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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-23-08 07:42 AM
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78. lol. I completely responded- point by point
to your disingenous piece. And your response was pathetically weak and simplistic.
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  -"The Clinton's", "Billary", Mrs. Clinton", "Co-Pres" are all Sexist Attacks by the Media LulaMay  Jan-23-08 02:50 AM   #0 
  - I agree.  Mythsaje   Jan-23-08 02:52 AM   #1 
  - Agreed. It detracts from the real issues, one of which is women's inequality! Funny.  LulaMay   Jan-23-08 03:56 AM   #25 
  - Fine with me. I'll just stick to "Soulless Corporate Toady"  jgraz   Jan-23-08 02:52 AM   #2 
  - Name calling is also disrespectful. Facts are better. For the record,  LulaMay   Jan-23-08 02:59 AM   # 
     - OK, here are some facts.  jgraz   Jan-23-08 03:09 AM   #6 
        - She has a long list of achievments. Each candidate has a list of mistakes as well.  LulaMay   Jan-23-08 03:18 AM   #10 
           - Calling someone a corporate toady is not sexist  jgraz   Jan-23-08 03:25 AM   #12 
              - I didn't say it was. I said it was disrespectful. She has a record that deserves better.  LulaMay   Jan-23-08 03:41 AM   #21 
  - If I wanted to teach my daughters what not to do in their gain to equality,  FrenchieCat   Jan-23-08 02:54 AM   #3 
  - All candidates campaign with their spouses. She has a record on her own merits.  LulaMay   Jan-23-08 03:09 AM   #7 
  - What is her record?  FrenchieCat   Jan-23-08 03:15 AM   #9 
  - A lawyer, advocate for children and the disadvantaged, the first person to try and get health care  LulaMay   Jan-23-08 03:31 AM   #16 
     - She's not my favorite candidate  Mythsaje   Jan-23-08 04:15 AM   #26 
     - Read a little history. She certainly was NOT  cali   Jan-23-08 07:37 AM   #73 
     - Lame defense of Hillary  GoldieAZ49   Jan-25-08 03:00 AM   #145 
  - Sorry but running on Bill's coattails doesn't count as "earning it"  knight_of_the_star   Jan-23-08 12:25 PM   #113 
  - If Michelle Obama were running for President  Mithreal   Jan-23-08 03:27 AM   #14 
  - It's okay. You'll get the hang of it.  aquart   Jan-23-08 03:31 AM   #17 
  - I prefer civil arguments and debate with facts rather than behaving like animals.  LulaMay   Jan-23-08 03:39 AM   #20 
     - QUESTION: How did it take you 7 1/2 YEARS to find D.U. ?  GalleryGod   Jan-23-08 07:48 AM   #87 
     - I had cancer, neck surgery, & my mother had leukemia, which all kept me busy/tired until recently.  LulaMay   Jan-23-08 08:05 AM   #96 
     - Animals never do this kind of thing.  aquart   Jan-23-08 03:07 PM   #117 
  - Welcome, Rookie! READ THIS BOOK  GalleryGod   Jan-23-08 07:37 AM   #72 
  - Michelle Obama is not acting as her husband's attack dog, and is not an ex-president  rox63   Jan-23-08 07:47 AM   #86 
     - Answer the Original Post please.  LulaMay   Jan-23-08 08:06 AM   #97 
     - I was responding to a different post in this thread, not the OP  rox63   Jan-23-08 09:40 AM   #111 
     - Alright, how many ex-President's spouses do you see running? My question is still  Mithreal   Jan-23-08 02:35 PM   #116 
  - That is so painfully disingenuous.  aquart   Jan-23-08 03:29 AM   #15 
  - I agree. There have been many political familes, JFK & RFK for one. Who would demean that?  LulaMay   Jan-23-08 03:48 AM   #22 
     - Hi,Rookie! THIS man is the Clitons WORST nightmare.  GalleryGod   Jan-23-08 07:40 AM   #75 
     - LulaMay...  Andromeda   Jan-24-08 01:18 AM   #131 
  - that is so insulting to women.  Evergreen Emerald   Jan-23-08 07:54 AM   #91 
  - so you'd tell them to treat men the way they treated women? i can see the 'revenge is sweet'  VotesForWomen   Jan-23-08 04:20 PM   #127 
  - So is "Benifer" sexist too?  dkf   Jan-23-08 02:59 AM   #4 
  - It Would be if Jennifer Lopez were running for President. "Clever" how the media adopted that.  LulaMay   Jan-23-08 03:14 AM   #8 
     - That's Ben Affleck and Jennifer Gardner btw.  dkf   Jan-23-08 03:26 AM   #13 
     - Hard to keep track of celebrities. I don't pay that much attention.  LulaMay   Jan-23-08 03:32 AM   #18 
     - Your perception may be based upon faulty reasoning or lack of data.  Mithreal   Jan-23-08 03:33 AM   #19 
     - I think you need to read the original post.  dkf   Jan-23-08 03:54 AM   #23 
        - I will repeat that you are making a straw man argument  Mithreal   Jan-23-08 04:16 AM   #27 
           - Yes, the candidate is running singularly according to you and the poster.  dkf   Jan-23-08 04:21 AM   #30 
              - According to the law. Senator Clinton is the candidate, not Bill Clinton.  LulaMay   Jan-23-08 04:51 AM   #34 
                 - Turn in your blue book,please  GalleryGod   Jan-23-08 07:46 AM   #85 
     - "Hiding behind her gender to ride on Bill's back?" You're right, I will call that sexist.  LulaMay   Jan-23-08 05:04 AM   #39 
        - I'm prejudiced against my own gender?  dkf   Jan-23-08 05:43 AM   #49 
           - Very possible. Women often are in response to the threat of being accused themselves  LulaMay   Jan-23-08 07:01 AM   #59 
              - As a woman I find her embarrassing...that is where I am coming from.  dkf   Jan-24-08 02:06 AM   #139 
     - He is LYING again in South Carolina THIS A.M. I just saw the live feed.  GalleryGod   Jan-23-08 07:42 AM   #77 
  - With contributing support from the apostrophe companies, I guess.  smalll   Jan-23-08 03:05 AM   #5 
  - Addressing a woman as "Mrs." hasn't been protocol in academia for over 30 years.  LulaMay   Jan-23-08 03:21 AM   #11 
  - Shocked that she's gotten this far? Really? How extraordinary.  cali   Jan-23-08 03:56 AM   #24 
  - It is sexist to classify her, a presidential candidate, as simply a wife. The media created this,  LulaMay   Jan-23-08 04:16 AM   #28 
  - What you're claiming has NOT been nearly as prevalent as  cali   Jan-23-08 05:03 AM   #38 
  - It was on TV all day. Both Michelle and Elizabeth have defended their spouses,  LulaMay   Jan-23-08 06:49 AM   #55 
     - Sorry,again  GalleryGod   Jan-23-08 07:36 AM   #71 
        - Self delete  Andromeda   Jan-24-08 01:28 AM   #133 
  - And yet her own campaign ignores Senator and Clinton and goes with just Hillary.  JTFrog   Jan-23-08 05:38 AM   #47 
  - I'm shocked because of the level of sexism that still exists, but uplifted to see it weakened.  LulaMay   Jan-23-08 04:17 AM   #29 
     - I am with you. I was so saddened when the campaign first  Evergreen Emerald   Jan-23-08 08:14 AM   #99 
  - If it quacks like a duck, sometimes it's a duck.  Skidmore   Jan-23-08 04:24 AM   #31 
  - There's no point arguing with a self proclaimed sexist duck. Are you okay with racsim too?  LulaMay   Jan-23-08 04:40 AM   #32 
     - I'll refer you to #24 response by cali, who formulated the situation  Skidmore   Jan-23-08 04:49 AM   #33 
        - It was not a good or cogent reply to my post. I explained how in my response.  LulaMay   Jan-23-08 04:54 AM   #36 
           - Perhaps, I don't agree with all aspects of your answer.  Skidmore   Jan-23-08 05:06 AM   #41 
           - I'm with Skidmore on this. There's nothing more sexist than a woman using her husband  BerryBush   Jan-23-08 05:27 AM   #44 
           - She left SC to because she considers it lost. Spouses campaign in different areas  LulaMay   Jan-23-08 05:37 AM   #46 
              - The only people diminishing Hillary Clinton are the  Skidmore   Jan-23-08 05:45 AM   #50 
                 - I don't "squawk" (another sexist comment), and you insult HRC saying she's no RFK or JFK  LulaMay   Jan-23-08 06:18 AM   #53 
                    - What the hell are you talking about?  Skidmore   Jan-23-08 07:00 AM   #58 
                       - Respond to my OP. I said it is sexist for the media to use language that treats her  LulaMay   Jan-23-08 07:20 AM   #63 
                          - I thought I had addressed you OP by observing that  Skidmore   Jan-23-08 07:26 AM   #64 
           - lol. I completely responded- point by point  cali   Jan-23-08 07:42 AM   #78 
  - in my soul, and in all honesty, i have thought of barack obama as nothing more than a  flordehinojos   Jan-23-08 04:53 AM   #35 
  - What I find interesting is that SHE can be attacked  Bitwit1234   Jan-23-08 05:00 AM   #37 
  - I don't understand your point. Can you please rephrase it?  LulaMay   Jan-23-08 05:05 AM   #40 
  - Do you mean that people feel fine attacking her with sexism, but not dare display other prejudices?  LulaMay   Jan-23-08 05:16 AM   #42 
  - Agreed. And what I find amazing is how she is able to withstand the repeated ugly attacks.  Iceburg   Jan-23-08 05:27 AM   #43 
     - Nonsense. Many people have no problem with strong women, myself included.  BerryBush   Jan-23-08 05:29 AM   #45 
        - It is a sexist stereotype to say she's an opportunist who rides her husbands coat tails  LulaMay   Jan-23-08 05:50 AM   #51 
        - Thus confirming my assertion -- thanks.  Iceburg   Jan-23-08 06:55 AM   #57 
           - Confirming what? You don't make sense. You made sexist remarks and defend them.  LulaMay   Jan-23-08 07:04 AM   #60 
              - Lulamay comment was directed at the post above yours  Iceburg   Jan-23-08 03:27 PM   #120 
                 - Sorry! I got a bit mixed up on the thread. I'm sort of new at this.  LulaMay   Jan-25-08 02:47 AM   #143 
  - And yet her own campaign ignores Senator and Clinton and goes with just Hillary.  JTFrog   Jan-23-08 05:42 AM   #48 
  - It's not sexist to use her first name! All candidates do. Spouses campaign in different areas too.  LulaMay   Jan-23-08 05:58 AM   #52 
     - Getting away from your argument? Are you saying the media should have higher  JTFrog   Jan-23-08 07:20 AM   #62 
  - Courtesy? To Hillary? From DU? you're dreaming!  robbedvoter   Jan-23-08 06:35 AM   #54 
  - Much appreciated....but I DO hope for civil, honest discourse! It helps nobody to take media bait.  LulaMay   Jan-23-08 06:54 AM   #56 
  - I had always thought  Zenzic   Jan-23-08 07:14 AM   #61 
  - This is not 'Entertainment Tonight'. It's a Presidental Election. 'Billary' is sexist  LulaMay   Jan-23-08 07:28 AM   #66 
     - Sorry,LulaMay. It's ALL here...Flawlessly written,Impeccably footnoted  GalleryGod   Jan-23-08 07:35 AM   #69 
        - What is? You don't include any excerpts, even out of context!  LulaMay   Jan-23-08 07:39 AM   #74 
           - Try READING it, MS. D+ ...go see the academic dean  GalleryGod   Jan-23-08 07:55 AM   #92 
              - You are just rude, self important and abusive. Why don't you go home?  LulaMay   Jan-23-08 08:25 AM   #101 
                 - Maybe because his "home" is Free Republic, and since they  LandOLincoln   Jan-24-08 02:00 AM   #138 
                    - Thanks for the tip.  LulaMay   Jan-25-08 02:48 AM   #144 
  - it's such a handicap having a popular ex president as your defacto running mate  Magic Rat   Jan-23-08 07:28 AM   #65 
  - It is when media makes sexist inuendo about her role. Please respond to the OP.  LulaMay   Jan-23-08 07:34 AM   #68 
     - okay. my response.  Magic Rat   Jan-23-08 07:50 AM   #88 
  - Find me a NON-sexist term for this gal...  GalleryGod   Jan-23-08 07:33 AM   #67 
  - Senator Clinton, Hillary Rodham Clinton, Hillary, Ms. Clinton, Candidate Clinton  LulaMay   Jan-23-08 07:36 AM   #70 
  - HRC only goes by sexist titles or slurs in your world? What do you even mean?  LulaMay   Jan-23-08 07:44 AM   # 
  - How would you address her? I am confused.  Mass   Jan-23-08 07:41 AM   #76 
  - Senator Clinton, Senator Obama, Mr. Edwards  LostinVA   Jan-23-08 07:44 AM   #80 
     - Well, it would be OK if she did not present herself as Bill Clinton's wife first and Senator Clinton  Mass   Jan-23-08 07:45 AM   #84 
        - She doesn't -- the MSM and certain people on here do  LostinVA   Jan-23-08 07:52 AM   #90 
  - And all also used on here  LostinVA   Jan-23-08 07:42 AM   #79 
  - Thank you. I felt it needed to be brought up considering the media field day.  LulaMay   Jan-23-08 07:45 AM   #83 
  - Good for you,you got a lot of folks to pounce on your vapid,dogearred,RED MEAT, OP  GalleryGod   Jan-23-08 07:44 AM   #81 
  - Karl, is that you? n/t  LandOLincoln   Jan-24-08 01:56 AM   #137 
  - This is PC bull$%^#. --- It is what it is whether some like it or not  democrat2thecore   Jan-23-08 07:45 AM   #82 
  - "Sexism PC crap"? "BillHill" isn't sexist and diminishing that she is the candidate?  LulaMay   Jan-23-08 08:00 AM   #94 
     - MY sexism? It's sounds like YOU have the sexist hangup. You have to blame it on SOMETHING! -nt  democrat2thecore   Jan-23-08 08:02 AM   #95 
        - I do have a 'hang-up' about sexism, I despise it, just like I despise all prejudice.  LulaMay   Jan-23-08 08:31 AM   #104 
  - so when he ran and he said it was a 2-for-1 deal  Magic Rat   Jan-23-08 07:51 AM   #89 
  - Vanity Fair, December, 1992. First time I read about 2 for 1.  GalleryGod   Jan-23-08 07:57 AM   #93 
  - ok you hooked me  GoldieAZ49   Jan-25-08 04:20 AM   #147 
  - If he did, he welcomed her being an active First Lady. It did not diminish him  LulaMay   Jan-23-08 08:23 AM   #100 
  - You hit the nail on the head & it bugs the shit out of a lot of people because you're right.  mtnsnake   Jan-23-08 08:08 AM   #98 
  - Thank you.  LulaMay   Jan-23-08 08:28 AM   #102 
     - and I thank YOU  mtnsnake   Jan-23-08 09:03 AM   #108 
  - What a big honking wad of hairball pleghm of an argument  zulchzulu   Jan-23-08 08:31 AM   #103 
  - Try reading the rest of the comments that already address these incorrect assumptions  LulaMay   Jan-23-08 08:43 AM   #105 
     - It sounds like you want to hide the fact that Hillary wants to admit she's married to Bill  zulchzulu   Jan-23-08 09:45 AM   #112 
  - Hello Strawman  themaguffin   Jan-23-08 08:47 AM   #106 
  - Answer the OP points please. I'm getting sleepy from repeatedly making this request.  LulaMay   Jan-23-08 08:56 AM   #107 
     - It's ridiculous and appalling that  themaguffin   Jan-23-08 09:12 AM   #110 
  - Mrs. Clinton? Sexist? Bwahahaha!  Kristi1696   Jan-23-08 09:05 AM   #109 
  - She refers to herself as "Mrs. Clinton." You are beyond ridiculous.  Alexander   Jan-23-08 12:29 PM   #114 
  - Refers to her as 'Hillary", "Hillary Rodham Clinton", "Senator Clinton",not "Mrs"  LulaMay   Jan-23-08 02:06 PM   #115 
     - She took "Mrs. Clinton" when she took her husband's name. You must be quite dense.  Alexander   Jan-24-08 12:21 AM   #130 
  - It is Hillary's own fault.  Meldread   Jan-23-08 03:11 PM   #118 
  - Sexist, yes, but it may help her  Jed Dilligan   Jan-23-08 03:24 PM   #119 
  - & a lot of women are motivated by the sexism  HughMoran   Jan-23-08 03:44 PM   #124 
  - There are plenty of excellent female lawyers. What makes her so special that she might become  milkyway   Jan-23-08 03:30 PM   #121 
  - A new name for Barack and Michelle...  MetricSystem   Jan-23-08 03:36 PM   #122 
  - Love it! Thanks for the laugh. Believe me, it's a welcome relief  LandOLincoln   Jan-24-08 01:54 AM   #135 
  - I agree too.  HughMoran   Jan-23-08 03:40 PM   #123 
  - The media's saying that? Wow.  zidzi   Jan-23-08 03:47 PM   #125 
  - i'm a feminist and i don't see it that way; women's lib is not about dominating men, it's about equa  VotesForWomen   Jan-23-08 04:18 PM   #126 
  - No. Or at least not in every interpretation.  krkaufman   Jan-23-08 05:15 PM   #128 
  - Hi LulaMay, good op, draws out the Hillary haters and makes them transparent  Mithreal   Jan-23-08 11:59 PM   #129 
  - how about the line "I have no problem with a female president, but just not Hillary"  AGirl   Jan-24-08 01:27 AM   #132 
  - She invites it by running on her advisory role during Bill's presidency.  Nailzberg   Jan-24-08 01:29 AM   #134 
  - Bullshit.  Political Heretic   Jan-24-08 01:54 AM   #136 
  - WRONG, WRONG, WRONG!!!!  hnmnf   Jan-24-08 02:09 AM   #140 
  - And calling her "Hillary" is a sexist attack, too!  Stephanie   Jan-24-08 02:21 AM   #141 
  - Have you ever considered defending her on the ISSUES instead of the BS?  Stephanie   Jan-24-08 02:30 AM   #142 
  - She wouldn't be president if it was not for the big dog...  mdmc   Jan-25-08 03:02 AM   #146 

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