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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-21-08 11:59 PM
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96. OMG
You were so vulgar during the debate! :hi:
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  -Hillary tries to paint Obama as Pro-Sex Shops = the most desperate, pathetic ploy EVER K Gardner  Jan-21-08 09:30 PM   #0 
  - no kidding! Especially after Bill's adventures in the national media  ursi   Jan-21-08 09:31 PM   #1 
  - Anyone named Clinton should avoid running as a Knight of Morality  Konza   Jan-21-08 09:38 PM   #27 
     - She was a Brave gal--to mention the word SEX on TV  rodeodance   Jan-21-08 09:58 PM   #60 
  - umm ...  WillTheGoober   Jan-21-08 09:31 PM   #2 
  - Do you even know what a present vote is? Go read up on it and get back to me. I'm sick of this shit.  K Gardner   Jan-21-08 09:33 PM   #5 
  - OK ...  WillTheGoober   Jan-21-08 09:49 PM   #48 
  - Can you tell me what Hillary said about sex shops? I have to admit I  CTyankee   Jan-22-08 09:22 AM   #108 
     - She said he voted "present" on a bill that kept sex shops away from schools.  in_cog_ni_to   Jan-22-08 05:47 PM   #111 
        - I did miss that. I've been trying to figure out this voting "present"  CTyankee   Jan-23-08 08:01 AM   #129 
  - Justifying negative attacks because the Republicans will make them too?  chascarrillo   Jan-21-08 09:33 PM   #6 
  - It's true ...  WillTheGoober   Jan-21-08 09:50 PM   #49 
     - Which means that you have no shame either.  chascarrillo   Jan-21-08 10:15 PM   #71 
        - Listen ...  WillTheGoober   Jan-23-08 06:16 PM   #131 
  - Notice... No Defense Of Hillary In That Statement  allinktup   Jan-21-08 11:52 PM   #91 
  - No, she confronted his refusal to take a stance.  jlake   Jan-21-08 09:32 PM   #3 
  - That is NOT what a present vote is. Again, do your homework and get back to me on the accusation she  K Gardner   Jan-21-08 09:34 PM   #12 
  - Thanks. I know the procedure..... just ain't buying the stories from BO  jlake   Jan-21-08 09:35 PM   #17 
  - You have proven by your comments that you know nothing about Illinois and it legislature  Windy   Jan-21-08 09:37 PM   #23 
     - OMG. I certainly understand it. His answers do not fly.  jlake   Jan-21-08 09:39 PM   #29 
  - A present vote is saying you're chicken shit.  avaistheone1   Jan-21-08 10:10 PM   #69 
     - A present vote is saying a bill isn't worth a vote  allinktup   Jan-21-08 11:54 PM   #94 
        - That's not all it says. It also says there may be something in it that needs to be tweaked/changed,  in_cog_ni_to   Jan-22-08 05:58 PM   #115 
  - There were 100 examples she COULD have used to make her point  Impeachment_Monkey   Jan-21-08 09:34 PM   #13 
  - No, it was a strong point to make.... seems like a clear issue to me, and BO couldn't make a choice.  jlake   Jan-21-08 09:36 PM   #20 
     - Show the opponents weaknesses.  rodeodance   Jan-21-08 09:57 PM   #58 
     - Obama pointed out what "present" means. Did you hear him?  Impeachment_Monkey   Jan-22-08 01:39 AM   #101 
        - I heard him. I didn't buy his BS.  jlake   Jan-22-08 09:16 AM   #106 
           - Let me guess why you say that.. oh nevermind .. I see the pic of Hillary in your msg. nt  Impeachment_Monkey   Jan-22-08 01:59 PM   #109 
  - or this one  allinktup   Jan-21-08 11:53 PM   #92 
  - Wait a minute- aren't didlos already illegal in South Carolina  depakid   Jan-21-08 09:33 PM   #4 
  - No, that's Alabama.  Jamastiene   Jan-22-08 06:00 PM   #118 
  - I agree. I couldn't believe my ears when she said that. Very low blow and uncalled for nt  Impeachment_Monkey   Jan-21-08 09:33 PM   #7 
  - Scary black man!  Bonobo   Jan-21-08 09:33 PM   #8 
  - I am watching John Edwards criticizing Obama for those "present" votes.....  suston96   Jan-21-08 09:33 PM   #9 
  - LOL.. he criticized on the merits of Present Votes, period. It wasn't an ad hoc attack using "sex  K Gardner   Jan-21-08 10:05 PM   #66 
  - Didn't Edwards miss 16% of all the votes in his Senate career  karynnj   Jan-22-08 07:23 PM   #127 
  - I agree -- That was a skeezy attack  Armstead   Jan-21-08 09:33 PM   #10 
  - I missed the debate -- can you fill me in?  Starbucks Anarchist   Jan-21-08 09:34 PM   #11 
  - I'm going to have to do some research on the actual vote she was referencing, but I'm certain this  K Gardner   Jan-21-08 09:36 PM   #21 
     - I see.  Starbucks Anarchist   Jan-21-08 09:44 PM   #41 
     - If Obama didn't like the language, then he should have voted no  creeksneakers2   Jan-21-08 10:41 PM   #77 
  - Get a grip on yourself.  Rockholm   Jan-21-08 09:35 PM   #14 
  - Thank you for your concern. However, I'm not the one who made the charge on national TV.  K Gardner   Jan-21-08 09:39 PM   #31 
     - Please.  Rockholm   Jan-21-08 09:43 PM   #37 
  - Facts are a funny thing...  1corona4u   Jan-21-08 09:35 PM   #15 
  - Senator Obama is going to have a hard time in the GE if he can't explain the present votes  hulklogan   Jan-21-08 09:35 PM   #16 
  - That's a new one: She did him a favor by accusing him of being in favor of sex shops. He actually  K Gardner   Jan-21-08 09:38 PM   #28 
     - I don't care what Hillary's supporters were doing, it was a disgusting attack  hulklogan   Jan-21-08 09:42 PM   #35 
     - Thanks for at least agreeing it was a disgusting attack ! We do agree on that and I agree with  K Gardner   Jan-21-08 09:52 PM   #52 
        - We need to be prepared for everything. There should be nothing  hulklogan   Jan-21-08 10:00 PM   #62 
     - Rep. Clyburn said today Obama has to buck up. I agree.  rodeodance   Jan-21-08 09:54 PM   #55 
  - Just one of many despicable moments for her  Mutineer   Jan-21-08 09:35 PM   #18 
  - that was beneath contempt, but I'm sure HRC people think its AOK n/t  Windy   Jan-21-08 09:36 PM   #19 
  - Yes, of course they do. Anything to win, yanno.  K Gardner   Jan-21-08 09:37 PM   #24 
  - I know what a "Present" Vote is, particularly 130 Present Votes...  styersc   Jan-21-08 09:37 PM   #22 
  - I guess I'll have to get the info for you...  Windy   Jan-21-08 09:43 PM   #36 
  - This is from TPM/Josh Marshall (who's pretty pro- HRC )  mojowork_n   Jan-21-08 10:00 PM   # 
     - Thanks for posting this ! Excellent article.  K Gardner   Jan-21-08 10:02 PM   #63 
     - Thanks n/t  Jennifer C   Jan-21-08 10:17 PM   #73 
  - "Defend that, if you can."  AtomicKitten   Jan-21-08 09:37 PM   #25 
  - Obama can't take a stand.  AX10   Jan-21-08 09:37 PM   #26 
  - Like Hillary did on Iraq and Kyl/Lieberman? That kind of stand? wow, I forgot!!! n/t  Windy   Jan-21-08 09:45 PM   #44 
  - sorry, but the 'present' votes are troublesome  amborin   Jan-21-08 09:39 PM   #30 
  - Making a valid point by using the example of a sex shop and children??  K Gardner   Jan-21-08 09:41 PM   #34 
  - facts on "present" votes in Ilinois.  Windy   Jan-21-08 09:44 PM   #40 
     - Thanks for posting this :-)  K Gardner   Jan-21-08 09:51 PM   #50 
  - HRC does not play nice, that's for damn sure!!!  IsItJustMe   Jan-21-08 09:40 PM   #32 
  - That's why we can't bitch when they call her a crack smoking lesbian  Konza   Jan-21-08 09:44 PM   #38 
     - "crack smoking lesbian?"  Jamastiene   Jan-22-08 06:05 PM   #119 
  - you lost me- what sex shops in illinois crap is she talking about?  madrchsod   Jan-21-08 09:40 PM   #33 
  - I have no idea what she was talking about. She didn't give details except for "SEX SHOP" and  K Gardner   Jan-21-08 09:45 PM   #43 
     - She is smart gal--good sound-bites.  rodeodance   Jan-21-08 09:48 PM   #47 
     - diabolically clever are the words that come to mind  aint_no_life_nowhere   Jan-21-08 10:47 PM   #79 
     - i`m really fucking tried of people thinking they know  madrchsod   Jan-21-08 09:53 PM   #53 
  - She needs to apologize? For calling him on NOT taking a stand  MagsDem   Jan-21-08 09:44 PM   #39 
  - ha ha--Obama best buck and learn how to explain his voting  rodeodance   Jan-21-08 09:44 PM   #42 
  - I'm glad you think this is humorous. That is very telling in itself.  K Gardner   Jan-21-08 09:46 PM   #45 
     - what is the issue for you--that Hill brought it up Or that Obama did not have good response??  rodeodance   Jan-21-08 09:52 PM   #51 
        - He did have a response. Evidently no one was listening, or.. the legislative function of  K Gardner   Jan-21-08 09:56 PM   #56 
           - yes,--good strategy by the comback gal.  rodeodance   Jan-21-08 10:00 PM   #61 
  - Imagine that Hillary following a scorched earth methodology!  rufus dog   Jan-21-08 09:46 PM   #46 
  - You shouldn't smoke that shit.  Hoof Hearted   Jan-21-08 09:54 PM   #54 
  - I'm still confused about the ILlinois present vote.... I was hoping to be  electron_blue   Jan-21-08 09:56 PM   #57 
  - Agreed. The entire issue is going to need to be addressed in a way people can understand it.  K Gardner   Jan-21-08 09:57 PM   #59 
  - waste of time- they only hear what they want.  madrchsod   Jan-21-08 10:05 PM   #65 
     - Agreed.  K Gardner   Jan-21-08 10:06 PM   #67 
  - read post 44  madrchsod   Jan-21-08 10:02 PM   #64 
  - Why? What does Iraq have to do with this?  electron_blue   Jan-22-08 08:26 AM   #104 
  - OK, here's the whole story,  mojowork_n   Jan-21-08 10:12 PM   #70 
  - His campaign apparently said something different  wlucinda   Jan-21-08 10:25 PM   #75 
     - That's entirely consistent with his explanation during the debate.  mojowork_n   Jan-21-08 11:48 PM   #89 
        - I am aware of that. I'm not in the habit of posting links to material I haven't read.  wlucinda   Jan-21-08 11:54 PM   #93 
        - So why not just vote No?  electron_blue   Jan-22-08 08:27 AM   #105 
        - Corrections! Woo-Hooo!  Nailzberg   Jan-23-08 06:22 PM   #132 
  - Here's How I think it works  divineorder   Jan-21-08 11:47 PM   #88 
     - Obama introduced the bill. Nasty Repug amended.  ellisonz   Jan-22-08 01:52 AM   #102 
  - There is a mention of it here....and the whole article is worth a read  wlucinda   Jan-21-08 10:08 PM   #68 
  - Thanks for finding this Lucinda !  K Gardner   Jan-21-08 10:15 PM   #72 
  - I'm still trying to find the exact item at the IL General Assembly web page  wlucinda   Jan-21-08 10:19 PM   #74 
     - 92nd Assembly. SB0609  Nailzberg   Jan-21-08 11:49 PM   #90 
        - Thank you!  wlucinda   Jan-21-08 11:59 PM   #97 
  - Back in December, they reported that it passed the senate.  Nailzberg   Jan-21-08 11:18 PM   #85 
     - I saw the notation. Good for you for taking the time to correct them!  wlucinda   Jan-22-08 12:57 AM   #99 
  - kick and rec...nt  mckeown1128   Jan-21-08 10:26 PM   #76 
  - It was unnecessary  Bleachers7   Jan-21-08 10:42 PM   #78 
  - "If Senator Clinton can't discern a legislative strategy, she isn't fit to be President."  ccbombs   Jan-21-08 10:53 PM   #80 
  - and a pretty sorry one, I might add.  depakid   Jan-21-08 10:55 PM   #81 
     - If he says it enough they will.  ccbombs   Jan-21-08 11:14 PM   #84 
  - Please don't conclude that just because I disagree with your  creeksneakers2   Jan-21-08 11:11 PM   #82 
  - Creek, my issue really wasn't about the present votes. I understand it is a  K Gardner   Jan-22-08 07:30 PM   #128 
  - hear hear.  Bread and Circus   Jan-21-08 11:12 PM   #83 
  - Clintons = LUST for power  SecularNATION   Jan-21-08 11:22 PM   #86 
  - It was a true low blow  Samantha   Jan-21-08 11:24 PM   #87 
  - So... NONE of you can actually defend her  allinktup   Jan-21-08 11:56 PM   #95 
  - OMG  HughMoran   Jan-21-08 11:59 PM   #96 
  - Cool!  fujiyama   Jan-22-08 12:04 AM   #98 
  - Not if a lot of us  zidzi   Jan-22-08 01:55 AM   #103 
  - I missed the debate. Are we getting mandated sex shops?  leftstreet   Jan-22-08 01:04 AM   #100 
  - DU Has Changed A Lot  DemocratSinceBirth   Jan-22-08 09:20 AM   #107 
  - All she is saying is he didn't vote for this measure.  Jim4Wes   Jan-22-08 02:07 PM   #110 
  - If Obambi can't handle his record being examined he shouldn't have lied about Edwards/Hill's records  jackson_dem   Jan-22-08 05:49 PM   #112 
  - Out of all his supposed "present" votes, why mention one about sex?  aint_no_life_nowhere   Jan-22-08 05:50 PM   #113 
  - Bingo. Edwards asked the question in a dignified manner, like a presidential candidate would.  K Gardner   Jan-22-08 05:52 PM   #114 
  - I'm sick of THIS shit already.  Jamastiene   Jan-22-08 05:58 PM   #116 
  - Sorry to wreck your premise, but I'm voting for Edwards. However, I'm sick of dirty  K Gardner   Jan-22-08 06:00 PM   #117 
     - Are you not the same person who posted this?  William769   Jan-22-08 06:09 PM   #121 
        - Uh.. I posted an article, not my opinion. It was for people to read if they wanted. Sorry  K Gardner   Jan-22-08 06:19 PM   #122 
           - But you found time to post in other threads!  William769   Jan-22-08 06:26 PM   #123 
              - Let me guess, you're 16 and just got home from your special school. Nice !  K Gardner   Jan-22-08 06:31 PM   #125 
                 - Just keep digging that hole!  William769   Jan-22-08 06:36 PM   #126 
  - Then he should not have voted present.  William769   Jan-22-08 06:07 PM   #120 
  - Obama handled her graceless smear like an adult. This will backfire on Hillary bigtime.  David Zephyr   Jan-22-08 06:29 PM   #124 
  - It's Hillary's fault Obama didn't vote to keep sex shops away from public schools? Link?  MethuenProgressive   Jan-23-08 08:07 AM   #130 

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