56 AM |
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This is PC bull$%^#. --- It is what it is whether some like it or not |
democrat2thecore |
Jan-23-08 07:45 AM |
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"Sexism PC crap"? "BillHill" isn't sexist and diminishing that she is the candidate? |
LulaMay |
Jan-23-08 08:00 AM |
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MY sexism? It's sounds like YOU have the sexist hangup. You have to blame it on SOMETHING! -nt |
democrat2thecore |
Jan-23-08 08:02 AM |
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I do have a 'hang-up' about sexism, I despise it, just like I despise all prejudice. |
LulaMay |
Jan-23-08 08:31 AM |
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so when he ran and he said it was a 2-for-1 deal |
Magic Rat |
Jan-23-08 07:51 AM |
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Vanity Fair, December, 1992. First time I read about 2 for 1. |
GalleryGod |
Jan-23-08 07:57 AM |
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ok you hooked me |
GoldieAZ49 |
Jan-25-08 04:20 AM |
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If he did, he welcomed her being an active First Lady. It did not diminish him |
LulaMay |
Jan-23-08 08:23 AM |
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You hit the nail on the head & it bugs the shit out of a lot of people because you're right. |
mtnsnake |
Jan-23-08 08:08 AM |
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Thank you. |
LulaMay |
Jan-23-08 08:28 AM |
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and I thank YOU |
mtnsnake |
Jan-23-08 09:03 AM |
#108 |
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What a big honking wad of hairball pleghm of an argument |
zulchzulu |
Jan-23-08 08:31 AM |
#103 |
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Try reading the rest of the comments that already address these incorrect assumptions |
LulaMay |
Jan-23-08 08:43 AM |
#105 |
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It sounds like you want to hide the fact that Hillary wants to admit she's married to Bill |
zulchzulu |
Jan-23-08 09:45 AM |
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Hello Strawman |
themaguffin |
Jan-23-08 08:47 AM |
#106 |
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Answer the OP points please. I'm getting sleepy from repeatedly making this request. |
LulaMay |
Jan-23-08 08:56 AM |
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It's ridiculous and appalling that |
themaguffin |
Jan-23-08 09:12 AM |
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Mrs. Clinton? Sexist? Bwahahaha! |
Kristi1696 |
Jan-23-08 09:05 AM |
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She refers to herself as "Mrs. Clinton." You are beyond ridiculous. |
Alexander |
Jan-23-08 12:29 PM |
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hillaryclinton.com Refers to her as 'Hillary", "Hillary Rodham Clinton", "Senator Clinton",not "Mrs" |
LulaMay |
Jan-23-08 02:06 PM |
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She took "Mrs. Clinton" when she took her husband's name. You must be quite dense. |
Alexander |
Jan-24-08 12:21 AM |
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It is Hillary's own fault. |
Meldread |
Jan-23-08 03:11 PM |
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Sexist, yes, but it may help her |
Jed Dilligan |
Jan-23-08 03:24 PM |
#119 |
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& a lot of women are motivated by the sexism |
HughMoran |
Jan-23-08 03:44 PM |
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There are plenty of excellent female lawyers. What makes her so special that she might become |
milkyway |
Jan-23-08 03:30 PM |
#121 |
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A new name for Barack and Michelle... |
MetricSystem |
Jan-23-08 03:36 PM |
#122 |
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Love it! Thanks for the laugh. Believe me, it's a welcome relief |
LandOLincoln |
Jan-24-08 01:54 AM |
#135 |
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I agree too. |
HughMoran |
Jan-23-08 03:40 PM |
#123 |
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The media's saying that? Wow. |
zidzi |
Jan-23-08 03:47 PM |
#125 |
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i'm a feminist and i don't see it that way; women's lib is not about dominating men, it's about equa |
VotesForWomen |
Jan-23-08 04:18 PM |
#126 |
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No. Or at least not in every interpretation. |
krkaufman |
Jan-23-08 05:15 PM |
#128 |
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Hi LulaMay, good op, draws out the Hillary haters and makes them transparent |
Mithreal |
Jan-23-08 11:59 PM |
#129 |
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how about the line "I have no problem with a female president, but just not Hillary" |
AGirl |
Jan-24-08 01:27 AM |
#132 |
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She invites it by running on her advisory role during Bill's presidency. |
Nailzberg |
Jan-24-08 01:29 AM |
#134 |
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Bullshit. |
Political Heretic |
Jan-24-08 01:54 AM |
#136 |
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WRONG, WRONG, WRONG!!!! |
hnmnf |
Jan-24-08 02:09 AM |
#140 |
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And calling her "Hillary" is a sexist attack, too! |
Stephanie |
Jan-24-08 02:21 AM |
#141 |
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Have you ever considered defending her on the ISSUES instead of the BS? |
Stephanie |
Jan-24-08 02:30 AM |
#142 |
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She wouldn't be president if it was not for the big dog... |
mdmc |
Jan-25-08 03:02 AM |
#146 |
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