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85. Oh, I beg to differ
I'm guessing you weren't alive during the '76 campaign.

Carter took a lot of flack from many northern liberals (mainly supporters of Udall, Church, and Harris) for his overt displays of religiosity. Many northerners were in a tizzy, thinking he was a stealth version of George Wallace.

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  -Frankly, Senator Obama, I do not want evangelical bigots voting for my candidate. LibraLiz1973  Jan-21-08 08:54 PM   #0 
  - I am a dem and a church goer and your comments are  oviedodem   Jan-21-08 08:55 PM   # 
  - welcome to DU  dwickham   Jan-21-08 08:56 PM   #3 
  - Pardon me. But what did you find ANTI faith about my statements?  LibraLiz1973   Jan-21-08 08:59 PM   #12 
     - You wrote anothing anti-faith  LostinVA   Jan-22-08 08:58 AM   #100 
  - Are you a evangelical right wing freako or a Fucktard?  RetroLounge   Jan-21-08 08:58 PM   #7 
  - SURE you're a DEM...and, NO, if that's YOUR view - then you can go to the HELL of your BELIEFS!  TankLV   Jan-21-08 08:59 PM   #13 
  - There are many evangelicals who care about social justice!  midlife_mo_Jo   Jan-21-08 09:09 PM   #32 
  - And they are not included in "evangelical bigots"  Chovexani   Jan-21-08 09:18 PM   #48 
     - Oy Vey... thankfully some people understood the OP.  LibraLiz1973   Jan-21-08 09:20 PM   #54 
     - It's obvious the OP doesn't want Obama courting evangelicals. Period.  midlife_mo_Jo   Jan-21-08 09:25 PM   #64 
     - Who said eveangelical Bigots during the Debate No one. You are the first to use that term.  Perky   Jan-21-08 09:37 PM   #71 
  - Welcome to the DU, oviedodem.  David Zephyr   Jan-21-08 09:18 PM   #49 
  - Wow --  WillTheGoober   Jan-21-08 08:55 PM   #1 
  - As long as it gets a Dem in office  simskl   Jan-21-08 08:56 PM   #2 
  - No thanks. I don't want to court those misogynist homophobes either. (the freaky ones i mean)  krabigirl   Jan-21-08 09:47 PM   #74 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Jan-21-08 08:57 PM   # 
  - So you're a Jew and a right-wing evangelical christian?  readmoreoften   Jan-21-08 09:00 PM   #15 
     - I'm a Reform Jew and took no offense at all to the OP!  bullwinkle428   Jan-21-08 09:05 PM   #25 
     - Its the view of some that religion is silly and disgusting.  Wolsh   Jan-21-08 09:16 PM   #43 
  - We've been screaming for liberal Christians to stand up for years  sandnsea   Jan-21-08 08:57 PM   #4 
  - LIBERAL Christians. He was talking about EVANGELICAL Christians  LibraLiz1973   Jan-21-08 08:58 PM   #9 
  - wasn't JImmy Carter an evangelical? n/t  orangepeel68   Jan-21-08 09:02 PM   #19 
  - indeed he IS-  Bluerthanblue   Jan-21-08 09:27 PM   #67 
  - oops! I didn't mean to start a rumor of his demise  orangepeel68   Jan-21-08 09:29 PM   #68 
     - heh-  Bluerthanblue   Jan-21-08 10:26 PM   #82 
  - Carter didn't wear his religion on his sleeve and pander it the way Obama does.  avaistheone1   Jan-21-08 10:28 PM   #83 
     - Oh, I beg to differ  BlueDogDemocratNH   Jan-21-08 10:31 PM   #85 
        - I don't think so. Link please....  avaistheone1   Jan-21-08 10:34 PM   #88 
           - Read "Marathon"  BlueDogDemocratNH   Jan-21-08 10:57 PM   #91 
              - Actually I was involved in Carter's '76 campaign and lived in Mass  avaistheone1   Jan-21-08 11:03 PM   #93 
                 - A bigger issue in Florida  BlueDogDemocratNH   Jan-21-08 11:11 PM   #94 
  - Who did you think they were going to go talk to??  sandnsea   Jan-21-08 09:03 PM   #23 
  - let us know when he opens a dialogue with RACISTS...  TankLV   Jan-21-08 09:22 PM   #60 
  - I think you may not know what "evangelical" means  dmesg   Jan-22-08 04:31 AM   #95 
  - Liberal Christians - not Bigot Christians like Obama has been racking up on his side.  mondo joe   Jan-21-08 09:03 PM   #21 
  - It takes liberal Christians to go change the bigot Christians  sandnsea   Jan-21-08 09:04 PM   #24 
     - Oh nice strategy - you mean Obama is CHANGING McClurkin?  mondo joe   Jan-21-08 09:06 PM   #26 
        - Yes he goes into black churches and confronts homophobia  sandnsea   Jan-21-08 09:07 PM   #29 
           - He confronts it by setting up bigoted liars with a free platform. Gee, maybe John Edwards  mondo joe   Jan-21-08 09:09 PM   #31 
  - I just want religion OUT of American politics!!!!  krabigirl   Jan-21-08 09:48 PM   #75 
  - He's trying to counter all the BS going around about how he is  Mutineer   Jan-21-08 08:57 PM   #5 
  - I guess if you want to read something else in to my statement, you are more than welcome  LibraLiz1973   Jan-21-08 09:01 PM   #17 
     - Different beliefs than most dems. . .  Mutineer   Jan-21-08 09:03 PM   #22 
        - I REPEAT: SAYING you are Christian and BEHAVING like one are two different things.  LibraLiz1973   Jan-21-08 09:07 PM   #27 
  - he was saying that we shouldnt cede the faith issue to the far right  IranianDemocrat   Jan-21-08 08:57 PM   #6 
  - FUCK THESE RELIGIOUS ASSHOLES! WE don't WANT their  TankLV   Jan-21-08 08:58 PM   #8 
  - Truly Pathetic. I'm Christian & Proud of it.  NJObamaWoman   Jan-21-08 09:10 PM   #33 
     - Re read the OP and the other things I have said in this thread.  LibraLiz1973   Jan-21-08 09:14 PM   #39 
     - I said "religiouis ASSHOLES"...  TankLV   Jan-21-08 09:15 PM   #41 
     - Yes not every Christian is like that is all I'm saying.  NJObamaWoman   Jan-21-08 09:20 PM   #56 
        - Then we're NOT talking about YOU or people LIKE you, are we?  TankLV   Jan-21-08 09:24 PM   #63 
        - I agree with you NJObamaWoman  GoldieAZ49   Jan-21-08 09:46 PM   #73 
     - "I'm a Christian BUT I believe in gay rights?  Rockholm   Jan-21-08 09:42 PM   #72 
     - As long as you are cool with the separation of church & state, I'm cool with you.  krabigirl   Jan-21-08 09:49 PM   #76 
  - Fortunately, you are not in charge of anything.  Occam Bandage   Jan-21-08 08:59 PM   #10 
  - So you only support people who are irreligious! What a condescending attitude.  jody   Jan-21-08 08:59 PM   #11 
  - Do you have bricks between your ears?  LibraLiz1973   Jan-21-08 09:02 PM   #20 
     - Are you unable to answer my question? n/t  jody   Jan-21-08 09:07 PM   #28 
        - Your reading comprehension skills are lacking. Go back and re-read the OP.  mondo joe   Jan-21-08 09:10 PM   #34 
        - I thought your question was idiotic in view of my OP.  LibraLiz1973   Jan-21-08 09:10 PM   #35 
           - My question was not idiotic but your answer is. You say "I support any and all religions" but  jody   Jan-21-08 09:14 PM   #40 
              - I do reject religions and "religious" people who promote intolerance  LibraLiz1973   Jan-21-08 09:18 PM   #50 
                 - Then you were wrong in saying "I support any and all religions". What other statements have you made  jody   Jan-21-08 09:20 PM   #55 
  - If Obama is great, why should it matters if loonies vote for him?  bartholomewjohn   Jan-21-08 09:00 PM   #14 
  - Hillary should stop  ProSense   Jan-21-08 09:01 PM   #16 
  - Let me know when he "reaches out" to the RACISTS, then we can BEGIN to talk...  TankLV   Jan-21-08 09:01 PM   #18 
  - I consider Pat Robertson racist; Obama reached out to him  dmesg   Jan-22-08 04:35 AM   #96 
  - I dont want that either. I can get that by voting for Huckabee.  Josiah1982   Jan-21-08 09:08 PM   #30 
  - You  TheJizzaking   Jan-21-08 09:12 PM   #36 
  - I'm a Christian and not a bigot. I'm down right angry at this post  NJObamaWoman   Jan-21-08 09:13 PM   #37 
  - Read into it whatever you will. You seem determined to do so.  LibraLiz1973   Jan-21-08 09:16 PM   #44 
  - welcome to DU- and please understand that this post is  Bluerthanblue   Jan-21-08 09:18 PM   #47 
     - Thanks I'm just frustrated at this party.  NJObamaWoman   Jan-21-08 09:21 PM   #58 
  - then good luck finding a candidate to vote for- cause they are ALL  Bluerthanblue   Jan-21-08 09:14 PM   #38 
  - Respectfully, I am addressing the ONE candidate that just said  LibraLiz1973   Jan-21-08 09:15 PM   #42 
  - Well, Gravel is a Unitarian..  krabigirl   Jan-21-08 09:50 PM   #78 
  - And some of us will take EVERY VOTE we can get.  proud2Blib   Jan-21-08 09:16 PM   #45 
  - Proud2b... it isn't about the religion so much as the beliefs they have  LibraLiz1973   Jan-21-08 09:17 PM   #46 
  - Again. I don't care.  proud2Blib   Jan-21-08 09:19 PM   #52 
     - By this logic we should start pandering to the KKK for votes too.  LibraLiz1973   Jan-21-08 09:24 PM   #62 
        - I am not recommending pandering  proud2Blib   Jan-21-08 09:26 PM   #65 
  - definately agree with you  LSK   Jan-21-08 09:21 PM   #59 
  - Evangelical does not equal bigot  Bleachers7   Jan-21-08 09:19 PM   #51 
  - Frankly you're going to have to accept that they are Americans too.  Kristi1696   Jan-21-08 09:19 PM   #53 
  - very well and civilly  Bluerthanblue   Jan-21-08 09:24 PM   #61 
  - No -- we can & SHOULD demonize them and make it so uncomfortable for these ASSHOLES that they will  TankLV   Jan-21-08 09:27 PM   #66 
     - That does not mean you should not want evangeelicals voting for yourcandidate.  Perky   Jan-21-08 09:35 PM   #70 
  - I do  LSK   Jan-21-08 09:21 PM   #57 
  - Well that is just stupid Stupid STUPID  Perky   Jan-21-08 09:33 PM   #69 
  - I agree, to a point. If they want to vote for him,. no problem. But if he panders, that's different.  krabigirl   Jan-21-08 09:50 PM   #77 
  - You're supposed to ask people to vote for you.  Bleachers7   Jan-21-08 09:51 PM   #80 
  - um  angie_love   Jan-21-08 09:51 PM   #79 
  - She didn't say that at all, but you know that already  LostinVA   Jan-22-08 08:59 AM   #101 
  - Lets fight the culture wars until every one of them is destroyed!  rucky   Jan-21-08 09:52 PM   #81 
  - I don't like our odds on that one  Hippo_Tron   Jan-21-08 10:45 PM   #90 
  - Your faux outrage at nothing is touching  zidzi   Jan-21-08 10:30 PM   #84 
  - Your complete and total missing of my point is also touching.  LibraLiz1973   Jan-22-08 08:28 AM   #97 
  - Thats what I'm saying!  ClericJohnPreston   Jan-21-08 10:32 PM   #86 
  - K&R  ClericJohnPreston   Jan-21-08 10:32 PM   #87 
  - Frankly, I want religion out of politics, and politics out of religion.  avaistheone1   Jan-21-08 10:36 PM   #89 
  - Separation of church and state is soo pre-2000 coup!  robbedvoter   Jan-21-08 10:58 PM   #92 
  - Perhaps he was just countering the 'Obama is a muslim' rumor  NoBorders   Jan-22-08 08:55 AM   #98 
  - Um, I want those bigots voting for my candidate. I'll take all the votes we can get.  hnmnf   Jan-22-08 08:56 AM   #99 
 

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