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More Than A Feeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-20-08 11:55 PM
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74. Ex-gays are beyond the pale.
As I said elsewhere, its about the worst movement you could associate yourself with and still be politically viable. Obama has had two chances now to reject them by getting them out of his campaign, and he's blown it both times.
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  -Why aren't you supporting John Edwards? yardwork  Jan-20-08 10:31 PM   #0 
  - he doesnt inspire me at all. quite the opposite.  horseface   Jan-20-08 10:41 PM   #1 
  - Why not? He's the candidate who is advocating for change?  yardwork   Jan-20-08 10:44 PM   #2 
     - His record on actually changing things leaves a lot to be desirable.  hnmnf   Jan-20-08 10:45 PM   #3 
     - What has Obama changed?  yardwork   Jan-20-08 10:52 PM   #13 
     - Im going to ignore your first point about homophobes. What's his attitude twards women?  hnmnf   Jan-20-08 10:53 PM   #15 
     - That he honors them completely and wouldnt be who he is today without them  horseface   Jan-20-08 10:55 PM   #20 
     - If you don't care about homophobia then you aren't progressive.  yardwork   Jan-20-08 10:57 PM   #23 
     - all I can say to this is, dot, dot, dot ...  horseface   Jan-20-08 10:54 PM   #16 
     - With the exception of one or two, there are no Liberals in the Congress now.  Hieronymus   Jan-20-08 10:57 PM   #24 
     - Im too tired to explain.  horseface   Jan-20-08 10:47 PM   #4 
     - This for starters.....  FrenchieCat   Jan-20-08 10:48 PM   #8 
     - I was totally against the war, too. But that was 2002 and this is now.  yardwork   Jan-20-08 10:53 PM   #14 
        - Is there a statue of limitation against bad judgment dealing with a war  FrenchieCat   Jan-20-08 11:01 PM   #27 
           - What has Obama done against the war since he was elected to the senate?  yardwork   Jan-20-08 11:03 PM   #29 
              - Obama has done plenty.....  FrenchieCat   Jan-20-08 11:07 PM   #32 
              - I don't call speeches doing "plenty."  yardwork   Jan-20-08 11:10 PM   #35 
                 - so your argument is  Egnever   Jan-20-08 11:39 PM   #63 
              - And look at the bills he has sponsored.....in his short time in the Senate.....  FrenchieCat   Jan-20-08 11:10 PM   #34 
                 - Some of those are good bills, and some of them worry me.  yardwork   Jan-20-08 11:12 PM   #37 
                 - Why don't we discuss what you are worried about......  FrenchieCat   Jan-20-08 11:20 PM   #47 
                 - Oh, and here's a peek at Obama's state senate record...  FrenchieCat   Jan-20-08 11:35 PM   #57 
                 - OMG Frenchie you are the link master! This one is awesome!  horseface   Jan-20-08 11:14 PM   #39 
                    - I'm glad that you love it. Show me where it is particularly progressive.  yardwork   Jan-20-08 11:15 PM   #41 
                       - I got bored of you 15 minutes ago.  horseface   Jan-20-08 11:17 PM   #42 
                       - You keep getting tired and exhausted, but you keep posting lolol nt  Sarah Ibarruri   Jan-20-08 11:41 PM   #65 
                       - What kind of name is Ibarruri?  horseface   Jan-20-08 11:43 PM   #67 
                          - I'm afraid if I tell you, you'll end up too tired and exhausted to deal with it LOL!!  Sarah Ibarruri   Jan-20-08 11:47 PM   #69 
                             - Wow. That is rare. Very nice.  horseface   Jan-20-08 11:51 PM   #72 
                                - Thanks! :) nt  Sarah Ibarruri   Jan-20-08 11:58 PM   #75 
                       - There is a term for your condition  ClericJohnPreston   Jan-20-08 11:42 PM   #66 
                       - Deleted message  Name removed   Jan-20-08 11:24 PM   #51 
                          - As a voter, it's Obama's responsibility to win my vote. He's failed.  yardwork   Jan-20-08 11:33 PM   #56 
                             - Where's Edwards "accomplishments" while 6 years on the Govt dole?  FrenchieCat   Jan-20-08 11:38 PM   #62 
     - I wonder the same thing...  Beartracks   Jan-20-08 11:18 PM   #43 
        - Here's a video of Obama being perfectly clear on other than inspiration.....  FrenchieCat   Jan-20-08 11:54 PM   #73 
           - Thanks for the video link.  Beartracks   Jan-21-08 09:35 PM   #89 
  - Edwards' done too many about face on issues....  FrenchieCat   Jan-20-08 10:47 PM   #5 
  - I agree with everything FrenchieCat says  horseface   Jan-20-08 10:48 PM   #7 
  - Edwards has fought corporations and won. That alone makes me his admirer.  yardwork   Jan-20-08 10:55 PM   # 
     - Edwards fought corporation and was paid Millions upon Millions......  FrenchieCat   Jan-20-08 11:05 PM   #31 
        - I don't care what anyone was paid for their job. Edwards knows how to fight corporations.  yardwork   Jan-20-08 11:09 PM   #33 
           - Well I care...even if you don't.  FrenchieCat   Jan-20-08 11:19 PM   #44 
  - Left the 2004 theft unknown, IWR, his record opposite of his words  robbedvoter   Jan-20-08 10:47 PM   #6 
  - Those who hold Edwards' senate record against him should read this:  Heaven and Earth   Jan-20-08 10:49 PM   #9 
  - That is exactly what is wrong with him  Egnever   Jan-20-08 11:27 PM   #53 
     - Then I direct you to this thread:  Heaven and Earth   Jan-20-08 11:38 PM   #61 
        - Why?  Egnever   Jan-21-08 06:23 AM   #82 
  - He was against going in to Iraq  LittleBlue   Jan-20-08 10:50 PM   #10 
  - You mean for?  hnmnf   Jan-20-08 10:50 PM   #11 
     - He = Obama  LittleBlue   Jan-20-08 10:51 PM   #12 
  - I tend to believe Russ Feingold's assessment  zulchzulu   Jan-20-08 10:54 PM   #17 
  - Probably the easiest way to state it n/t  sandnsea   Jan-20-08 11:01 PM   #26 
  - I like Edwards but his ideas for change are too drastic to implement  DJ13   Jan-20-08 10:55 PM   #18 
  - I strongly disagree. The only way to save the global economy is to take on the corporations.  yardwork   Jan-20-08 10:56 PM   #21 
  - I'm not a fan of his IWR vote  JVS   Jan-20-08 10:55 PM   #19 
  - I'm not either, but he's said that that was a mistake.  yardwork   Jan-20-08 10:57 PM   #22 
     - He's fucking right that was a mistake. A mistake that cost him my support  JVS   Jan-20-08 10:59 PM   #25 
     - Well, Obama's support for homophobes has cost him my support.  yardwork   Jan-20-08 11:01 PM   #28 
        - dude, fucking vote for him then. you asked the question, cant get mad at the answers.  horseface   Jan-20-08 11:04 PM   #30 
           - I'm not a dude and I'm not mad at your answer.  yardwork   Jan-20-08 11:13 PM   #38 
              - you make me feel like I'm talking to Spongebob Squarepants  horseface   Jan-20-08 11:23 PM   #49 
              - there's nothing to be puzzled by  Skittles   Jan-21-08 12:07 AM   #78 
              - you shouldn't be. There has been plenty of substantive  cali   Jan-21-08 06:35 AM   #84 
     - a mistake is when you screw up balancing your checkbook  Skittles   Jan-21-08 12:06 AM   #77 
  - Edwards is a phony whose schtick many are not buying.  jlake   Jan-20-08 11:12 PM   #36 
  - Ok, that's easy to say, and lots of folks say it about your candidate too.  yardwork   Jan-20-08 11:14 PM   #40 
     - I don't dislike Edwards. But that is why many do not support him.  jlake   Jan-20-08 11:24 PM   #50 
  - I feel like he had his chance with Kerry  tigereye   Jan-20-08 11:19 PM   #45 
  - I don't believe him  Egnever   Jan-20-08 11:20 PM   #46 
  - Why Edwards?  totodeinhere   Jan-20-08 11:22 PM   #48 
  - Because of McClurkin/Caldwell. That was the prelude to this thread.  Heaven and Earth   Jan-20-08 11:27 PM   #52 
     - That is correct. Obama shows himself again and again to be suspect.  yardwork   Jan-20-08 11:28 PM   #54 
     - Garbage, Obama attracts a wide swath of supporters  Egnever   Jan-20-08 11:32 PM   #55 
        - Garbage yourself, Obama's actively making them a part of his campaign.  Heaven and Earth   Jan-20-08 11:35 PM   #60 
     - You are not going to find a perfect candidate on gay issues no matter where you look.  totodeinhere   Jan-20-08 11:49 PM   #70 
     - Ex-gays are beyond the pale.  Heaven and Earth   Jan-20-08 11:55 PM   #74 
     - That makes you a one issue voter, and its not even an issue but a person.  FrenchieCat   Jan-21-08 12:32 AM   #79 
  - Because I belive he is best for our country at this time.  Digit   Jan-20-08 11:35 PM   #58 
  - I like Edwards  grantcart   Jan-20-08 11:35 PM   #59 
  - I wasn't crazy about his campaigning in '04  Jed Dilligan   Jan-20-08 11:39 PM   #64 
  - I think he must be a really great guy, but it doesn't come across that way.  PinkTiger   Jan-20-08 11:45 PM   #68 
  - I like Edwards but one of the things that tremendously concerns me  Samantha   Jan-20-08 11:50 PM   #71 
  - he co-sponsored the invasion of Iraq  Skittles   Jan-21-08 12:03 AM   #76 
  - Honestly? I don't trust him  gdaerin   Jan-21-08 12:52 AM   #80 
  - Obama is the one with the progressive record  cali   Jan-21-08 01:20 AM   #81 
  - Because he only became "progressive" during this campaign.  Clark2008   Jan-21-08 06:34 AM   #83 
  - There is too much blood on his hands  WesDem   Jan-21-08 06:53 AM   #85 
  - uh..  MonkeyFunk   Jan-21-08 06:58 AM   #86 
  - Because he probably won't win a single state???  elizm   Jan-21-08 06:58 AM   #87 
  - Because I don't believe Edwards is sincere in his professed convictions.  Crunchy Frog   Jan-21-08 07:07 AM   #88 
  - A lot of GDP posters are probably campaign staffers  OzarkDem   Jan-21-08 09:38 PM   #90 
 

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