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159. can someone elucidate on Edwards'plan to combat corporatism?
I have searched for details, but can't really find a plan. As a Kucinich supporter who has seen many embrace Edwards as the other Progressive candidate, I would love a reason to embrace Edwards other than talk... Thanks in advance...
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  -I'm very disappointed and pissed off tonight, so please forgive this, but..... Armstead  Jan-19-08 08:08 PM   #0 
  - It's even worse...  polichick   Jan-19-08 08:11 PM   #1 
  - Alas you might be right  Armstead   Jan-19-08 08:15 PM   #3 
  - Younger people don't seem to understand Nader contributions to what we  defendandprotect   Jan-20-08 02:25 PM   #141 
     - IMO, Bloomberg is a Republican --- isn't he .. . ???  defendandprotect   Jan-20-08 02:26 PM   #142 
     - Bloomberg is an Independent  DeeDeeNY   Jan-20-08 04:29 PM   #153 
        - Of course he's an "independent" . . . the question was . . . isn't he a REPUBLICAN????  defendandprotect   Jan-20-08 07:31 PM   #173 
           - No, if anything he's a liberal  DeeDeeNY   Jan-20-08 08:52 PM   #181 
              - What is liberal and/or progressive about Bloomberg --- a billionaire?  defendandprotect   Jan-20-08 10:10 PM   #185 
     - Concepts Nader advanced? - no - not really - SDS at the 63 Boston first meeting was discussing those...  papau   Jan-20-08 06:38 PM   #163 
        - Of course Nader's political groups brought us the reality of corporate financing of campaigns --  defendandprotect   Jan-20-08 07:34 PM   #175 
           - corporate financing of campaigns was USSC"free speech"- corporate-fascism began with the USSC giving  papau   Jan-20-08 08:52 PM   #182 
              - Largely unclear . . . however . . .  defendandprotect   Jan-20-08 10:09 PM   #184 
                 - but Royalty is forever - even post coups - capitalist "charters" were time limited and reviewed by  papau   Jan-21-08 03:08 AM   #192 
                    - Again, mainly unclear . . .  defendandprotect   Jan-21-08 02:25 PM   #196 
  - I remember when I couldn't believe my eyes  Iwillnevergiveup   Jan-20-08 12:00 PM   #117 
     - Hillary trotting out her dinosaurs did not look good  ZinZen   Jan-20-08 07:04 PM   #168 
  - Vote for Kang! The boys are mean to her!... No ! Vote for Kodos! Kang's supporters are mean racists!  lumberjack_jeff   Jan-19-08 08:14 PM   #2 
  - Blloomberg would not be insignificant. Bloomberg has all the money in the world to spend.  avaistheone1   Jan-19-08 08:18 PM   #6 
     - Not exactly a match made in heaven.  lumberjack_jeff   Jan-19-08 08:20 PM   #8 
     - both are conservative white dudes - just the change we need..... *sigh*  harmonicon   Jan-20-08 11:48 AM   #113 
        - Why do you think Edwards is a conservative? prob. more lib than C ro O  unc70   Jan-21-08 01:04 AM   #187 
           - I think Obama and Clinton are also both quite conservative  harmonicon   Jan-21-08 07:49 AM   #193 
  - My thoughts exactly! ~ Edwards is already being Kucinich-ed out of the picture  Impeachment_Monkey   Jan-19-08 08:17 PM   #4 
  - He was X-ed out weeks ago.....After winning 2nd in Iowa  Armstead   Jan-19-08 08:20 PM   #9 
     - Edwards out, Obama soon to be? Just in time for "super Tues." w/ only "ONE candidate"  Impeachment_Monkey   Jan-19-08 08:29 PM   #17 
  - As long as politicians can be bought & voting rigged,  southerncrone   Jan-19-08 08:17 PM   #5 
  - To be honest, I think we deserve it  Armstead   Jan-19-08 08:22 PM   #11 
  - I'm in the same frame of mind. But our children don't deserve it!  puebloknot   Jan-20-08 05:14 AM   #85 
  - Remember the American voting population  ZinZen   Jan-20-08 07:07 PM   #169 
  - Viva la revolution  ClericJohnPreston   Jan-19-08 08:47 PM   #28 
  - Yes, that is my point.  southerncrone   Jan-19-08 08:56 PM   #35 
     - NGU.  fooj   Jan-19-08 11:23 PM   #73 
  - Is there room on your broom for an oracle?  truedelphi   Jan-19-08 10:41 PM   #70 
  - Sure, oracles are always welcome!  southerncrone   Jan-20-08 01:41 AM   #80 
     - Let me know when the broom leaves!  truedelphi   Jan-20-08 01:18 PM   #133 
  - yea, slave labor is correct, that is the only way for them to control  alyce douglas   Jan-20-08 04:13 PM   #148 
  - The justification is that WE are supposed to do our part to make things Change  patrice   Jan-19-08 08:19 PM   #7 
  - Partisan gridlock will return as an excuse  Armstead   Jan-19-08 08:24 PM   #12 
     - Exactly. Too bad folks can't see what's going on better. I want to embrace  patrice   Jan-19-08 08:30 PM   #18 
  - Your post is the best one of the day.  JDPriestly   Jan-19-08 08:21 PM   #10 
  - If you didn't talk in talking points, you might be a happier person.  aquart   Jan-19-08 08:24 PM   #13 
  - I understand exactly what I'm saying  Armstead   Jan-19-08 08:26 PM   #15 
  - Who pissed in your wheaties this morning?  Yael   Jan-19-08 08:41 PM   #23 
  - A typical "aquart" response  ClericJohnPreston   Jan-19-08 09:43 PM   #52 
     - I hear ya  Yael   Jan-19-08 11:55 PM   #74 
  - Lame n/t  jgraz   Jan-20-08 01:33 AM   #79 
  - What?  Kajsa   Jan-20-08 12:57 PM   #132 
  - That's a very condescending response, aquart  Lydia Leftcoast   Jan-20-08 07:11 PM   #170 
  - DC Dems are not an opposition party  OzarkDem   Jan-19-08 08:25 PM   #14 
  - You said it. The biggest difference between Hillary and Obama  NCevilDUer   Jan-19-08 08:37 PM   #21 
  - BINGO! Well stated!  ClericJohnPreston   Jan-19-08 09:44 PM   #53 
  - Not once the checks start rolling in....  Yael   Jan-20-08 01:25 PM   #135 
  - If either even manages TO get elected.  Blue State Native   Jan-20-08 12:18 PM   #122 
  - So I take it you could vote for a Republican since there's no difference?  INdemo   Jan-20-08 06:41 PM   #164 
  - Don't feel too bad  Uben   Jan-19-08 08:27 PM   #16 
  - That's exactly how the Corporate Media wants it  bigbrother05   Jan-19-08 09:38 PM   #49 
  - Debate the package and "strategy" rather than anything of importance  Armstead   Jan-19-08 09:42 PM   #50 
  - heartfelt congratulations to your wife and you  stickernation   Jan-20-08 12:21 PM   #125 
  - It IS depressing, and it's not just you. I wonder how bad it has to get  Nay   Jan-19-08 08:31 PM   #19 
  - I'm wondering that too  Armstead   Jan-19-08 08:40 PM   #22 
  - Thanks to suburbanization, most Americans lack the kinds of  Lydia Leftcoast   Jan-20-08 07:16 PM   #172 
     - It helps that their health insurance  BushLiesDaily   Jan-20-08 07:50 PM   #179 
  - Well, someone needs to send a memo to the democrats in NH and NV  Yael   Jan-19-08 08:46 PM   #27 
  - but Edwards (and Kucinich) ARE talking about things that matter. When will we listem?  sojourner   Jan-19-08 09:11 PM   #41 
     - That's true and that's why I'm pissed off tonight  Armstead   Jan-19-08 09:13 PM   #42 
        - i know............with you there..........  sojourner   Jan-19-08 09:37 PM   #48 
  - If I thought Sen. Clinton could easily win the general election, I would  Zorra   Jan-19-08 08:35 PM   #20 
  - Your candidate doesn't make much of a difference.  DutchLiberal   Jan-19-08 08:43 PM   #24 
  - Edwards, the man whose ideas are framing the debate  Yael   Jan-19-08 08:44 PM   #26 
  - Who said anything about shutting him up? I sure didn't.  DutchLiberal   Jan-19-08 08:50 PM   #31 
     - You said he "doesn't make much of a difference"  Yael   Jan-19-08 08:55 PM   #34 
        - He doesn't make much of a difference, indeed. How does that equal "we should shut him up"?  DutchLiberal   Jan-19-08 09:07 PM   #39 
           - You mean  ClericJohnPreston   Jan-19-08 09:49 PM   #54 
              - 'One sentence puts him down'? I mentioned at least four different issues.  DutchLiberal   Jan-19-08 09:59 PM   #59 
              - who should listen to your argument when you're either completely mis-informed or just a liar?  harmonicon   Jan-20-08 11:53 AM   #115 
  - Whether you like him or not....  Armstead   Jan-19-08 08:49 PM   #30 
     - Kucinich is raising the key issues. And he has a (voting) record to back it up.  DutchLiberal   Jan-19-08 08:51 PM   #32 
        - Kucinich reflects my true views  Armstead   Jan-19-08 08:57 PM   #37 
           - Edwards will say whatever it takes to get himself elected.  DutchLiberal   Jan-19-08 09:10 PM   #40 
           - sick of hearing people lie............disagree with his policies (they are in PRINT) if you like but  sojourner   Jan-19-08 09:15 PM   #43 
           - Why don't you just give arguments against my claims instead of raving and ranting?  DutchLiberal   Jan-19-08 09:23 PM   #44 
              - then you won't have a problem reading this?  sojourner   Jan-19-08 09:42 PM   #51 
                 - Thanks for that -- Edwards deserves more credit  Armstead   Jan-19-08 09:52 PM   #55 
                 - I have read this before. It doesn't mean anything.  DutchLiberal   Jan-19-08 10:01 PM   #60 
                    - listen to his message. watch him answer questions. then if you feel that way, fine. but  sojourner   Jan-20-08 12:17 AM   #77 
                    - I HAVE listened to him, and I HAVE addressed the ISSUES.  DutchLiberal   Jan-20-08 06:26 PM   #161 
                       - it's an assumption to say he can't be trusted. it's labeling him, and that could be  sojourner   Jan-20-08 11:29 PM   #186 
                          - Thank you for your reply.  DutchLiberal   Jan-21-08 07:47 PM   #198 
                    - Since you are not even an American or an eligible voter  Avabea   Jan-20-08 10:53 AM   #107 
                    - Er, very insightful comment  f the letter   Jan-20-08 04:09 PM   #147 
                    - Bill? Bill O'Reilly? Is that you?  DutchLiberal   Jan-20-08 06:26 PM   #162 
                    - very interesting perspective...  stickernation   Jan-20-08 01:19 PM   #134 
                       - First, let me thank you for your reply.  DutchLiberal   Jan-20-08 06:54 PM   #166 
                          - No, it is not correct and neither are your arguments.  unc70   Jan-21-08 01:45 AM   #188 
                             - You don't have to overreact.  DutchLiberal   Jan-21-08 07:58 PM   #199 
           - Since you are in Europe, what source convinced you of this about Edwards?  unc70   Jan-20-08 02:01 AM   #81 
              - Have you forgotten Russ Feingold?--although in fact  LandOLincoln   Jan-20-08 06:15 AM   #91 
              - I asked specifically because they were in Europe  unc70   Jan-20-08 04:18 PM   #150 
              - Since the Internet, geographical distance is not an issue anymore.  DutchLiberal   Jan-20-08 07:00 PM   #167 
                 - I don't just live nearby. direct knowledge for much  unc70   Jan-21-08 02:04 AM   #189 
           - I know DK. I live in NE Ohio. DK talks a good game, and has not been able to  Ninga   Jan-20-08 10:06 AM   #105 
           - I SO agree, Armstead ...  Maat   Jan-20-08 12:30 PM   #128 
  - "Another Damn Issue-Free General Election in which Big Problems will be met with Small Answers"  Yael   Jan-19-08 08:43 PM   #25 
  - Centrist Stranglehold !?!?  Tulkas   Jan-19-08 08:48 PM   #29 
  - "Centrist" is not the same as moderate  Armstead   Jan-19-08 08:54 PM   #33 
  - Tulkin thinks that he is a leftist moderate,  amandabeech   Jan-20-08 03:13 AM   #83 
  - Hillary + Far Left  Yael   Jan-19-08 08:56 PM   #36 
  - Are these "Far Left" positions?  HughBeaumont   Jan-19-08 10:04 PM   #62 
  - that is just SO ignorant.  tomp   Jan-20-08 09:56 AM   #103 
  - far left?  harmonicon   Jan-20-08 11:58 AM   #116 
  - As long as we have  jenmarie   Jan-19-08 08:57 PM   #38 
  - Which wing? The wing that voted us into Iraq?  Tweed   Jan-19-08 09:25 PM   #45 
  - I Know, I Feel SICK!  stravu9   Jan-19-08 09:25 PM   #46 
  - I'm with you, babe.  VolcanoJen   Jan-19-08 09:26 PM   #47 
  - I don't see stupid beyond belief  creeksneakers2   Jan-19-08 09:52 PM   #56 
  - Political naivete beyond belief  ClericJohnPreston   Jan-19-08 09:55 PM   #57 
  - I have a different view of naivete  creeksneakers2   Jan-20-08 09:29 AM   #101 
     - I have a different view of naivete -- We've been succumbing to it for 30 years  Armstead   Jan-20-08 09:43 AM   #102 
  - Clintonism is too corporate friendly  Armstead   Jan-19-08 09:56 PM   #58 
  - Oh my God.  HughBeaumont   Jan-19-08 10:09 PM   #63 
  - Pretty amazing, isn't it, Hugh? n/t  antigop   Jan-19-08 10:25 PM   #66 
  - I was thinking "vomitous", but that covers it also.  HughBeaumont   Jan-19-08 10:36 PM   #68 
  - Aaaaaaaaaaaand I just dropped said poster in the Red X Toilet.  HughBeaumont   Jan-20-08 03:37 PM   #144 
  - Didn't you hear?  bvar22   Jan-20-08 12:04 PM   #119 
     - I've seen the "Goddess of Peace" quote.  HughBeaumont   Jan-20-08 02:17 PM   #140 
  - "winning" does NOT equal "great"  tomp   Jan-20-08 09:59 AM   #104 
  - What are you smoking?  sellitman   Jan-20-08 11:30 AM   #111 
     - See post #101  creeksneakers2   Jan-20-08 12:46 PM   #130 
        - And "technically",  bvar22   Jan-20-08 05:25 PM   #154 
           - Yeah. They can't donate  creeksneakers2   Jan-20-08 05:33 PM   #156 
  - That your candidate lost doesn't indicate the end of the Republic  MonkeyFunk   Jan-19-08 10:04 PM   #61 
  - yeah, who let people vote, anyway  northzax   Jan-19-08 10:45 PM   #71 
  - I wish that were all it is  Armstead   Jan-20-08 08:56 AM   #100 
  - McCain will win the Repug nomination  Phoonzang   Jan-19-08 10:14 PM   #64 
  - I hear ya, Armstead. I hear ya. n/t  antigop   Jan-19-08 10:24 PM   #65 
  - I'm bitter too  Horse with no Name   Jan-19-08 10:29 PM   #67 
  - More depressed than you  fadedrose   Jan-19-08 10:41 PM   #69 
  - Depressing indeed. WTF? K & R (n/t)  Triana   Jan-19-08 10:46 PM   #72 
  - Hold on there a moment....Let me prescribe you some Xanax  BenDavid   Jan-19-08 11:57 PM   #75 
  - WTF are you talking about? Do you have any idea what the OP was  saracat   Jan-20-08 03:05 AM   #82 
     - Just another excuse to bloviate. n/t  JTFrog   Jan-20-08 05:17 AM   #87 
  - I'm right there with you, Armstead...  Blue_In_AK   Jan-19-08 11:58 PM   #76 
  - I agree, the antiHillary vote needs to unite around one candidate NOW to stop Hillary  ShadowLiberal   Jan-20-08 12:27 AM   #78 
  - Welcome to DU /nt  Iceburg   Jan-20-08 05:27 AM   #88 
  - If we start voting against candidates, instead of for candidates, we're fucked  harmonicon   Jan-20-08 12:03 PM   #118 
  - George, Bill, George, Hillary, Jeb, Chelsea...  Xap   Jan-20-08 03:18 AM   #84 
  - I'm glad I'm not the only one feeling this way. Thanks for your post.  sparosnare   Jan-20-08 05:16 AM   #86 
  - I hear you  Skittles   Jan-20-08 05:32 AM   #89 
  - Exactly my feelings.  eridani   Jan-20-08 06:04 AM   #90 
  - "Are we going to continue to be driven by the politics of nostalgia for a decade in which the  TheWatcher   Jan-20-08 06:23 AM   #92 
  - I don't know people are thinking  NoBorders   Jan-20-08 06:35 AM   #93 
  - Grabbing defeat from the jaws of victory . . . again. nt  Vinca   Jan-20-08 07:12 AM   #95 
  - I think Obama is ready to get out.. but can't as long as John is in..  glowing   Jan-20-08 07:03 AM   #94 
  - That's a little too conspiratorial for me.  totodeinhere   Jan-20-08 07:59 AM   #97 
     - Knowing that the inditment that is being handed out by Fitzgerald  glowing   Jan-21-08 03:01 PM   #197 
  - I hear what you are sayinjg, but...  totodeinhere   Jan-20-08 07:56 AM   #96 
  - You're right -- But that's getting really old  Armstead   Jan-20-08 08:46 AM   #99 
     - We don't seem to have Pelosi's or Reid's feet held to the fire ....  higher class   Jan-20-08 07:34 PM   #174 
  - Both parties, it seems, are bought and owned by  x-g.o.p.er   Jan-20-08 08:01 AM   #98 
  - The problem is  sandyd921   Jan-20-08 10:13 AM   #106 
  - Back to the Future....exactly....  jus_the_facts   Jan-20-08 11:18 AM   #108 
  - Thanks  Armstead   Jan-20-08 12:07 PM   #120 
  - Until we take Corporate money out of the equation  sellitman   Jan-20-08 11:26 AM   #109 
  - Catch 22!  bvar22   Jan-20-08 12:15 PM   #121 
     - If we had a lick of sense it wouldn't be a Catch 22  Armstead   Jan-20-08 12:28 PM   #127 
  - Exactly how I feel.  tabasco   Jan-20-08 11:29 AM   #110 
  - Democratic candidates and politicians are not the only Democrats  LWolf   Jan-20-08 11:32 AM   #112 
  - OMG! no truer words were ever spoken!  bpeale   Jan-20-08 04:19 PM   #151 
     - Unfortunately.  LWolf   Jan-20-08 04:26 PM   #152 
        - i posted the following last night & i mean every word of it...  bpeale   Jan-20-08 06:44 PM   #165 
           - I hear you.  LWolf   Jan-20-08 07:41 PM   #176 
           - Going abroad will enable 47 million of us to have health insurance.  Perragrande   Jan-21-08 02:15 AM   #190 
  - Join in Kucinich's Effort to Eradicate DLC Dems from the Party  mrone2   Jan-20-08 11:48 AM   #114 
  - I really appreciate this thread, DUers.  Maat   Jan-20-08 12:19 PM   # 
  - I appreciate your response  Armstead   Jan-20-08 12:25 PM   #126 
  - The American people always cast out those who tell them the truth  debbierlus   Jan-20-08 12:19 PM   #123 
  - If you like the performance of the 2006 Democratic Controlled Congress  bvar22   Jan-20-08 12:20 PM   #124 
  - I know exactly how you feel ...  Desertrose   Jan-20-08 12:40 PM   #129 
  - I dissagree with your Premis that WE are choosing  Phred42   Jan-20-08 12:53 PM   #131 
  - you've neatly expressed why NEITHER major party is likely to earn my vote...  mike_c   Jan-20-08 01:27 PM   #136 
  - I think some of us have to start saying maybe we won't support the Democratic nominee  Pyrzqxgl   Jan-20-08 01:33 PM   #137 
  - You're preaching to the choir...  Wednesdays   Jan-20-08 01:57 PM   #138 
  - I feel the same kind of rage, my friend.  graywarrior   Jan-20-08 02:06 PM   #139 
  - winning is fool's gold  Two Americas   Jan-20-08 03:21 PM   #143 
  - WE tend to be politically smart, most of America is not on both sides  natrat   Jan-20-08 03:51 PM   #145 
  - a good read my friend  mdmc   Jan-20-08 04:04 PM   #146 
  - That's the way I feel about it...  butterfly77   Jan-20-08 04:15 PM   #149 
  - Are you going to run for office???  sallyseven   Jan-20-08 05:27 PM   #155 
  - I back candidates -- Take a look at my avatar  Armstead   Jan-20-08 05:59 PM   #158 
  - Great post, Armstead  MissDeeds   Jan-20-08 05:45 PM   #157 
  - can someone elucidate on Edwards'plan to combat corporatism?  elias7   Jan-20-08 06:03 PM   #159 
  - I couldn't agree more  Patchuli   Jan-20-08 06:23 PM   #160 
  - It is true, and depressing. Most Americans have been raised to follow in step.  balantz   Jan-20-08 07:16 PM   #171 
  - Trust me, I know how you feel. n/t  asdjrocky   Jan-20-08 07:42 PM   #177 
  - Its bad news  OzarkDem   Jan-20-08 07:47 PM   #178 
  - no need to fear it ...  unapatriciated   Jan-20-08 09:10 PM   #183 
  - We no longer live in a Democratic Republic. Supporting candidates the  Beam Me Up   Jan-20-08 08:25 PM   #180 
  - kick for this post!!!  Desertrose   Jan-21-08 01:43 PM   #194 
  - What it is going to take: William Pepper  Beam Me Up   Jan-21-08 11:54 PM   #200 
  - It's all so depressing. (nt)  redqueen   Jan-21-08 01:47 PM   #195 
  - Totally agree-- the DLC is ruining the Democratic Party  Muddy Waters Guitar   Jan-21-08 02:51 AM   #191 
  - "Another Damn Issue-Free General Election in which Big Problems will be met with Small Answers"  aint_no_life_nowhere   Jan-22-08 12:30 AM   #201 
 

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