| 24. Things seem to have settled down a little bit |
| -@@@ OFFICIAL SOUTH CAROLINA LOVEFEST #3 @@@ |
Magic Rat |
Jan-21-08 07:34 PM |
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Question - Is Subprime mortgage crisis a racial issue? |
Magic Rat |
Jan-21-08 07:34 PM |
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? |
Skittles |
Jan-21-08 07:36 PM |
#5 |
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No, it's not a racial issue per se.... |
MercutioATC |
Jan-21-08 07:45 PM |
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Yes, it is, blacks and latinos were targetted, blacks more... check out |
SaveAmerica |
Jan-21-08 08:11 PM |
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John Edwards: "Barack and I" - several times. |
TwilightZone |
Jan-21-08 07:35 PM |
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If edwards drops, his votes will go to Obama, at least for the most part. |
Windy |
Jan-21-08 07:36 PM |
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Yeah. Look how his Barack and I business worked in NH. I don't think |
Kahuna |
Jan-21-08 07:36 PM |
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Barack as his VP? |
OzarkDem |
Jan-21-08 07:37 PM |
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More likely, that his delegates would go to Obama should he drop out. |
TwilightZone |
Jan-21-08 07:38 PM |
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Hmmmm!!!! I wouldn't object to Obama/Edwards.... nt |
Sarah Ibarruri |
Jan-21-08 07:44 PM |
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I'm askeeered |
Sparkly |
Jan-21-08 07:35 PM |
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Yeah... it's a very... brutal debate. |
Katzenkavalier |
Jan-21-08 07:36 PM |
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I don't like conflict!! |
Sparkly |
Jan-21-08 07:39 PM |
#29 |
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This is VERY animated tonight! |
Yael |
Jan-21-08 07:37 PM |
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Thoughts: |
I work for workers |
Jan-21-08 07:35 PM |
#4 |
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ROFL !! |
K Gardner |
Jan-21-08 07:37 PM |
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you "work for workers"? even mill workers? |
annabanana |
Jan-21-08 07:37 PM |
#17 |
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No. They joined Change to Win. |
I work for workers |
Jan-21-08 07:39 PM |
#34 |
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Can you feel the love tonight?? |
VolcanoJen |
Jan-21-08 07:36 PM |
#8 |
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Another mis-characterization by Clinton |
oviedodem |
Jan-21-08 07:37 PM |
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. |
rug |
Jan-21-08 07:37 PM |
#10 |
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NOW you have my attention! |
MyPetRock |
Jan-21-08 07:37 PM |
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Sorry I was late to the party |
proud patriot |
Jan-21-08 07:37 PM |
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Edwards is looking GREAT |
debbierlus |
Jan-21-08 07:37 PM |
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He's the adult in the debate |
OzarkDem |
Jan-21-08 07:38 PM |
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yea, don't cast aside John yet, he is in to stay. |
alyce douglas |
Jan-21-08 07:40 PM |
#50 |
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Couldn't agree more. |
VolcanoJen |
Jan-21-08 07:41 PM |
#56 |
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Tis' true. Edwards can call out either candidate when needed. |
MichiganVote |
Jan-21-08 07:50 PM |
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Edwards got to the heart of the matter, while Clinton and Obama |
Heaven and Earth |
Jan-21-08 07:37 PM |
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Well, he's been hangin around for a moment just like this. He knew it would come. |
K Gardner |
Jan-21-08 07:38 PM |
#20 |
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Will the claws continue to come out? |
sniffa |
Jan-21-08 07:37 PM |
#14 |
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Edwards has already won the debate |
ruggerson |
Jan-21-08 07:37 PM |
#18 |
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Agreed. Good for Edwards. Let's hope he finally gets some traction. |
Beausoir |
Jan-21-08 07:38 PM |
#25 |
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too bad that's not relevant |
HughMoran |
Jan-21-08 07:39 PM |
#32 |
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Both are instinctively divisive people |
OzarkDem |
Jan-21-08 07:39 PM |
#38 |
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Where are you watching this? |
robbedvoter |
Jan-21-08 07:38 PM |
#19 |
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I am listening to CNN TV on the CNN.com site. |
tekisui |
Jan-21-08 07:39 PM |
#26 |
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CNN |
Yael |
Jan-21-08 07:39 PM |
# |
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Obama -- respond to Clinton's charge that you worked for a crooked slumlord |
Yael |
Jan-21-08 07:39 PM |
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and this is soooo whats wrong with msm nt |
iris5426 |
Jan-21-08 07:41 PM |
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cnn |
globalvillage |
Jan-21-08 07:39 PM |
#27 |
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right here... |
hwmnbn |
Jan-21-08 07:39 PM |
#36 |
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In the bathroom |
Bleachers7 |
Jan-21-08 07:41 PM |
#58 |
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Barack uming and awing, Hillary YELLING. Damn. |
Yael |
Jan-21-08 07:38 PM |
#22 |
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The back and forth sniping has really loosened them up, plus the audience |
lulu in NC |
Jan-21-08 07:38 PM |
#23 |
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Hell, they're coming down off that adrenalin rush. Can you imagine what that felt like? |
K Gardner |
Jan-21-08 07:39 PM |
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Things seem to have settled down a little bit |
fishwax |
Jan-21-08 07:38 PM |
#24 |
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Obama didn't win Iowa on anger... this isn't his strong suit |
Kurt_and_Hunter |
Jan-21-08 07:39 PM |
#28 |
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Says a lot about DU that our critiques of the candidates |
Heaven and Earth |
Jan-21-08 07:39 PM |
#30 |
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Eh? How so? |
Yael |
Jan-21-08 07:40 PM |
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Means we're really are about as informed as you can get. |
Heaven and Earth |
Jan-21-08 07:41 PM |
#52 |
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Hmm, you noticed that too? |
TwilightZone |
Jan-21-08 07:40 PM |
#48 |
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yeah - they're all listening to us |
robbedvoter |
Jan-21-08 07:42 PM |
#62 |
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Obama is going for broke... |
Katzenkavalier |
Jan-21-08 07:39 PM |
#31 |
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very true - needs knock-out. he knows he can't go the distance (calendar-wise) |
Kurt_and_Hunter |
Jan-21-08 07:40 PM |
#40 |
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Ooooh, the slum lord thing! Yikes! nt |
polichick |
Jan-21-08 07:39 PM |
#35 |
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This is a brawl! |
Bleachers7 |
Jan-21-08 07:40 PM |
#42 |
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I wouldn't be surprised if they started slugging it out! lol nt |
polichick |
Jan-21-08 07:41 PM |
#51 |
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Obama is explaining and changing the subject a lot tonight. |
onehandle |
Jan-21-08 07:40 PM |
#39 |
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Obama, did you work for slum lord? |
tishaLA |
Jan-21-08 07:40 PM |
#41 |
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Obama, do you still beat your wife? |
tishaLA |
Jan-21-08 07:40 PM |
#45 |
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Edwards would have to have a heart attack and die for me to support one of |
midlife_mo_Jo |
Jan-21-08 07:41 PM |
#57 |
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Wolfie dredging the gutter. . (too much info getting on TV) |
annabanana |
Jan-21-08 07:40 PM |
#43 |
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Hillary is a brilliant politician |
NJSecularist |
Jan-21-08 07:40 PM |
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Sounds like HRC made a mountain out of a molehill re: Obama "working |
lulu in NC |
Jan-21-08 07:40 PM |
#46 |
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Barack bringing up Hillary's Bankruptcy Bill vote |
zulchzulu |
Jan-21-08 07:40 PM |
#47 |
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Clinton -- I was not wrong. I have never been wrong. Obama was wrong. |
Yael |
Jan-21-08 07:40 PM |
#49 |
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Obama sidestepped Rezko |
Ikonoklast |
Jan-21-08 07:41 PM |
#53 |
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30%!!! WTF? nt |
onehandle |
Jan-21-08 07:41 PM |
#54 |
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I didn't know that either |
Politicub |
Jan-21-08 07:42 PM |
#64 |
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Stop hogging Edwards' time |
OzarkDem |
Jan-21-08 07:44 PM |
#90 |
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SHit -- WOlf Blitzer is trying to cut her off again. Damage control?? |
Yael |
Jan-21-08 07:41 PM |
#55 |
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Wolf's attitude towards Hillary has been really snide. nt |
onehandle |
Jan-21-08 07:42 PM |
#65 |
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Obama came across like a beaten man in Nevada last week. |
Kahuna |
Jan-21-08 07:41 PM |
#60 |
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Hillary at her wits end just making crap up and getting booed. nt |
Kahuna |
Jan-21-08 07:44 PM |
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Hillary throwing everything at him but the kitchen sink. Obama not |
Kahuna |
Jan-21-08 07:45 PM |
#101 |
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OMFG! Hillary "apologized" for something! Mark your calendars. |
zulchzulu |
Jan-21-08 07:42 PM |
#61 |
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**snort** |
VolcanoJen |
Jan-21-08 07:50 PM |
#133 |
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**snort** |
VolcanoJen |
Jan-21-08 07:50 PM |
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Wolf is in major damage control mode on Clinton. Hes protecting his WH spokesman job. LOL!!! |
Yael |
Jan-21-08 07:42 PM |
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We also need to remember that a lot of the TV viewers of this debate... |
timeforarevolution |
Jan-21-08 07:42 PM |
#63 |
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Hell, I'm having trouble following it. |
Heaven and Earth |
Jan-21-08 07:43 PM |
#70 |
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LOL! n/t |
timeforarevolution |
Jan-21-08 07:47 PM |
#113 |
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edwards lashes out |
Kurt_and_Hunter |
Jan-21-08 07:42 PM |
#66 |
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Hillary's incredulous smile is going to be stuck in my brain for days. |
hulklogan |
Jan-21-08 07:42 PM |
#67 |
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Pile on the guy in the middle. |
BuyingThyme |
Jan-21-08 07:42 PM |
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Holy fuck! Edwards, hahaha. "The limit was too high Obama? There's no limit at all now." |
joshcryer |
Jan-21-08 07:42 PM |
#68 |
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John's timing tonight is spot on |
Politicub |
Jan-21-08 07:43 PM |
#76 |
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We have no consistency when we vote -- Obama |
Yael |
Jan-21-08 07:42 PM |
#69 |
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OoOOOO Hillary hits below the belt |
Armstead |
Jan-21-08 07:43 PM |
#71 |
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"You never take responsibility for any vote." nt |
polichick |
Jan-21-08 07:43 PM |
#72 |
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Hillary gets what she deserves: Booing. |
K Gardner |
Jan-21-08 07:43 PM |
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Hillary is after Obama's a$$. |
alyce douglas |
Jan-21-08 07:43 PM |
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Big boos! Hillary == SENATOR Obama on the no responsibility "Present" votes |
Yael |
Jan-21-08 07:43 PM |
#74 |
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Man, she is going after him. |
Sparkly |
Jan-21-08 07:43 PM |
#75 |
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Hillary and John are exposed for voting for the Bankruptcy Bill! |
zulchzulu |
Jan-21-08 07:43 PM |
#77 |
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HRC booed--"you never take responsibility for your votes" (to Obama) nt |
lulu in NC |
Jan-21-08 07:43 PM |
#78 |
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truth must hurt huh Obama? |
bluedog |
Jan-21-08 07:45 PM |
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Obama never takes responsibility for votes. |
onehandle |
Jan-21-08 07:43 PM |
#79 |
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Wow, Hillary's going for the jugular. |
dorkulon |
Jan-21-08 07:44 PM |
#80 |
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Do you really think so? |
Inspired |
Jan-21-08 07:45 PM |
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I guess so, but it's definitely more exciting. |
dorkulon |
Jan-21-08 07:49 PM |
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Hillary should just stop this. |
Inspired |
Jan-21-08 07:44 PM |
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SHe is looking very bad. |
tekisui |
Jan-21-08 07:44 PM |
#86 |
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Obama voted present on keeping sex shops away from schools with BS explanation |
Yael |
Jan-21-08 07:44 PM |
#81 |
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she threw that IRW softball for a reason (responsibility for votes) |
Kurt_and_Hunter |
Jan-21-08 07:44 PM |
#82 |
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ooooo personal attack.... bad move Hil.. C'mon Edwards... bring it back |
annabanana |
Jan-21-08 07:44 PM |
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Sen CLinton gets the boo birds |
tishaLA |
Jan-21-08 07:44 PM |
#83 |
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I'm glad she brought up voting "present" |
polichick |
Jan-21-08 07:44 PM |
#84 |
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Obama: can someone ask Edwards a question so I can escape getting |
Heaven and Earth |
Jan-21-08 07:44 PM |
#85 |
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Hillary -- We can't get any straight answers out of you, SENATOR Obama |
Yael |
Jan-21-08 07:44 PM |
#87 |
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"I feel bad" ?! WTF |
iris5426 |
Jan-21-08 07:44 PM |
#88 |
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Obama voted 130 times "present" |
Politicub |
Jan-21-08 07:44 PM |
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130 votes present is 3.25% of total vote |
zulchzulu |
Jan-21-08 07:48 PM |
#128 |
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Hillary bringing up the "Present" vote. Look for the smackdown from Barack |
zulchzulu |
Jan-21-08 07:44 PM |
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What reality are you living in??? |
polichick |
Jan-21-08 07:46 PM |
#106 |
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Does Hillary really want to talk about taking responsibility |
grantcart |
Jan-21-08 07:44 PM |
#89 |
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Okay, I give. This isn't the issues debate. It's the cage match. |
BuyingThyme |
Jan-21-08 07:44 PM |
#91 |
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Two people enter. One person leaves. |
LittleClarkie |
Jan-21-08 07:46 PM |
#103 |
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TWO are goin' down! |
BuyingThyme |
Jan-21-08 07:48 PM |
#125 |
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Obama voted present on his own bill? |
TwilightZone |
Jan-21-08 07:45 PM |
#92 |
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Not taking any risks this one |
robbedvoter |
Jan-21-08 07:46 PM |
#110 |
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Hillary---save it for the pukes. You aren't doing yourself any favors. |
tekisui |
Jan-21-08 07:45 PM |
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I disagree. And I like her the least. |
BuyingThyme |
Jan-21-08 07:47 PM |
#114 |
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LET EDWARDS SPEAK |
annabanana |
Jan-21-08 07:45 PM |
#93 |
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No shit. Quiet the bullies. nt |
onehandle |
Jan-21-08 07:46 PM |
#109 |
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I think Hillary is going to fucking kill Obama by the end of this debate |
Saint Etienne17 |
Jan-21-08 07:45 PM |
#95 |
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Is she losing her mind? |
Konza |
Jan-21-08 07:46 PM |
#107 |
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haha! |
HughMoran |
Jan-21-08 07:46 PM |
#108 |
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no shit! |
Yael |
Jan-21-08 07:46 PM |
#111 |
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That WOULD simplify things quite a bit :D |
HughMoran |
Jan-21-08 07:47 PM |
#120 |
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I think he's trying to pull her off her game, make her feel cornered |
VolcanoJen |
Jan-21-08 07:52 PM |
#149 |
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So Obama voted for it before he voted against it? |
onehandle |
Jan-21-08 07:45 PM |
#96 |
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Her posture! Standing there all snide looking |
tishaLA |
Jan-21-08 07:45 PM |
#97 |
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It is a complete turnoff, IMO. |
Yael |
Jan-21-08 07:47 PM |
#112 |
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She's just being her real self. Obama's challenge is to show her for |
Kahuna |
Jan-21-08 07:48 PM |
#122 |
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I will not vote for Hillary if she wins the nomination. |
ellisonz |
Jan-21-08 07:45 PM |
#98 |
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Obama says HRC "combs over his 4000 votes in IL and tries to find one |
lulu in NC |
Jan-21-08 07:45 PM |
#99 |
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she knew she would be booed. this is strategic (i dont know how effective, but its planned) |
Kurt_and_Hunter |
Jan-21-08 07:45 PM |
#100 |
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She wanted the shit out there -- she knows the media will spin it for her. SC is a non issue to her |
Yael |
Jan-21-08 07:47 PM |
#115 |
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Really? I don't get the strategy but she's gutsy as hell |
durrrty libby |
Jan-21-08 07:54 PM |
#157 |
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Does Hillary really want to talk about taking responsibility |
grantcart |
Jan-21-08 07:45 PM |
#102 |
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Does Hillary really want to talk about taking responsibility |
grantcart |
Jan-21-08 07:46 PM |
# |
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I love how they went from "hillary, Barack, john" to "Senator X". |
Yael |
Jan-21-08 07:46 PM |
#104 |
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come on, end it, there is another candidate on the stage. |
alyce douglas |
Jan-21-08 07:46 PM |
#105 |
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Go, Johnny Go! Present? Woohoo!! |
goldcanyonaz |
Jan-21-08 07:47 PM |
#116 |
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Obama's explanation about voting present is flat-out LAME. |
polichick |
Jan-21-08 07:47 PM |
#117 |
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I thought it made sense - its almost the same as a no vote |
dmordue |
Jan-21-08 08:05 PM |
#182 |
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edwards the trial lawyer shows up |
Kurt_and_Hunter |
Jan-21-08 07:47 PM |
#118 |
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Yep - there he is in action. Interesting! nt |
polichick |
Jan-21-08 07:48 PM |
#124 |
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And he looks much better than the other two!! |
michaz |
Jan-21-08 07:49 PM |
#129 |
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And he is a damned good one. |
Inspired |
Jan-21-08 07:49 PM |
#132 |
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Edwards asks about Obama's many "present" votes. nt |
lulu in NC |
Jan-21-08 07:47 PM |
#119 |
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Geez are they ever going to let Edwards talk? |
OzarkDem |
Jan-21-08 07:47 PM |
#121 |
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Edwards on Obama -- you're a hypocrite on the Present votes. |
Yael |
Jan-21-08 07:48 PM |
#123 |
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He said that? |
DemCam |
Jan-21-08 07:50 PM |
#139 |
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John is ripping him a new one - yeah Hold his feet to the |
jannyk |
Jan-21-08 07:48 PM |
#126 |
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This debate = Perfect Example of why Senator can't be elected President |
K Gardner |
Jan-21-08 07:48 PM |
#127 |
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A specific one or any one? |
Yael |
Jan-21-08 07:50 PM |
#134 |
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Sounds like any one |
Bleachers7 |
Jan-21-08 07:58 PM |
#164 |
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I think you are right. It's difficult as we know. |
Inspired |
Jan-21-08 07:51 PM |
#142 |
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That was amazing, tactically, how edwards cut off barack from citing an accomplishment |
Kurt_and_Hunter |
Jan-21-08 07:49 PM |
#131 |
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He got some good stuff in there anyway |
Heaven and Earth |
Jan-21-08 07:50 PM |
# |
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Seems like he just had enough of the bullshit... |
polichick |
Jan-21-08 07:51 PM |
# |
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OT: Great sig line, K&H |
vanboggie |
Jan-21-08 07:51 PM |
#141 |
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He's very good. |
asdjrocky |
Jan-21-08 07:52 PM |
#146 |
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Whitey's are gangin up |
bagimin |
Jan-21-08 07:50 PM |
#136 |
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Health care reform, yes! |
OzarkDem |
Jan-21-08 07:50 PM |
#137 |
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Apparently Hillary and Edwards are too stupid to understand how Illinois legislation works |
zulchzulu |
Jan-21-08 07:50 PM |
#138 |
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Actually, you're buying a ridiculous spin job. nt |
polichick |
Jan-21-08 07:52 PM |
#147 |
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So you don't understand how the "present" vote works in the Illinois legislature either? |
zulchzulu |
Jan-21-08 07:57 PM |
#162 |
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They were talking about his present votes in the US Senate... |
polichick |
Jan-21-08 08:00 PM |
#172 |
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HRC -- thankfully HIV/AIDs is a chronic disease now. WTF!??? |
Yael |
Jan-21-08 07:51 PM |
#140 |
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As opposed to a short, terminal one. nt |
Sparkly |
Jan-21-08 07:51 PM |
#143 |
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Thanks -- I figured I missed the point. |
Yael |
Jan-21-08 07:52 PM |
#148 |
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She's just tone deaf. She said in last debate that TBI was a "new phenomenon". |
K Gardner |
Jan-21-08 07:52 PM |
#150 |
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don't you wish someone would ask them if anyone will hold |
alyce douglas |
Jan-21-08 07:51 PM |
#144 |
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I would love to hear their answers to that! nt |
polichick |
Jan-21-08 07:53 PM |
#152 |
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thought you were gonna say "hold their coat" (like in a duel) |
Kurt_and_Hunter |
Jan-21-08 07:53 PM |
#153 |
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if only anyone had the balls.... nt |
iris5426 |
Jan-21-08 07:53 PM |
#154 |
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might need to keep these threads shorter... slow loading |
Kurt_and_Hunter |
Jan-21-08 07:51 PM |
#145 |
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Why did Obama glance at Edwards before saying what the real issue was? |
Heaven and Earth |
Jan-21-08 07:53 PM |
#151 |
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lookin for hints? |
DemCam |
Jan-21-08 07:54 PM |
#158 |
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i was wondering that as well.... |
iris5426 |
Jan-21-08 07:54 PM |
#159 |
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just suggesting a thread 4 now. |
alyce douglas |
Jan-21-08 07:54 PM |
#155 |
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Hillary is kicking ass... n/t |
FreeState |
Jan-21-08 07:54 PM |
#156 |
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Obama seems a little shaken |
creeksneakers2 |
Jan-21-08 07:54 PM |
#160 |
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Thats because he did, several times n/t |
FreeState |
Jan-21-08 07:55 PM |
#161 |
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Excellent healthcare explanation by Barack. Important policy difference. |
K Gardner |
Jan-21-08 07:57 PM |
#163 |
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To bad it doesnt cover everyone in this country n/t |
FreeState |
Jan-21-08 07:58 PM |
#165 |
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Put a sock in it, Obama |
OzarkDem |
Jan-21-08 07:58 PM |
#166 |
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He is losing the debate this time... to bad I wanted it to be closer n/t |
FreeState |
Jan-21-08 07:58 PM |
#167 |
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That seems to be his debate style. |
Yael |
Jan-21-08 07:59 PM |
#169 |
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I'm sorry it was over your head |
zulchzulu |
Jan-21-08 07:59 PM |
#170 |
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Will Hillary finally tell us how she will force healthcare insurance down our throats? |
zulchzulu |
Jan-21-08 07:58 PM |
#168 |
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Not a peep about the core of her plan -- PRIVATE insurers. Call her on it, John! |
Yael |
Jan-21-08 08:00 PM |
#171 |
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Edwards should point out his plan makes insurance compete |
OzarkDem |
Jan-21-08 08:00 PM |
#173 |
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HRC calling Obama on flipflopping on Health Care |
Yael |
Jan-21-08 08:01 PM |
#174 |
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Obama didn't flip flop. Hillary just lied again |
zulchzulu |
Jan-21-08 08:03 PM |
#179 |
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hard to score this three way game |
grantcart |
Jan-21-08 08:01 PM |
#175 |
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Obama -- HRC and Massachusettes (Romney) same thing. Ouch. |
Yael |
Jan-21-08 08:02 PM |
#176 |
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That was a low blow! nt |
polichick |
Jan-21-08 08:03 PM |
#180 |
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Obama's plan doesn't have real cost controls |
OzarkDem |
Jan-21-08 08:02 PM |
#177 |
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Hillary still doesn't tell us how she will force mandated healthcare |
zulchzulu |
Jan-21-08 08:02 PM |
#178 |
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THREAD #4 |
eppur_se_muova |
Jan-21-08 08:04 PM |
#181 |
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